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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-CA link=blue vlink=purple style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Nice outcome! Glad you found the problem.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> <b>On Behalf Of </b>JONAS PAYNE<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, August 18, 2024 3:34 PM<br><b>To:</b> Michael Salter <michaelsalter@gmail.com>; Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net>; kags@shaw.ca; healeys@autox.team.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Steering Jiggle on and off throttle resolved<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Thank you to everybody who provided advise.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Got it up in the air on Friday and saw evidence that the driver side spring/shackle locating pin/bolt had sheared and that the bottom leaf of the spring was sliding back and forth. Not sure how I missed this on previous inspection, it was pretty obvious.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Got the spring out today, locating pin/bolt had sheared and fallen out, top part was about 1/2" long and remained in place by gravity. All of the leafs were kind of moving fore and aft and side to side independently of one another. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Fabricated a new pin/bolt using a grade 5 bolt and the welder/bench grinder, put it back together and the test drive was a resounding success. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Jonas<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><hr size=2 width="98%" align=center></div><div id=divRplyFwdMsg><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> Healeys <<a href="mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>> on behalf of Michael Salter <<a href="mailto:michaelsalter@gmail.com">michaelsalter@gmail.com</a>><br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, August 15, 2024 10:16 AM<br><b>To:</b> Bob Spidell <<a href="mailto:bspidell@comcast.net">bspidell@comcast.net</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a> <<a href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Steering Jiggle on and off throttle</span> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I agree with all that Bob has said however I would add that rear wheel drive cars can exhibit a type of "torque steer" when the spring center bolt head is not correctly engaged in the hole in the spring mount plate of the rear axle. <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>I realize that the subject vehicle is a BJ8 so the following comment is really directed at BN1 owners and is not applicable in this case however, the head of the center bolt of the currently available 100 rear springs is not long enough to protrude through the axle alignment wedge and engage in the axle locating hole in the spring mounting plate of the rear axle. This can, particularly if the spring "U" bolts have loosened off, result in the axle sliding back under heavy braking with disastrous consequences. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>M<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Thu., Aug. 15, 2024, 9:41 a.m. Bob Spidell via Healeys, <<a href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>No one's tackled this yet, so I'll take a stab. This sounds a little bit like 'torque steer' that some FWD cars have (though it's been largely eliminated in newer FWD cars). Healeys, of course, are RWD so it's not that, and I've not experienced nor heard of this problem in a Healey. The front suspension isn't linked to the drive train in any way, so I'd check engine mounts; it's conceivable, but not likely the rocking of the engine could cause it to hit the steering column (the carbs are pretty close to it). If the chassis is somehow tweaked it might cause some tracking issues, though it would likely be under all conditions. Presumably, you've checked to assure the steering box is properly anchored?<br><br>That's all I got.<br><br>Bob<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 8/14/2024 7:45 PM, JONAS PAYNE wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>I have an early BJ8 that has been thoroughly gone through. Pretty much new everything. Recently I have experienced a jiggle/pull in steering when getting on and off throttle, admittedly with a heavy right foot. Doesn't necessarily pull to one side or the other, just jiggles a moment. It's an on/off throttle thing, doesn't do it when braking. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>I've checked the rear - everything seems tight, and all bushings have been replaced. motor mounts are good, transmission tension rod/bushings are good. little or no play in the front end, all new there too. Front end alignment appears to be good. Steering box is properly adjusted and has normal "play" for a cam and peg box as with my TR3's and Morgan + 4's. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> It isn't dangerous, but it doesn't feel right. That said, for all I know, it's part of the "vintage healey experience". I have 5 other vintage british sports cars and each has their own issues that are part of their charm. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Would appreciate anybody's experiences thoughts. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Jonas<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><hr size=2 width="98%" align=center></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>_______________________________________________<br>Support Team.Net <a href="http://www.team.net/donate.html" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br>Suggested annual donation $12.75<br><br>Archive: <a href="http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys</a> <a href="http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys</a><br><br><a href="mailto:Healeys@autox.team.net" target="_blank">Healeys@autox.team.net</a><br><a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys</a><br><br>Unsubscribe/Manage: <a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter@gmail.com" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter@gmail.com</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div></div></div></body></html>