<div>My original comments indicate that what I stated was correct. There are two pressure systems in the overdrive: <strong>Spring pressure</strong> which keeps the car in direct drive by pushing the cone clutch rearward to the brake ring and <strong>hydraulic pressure</strong> that creates overdrive by building about 450lbs. of force to move the two operating pistons compressing the 8 springs and locking the cone clutch in the forward location of the brake ring. This is a move of approximately 1/16" in either direction.</div>
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<div>If either of these "paths" are interrupted and not allow the clutch to mate fully to the brake ring, the function will not work solidly. It could be as simple as a broken or bound spring or a cracked or broken thrust washer or an overheated solenoid, but regardless the cone clutch must go fully home to work successfully. Jonas' example is similar to what Simon is experiencing.</div>
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<div>One could disconnect the solenoid, put a 3/16" drill in the OD lever and drive down the road (not backing up!) and see if the unit stays in overdrive steadily. If it slips, then the issue is hydraulic.This still requires disassembly, but a clue is given to the problem. If the electrics are disconnected and the lever held up all should be fine in direct drive or else the problem is with spring pressure (or perished linings) or hydraulics not bleeding down. Obviously, the test on the bench or with the wheels off the ground is not sufficient, as no load is created</div>
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<div>You may recall that sometime back Simon had an issue with someone "gluing" in the oil pump body. The proper assembly of these units cannot be overstressed. As an exercise prior to tearing out the unit, I would drain and refill the gearboxes with 30W non-detergent fresh oil and examine what was found in the drain plug. Simon noted "after a few miles"-heat?) Regards, Hank
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<div><br>-------------------- <br><br>From: <jpaynepbr@cox.net> <br>To: <healeys@autox.team.net> <br>Sent: April 26, 2024 at 6:04 PM PDT <br>Subject: Re: [Healeys] Overdrive pressure or clutch slip Step 2! </div>
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