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<div>The car on offer does have some valid M parts. Vin tag, cockpit trim, boot. The engine I'd put a question mark next to because of the repro tag, possibly incorrect carbs and incorrect distributor. I'm not really familiar with original cold air boxes, but
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<div>I also felt IMO that the bonnet looked suspiciously clean and fresh. The boot showed no evidence of the prop mount being removed and the boot itself showed some signs of aging prior to restoration (namely some pitting). I can't say that same about the
bonnet in terms of the aging. The area where the numbers are stamped has a support behind it. So in theory the number could be cut out of an original bonnet and grafted into another new bonnet, but this is just speculation and would take carefully scutiny
to determine. </div>
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<div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" style="font-size:11pt" color="#000000"><b>From:</b> josef-eckert@t-online.de <josef-eckert@t-online.de><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, December 27, 2023 2:58 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> S and T Miller <stmiller96@hotmail.com>; HealeyRick <healeyrik@gmail.com><br>
<b>Cc:</b> healeys@autox.team.net <healeys@autox.team.net><br>
<b>Subject:</b> AW: [Healeys] 100M Back on BaT</font>
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<p style="margin:0px"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:10pt; color:#000000; text-decoration:none"><span class="x_HwtZe" lang="en"><span class="x_jCAhz x_ChMk0b"><span class="x_ryNqvb">To understand it.</span></span>
<span class="x_jCAhz x_ChMk0b"><span class="x_ryNqvb">What is the difference between this 100M car on offer and a 100 BN1 modified with a 100 Le Mans kit, which has been given a different identity through a swapped chassis number?</span></span></span></span></p>
<p style="margin:0px"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:10pt; color:#000000; text-decoration:none"><span class="x_HwtZe" lang="en"><span class="x_jCAhz x_ChMk0b"><span class="x_ryNqvb">For me both cars are very similar.</span></span></span></span></p>
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<p style="margin:0px">Betreff: Re: [Healeys] 100M Back on BaT</p>
<p style="margin:0px">Datum: 2023-12-27T20:48:57+0100</p>
<p style="margin:0px">Von: "S and T Miller" <stmiller96@hotmail.com></p>
<p style="margin:0px">An: "HealeyRick" <healeyrik@gmail.com></p>
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<div>Very true. From talking with Mike, I really don't think he initially knew about the chassis and possible motor/ carb questions. He really doesn't have a good understanding of Healeys. And I even can understand to a point that he might be trying to even
convince himself that it might be more than it actually is. But how he has represented it after receiving a good assessment, just sits a bit wrong with me. </div>
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<div>Anyway it may never be known who or when the "conversion" took place. But the idea that the front cross bracing was bent to look like a M cam was installed, and the two under the dash BN1 OD relay holes (4) being so carefully concealed, tells me someone
was trying to make it look legit. </div>
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<div>And I quess it just will be determined by the hammer price how much of it really matters. It is a sharp looking car. </div>
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<div dir="ltr"><span style="font-size:11pt; color:#000000; font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><strong>From:</strong> HealeyRick <healeyrik@gmail.com><br>
<strong>Sent:</strong> Wednesday, December 27, 2023 11:57 AM<br>
<strong>To:</strong> S and T Miller <stmiller96@hotmail.com><br>
<strong>Cc:</strong> bspidell@comcast.net <bspidell@comcast.net>; healeys@autox.team.net <healeys@autox.team.net><br>
<strong>Subject:</strong> Re: [Healeys] 100M Back on BaT</span>
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<div dir="ltr">Interesting question about misrepresentation. Who misrepresented what to whom? Did the restorer misrepresent a 100M with a BN1 frame and possible replacement motor to the original buyer who was clueless or was it the original buyer that was doing
the misrepresenting? There's probably some grist for a lawyer's mill in all this. (retired lawyer, I can't help thinking this way) Maybe I should start one of those "The Healey Lawyer" columns in the
<em>Marque?</em>
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<div class="x_x_gmail_attr" dir="ltr">On Wed, Dec 27, 2023 at 8:41 AM S and T Miller <<a href="mailto:stmiller96@hotmail.com">stmiller96@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:</div>
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Bob, I agree with you. And it seems he is trying to cast some doubt on it being a BN1 chassis. Saying the firewall is a combination of both BN1 and BN2 is plain false. Since I was the one who showed him in person why it was a BN1 chassis he wanted to use my
name saying we "believe" its a BN1 chassis, and I replied that "believe" doesn't categorize my opinion. That everything points to being a BN1 chassis and nothing to a BN2. </div>
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Intesting note on the added restoration photos, #311 clearly shows the cut out BN1 gearbox mount in the restoration photo. Odd it is on a painted frame, but the BN2 one must have been welded in later. I'd thought maybe it was of a different frame, but the front
frame extensions are missing in the pictured one as we'll, so probably not.</div>
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<div style="font-family:inherit; color:inherit; background-color:transparent">I realize he is trying to sell a car that he bought that someone misrepresented to him, but I kinda feel not so great about his representation of the car on BAT. Again it is a nice
car overall. </div>
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<span style="font-size:14.6667px; font-family:Roboto,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; background-color:#ffffff; display:inline">Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2023 03:45:57 -0800</span><br>
<span style="font-size:14.6667px; font-family:Roboto,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; background-color:#ffffff; display:inline">From: Bob Spidell <<a href="mailto:bspidell@comcast.net">bspidell@comcast.net</a>></span><br>
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<span style="font-size:14.6667px; font-family:Roboto,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; background-color:#ffffff; display:inline">Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:229b7fa6-3b3a-4221-b587-227de3ae0c2b@comcast.net">229b7fa6-3b3a-4221-b587-227de3ae0c2b@comcast.net</a>></span><br>
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<span style="font-size:14.6667px; font-family:Roboto,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; background-color:#ffffff; display:inline">The expos? of the incorrect frame isn't stated in the text, but buried</span><br>
<span style="font-size:14.6667px; font-family:Roboto,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; background-color:#ffffff; display:inline">in the video according to a commenter (I didn't watch it). It appears to</span><br>
<span style="font-size:14.6667px; font-family:Roboto,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; background-color:#ffffff; display:inline">me the seller is attempting to straddle an ethical fence, apparently</span><br>
<span style="font-size:14.6667px; font-family:Roboto,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; background-color:#ffffff; display:inline">with BaT's blessing</span></div>
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