<html><body>AH Spares sells the straps with the insulation/padding mounted in place (photo). Did not see the padding sold individually by Moss, but maybe they are buying the straps from AH Spares as they do with any number of other items.<div><br></div><div>Note that there is no provision made for the early pad position-one size fits all. Hank<br><br><div class="reply-new-signature"></div><p>-----------------------------------------</p>From: "Michael Salter" <michaelsalter@gmail.com><br>To: warthodson@aol.com<br>Cc: "Hank Leach", "healeys@autox.team.net"<br>Sent: Thursday August 3 2023 7:14:17AM<br>Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fw: 851-310 Gas Tank Strap - Too thick - Westport Vintage Restorations 7-553606 - 5-6162672<br><br>
<div>I would completely agree with Gary. I've seen many,
many original Healeys of all models and ALL had gas tank strap
padding of "around" 0.125" thickness.
<div>The only variation that I'm aware of is that the
early BN1 pads and rivets were positioned differently on the metal
straps.</div>
<div>M</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu., Aug. 3, 2023, 9:33 a.m.
warthodson--- via Healeys, <<a>healeys@autox.team.net</a>>
wrote:<br></div>
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<div dir="ltr">I have an original tank strap from a '64 Phase 1 BJ8
& an early BN1. The packing material is .125" thick on
both. </div>
<div dir="ltr">Gary H</div>
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<div>On Wednesday, August 2, 2023 at 11:47:55 AM CDT, Hank Leach
<<a>gradea1@charter.net</a>> wrote:</div>
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<div>Might depend on the car involved. At chassis
151608-151610 the petrol tank straps and packing were modified.
Knowing Moss, they always opt for the later release and ignore the
early cars. The photo of the packing is way too thick. The
length of the straps may be longer as well. The early tanks were a
two piece assembly, then later a one piece. Cinching down the bolts
under the boot floor would shorten the straps until you run out of
threads. Packing under the tank will also affect the assembly.
Hank<br><br><p>-----------------------------------------</p>
From: "warthodson--- via Healeys"<br>
To: "<a>healeys@autox.team.net</a>"<br>
Cc: "<a>moss.tech@mossmotors.com</a>"<br>
Sent: Wednesday August 2 2023 8:03:59AM<br>
Subject: [Healeys] Fw: 851-310 Gas Tank Strap - Too thick -
Westport Vintage Restorations 7-553606 - 5-6162672<br><br><div style="font-family:'Comic Sans MS', sans-serif;font-size:16px;">
<div dir="ltr">I recently ordered a set of gas tank hold down
straps from Moss motors. They are well constructed with 1
exception. The "strap pad" (packing) thickness is .25" vs .125"
original thickness based upon several old straps I have. Not only
is their strapping twice as thick, it also is 2 layers of .125"
material. See attached Moss photo. This means that the steel straps
sit twice as high off of the gas tank. See Moss photo of an MGA
tank. Apparently, the Moss vendor made them to the Moss
specification. It is the specification that is in error.</div>
<div dir="ltr">Am I correct that the packing material should be
.125" thick? Were MGA strap pads thicker than Healeys?</div>
<div dir="ltr">Has anyone run into this since 2010?</div>
<div dir="ltr">Gary Hodson </div>
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<div>----- Forwarded Message -----</div>
<div><b>From:</b> Tech <<a>moss.tech@mossmotors.com</a>></div>
<div><b>To:</b> "<a>warthodson@aol.com</a>" <<a>warthodson@aol.com</a>></div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 11:29:19 AM CDT</div>
<div><b>Subject:</b> Fwd: 851-310 Gas Tank Strap - Too thick -
Westport Vintage Restorations 7-553606 - 5-6162672</div>
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<div><span>Please take a look at ticket </span><a href="https://mossmotorshelp.freshdesk.com/helpdesk/tickets/132027" style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255);">#132027</a><span> raised by Stu Bowman
(<a>bowmans@mossmotors.com</a>).</span></div>
<div><span dir="ltr">Hello,</span></div>
<div><span dir="ltr"><span style="font-size:14px;font-family:'Segoe UI', sans-serif;" dir="ltr">
The strap pad
thickness of just under 0.25” matches our 2010 drawing
specifications and has been produced to those specifications for
thirteen years now. We have not found the straps to cause an
installation issue during that time. </span></span></div>
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<span style="font-size:14px;font-family:'Segoe UI', sans-serif;">
I have attached a photo
of the prototype strap that preceded our specification changes on
this part number. Please note the strap is in a fully installed
state when this photo was taken.</span></div>
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<div><a><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:Arial, sans-serif;font-size:10pt;" dir="ltr">With regards,<br><br>
Ken Hyndman<br>
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Tech Services (Mon - Thurs 10am – 3.45 pm PST )<br>
Moss Motors, LTD.</span></a><span><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);"> </span></span><span><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:Arial, sans-serif;font-size:10pt;"><br>
800-667-7872 ext 7252<br></span></span><a title="mailto:hyndmank@mossmotors.com"><span><span style="color:rgb(5,99,193);font-family:Arial, sans-serif;font-size:10pt;">hyndmank@mossmotors.com</span></span></a></div>
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<blockquote>On Fri, 14 Jul at 6:12 AM <span>, Stu Bowman
<<a>bowmans@mossmotors.com</a>> wrote:</span>
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<div align="center" style="text-align:center;">
<span><b><u><span style="font-size:12pt;">MOSS MOTORS TECHNICAL
SUPPORT REQUEST</span></u></b></span></div>
<div align="center" style="text-align:center;"></div>
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<div align="center" style="text-align:center;"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;color:#ff0000;">TECHNICAL/PRODUCT
ISSUE. IF UPHOLSTERY ISSUE PLEASE INCLUDE JUP#:</span></div>
<div align="center" style="text-align:center;"></div>
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<div><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:'Bookman Old Style', serif;">WHAT EXACTLY
IS THE ISSUE?</span> <span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:'Bookman Old Style', serif;">...............:gas
tanks strap, the packing on it , is too thick</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:'Bookman Old Style', serif;">See
pic’s</span></div>
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<div><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:'Bookman Old Style', serif;">Please call
custom er advise of proper size packing on strip</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:'Bookman Old Style', serif;">TROUBLESHOOT
/ RESOLUTION…………..:</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:'Bookman Old Style', serif;">Part
#:......................:</span> <span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;">853-810 gas
tank strip</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:'Bookman Old Style', serif;">Moss Inv
#:..........................:</span> <span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;">5-6162672</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:'Bookman Old Style', serif;">Moss
Manufactured upholstery JUP
#.............................:</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:'Bookman Old Style', serif;">Has part
been installed? ……………………..:</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:'Bookman Old Style', serif;color:#ff0000;">
CUSTOMER INFO:</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:'Bookman Old Style', serif;">Customer
#........................:</span> <span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;">7-755606</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:'Bookman Old Style', serif;">Contact
Name:.................:</span> <span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;">waestport
vintage restorations</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:'Bookman Old Style', serif;">Phone:................................:</span>
<span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;">913-441-8335</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:'Bookman Old Style', serif;">Email
Address:....................:</span> <span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;"><a>warthodson@aol.com</a></span></div>
<div><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:'Bookman Old Style', serif;color:#ff0000;">
CAR INFO:</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:'Bookman Old Style', serif;">Year………:</span>
<span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;">all</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:'Bookman Old Style', serif;">Model……:</span>
<span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;">ahy</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:'Bookman Old Style', serif;">ANYTHING
SPECIAL ABOUT THE CAR/ENGINE?....:</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;">PHOTOS OF
PROBLEM:</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:'Bookman Old Style', serif;"> </span>
<span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:'Bookman Old Style', serif;"> </span></div>
<div><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:'Bookman Old Style', serif;color:#ff0000;">
Moss Technical Services Action Taken:</span></div>
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<div><b>From:</b> Warthodson <<a>warthodson@aol.com</a>><br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, July 13, 2023 4:19 PM<br><b>To:</b> Stu Bowman <<a>bowmans@mossmotors.com</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> 853-310</div>
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