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<div dir="auto">From what I have been told, the County pump sold by Moss should be run dry for about 30 seconds not sure why when I was told that, I had never of such thing.</div>
<div dir="auto">Having said that, I do not purchase new pumps, I have originals rebuilt. The place I use, is not inexpensive, but their work is fantastic, that is enough for me.</div>
<div dir="auto">The place is:</div>
<div dir="auto">John Stuart Power Brake, 349 Millen Rd. N., Stoney Creek Ontario L8E 2H3.</div>
<div dir="auto">PH: 905-662-7274 or 800-309-1995</div>
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<div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" style="font-size:11pt" color="#000000"><b>From:</b> Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, January 7, 2023 5:40:27 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> healeys@autox.team.net <healeys@autox.team.net><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] New up-rated 100/4 water pumps</font>
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<div class="PlainText">Just went through this ordeal. As you know, there isn't much choice for
<br>
100 pumps from the 'usual suspects;' it's either County or 'uprated.' <br>
'Uprated' is a brand called 'Bastuck;' I believe they're a German <br>
company. They do appear to have a somewhat better-designed impeller and <br>
compared to County they turn smoother (you probably know I'm not a big <br>
fan of County). Though otherwise a decent pump, the Bastucks have two <br>
issues:<br>
<br>
1) The thread for the heater return line--it's probably metric--will not <br>
fit the 100s nifty brass valve; you're stuck using the barbed nipple <br>
that comes with the pump. Disappointing since I've tried to keep my 100M <br>
original as much as possible and I have a lovely, original brass valve I <br>
can't use.<br>
<br>
2) The pump body has a threaded plug; for god-knows-what reason the <br>
threads are extremely loose and all but impossible to seal up. I tried <br>
the usual teflon tape, red threadlocker, 'normal' pipe sealant and JB <br>
Weld and none would seal even without being under pressure (the threads <br>
are really rough). I ended up brazing the plug on one pump, but feared I <br>
might have damaged the seal due to the heat required (oxy/acetylene) to <br>
heat the cast iron. In desperation, I bought a County pump but the <br>
bearings felt a bit rough. I got a tip from another Lister and sprung <br>
for a new Bastuck pump; the lister pointed me to this (apparently) new <br>
product from Permatex (NFI):<br>
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This stuff worked a treat, but be sure to follow the instructions re: <br>
cleaning and let this stuff cure for 72 hrs.<br>
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I've seen 'OEM/rebuilt' on eBay but can't vouch for them (they <br>
apparently have an older type seal). Tom Monaco knows someone he trusts <br>
who rebuilds them, but the guy's backlogged and Tom hasn't remembered to <br>
let me know when he gets some done (I've already pestered him a couple <br>
times). Any rebuilt OEM is liable to run $400 or more. Oh, and last I <br>
checked the Bastuck were sold out; BNP had some but apparently they took <br>
them off the shelf (possibly because of the issue with the sloppy plug).<br>
<br>
Wanna buy my new, in-the-box County pump? FWIW, the County pump I <br>
received has a similar barbed nipple for the return line and it appears <br>
to be epoxied in.<br>
<br>
Bob<br>
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On 1/7/2023 1:13 PM, Richard Mayor wrote:<br>
> Anyone have any experience with the "uprated" BN1-BN2 water pumps <br>
> being sold by Moss? I can see in the pictures that there is a brand <br>
> name......and it's not County.<br>
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