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    That about sums it up.<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/31/2022 7:56 PM, Simon Lachlan
      via Healeys wrote:<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">I
            made myself some notes which I later submitted to our local
            AH mag. Here’s the gist of them. May have posted this
            before….<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <ol style="margin-top:0cm" type="1" start="1">
          <li class="MsoNoSpacing" style="mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">“<span
              style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">All
              brake fluid is “synthetic”…it’s not a “natural” product.<o:p></o:p></span></li>
          <li class="MsoNoSpacing" style="mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><span
              style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Most
              synthetic fluids are NOT silicone. They are <span
                style="color:#222222">polyethylene <u>glycol</u> ether
                based.</span><o:p></o:p></span></li>
          <li class="MsoNoSpacing" style="mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><span
              style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">DOT
              3 & 4, which can be mixed, are not silicone. They are
              glycol.<o:p></o:p></span></li>
          <li class="MsoNoSpacing" style="mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><span
              style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">DOT
              5, which cannot be mixed with 3 or 4, is silicone. Can’t
              be mixed with anything!<o:p></o:p></span></li>
          <li class="MsoNoSpacing" style="mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><span
              style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">DOT
              5.1 is glycol based and cannot be mixed with DOT 5.<o:p></o:p></span></li>
          <li class="MsoNoSpacing" style="mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><span
              style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">DOT
              5.1 can be mixed with DOT 3 or 4, as both are glycol
              based.<o:p></o:p></span></li>
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        <p class="MsoNoSpacing"><span style="font-family:"Times New
            Roman",serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNoSpacing"><span style="font-family:"Times New
            Roman",serif">The word “synthetic” began to appear when
            manufacturers worked out that it made regular brake fluid
            sound more special ie they could charge us more money for
            the same old stuff.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNoSpacing"><span style="font-family:"Times New
            Roman",serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNoSpacing"><span style="font-family:"Times New
            Roman",serif">DOT stands for <b><u>D</u></b>ept. <b><u>O</u></b>f
            <b><u>T</u></b>ransport and relates to the fluids’ boiling
            points. If a car brakes at high speed, the brakes get hot.
            Some heat is carried away from the brakes by the brake
            fluid. Bad news if the fluid boils! The faster you’re going,
            the higher DOT you need. Higher DOT numbers indicate higher
            boiling points for “Dry” fluid (has not absorbed any water)
            and “Wet” fluids (has absorbed water). ie, the wetter it is,
            the more problematic it becomes. Mixing 3 with 4 lowers the
            boiling points and vice verca.”<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNoSpacing"><span style="font-family:"Times New
            Roman",serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNoSpacing"><span style="font-family:"Times New
            Roman",serif">Simon<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
                lang="EN-US"> Healeys
                <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net"><healeys-bounces@autox.team.net></a> <b>On Behalf Of
                </b>Mark Donaldson<br>
                <b>Sent:</b> 31 October 2022 22:06<br>
                <b>To:</b> 'Bob Spidell' <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:bspidell@comcast.net"><bspidell@comcast.net></a>;
                <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a><br>
                <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Brake Fluid<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
            lang="EN-NZ">DOT5 and DOT 5.1 are <b>NOT</b> compatible.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
            lang="EN-NZ"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
            lang="EN-NZ">I’ve have been using Bel-Ray DOT5 SBF in my BN2
            and my tri-carb since 1992.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
            lang="EN-NZ">I’ve never had a problem.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
            lang="EN-NZ"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
            lang="EN-NZ">Mark<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
            lang="EN-NZ">Ardmore, NZ<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            lang="EN-NZ"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
                lang="EN-US"> Bob Spidell <<a
                  href="mailto:bspidell@comcast.net"
                  moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">bspidell@comcast.net</a>>
                <br>
                <b>Sent:</b> Monday, 31 October 2022 5:35 PM<br>
                <b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"
                  moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">healeys@autox.team.net</a><br>
                <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Brake Fluid<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-NZ"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
            lang="EN-NZ">"... There is a newer Glycol Ester DOT5 ..."<br>
            <br>
            I think you're referring to 'DoT5.1'  I also think it was
            deliberately named so as to confuse the issue.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-NZ">On 10/30/2022 8:05 PM,
              Christopher Moog via Healeys wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
              lang="EN-NZ">I've used both. Currently prefer DOT4.<br>
              <br>
              Also everyone is speaking of DOT5 but there are now two
              different DOT5s. The first is the older silicone based
              DOT5. There is a newer Glycol Ester DOT5 that is
              compatible with DOT3 and DOT4. It has a lower viscosity
              than the DOT3 and DOT4 so it works better in some ABS
              systems. It also has a higher boiling point than DOT3 and
              DOT4. Don't see an advantage in Healeys.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-NZ">On 10/30/2022 10:00
                PM, Alan Seigrist wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
                  lang="EN-NZ">The best selling point for Dot 4 is you
                  can mix any Dot 4 or even Dot 3 if you need to fill
                  up.  As I understand it with Dot 5 you should be
                  careful to always use the same brand to fill up if
                  necessary.<br>
                  <br>
                  Also, neither Dot 5 not Dot 4 is great for sitting a
                  long time, Dot 4 absorbs water, Dot 5 will push any
                  water down into the components.<br>
                  <br>
                  Dot 4, if the car is not used regularly, needs to be
                  flushed every couple of years.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-NZ"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-NZ">On Mon, Oct 31,
                    2022 at 5:43 AM Michael MacLean <<a
                      href="mailto:springer.mike51@gmail.com"
                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                      class="moz-txt-link-freetext">springer.mike51@gmail.com</a>>
                    wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-NZ">At this
                        point in the restoration I have a completely
                        rebuilt brake system with all new components and
                        tubing.  Now is the time to make the decision to
                        use DOT 4 or Silicone.  What's the consensus, if
                        there is one?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-NZ">Mike MacLean<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-NZ"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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