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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-CA link=blue vlink=purple style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Josef, that is heartless and uncalled for. I was going to stay silent on your first post, but your reply to Jim is beyond the pale and I feel for me not to comment would be disrespectful to his family and friends. I expect it may illicit another unwanted reply, but I can’t let this go by without expressing my disgust at your attitude.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I doubt you have the details of the incident and your opinion is based on what the press chose to publish. I also doubt you know the victim and are ignorant regarding his competence to drive. Your lack of compassion for their family and friends is based on uniformed speculation and is simply inhuman. I am certain does not reflect the compassion of the Healey community.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Your rant is not about Healeys per se, so please don’t burden the list with it.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Mirek<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US> Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> <b>On Behalf Of </b>josef-eckert--- via Healeys<br><b>Sent:</b> October 6, 2022 3:33 PM<br><b>To:</b> Jim Ryan <ryan@jimryan.com><br><b>Cc:</b> Forum Healey <healeys@autox.team.net><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p style='margin:0cm'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Yes, please forward my comment to his family. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p style='margin:0cm'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>This person hasn´t recognizsed his limits and was a danger for other people on the road, drivers, bikers and cyclists, and even pedestrians, which are on our rural roads as well and also want to live and be not hurt by such a person.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p style='margin:0cm'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Sorry, no mercy at all from my side.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p style='margin:0cm'> <o:p></o:p></p><p style='margin:0cm'> <o:p></o:p></p><p style='margin:0cm'> <o:p></o:p></p><p style='margin:0cm'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p style='margin:0cm'> <o:p></o:p></p><p style='margin:0cm'> <o:p></o:p></p><p style='margin:0cm'>-----Original-Nachricht-----<o:p></o:p></p><p style='margin:0cm'>Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100<o:p></o:p></p><p style='margin:0cm'>Datum: 2022-10-06T21:15:03+0200<o:p></o:p></p><p style='margin:0cm'>Von: "Jim Ryan" <<a href="mailto:ryan@jimryan.com">ryan@jimryan.com</a>><o:p></o:p></p><p style='margin:0cm'>An: "<a href="mailto:josef-eckert@t-online.de">josef-eckert@t-online.de</a>" <<a href="mailto:josef-eckert@t-online.de">josef-eckert@t-online.de</a>><o:p></o:p></p><p style='margin:0cm'> <o:p></o:p></p><p style='margin:0cm'> <o:p></o:p></p><p style='margin:0cm'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Well, THAT was harsh. You might want to forward that to his family just so they know how you feel about him. When exactly is it you think we should all stop driving? Is it 75? 80? I'm 71, I just want to get your advice on what age I'm endangering other people. <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>That was easily the most insensitive posting I have ever seen on this list.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Thu, Oct 6, 2022 at 11:52 AM josef-eckert--- via Healeys <<a href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'>To be honest, I have no respect for such a person, or better 82 years old fart who brought others in danger with his driving. Thankfully no other person was invoved and injured. <br><br>Its very common all over in central Europe to have these ditches, trees or even walls along country roads. That is how we love it. <br><br>For big money you can book in to take part in one of these leasure raĺlys, where you get all accomodation organised, only you have to come from a to b along. these rallys are mainly booked from those mainly elderly people who do not know what to do otherwise with their money, even they are completely overextended by driving an old classic car. <br><br>One should be wise enough to give up driving, when you are no more capable to drive. <br><br>I am only sorry about the wrecked Austin-Healey.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'>Josef Eckert</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white'><span style='color:black'>konigswinter/GERMANY<br><br><br> <br><br> <br><br> <br><br>-----Original-Nachricht----- <br><br>Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 <br><br>Datum: 2022-10-06T10:31:49+0200 <br><br>Von: "Michael Oritt" <<a href="mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com">michael.oritt@gmail.com</a>> <br><br>An: "Michael Salter" <<a href="mailto:michaelsalter@gmail.com">michaelsalter@gmail.com</a>> <br><br> <br><br> <br><br> <br><br>Michael-- <br><br> <br><br>Most of them weren't "open" ditches--they were filled with rocks. <br><br>I fondly recall the time we missed a left-hander, went off the road, somehow hurtled OVER the ditch and landed in a tree in a fellow's front yard. As I remember it he stood there rather stunned while we cleared the branches out of the wheel openings, then hopped into the car and took off without much conversation. <br><br> <br><br>Best--Michael Oritt <br><br><br>On Wed, Oct 5, 2022 at 10:36 PM Michael Salter via Healeys <<a href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a>> wrote: <br><br>"all the roads are surrounded by open drainage ditches." <br><br>Just like Newfoundland which for me was a major factor in giving up on the Targa there. <br><br> <br><br>M <br><br>On Wed., Oct. 5, 2022, 1:06 a.m. Alan Seigrist via Healeys, <<a href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a>> wrote: <br><br>Italian roads are amazing for driving through beautiful countryside, but they are deadly because all the roads are surrounded by open drainage ditches. <br><br><br>On Wed, 5 Oct 2022 at 3:27 AM, Richard Kahn via Healeys <<a href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a>> wrote: <br><br>I saw this yesterday. Very sad on so many levels. I was wondering if this is the drive a number of the Southern California Healey Association members are on in Europe at this moment. <br><br> <br><br>From: Healeys <<a href="mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>> on behalf of Randy Hicks via Healeys <<a href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a>> <br>Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 5:40 AM <br>To: Healey List <<a href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a>> <br>Subject: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 <br><br> <br><br>Awful. <br><br> <br><br><a href="https://www.the-sun.com/news/6355269/british-expat-killed-horror-crash-rally-austin-healey/">https://www.the-sun.com/news/6355269/british-expat-killed-horror-crash-rally-austin-healey/</a> <br><br> <br><br>Randy <br><br>_______________________________________________ <br>Support Team.Net <a href="http://www.team.net/donate.html">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a> <br>Suggested annual donation $12.75 <br><br>Archive: <a href="http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys">http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys</a> <a href="http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys">http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys</a> <br><br><a href="mailto:Healeys@autox.team.net">Healeys@autox.team.net</a> <br><a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys">http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys</a> <br><br>Unsubscribe/Manage: <a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut@gmail.com">http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut@gmail.com</a> <br><br>_______________________________________________ <br>Support Team.Net <a href="http://www.team.net/donate.html">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a> <br>Suggested annual donation $12.75 <br><br>Archive: <a href="http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys">http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys</a> <a href="http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys">http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys</a> <br><br><a href="mailto:Healeys@autox.team.net">Healeys@autox.team.net</a> <br><a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys">http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys</a> <br><br>Unsubscribe/Manage: <a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter@gmail.com">http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter@gmail.com</a> <br><br>_______________________________________________ <br>Support Team.Net <a href="http://www.team.net/donate.html">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a> <br>Suggested annual donation $12.75 <br><br>Archive: <a href="http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys">http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys</a> <a href="http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys">http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys</a> <br><br><a href="mailto:Healeys@autox.team.net">Healeys@autox.team.net</a> <br><a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys">http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys</a> <br><br>Unsubscribe/Manage: <a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt@gmail.com">http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt@gmail.com</a> <br><br><br></span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>_______________________________________________<br>Support Team.Net <a href="http://www.team.net/donate.html">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br>Suggested annual donation $12.75<br><br>Archive: <a href="http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys">http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys</a> <a href="http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys">http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys</a><br><br><a href="mailto:Healeys@autox.team.net">Healeys@autox.team.net</a><br><a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys">http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys</a><br><br>Unsubscribe/Manage: <a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ryan@jimryan.com">http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ryan@jimryan.com</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal><br clear=all><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>-- <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p style='margin:0cm'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:navy'>Jim Ryan</span><span style='font-size:9.5pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0cm'><span style='font-size:9.5pt'>©¿©¬<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p></o:p></p></div></body></html>