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Misfire issue<div><br></div><div>I suspect that the weight of the fuel is causing a ground to go away. When the tank is light it reappears. That’s my hunch. </div><div>Good luck,</div><div>Dave Walsh<br><br><br><a href="https://apps.apple.com/us/app/aol-news-email-weather-video/id646100661">Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS</a><br><br><p class="yahoo-quoted-begin" style="font-size: 15px; color: #715FFA; padding-top: 15px; margin-top: 0">On Friday, September 30, 2022, 3:18 PM, healeys-request@autox.team.net <healeys-request@autox.team.net> wrote:</p><blockquote class="iosymail"><div dir="ltr">Send Healeys mailing list submissions to<br></div><div dir="ltr"> <a ymailto="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net" href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<br></div><div dir="ltr"> <a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to<br></div><div dir="ltr"> <a ymailto="mailto:healeys-request@autox.team.net" href="mailto:healeys-request@autox.team.net">healeys-request@autox.team.net</a><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">You can reach the person managing the list at<br></div><div dir="ltr"> <a ymailto="mailto:healeys-owner@autox.team.net" href="mailto:healeys-owner@autox.team.net">healeys-owner@autox.team.net</a><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<br></div><div dir="ltr">than "Re: Contents of Healeys digest..."<br></div>Today's Topics:<br><br> 1. Re: Greasing the Driveshaft U Joint (John Spaur)<br> 2. Re: Austin Healey 100 Misfire Diagnosis. (Jim Ryan)<br> 3. Re: Austin Healey 100 Misfire Diagnosis. (Alan Wasserman)<br> 4. Re: Austin Healey 100 Misfire Diagnosis. (Michael Oritt)<br> 5. Re: Austin Healey 100 Misfire Diagnosis. (Alan Seigrist)<br> 6. Re: Austin Healey 100 Misfire Diagnosis. (Michael Salter)<br> 7. Re: Austin Healey 100 Misfire Diagnosis. (Michael Oritt)<br> 8. Re: Austin Healey 100 Misfire Diagnosis. (WILLIAM B LAWRENCE)<br> 9. Re: Austin Healey 100 Misfire Diagnosis. (Alan Seigrist)<br> 10. Re: Austin Healey 100 Misfire Diagnosis. (Roland Wilhelmy)<br> 11. Austin Healey 100 Misfire Diagnosis. (<a ymailto="mailto:josef-eckert@t-online.de" href="mailto:josef-eckert@t-online.de">josef-eckert@t-online.de</a>)<br> 12. Re: ignition warning light (Mark Donaldson)<br> 13. Re: ignition warning light (<a ymailto="mailto:simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com" href="mailto:simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com">simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com</a>)<br> 14. Re: ignition warning light (Mark Donaldson)<br> 15. Re: ignition warning light (<a ymailto="mailto:simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com" href="mailto:simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com">simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com</a>)<br> 16. Ignition warning light (Ian Hey)<br> 17. Re: Ignition warning light (Warren Dietz)<br> 18. Re: Ignition warning light (<a ymailto="mailto:simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com" href="mailto:simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com">simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com</a>)<br> 19. BN2 side curtain rivet type (S and T Miller)<br><div id="ymsg40737" class="ymsg7529170944" src="mid://AMYZP5FwnNWIYzdA7gvi-NXvfoY/3.1"><div id="yiv4626836949"><style><!--
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--></style><div><div class="yiv4626836949WordSection1"><p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;color:#1F497D;">They are typically 1” long.</span></p><p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;color:#1F497D;"> </span></p><p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;color:#1F497D;">John</span></p><p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;color:#1F497D;"> </span></p><p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;"> Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Harold Manifold<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, September 29, 2022 9:32 AM<br><b>To:</b> Healey List <healeys@autox.team.net><br><b>Subject:</b> [Healeys] Greasing the Driveshaft U Joint</span></p><p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal"> </p><div><p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Hello,</p><div><p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">My Healey is nearing completion and after installing the driveshaft I tried to grease the U-Joint only to find the nozzle on my grease gun is too large to fit into the u-joint. Is there a grease gun with a narrow nozzle or a narrow nozzle extension? I replaced the u-joints and used the grease fittings that came with the new joints. Should the grease nipples (zerk fitting) be changed to the longer ones?</p></div><div><p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Thanks... Harold</p></div><div><p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal"> </p></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id="ymsg26187" class="ymsg7529170944" src="mid://AMYZP5FwnNWIYzdA7gvi-NXvfoY/3.2"><div id="yiv4626836949"><div>What happens if you don't turn the car off when you fill it up?</div><br><div class="yiv4626836949gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="yiv4626836949gmail_attr">On Thu, Sep 29, 2022, 11:07 AM Don Anglesey via Healeys <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;" class="yiv4626836949gmail_quote">
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">I suspect that when the tank is filled any sediment or debris around the tank intake is redistributed thru the fuel then it settles again. Classic sign of bad fuel filter or sediment in tank.</p>
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<p style="border:none;padding:0in;" class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><b>From: </b><a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto="mailto:michaelsalter@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:michaelsalter@gmail.com">Michael Salter</a><br>
<b>Sent: </b>Thursday, September 29, 2022 8:10 AM<br>
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<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Healeys] Austin Healey 100 Misfire Diagnosis.</p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Thanks to all who have obviously given this misfire issue considerable thought. I will be sure to check all suggestions. <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">I should like to point out however that it is the immediate vanishing of the misfire after filling the fuel tank that has me confused. <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">This has happened three times simce the problem appeared.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">I just don't understand how an ignition problem could change as a result of filling the tank.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Furthermore I'm convinced that this is not a fuel starvation problem because the amount of engine power being used has no effect.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Totally baffled.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Thanks again to all ... I'll report back.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">On Thu., Sep. 29, 2022, 9:14 a.m. Alan Seigrist via Healeys, <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Yes, that was the point I was trying to make, sorry if it fell through bad interpretation! As Ed McMahon used to say, "You Are Correct Sir!"<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Cheers,<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Alan<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 7:53 PM john harper <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto="mailto:ah100tech@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:ah100tech@gmail.com">ah100tech@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Coils can fail with heat and then recover when cooled. I had one that had these symptoms and when looking closely I saw that the insulating oil had run out through a very small crack in the bottom of the case.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">On Thu, 29 Sept 2022 at 10:34, Alan Seigrist <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto="mailto:healey.nut@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:healey.nut@gmail.com">healey.nut@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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Just as a follow up to my email since the symptoms seem to manifest themself ... <u></u><u></u></p>
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whether the car is warmed up or not - this typically will exclude anything related to fuel or the coil<u></u><u></u></li><li class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">
whether the car is under load or not - this typically will exclude anything related to fuel<u></u><u></u></li><li class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">
whether the choke is pulled or not - this typically will exclude anything related to fuel<u></u><u></u></li><li class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">
somewhat intermittent but systematically under all conditions - suggests to me wiring / ground issues<u></u><u></u></li></ul>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Given this I'd check (as a priority):<u></u><u></u></p>
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Battery Master (when these fail they will ground the coil)<u></u><u></u></li><li class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">
primary ignition wire (white) from the switch to coil (cycle the connections)<u></u><u></u></li><li class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">
motor ground straps (cycle the connections)<u></u><u></u></li><li class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">
loose wires in the dizzy<u></u><u></u></li><li class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">
loose ignition wires into the dizzy or spark plug<u></u><u></u></li></ul>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Other things to possibly do (as secondary):<u></u><u></u></p>
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replace rotor<u></u><u></u></li><li class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">I don't think it would be contacts or condensor simply because this would either be very regular all the time, or maybe sensitive to temp.<br>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 4:46 PM Bob Spidell <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto="mailto:bspidell@comcast.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:bspidell@comcast.net">bspidell@comcast.net</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;" class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">re: "... I don’t recall if that wire is separate from the distributor wire ..."<br>
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It is (or should be). If the battery switch is in the 'OFF' position it grounds the coil primary so no spark.<br>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">On 9/28/2022 8:34 PM, Alan Seigrist wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Have you tried cycling the connections on the white wire from the ignition switch to the coil, and also from the coil to the distributor.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">You might also want to try disconnecting the black and white wire at the coil from the battery master switch - if it’s failing you’ll get weird symptoms like this. If that wire is disconnected the car should run no problem. I don’t recall
if that wire is separate from the distributor wire, if it isn’t you’ll have to disconnect it from underneath the master switch itself.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Best,<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Alan<u></u><u></u></p>
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</div></div><div id="ymsg79024" class="ymsg7529170944" src="mid://AMYZP5FwnNWIYzdA7gvi-NXvfoY/3.3"><div id="yiv4626836949"><div>How old are your plug wires? Any chance a few worn out wires be the origin?<br><br><div dir="ltr">Alan Wasserman<div>Alanwassermannc@gmail.com</div><div>732-887-0742</div><div>www.wassermanstudio.com</div></div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On Sep 28, 2022, at 6:24 PM, Michael Salter <michaelsalter@gmail.com> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:small;" class="yiv4626836949gmail_default">
<p style="text-align:center;margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:sans-serif;" align="center" class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:18pt;line-height:107%;"><span></span></span></b></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:sans-serif;" class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">This problem has plagued me for over 1000 miles.<span></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:sans-serif;" class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Today I had to drive some 200 miles and this is how it went:<span></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:sans-serif;" class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Starting from cold I experienced a persistent and irregular misfire.
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<p style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:sans-serif;" class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Pulling the choke out made no perceivable difference.<span></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:sans-serif;" class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Power was not much affected and the car cruised along well
in top overdrive with just regular periods of misfiring.<span></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:sans-serif;" class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Climbing slopes really made no difference, even when full
throttle was applied for 10 - 15 seconds.<span></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:sans-serif;" class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Misfire continued for some 90 miles with no change when the
engine was fully heated up.<span></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:sans-serif;" class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">I could really do nothing to influence the rate of the
misfire although it did seem to be slightly less evident at low throttle
settings.<span></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:sans-serif;" class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">After 90 miles I stopped briefly to get fuel and upon
starting off it was quite evident that the misfire had disappeared almost completely
and remained that way for at least 80 miles after which it started to misfire
just a little as I came to the end of the trip.<span></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:sans-serif;" class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><u><span> </span>POSSIBLE CAUSES</u><span></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0in 0.5in;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:sans-serif;" class="yiv4626836949gmail-MsoListParagraphCxSpFirst"><span><span>1.<span style="font:7pt New;">
</span></span></span>Plugs … not like a bad plug. The misfire seems
to be more than 1 cylinder and never came close to being the regular beat that 1
plug misfiring produces. All the plugs have a healthy brown/ grey appearance.<span></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0in 0.5in;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:sans-serif;" class="yiv4626836949gmail-MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle"><span><span>2.<span style="font:7pt New;">
</span></span></span>Coil …<span> </span>In
my experience coils are very reliable but when they do fail they tend to fail
as they warm up and the problem gets worse as the coil warms up<span></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0in 0.5in;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:sans-serif;" class="yiv4626836949gmail-MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle"><span><span>3.<span style="font:7pt New;">
</span></span></span>Points … a possibility but the dwell is set at
exactly 60 degrees and does not waver at all when the engine is running in the
shop.<span></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 8pt 0.5in;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:sans-serif;" class="yiv4626836949gmail-MsoListParagraphCxSpLast"><span><span>4.<span style="font:7pt New;">
</span></span></span>Fuel pump … if the engine was starving for fuel
because of a fuel supply issue caused by a blockage or failing pump the problem
would get worse when the demand for fuel increased, as in climbing a hill of
full throttle. This was absolutely not the case.</p><p style="margin:0in 0in 8pt 0.5in;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:sans-serif;" class="yiv4626836949gmail-MsoListParagraphCxSpLast"><br></p><p style="margin:0in 0in 8pt 0.5in;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:sans-serif;" class="yiv4626836949gmail-MsoListParagraphCxSpLast">Any ideas folks?<br></p><p style="margin:0in 0in 8pt 0.5in;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:sans-serif;" class="yiv4626836949gmail-MsoListParagraphCxSpLast"><br></p>
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</div></blockquote></div></div></div><div id="ymsg14907" class="ymsg7529170944" src="mid://AMYZP5FwnNWIYzdA7gvi-NXvfoY/3.4"><div id="yiv4626836949"><div dir="ltr"><div style="color:#3333ff;" class="yiv4626836949gmail_default">I had a similar miss that was caused by a leaf that had gotten into the tank. It would be pulled against the pickup by fuel flow and cause the engine to lose power on all cylinders, as opposed to a miss. When I either got off the gas pedal or shut the engine down the leaf would apparently fall away from the pickup and everything would be fine until the leaf was once again pulled against the pickup, etc. etc. </div><div style="color:#3333ff;" class="yiv4626836949gmail_default"><br></div><div style="color:#3333ff;" class="yiv4626836949gmail_default">I empirically came up with this theory after I pulled the fuel sender, searched around in the tank with a flashlight and found the leaf, and after I removed it the miss went away. How the leaf got into the tank when the fuel filler is inside the boot is a larger issue I never figured out.</div><div style="color:#3333ff;" class="yiv4626836949gmail_default"><br></div><div style="color:#3333ff;" class="yiv4626836949gmail_default">Best--Michael Oritt</div><div style="color:#3333ff;" class="yiv4626836949gmail_default"><br></div></div><br><div class="yiv4626836949gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="yiv4626836949gmail_attr">On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 11:01 AM Don Anglesey via Healeys <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;" class="yiv4626836949gmail_quote"><div class="yiv4626836949msg-7850246941406118022">
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">I suspect that when the tank is filled any sediment or debris around the tank intake is redistributed thru the fuel then it settles again. Classic sign of bad fuel filter or sediment in tank.</p>
<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Don</p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Sent from <a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" href="https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986">
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<p style="border:none;padding:0in;" class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><b>From: </b><a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto="mailto:michaelsalter@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:michaelsalter@gmail.com">Michael Salter</a><br>
<b>Sent: </b>Thursday, September 29, 2022 8:10 AM<br>
<b>To: </b><a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto="mailto:healey.nut@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:healey.nut@gmail.com">Alan Seigrist</a><br>
<b>Cc: </b><a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net">Healey list</a><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Healeys] Austin Healey 100 Misfire Diagnosis.</p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Thanks to all who have obviously given this misfire issue considerable thought. I will be sure to check all suggestions. <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">I should like to point out however that it is the immediate vanishing of the misfire after filling the fuel tank that has me confused. <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">This has happened three times simce the problem appeared.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">I just don't understand how an ignition problem could change as a result of filling the tank.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Furthermore I'm convinced that this is not a fuel starvation problem because the amount of engine power being used has no effect.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Totally baffled.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Thanks again to all ... I'll report back.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">On Thu., Sep. 29, 2022, 9:14 a.m. Alan Seigrist via Healeys, <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Hi John -<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Yes, that was the point I was trying to make, sorry if it fell through bad interpretation! As Ed McMahon used to say, "You Are Correct Sir!"<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Cheers,<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Alan<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 7:53 PM john harper <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto="mailto:ah100tech@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:ah100tech@gmail.com">ah100tech@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Alan<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Coils can fail with heat and then recover when cooled. I had one that had these symptoms and when looking closely I saw that the insulating oil had run out through a very small crack in the bottom of the case.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">On Thu, 29 Sept 2022 at 10:34, Alan Seigrist <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto="mailto:healey.nut@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:healey.nut@gmail.com">healey.nut@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Michael -<br>
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Just as a follow up to my email since the symptoms seem to manifest themself ... <u></u><u></u></p>
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whether the car is warmed up or not - this typically will exclude anything related to fuel or the coil<u></u><u></u></li><li class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">
whether the car is under load or not - this typically will exclude anything related to fuel<u></u><u></u></li><li class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">
whether the choke is pulled or not - this typically will exclude anything related to fuel<u></u><u></u></li><li class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">
somewhat intermittent but systematically under all conditions - suggests to me wiring / ground issues<u></u><u></u></li></ul>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Given this I'd check (as a priority):<u></u><u></u></p>
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Battery Master (when these fail they will ground the coil)<u></u><u></u></li><li class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">
primary ignition wire (white) from the switch to coil (cycle the connections)<u></u><u></u></li><li class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">
motor ground straps (cycle the connections)<u></u><u></u></li><li class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">
loose wires in the dizzy<u></u><u></u></li><li class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">
loose ignition wires into the dizzy or spark plug<u></u><u></u></li></ul>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Other things to possibly do (as secondary):<u></u><u></u></p>
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replace rotor<u></u><u></u></li><li class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">
replace dizzy cap<u></u><u></u></li></ul>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">I don't think it would be contacts or condensor simply because this would either be very regular all the time, or maybe sensitive to temp.<br>
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Best,<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p style="margin-bottom:12pt;" class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Alan<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 4:46 PM Bob Spidell <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto="mailto:bspidell@comcast.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:bspidell@comcast.net">bspidell@comcast.net</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p style="margin-bottom:12pt;" class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">re: "... I don’t recall if that wire is separate from the distributor wire ..."<br>
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It is (or should be). If the battery switch is in the 'OFF' position it grounds the coil primary so no spark.<br>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">On 9/28/2022 8:34 PM, Alan Seigrist wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Hi Michael -<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Have you tried cycling the connections on the white wire from the ignition switch to the coil, and also from the coil to the distributor.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">You might also want to try disconnecting the black and white wire at the coil from the battery master switch - if it’s failing you’ll get weird symptoms like this. If that wire is disconnected the car should run no problem. I don’t recall
if that wire is separate from the distributor wire, if it isn’t you’ll have to disconnect it from underneath the master switch itself.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Best,<u></u><u></u></p>
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</div></div><div id="ymsg15663" class="ymsg7529170944" src="mid://AMYZP5FwnNWIYzdA7gvi-NXvfoY/3.5"><div id="yiv4626836949"><div>Good point. I had a very similar experience when I had mistakenly used high heat silicone to seal the fuel tank sender, and I didn’t know that fuel caused flakes of it to fall off and plug the pickup intermittently.</div><div><br><div class="yiv4626836949gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="yiv4626836949gmail_attr">On Fri, 30 Sep 2022 at 4:38 AM, Michael Oritt <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto="mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com">michael.oritt@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;" class="yiv4626836949gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr"><div style="color:#3333ff;" class="yiv4626836949gmail_default">I had a similar miss that was caused by a leaf that had gotten into the tank. It would be pulled against the pickup by fuel flow and cause the engine to lose power on all cylinders, as opposed to a miss. When I either got off the gas pedal or shut the engine down the leaf would apparently fall away from the pickup and everything would be fine until the leaf was once again pulled against the pickup, etc. etc. </div><div style="color:#3333ff;" class="yiv4626836949gmail_default"><br></div><div style="color:#3333ff;" class="yiv4626836949gmail_default">I empirically came up with this theory after I pulled the fuel sender, searched around in the tank with a flashlight and found the leaf, and after I removed it the miss went away. How the leaf got into the tank when the fuel filler is inside the boot is a larger issue I never figured out.</div><div style="color:#3333ff;" class="yiv4626836949gmail_default"><br></div><div style="color:#3333ff;" class="yiv4626836949gmail_default">Best--Michael Oritt</div><div style="color:#3333ff;" class="yiv4626836949gmail_default"><br></div></div><br><div class="yiv4626836949gmail_quote"></div><div class="yiv4626836949gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="yiv4626836949gmail_attr">On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 11:01 AM Don Anglesey via Healeys <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<br></div></div><div class="yiv4626836949gmail_quote"><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;" class="yiv4626836949gmail_quote"><div></div></blockquote></div><div class="yiv4626836949gmail_quote"><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;" class="yiv4626836949gmail_quote"><div>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">I suspect that when the tank is filled any sediment or debris around the tank intake is redistributed thru the fuel then it settles again. Classic sign of bad fuel filter or sediment in tank.</p>
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<p style="border:none;padding:0in;" class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><b>From: </b><a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto="mailto:michaelsalter@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:michaelsalter@gmail.com">Michael Salter</a><br>
<b>Sent: </b>Thursday, September 29, 2022 8:10 AM<br>
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<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Healeys] Austin Healey 100 Misfire Diagnosis.</p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Thanks to all who have obviously given this misfire issue considerable thought. I will be sure to check all suggestions. <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">I should like to point out however that it is the immediate vanishing of the misfire after filling the fuel tank that has me confused. <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">This has happened three times simce the problem appeared.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">I just don't understand how an ignition problem could change as a result of filling the tank.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Furthermore I'm convinced that this is not a fuel starvation problem because the amount of engine power being used has no effect.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Totally baffled.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Thanks again to all ... I'll report back.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">On Thu., Sep. 29, 2022, 9:14 a.m. Alan Seigrist via Healeys, <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Hi John -<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Yes, that was the point I was trying to make, sorry if it fell through bad interpretation! As Ed McMahon used to say, "You Are Correct Sir!"<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Cheers,<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 7:53 PM john harper <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto="mailto:ah100tech@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:ah100tech@gmail.com">ah100tech@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Coils can fail with heat and then recover when cooled. I had one that had these symptoms and when looking closely I saw that the insulating oil had run out through a very small crack in the bottom of the case.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">On Thu, 29 Sept 2022 at 10:34, Alan Seigrist <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto="mailto:healey.nut@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:healey.nut@gmail.com">healey.nut@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Michael -<br>
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Just as a follow up to my email since the symptoms seem to manifest themself ... <u></u><u></u></p>
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whether the car is warmed up or not - this typically will exclude anything related to fuel or the coil<u></u><u></u></li><li class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">
whether the car is under load or not - this typically will exclude anything related to fuel<u></u><u></u></li><li class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">
whether the choke is pulled or not - this typically will exclude anything related to fuel<u></u><u></u></li><li class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">
somewhat intermittent but systematically under all conditions - suggests to me wiring / ground issues<u></u><u></u></li></ul>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Given this I'd check (as a priority):<u></u><u></u></p>
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Battery Master (when these fail they will ground the coil)<u></u><u></u></li><li class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">
primary ignition wire (white) from the switch to coil (cycle the connections)<u></u><u></u></li><li class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">
motor ground straps (cycle the connections)<u></u><u></u></li><li class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">
loose wires in the dizzy<u></u><u></u></li><li class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">
loose ignition wires into the dizzy or spark plug<u></u><u></u></li></ul>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Other things to possibly do (as secondary):<u></u><u></u></p>
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replace rotor<u></u><u></u></li><li class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">I don't think it would be contacts or condensor simply because this would either be very regular all the time, or maybe sensitive to temp.<br>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 4:46 PM Bob Spidell <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto="mailto:bspidell@comcast.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:bspidell@comcast.net">bspidell@comcast.net</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p style="margin-bottom:12pt;" class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">re: "... I don’t recall if that wire is separate from the distributor wire ..."<br>
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It is (or should be). If the battery switch is in the 'OFF' position it grounds the coil primary so no spark.<br>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">On 9/28/2022 8:34 PM, Alan Seigrist wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Have you tried cycling the connections on the white wire from the ignition switch to the coil, and also from the coil to the distributor.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">You might also want to try disconnecting the black and white wire at the coil from the battery master switch - if it’s failing you’ll get weird symptoms like this. If that wire is disconnected the car should run no problem. I don’t recall
if that wire is separate from the distributor wire, if it isn’t you’ll have to disconnect it from underneath the master switch itself.<u></u><u></u></p>
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</div></div><div id="ymsg58280" class="ymsg7529170944" src="mid://AMYZP5FwnNWIYzdA7gvi-NXvfoY/3.6"><div id="yiv4626836949"><div>BUT ... the fact that full throttle and climbing a slope with no change in the amount of misfiring tends to negate fuel blockage as a cause. <div>I'm starting to think that the refueling situation is something of a "red herring" although it certainly is an odd one.</div></div><br><div class="yiv4626836949gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="yiv4626836949gmail_attr">On Thu., Sep. 29, 2022, 9:23 p.m. Alan Seigrist, <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto="mailto:healey.nut@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:healey.nut@gmail.com">healey.nut@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;" class="yiv4626836949gmail_quote"><div>Good point. I had a very similar experience when I had mistakenly used high heat silicone to seal the fuel tank sender, and I didn’t know that fuel caused flakes of it to fall off and plug the pickup intermittently.</div><div><br><div class="yiv4626836949gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="yiv4626836949gmail_attr">On Fri, 30 Sep 2022 at 4:38 AM, Michael Oritt <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto="mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com">michael.oritt@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;" class="yiv4626836949gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr"><div style="color:#3333ff;" class="yiv4626836949gmail_default">I had a similar miss that was caused by a leaf that had gotten into the tank. It would be pulled against the pickup by fuel flow and cause the engine to lose power on all cylinders, as opposed to a miss. When I either got off the gas pedal or shut the engine down the leaf would apparently fall away from the pickup and everything would be fine until the leaf was once again pulled against the pickup, etc. etc. </div><div style="color:#3333ff;" class="yiv4626836949gmail_default"><br></div><div style="color:#3333ff;" class="yiv4626836949gmail_default">I empirically came up with this theory after I pulled the fuel sender, searched around in the tank with a flashlight and found the leaf, and after I removed it the miss went away. How the leaf got into the tank when the fuel filler is inside the boot is a larger issue I never figured out.</div><div style="color:#3333ff;" class="yiv4626836949gmail_default"><br></div><div style="color:#3333ff;" class="yiv4626836949gmail_default">Best--Michael Oritt</div><div style="color:#3333ff;" class="yiv4626836949gmail_default"><br></div></div><br><div class="yiv4626836949gmail_quote"></div><div class="yiv4626836949gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="yiv4626836949gmail_attr">On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 11:01 AM Don Anglesey via Healeys <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<br></div></div><div class="yiv4626836949gmail_quote"><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;" class="yiv4626836949gmail_quote"><div></div></blockquote></div><div class="yiv4626836949gmail_quote"><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;" class="yiv4626836949gmail_quote"><div>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">I suspect that when the tank is filled any sediment or debris around the tank intake is redistributed thru the fuel then it settles again. Classic sign of bad fuel filter or sediment in tank.</p>
<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Don</p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Thanks to all who have obviously given this misfire issue considerable thought. I will be sure to check all suggestions. <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">I should like to point out however that it is the immediate vanishing of the misfire after filling the fuel tank that has me confused. <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">This has happened three times simce the problem appeared.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">I just don't understand how an ignition problem could change as a result of filling the tank.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Furthermore I'm convinced that this is not a fuel starvation problem because the amount of engine power being used has no effect.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Totally baffled.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Thanks again to all ... I'll report back.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">On Thu., Sep. 29, 2022, 9:14 a.m. Alan Seigrist via Healeys, <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Yes, that was the point I was trying to make, sorry if it fell through bad interpretation! As Ed McMahon used to say, "You Are Correct Sir!"<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Cheers,<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 7:53 PM john harper <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto="mailto:ah100tech@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:ah100tech@gmail.com">ah100tech@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Coils can fail with heat and then recover when cooled. I had one that had these symptoms and when looking closely I saw that the insulating oil had run out through a very small crack in the bottom of the case.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">On Thu, 29 Sept 2022 at 10:34, Alan Seigrist <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto="mailto:healey.nut@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:healey.nut@gmail.com">healey.nut@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Michael -<br>
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Just as a follow up to my email since the symptoms seem to manifest themself ... <u></u><u></u></p>
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whether the car is warmed up or not - this typically will exclude anything related to fuel or the coil<u></u><u></u></li><li class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">
whether the car is under load or not - this typically will exclude anything related to fuel<u></u><u></u></li><li class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">
whether the choke is pulled or not - this typically will exclude anything related to fuel<u></u><u></u></li><li class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">
somewhat intermittent but systematically under all conditions - suggests to me wiring / ground issues<u></u><u></u></li></ul>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Given this I'd check (as a priority):<u></u><u></u></p>
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Battery Master (when these fail they will ground the coil)<u></u><u></u></li><li class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">
primary ignition wire (white) from the switch to coil (cycle the connections)<u></u><u></u></li><li class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">
motor ground straps (cycle the connections)<u></u><u></u></li><li class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">
loose wires in the dizzy<u></u><u></u></li><li class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">
loose ignition wires into the dizzy or spark plug<u></u><u></u></li></ul>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Other things to possibly do (as secondary):<u></u><u></u></p>
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replace rotor<u></u><u></u></li><li class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">I don't think it would be contacts or condensor simply because this would either be very regular all the time, or maybe sensitive to temp.<br>
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<p style="margin-bottom:12pt;" class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Alan<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p style="margin-bottom:12pt;" class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">re: "... I don’t recall if that wire is separate from the distributor wire ..."<br>
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It is (or should be). If the battery switch is in the 'OFF' position it grounds the coil primary so no spark.<br>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Have you tried cycling the connections on the white wire from the ignition switch to the coil, and also from the coil to the distributor.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">You might also want to try disconnecting the black and white wire at the coil from the battery master switch - if it’s failing you’ll get weird symptoms like this. If that wire is disconnected the car should run no problem. I don’t recall
if that wire is separate from the distributor wire, if it isn’t you’ll have to disconnect it from underneath the master switch itself.<u></u><u></u></p>
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</div></div><div id="ymsg92844" class="ymsg7529170944" src="mid://AMYZP5FwnNWIYzdA7gvi-NXvfoY/3.7"><div id="yiv4626836949"><div dir="ltr"><div style="color:#3333ff;" class="yiv4626836949gmail_default">Michael--</div><div style="color:#3333ff;" class="yiv4626836949gmail_default"><br></div><div style="color:#3333ff;" class="yiv4626836949gmail_default">You have to remember that when talking about problems with a Healey the unlikely sometimes becomes probable. If you haven't already done so I would suggest that you drain and flush the tank either in situ or out of the car. </div></div><br><div class="yiv4626836949gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="yiv4626836949gmail_attr">On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 10:02 PM Michael Salter <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto="mailto:michaelsalter@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:michaelsalter@gmail.com">michaelsalter@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;" class="yiv4626836949gmail_quote"><div>BUT ... the fact that full throttle and climbing a slope with no change in the amount of misfiring tends to negate fuel blockage as a cause. <div>I'm starting to think that the refueling situation is something of a "red herring" although it certainly is an odd one.</div></div><br><div class="yiv4626836949gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="yiv4626836949gmail_attr">On Thu., Sep. 29, 2022, 9:23 p.m. Alan Seigrist, <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto="mailto:healey.nut@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:healey.nut@gmail.com">healey.nut@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;" class="yiv4626836949gmail_quote"><div>Good point. I had a very similar experience when I had mistakenly used high heat silicone to seal the fuel tank sender, and I didn’t know that fuel caused flakes of it to fall off and plug the pickup intermittently.</div><div><br><div class="yiv4626836949gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="yiv4626836949gmail_attr">On Fri, 30 Sep 2022 at 4:38 AM, Michael Oritt <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto="mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com">michael.oritt@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;" class="yiv4626836949gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr"><div style="color:rgb(51,51,255);" class="yiv4626836949gmail_default">I had a similar miss that was caused by a leaf that had gotten into the tank. It would be pulled against the pickup by fuel flow and cause the engine to lose power on all cylinders, as opposed to a miss. When I either got off the gas pedal or shut the engine down the leaf would apparently fall away from the pickup and everything would be fine until the leaf was once again pulled against the pickup, etc. etc. </div><div style="color:rgb(51,51,255);" class="yiv4626836949gmail_default"><br></div><div style="color:rgb(51,51,255);" class="yiv4626836949gmail_default">I empirically came up with this theory after I pulled the fuel sender, searched around in the tank with a flashlight and found the leaf, and after I removed it the miss went away. How the leaf got into the tank when the fuel filler is inside the boot is a larger issue I never figured out.</div><div style="color:rgb(51,51,255);" class="yiv4626836949gmail_default"><br></div><div style="color:rgb(51,51,255);" class="yiv4626836949gmail_default">Best--Michael Oritt</div><div style="color:rgb(51,51,255);" class="yiv4626836949gmail_default"><br></div></div><br><div class="yiv4626836949gmail_quote"></div><div class="yiv4626836949gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="yiv4626836949gmail_attr">On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 11:01 AM Don Anglesey via Healeys <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<br></div></div><div class="yiv4626836949gmail_quote"><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;" class="yiv4626836949gmail_quote"><div></div></blockquote></div><div class="yiv4626836949gmail_quote"><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;" class="yiv4626836949gmail_quote"><div>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">I suspect that when the tank is filled any sediment or debris around the tank intake is redistributed thru the fuel then it settles again. Classic sign of bad fuel filter or sediment in tank.</p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Thanks to all who have obviously given this misfire issue considerable thought. I will be sure to check all suggestions. <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">I should like to point out however that it is the immediate vanishing of the misfire after filling the fuel tank that has me confused. <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">This has happened three times simce the problem appeared.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">I just don't understand how an ignition problem could change as a result of filling the tank.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Furthermore I'm convinced that this is not a fuel starvation problem because the amount of engine power being used has no effect.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Totally baffled.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Thanks again to all ... I'll report back.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Yes, that was the point I was trying to make, sorry if it fell through bad interpretation! As Ed McMahon used to say, "You Are Correct Sir!"<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Cheers,<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 7:53 PM john harper <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto="mailto:ah100tech@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:ah100tech@gmail.com">ah100tech@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Coils can fail with heat and then recover when cooled. I had one that had these symptoms and when looking closely I saw that the insulating oil had run out through a very small crack in the bottom of the case.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">On Thu, 29 Sept 2022 at 10:34, Alan Seigrist <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto="mailto:healey.nut@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:healey.nut@gmail.com">healey.nut@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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Just as a follow up to my email since the symptoms seem to manifest themself ... <u></u><u></u></p>
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whether the car is warmed up or not - this typically will exclude anything related to fuel or the coil<u></u><u></u></li><li class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">
whether the car is under load or not - this typically will exclude anything related to fuel<u></u><u></u></li><li class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">
whether the choke is pulled or not - this typically will exclude anything related to fuel<u></u><u></u></li><li class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">
somewhat intermittent but systematically under all conditions - suggests to me wiring / ground issues<u></u><u></u></li></ul>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Given this I'd check (as a priority):<u></u><u></u></p>
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primary ignition wire (white) from the switch to coil (cycle the connections)<u></u><u></u></li><li class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">
motor ground straps (cycle the connections)<u></u><u></u></li><li class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">
loose wires in the dizzy<u></u><u></u></li><li class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">
loose ignition wires into the dizzy or spark plug<u></u><u></u></li></ul>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Other things to possibly do (as secondary):<u></u><u></u></p>
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replace rotor<u></u><u></u></li><li class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">I don't think it would be contacts or condensor simply because this would either be very regular all the time, or maybe sensitive to temp.<br>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 4:46 PM Bob Spidell <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto="mailto:bspidell@comcast.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:bspidell@comcast.net">bspidell@comcast.net</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p style="margin-bottom:12pt;" class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">re: "... I don’t recall if that wire is separate from the distributor wire ..."<br>
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It is (or should be). If the battery switch is in the 'OFF' position it grounds the coil primary so no spark.<br>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">On 9/28/2022 8:34 PM, Alan Seigrist wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Have you tried cycling the connections on the white wire from the ignition switch to the coil, and also from the coil to the distributor.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">You might also want to try disconnecting the black and white wire at the coil from the battery master switch - if it’s failing you’ll get weird symptoms like this. If that wire is disconnected the car should run no problem. I don’t recall
if that wire is separate from the distributor wire, if it isn’t you’ll have to disconnect it from underneath the master switch itself.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<div id="yiv4626836949divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><b>From:</b> Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of Michael Salter <michaelsalter@gmail.com><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 30, 2022 2:01 AM<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Austin Healey 100 Misfire Diagnosis.
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<div>BUT ... the fact that full throttle and climbing a slope with no change in the amount of misfiring tends to negate fuel blockage as a cause.
<div>I'm starting to think that the refueling situation is something of a "red herring" although it certainly is an odd one.</div>
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<div>Good point. I had a very similar experience when I had mistakenly used high heat silicone to seal the fuel tank sender, and I didn’t know that fuel caused flakes of it to fall off and plug the pickup intermittently.</div>
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<div style="color:#3333ff;" class="yiv4626836949x_gmail_default">I had a similar miss that was caused by a leaf that had gotten into the tank. It would be pulled against the pickup by fuel flow and cause the engine to lose power on all cylinders, as opposed to a miss.
When I either got off the gas pedal or shut the engine down the leaf would apparently fall away from the pickup and everything would be fine until the leaf was once again pulled against the pickup, etc. etc. </div>
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<div style="color:#3333ff;" class="yiv4626836949x_gmail_default">I empirically came up with this theory after I pulled the fuel sender, searched around in the tank with a flashlight and found the leaf, and after I removed it the miss went away. How the leaf got into the
tank when the fuel filler is inside the boot is a larger issue I never figured out.</div>
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<div style="color:#3333ff;" class="yiv4626836949x_gmail_default">Best--Michael Oritt</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="yiv4626836949x_gmail_attr">On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 11:01 AM Don Anglesey via Healeys <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<br>
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<p class="yiv4626836949x_MsoNormal">I suspect that when the tank is filled any sediment or debris around the tank intake is redistributed thru the fuel then it settles again. Classic sign of bad fuel filter or sediment in tank.</p>
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<b>To: </b><a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto="mailto:healey.nut@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:healey.nut@gmail.com">Alan Seigrist</a><br>
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<p class="yiv4626836949x_MsoNormal">Thanks to all who have obviously given this misfire issue considerable thought. I will be sure to check all suggestions. <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949x_MsoNormal">I should like to point out however that it is the immediate vanishing of the misfire after filling the fuel tank that has me confused. <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949x_MsoNormal">This has happened three times simce the problem appeared.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949x_MsoNormal">I just don't understand how an ignition problem could change as a result of filling the tank.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949x_MsoNormal">Furthermore I'm convinced that this is not a fuel starvation problem because the amount of engine power being used has no effect.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949x_MsoNormal">Totally baffled.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949x_MsoNormal">Thanks again to all ... I'll report back.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949x_MsoNormal">Hi John -<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949x_MsoNormal">Yes, that was the point I was trying to make, sorry if it fell through bad interpretation! As Ed McMahon used to say, "You Are Correct Sir!"<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949x_MsoNormal">Cheers,<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949x_MsoNormal">Alan<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949x_MsoNormal">On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 7:53 PM john harper <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto="mailto:ah100tech@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:ah100tech@gmail.com">ah100tech@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949x_MsoNormal">Coils can fail with heat and then recover when cooled. I had one that had these symptoms and when looking closely I saw that the insulating oil had run out through a very small crack in the bottom of the case.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949x_MsoNormal">On Thu, 29 Sept 2022 at 10:34, Alan Seigrist <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto="mailto:healey.nut@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:healey.nut@gmail.com">healey.nut@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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Just as a follow up to my email since the symptoms seem to manifest themself ... <u></u><u></u></p>
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<li class="yiv4626836949x_MsoNormal">whether the car is warmed up or not - this typically will exclude anything related to fuel or the coil<u></u><u></u></li><li class="yiv4626836949x_MsoNormal">whether the car is under load or not - this typically will exclude anything related to fuel<u></u><u></u></li><li class="yiv4626836949x_MsoNormal">whether the choke is pulled or not - this typically will exclude anything related to fuel<u></u><u></u></li><li class="yiv4626836949x_MsoNormal">somewhat intermittent but systematically under all conditions - suggests to me wiring / ground issues<u></u><u></u></li></ul>
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<p class="yiv4626836949x_MsoNormal">Given this I'd check (as a priority):<u></u><u></u></p>
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<li class="yiv4626836949x_MsoNormal">Battery Master (when these fail they will ground the coil)<u></u><u></u></li><li class="yiv4626836949x_MsoNormal">primary ignition wire (white) from the switch to coil (cycle the connections)<u></u><u></u></li><li class="yiv4626836949x_MsoNormal">motor ground straps (cycle the connections)<u></u><u></u></li><li class="yiv4626836949x_MsoNormal">loose wires in the dizzy<u></u><u></u></li><li class="yiv4626836949x_MsoNormal">loose ignition wires into the dizzy or spark plug<u></u><u></u></li></ul>
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<p class="yiv4626836949x_MsoNormal">Other things to possibly do (as secondary):<u></u><u></u></p>
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<li class="yiv4626836949x_MsoNormal">replace rotor<u></u><u></u></li><li class="yiv4626836949x_MsoNormal">replace dizzy cap<u></u><u></u></li></ul>
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<p class="yiv4626836949x_MsoNormal">I don't think it would be contacts or condensor simply because this would either be very regular all the time, or maybe sensitive to temp.<br>
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<p class="yiv4626836949x_MsoNormal">On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 4:46 PM Bob Spidell <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto="mailto:bspidell@comcast.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:bspidell@comcast.net">bspidell@comcast.net</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p style="margin-bottom:12pt;" class="yiv4626836949x_MsoNormal">re: "... I don’t recall if that wire is separate from the distributor wire ..."<br>
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It is (or should be). If the battery switch is in the 'OFF' position it grounds the coil primary so no spark.<br>
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<p class="yiv4626836949x_MsoNormal">On 9/28/2022 8:34 PM, Alan Seigrist wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949x_MsoNormal">Have you tried cycling the connections on the white wire from the ignition switch to the coil, and also from the coil to the distributor.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949x_MsoNormal">You might also want to try disconnecting the black and white wire at the coil from the battery master switch - if it’s failing you’ll get weird symptoms like this. If that wire is disconnected the car should run no problem. I don’t
recall if that wire is separate from the distributor wire, if it isn’t you’ll have to disconnect it from underneath the master switch itself.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949x_MsoNormal">Best,<u></u><u></u></p>
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</div></div><div id="ymsg50532" class="ymsg7529170944" src="mid://AMYZP5FwnNWIYzdA7gvi-NXvfoY/3.9"><div id="yiv4626836949"><div dir="ltr">If the bits are floating around in the tank sometimes they are away from the pick up, other times they are stuck on the pickup. It acts like a little flapper valve that can float loose from time to time, and finds its way back to the pickup as fuel is being drawn to the engine. Good to use an endoscope and check the tank. <br><br>I'm still leaning toward bad battery master or bad wire connection somewhere. Also if lights are dim, clean the battery contacts.</div><br><div class="yiv4626836949gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="yiv4626836949gmail_attr">On Fri, Sep 30, 2022 at 10:02 AM Michael Salter <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto="mailto:michaelsalter@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:michaelsalter@gmail.com">michaelsalter@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;" class="yiv4626836949gmail_quote"><div>BUT ... the fact that full throttle and climbing a slope with no change in the amount of misfiring tends to negate fuel blockage as a cause. <div>I'm starting to think that the refueling situation is something of a "red herring" although it certainly is an odd one.</div></div><br><div class="yiv4626836949gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="yiv4626836949gmail_attr">On Thu., Sep. 29, 2022, 9:23 p.m. Alan Seigrist, <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto="mailto:healey.nut@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:healey.nut@gmail.com">healey.nut@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;" class="yiv4626836949gmail_quote"><div>Good point. I had a very similar experience when I had mistakenly used high heat silicone to seal the fuel tank sender, and I didn’t know that fuel caused flakes of it to fall off and plug the pickup intermittently.</div><div><br><div class="yiv4626836949gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="yiv4626836949gmail_attr">On Fri, 30 Sep 2022 at 4:38 AM, Michael Oritt <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto="mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com">michael.oritt@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;" class="yiv4626836949gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr"><div style="color:rgb(51,51,255);" class="yiv4626836949gmail_default">I had a similar miss that was caused by a leaf that had gotten into the tank. It would be pulled against the pickup by fuel flow and cause the engine to lose power on all cylinders, as opposed to a miss. When I either got off the gas pedal or shut the engine down the leaf would apparently fall away from the pickup and everything would be fine until the leaf was once again pulled against the pickup, etc. etc. </div><div style="color:rgb(51,51,255);" class="yiv4626836949gmail_default"><br></div><div style="color:rgb(51,51,255);" class="yiv4626836949gmail_default">I empirically came up with this theory after I pulled the fuel sender, searched around in the tank with a flashlight and found the leaf, and after I removed it the miss went away. How the leaf got into the tank when the fuel filler is inside the boot is a larger issue I never figured out.</div><div style="color:rgb(51,51,255);" class="yiv4626836949gmail_default"><br></div><div style="color:rgb(51,51,255);" class="yiv4626836949gmail_default">Best--Michael Oritt</div><div style="color:rgb(51,51,255);" class="yiv4626836949gmail_default"><br></div></div><br><div class="yiv4626836949gmail_quote"></div><div class="yiv4626836949gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="yiv4626836949gmail_attr">On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 11:01 AM Don Anglesey via Healeys <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<br></div></div><div class="yiv4626836949gmail_quote"><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;" class="yiv4626836949gmail_quote"><div></div></blockquote></div><div class="yiv4626836949gmail_quote"><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;" class="yiv4626836949gmail_quote"><div>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">I suspect that when the tank is filled any sediment or debris around the tank intake is redistributed thru the fuel then it settles again. Classic sign of bad fuel filter or sediment in tank.</p>
<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Don</p>
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<p style="border:none;padding:0in;" class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><b>From: </b><a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto="mailto:michaelsalter@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:michaelsalter@gmail.com">Michael Salter</a><br>
<b>Sent: </b>Thursday, September 29, 2022 8:10 AM<br>
<b>To: </b><a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto="mailto:healey.nut@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:healey.nut@gmail.com">Alan Seigrist</a><br>
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<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Healeys] Austin Healey 100 Misfire Diagnosis.</p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Thanks to all who have obviously given this misfire issue considerable thought. I will be sure to check all suggestions. <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">I should like to point out however that it is the immediate vanishing of the misfire after filling the fuel tank that has me confused. <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">This has happened three times simce the problem appeared.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">I just don't understand how an ignition problem could change as a result of filling the tank.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Furthermore I'm convinced that this is not a fuel starvation problem because the amount of engine power being used has no effect.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Totally baffled.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Thanks again to all ... I'll report back.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">On Thu., Sep. 29, 2022, 9:14 a.m. Alan Seigrist via Healeys, <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Hi John -<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Yes, that was the point I was trying to make, sorry if it fell through bad interpretation! As Ed McMahon used to say, "You Are Correct Sir!"<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Cheers,<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Alan<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 7:53 PM john harper <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto="mailto:ah100tech@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:ah100tech@gmail.com">ah100tech@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Coils can fail with heat and then recover when cooled. I had one that had these symptoms and when looking closely I saw that the insulating oil had run out through a very small crack in the bottom of the case.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">On Thu, 29 Sept 2022 at 10:34, Alan Seigrist <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto="mailto:healey.nut@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:healey.nut@gmail.com">healey.nut@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Michael -<br>
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Just as a follow up to my email since the symptoms seem to manifest themself ... <u></u><u></u></p>
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whether the car is warmed up or not - this typically will exclude anything related to fuel or the coil<u></u><u></u></li><li class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">
whether the car is under load or not - this typically will exclude anything related to fuel<u></u><u></u></li><li class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">
whether the choke is pulled or not - this typically will exclude anything related to fuel<u></u><u></u></li><li class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">
somewhat intermittent but systematically under all conditions - suggests to me wiring / ground issues<u></u><u></u></li></ul>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Given this I'd check (as a priority):<u></u><u></u></p>
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Battery Master (when these fail they will ground the coil)<u></u><u></u></li><li class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">
primary ignition wire (white) from the switch to coil (cycle the connections)<u></u><u></u></li><li class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">
motor ground straps (cycle the connections)<u></u><u></u></li><li class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">
loose wires in the dizzy<u></u><u></u></li><li class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">
loose ignition wires into the dizzy or spark plug<u></u><u></u></li></ul>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Other things to possibly do (as secondary):<u></u><u></u></p>
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replace rotor<u></u><u></u></li><li class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">
replace dizzy cap<u></u><u></u></li></ul>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">I don't think it would be contacts or condensor simply because this would either be very regular all the time, or maybe sensitive to temp.<br>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 4:46 PM Bob Spidell <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto="mailto:bspidell@comcast.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:bspidell@comcast.net">bspidell@comcast.net</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p style="margin-bottom:12pt;" class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">re: "... I don’t recall if that wire is separate from the distributor wire ..."<br>
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It is (or should be). If the battery switch is in the 'OFF' position it grounds the coil primary so no spark.<br>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">On 9/28/2022 8:34 PM, Alan Seigrist wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Have you tried cycling the connections on the white wire from the ignition switch to the coil, and also from the coil to the distributor.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">You might also want to try disconnecting the black and white wire at the coil from the battery master switch - if it’s failing you’ll get weird symptoms like this. If that wire is disconnected the car should run no problem. I don’t recall
if that wire is separate from the distributor wire, if it isn’t you’ll have to disconnect it from underneath the master switch itself.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Best,<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Alan<u></u><u></u></p>
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</div></div><div id="ymsg79326" class="ymsg7529170944" src="mid://AMYZP5FwnNWIYzdA7gvi-NXvfoY/3.10"><div id="yiv4626836949"><div>So what is unique to a fuel stop besides the fuel? Adding weight to the boot area, opening the boot lid, removing the filler cap. What else?<div><br></div><div>An unvented filler cap could restrict fuel flow. Extra weight and even opening the boot lid could shift some recalcitrant ground or other connection or loose shorted wire. Maybe even at the battery switch. </div><div>-Roland</div></div><br><div class="yiv4626836949gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="yiv4626836949gmail_attr">On Thu, Sep 29, 2022, 8:12 PM Michael Salter <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto="mailto:michaelsalter@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:michaelsalter@gmail.com">michaelsalter@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;" class="yiv4626836949gmail_quote"><div>BUT ... the fact that full throttle and climbing a slope with no change in the amount of misfiring tends to negate fuel blockage as a cause. <div>I'm starting to think that the refueling situation is something of a "red herring" although it certainly is an odd one.</div></div><br><div class="yiv4626836949gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="yiv4626836949gmail_attr">On Thu., Sep. 29, 2022, 9:23 p.m. Alan Seigrist, <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto="mailto:healey.nut@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:healey.nut@gmail.com">healey.nut@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;" class="yiv4626836949gmail_quote"><div>Good point. I had a very similar experience when I had mistakenly used high heat silicone to seal the fuel tank sender, and I didn’t know that fuel caused flakes of it to fall off and plug the pickup intermittently.</div><div><br><div class="yiv4626836949gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="yiv4626836949gmail_attr">On Fri, 30 Sep 2022 at 4:38 AM, Michael Oritt <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto="mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com">michael.oritt@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;" class="yiv4626836949gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr"><div style="color:#3333ff;" class="yiv4626836949gmail_default">I had a similar miss that was caused by a leaf that had gotten into the tank. It would be pulled against the pickup by fuel flow and cause the engine to lose power on all cylinders, as opposed to a miss. When I either got off the gas pedal or shut the engine down the leaf would apparently fall away from the pickup and everything would be fine until the leaf was once again pulled against the pickup, etc. etc. </div><div style="color:#3333ff;" class="yiv4626836949gmail_default"><br></div><div style="color:#3333ff;" class="yiv4626836949gmail_default">I empirically came up with this theory after I pulled the fuel sender, searched around in the tank with a flashlight and found the leaf, and after I removed it the miss went away. How the leaf got into the tank when the fuel filler is inside the boot is a larger issue I never figured out.</div><div style="color:#3333ff;" class="yiv4626836949gmail_default"><br></div><div style="color:#3333ff;" class="yiv4626836949gmail_default">Best--Michael Oritt</div><div style="color:#3333ff;" class="yiv4626836949gmail_default"><br></div></div><br><div class="yiv4626836949gmail_quote"></div><div class="yiv4626836949gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="yiv4626836949gmail_attr">On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 11:01 AM Don Anglesey via Healeys <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<br></div></div><div class="yiv4626836949gmail_quote"><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;" class="yiv4626836949gmail_quote"><div></div></blockquote></div><div class="yiv4626836949gmail_quote"><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;" class="yiv4626836949gmail_quote"><div>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">I suspect that when the tank is filled any sediment or debris around the tank intake is redistributed thru the fuel then it settles again. Classic sign of bad fuel filter or sediment in tank.</p>
<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Don</p>
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<p style="border:none;padding:0in;" class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><b>From: </b><a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto="mailto:michaelsalter@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:michaelsalter@gmail.com">Michael Salter</a><br>
<b>Sent: </b>Thursday, September 29, 2022 8:10 AM<br>
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<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Healeys] Austin Healey 100 Misfire Diagnosis.</p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Thanks to all who have obviously given this misfire issue considerable thought. I will be sure to check all suggestions. <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">I should like to point out however that it is the immediate vanishing of the misfire after filling the fuel tank that has me confused. <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">This has happened three times simce the problem appeared.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">I just don't understand how an ignition problem could change as a result of filling the tank.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Furthermore I'm convinced that this is not a fuel starvation problem because the amount of engine power being used has no effect.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Totally baffled.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Thanks again to all ... I'll report back.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">On Thu., Sep. 29, 2022, 9:14 a.m. Alan Seigrist via Healeys, <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Hi John -<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Yes, that was the point I was trying to make, sorry if it fell through bad interpretation! As Ed McMahon used to say, "You Are Correct Sir!"<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Cheers,<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Alan<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 7:53 PM john harper <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto="mailto:ah100tech@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:ah100tech@gmail.com">ah100tech@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Coils can fail with heat and then recover when cooled. I had one that had these symptoms and when looking closely I saw that the insulating oil had run out through a very small crack in the bottom of the case.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">On Thu, 29 Sept 2022 at 10:34, Alan Seigrist <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto="mailto:healey.nut@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:healey.nut@gmail.com">healey.nut@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Michael -<br>
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Just as a follow up to my email since the symptoms seem to manifest themself ... <u></u><u></u></p>
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whether the car is warmed up or not - this typically will exclude anything related to fuel or the coil<u></u><u></u></li><li class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">
whether the car is under load or not - this typically will exclude anything related to fuel<u></u><u></u></li><li class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">
whether the choke is pulled or not - this typically will exclude anything related to fuel<u></u><u></u></li><li class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">
somewhat intermittent but systematically under all conditions - suggests to me wiring / ground issues<u></u><u></u></li></ul>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Given this I'd check (as a priority):<u></u><u></u></p>
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Battery Master (when these fail they will ground the coil)<u></u><u></u></li><li class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">
primary ignition wire (white) from the switch to coil (cycle the connections)<u></u><u></u></li><li class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">
motor ground straps (cycle the connections)<u></u><u></u></li><li class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">
loose wires in the dizzy<u></u><u></u></li><li class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">
loose ignition wires into the dizzy or spark plug<u></u><u></u></li></ul>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Other things to possibly do (as secondary):<u></u><u></u></p>
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replace rotor<u></u><u></u></li><li class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">
replace dizzy cap<u></u><u></u></li></ul>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">I don't think it would be contacts or condensor simply because this would either be very regular all the time, or maybe sensitive to temp.<br>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 4:46 PM Bob Spidell <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto="mailto:bspidell@comcast.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:bspidell@comcast.net">bspidell@comcast.net</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p style="margin-bottom:12pt;" class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">re: "... I don’t recall if that wire is separate from the distributor wire ..."<br>
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It is (or should be). If the battery switch is in the 'OFF' position it grounds the coil primary so no spark.<br>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">On 9/28/2022 8:34 PM, Alan Seigrist wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Have you tried cycling the connections on the white wire from the ignition switch to the coil, and also from the coil to the distributor.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">You might also want to try disconnecting the black and white wire at the coil from the battery master switch - if it’s failing you’ll get weird symptoms like this. If that wire is disconnected the car should run no problem. I don’t recall
if that wire is separate from the distributor wire, if it isn’t you’ll have to disconnect it from underneath the master switch itself.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Best,<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Alan<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p style="margin:0px;"><span style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:#000000;text-decoration:none;">I still suspect the master switch, or the white/black wire to it.</span></p>
<p style="margin:0px;"><span style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:#000000;text-decoration:none;">To check this, just take the white/black wire off the distributer and coil. And instead make a temporary connection (wire) from coil to distributer. And now make a test drive.</span></p>
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<p style="border:none;padding:0in;" class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><strong>From: </strong><a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto="mailto:michaelsalter@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:michaelsalter@gmail.com">Michael Salter</a><br><strong>Sent: </strong>Thursday, September 29, 2022 8:10 AM<br><strong>To: </strong><a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto="mailto:healey.nut@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:healey.nut@gmail.com">Alan Seigrist</a><br><strong>Cc: </strong><a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net">Healey list</a><br><strong>Subject: </strong>Re: [Healeys] Austin Healey 100 Misfire Diagnosis.</p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Thanks to all who have obviously given this misfire issue considerable thought. I will be sure to check all suggestions. <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">I should like to point out however that it is the immediate vanishing of the misfire after filling the fuel tank that has me confused. <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">This has happened three times simce the problem appeared.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">I just don't understand how an ignition problem could change as a result of filling the tank.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Furthermore I'm convinced that this is not a fuel starvation problem because the amount of engine power being used has no effect.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Totally baffled.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Thanks again to all ... I'll report back.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">On Thu., Sep. 29, 2022, 9:14 a.m. Alan Seigrist via Healeys, <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Yes, that was the point I was trying to make, sorry if it fell through bad interpretation! As Ed McMahon used to say, "You Are Correct Sir!"<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Cheers,<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 7:53 PM john harper <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto="mailto:ah100tech@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:ah100tech@gmail.com">ah100tech@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Coils can fail with heat and then recover when cooled. I had one that had these symptoms and when looking closely I saw that the insulating oil had run out through a very small crack in the bottom of the case.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">On Thu, 29 Sept 2022 at 10:34, Alan Seigrist <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto="mailto:healey.nut@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:healey.nut@gmail.com">healey.nut@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Michael -<br><br>Just as a follow up to my email since the symptoms seem to manifest themself ... <u></u><u></u></p>
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<li class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">whether the car is warmed up or not - this typically will exclude anything related to fuel or the coil<u></u><u></u></li>
<li class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">whether the car is under load or not - this typically will exclude anything related to fuel<u></u><u></u></li>
<li class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">whether the choke is pulled or not - this typically will exclude anything related to fuel<u></u><u></u></li>
<li class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">somewhat intermittent but systematically under all conditions - suggests to me wiring / ground issues<u></u><u></u></li>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Given this I'd check (as a priority):<u></u><u></u></p>
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<li class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">primary ignition wire (white) from the switch to coil (cycle the connections)<u></u><u></u></li>
<li class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">motor ground straps (cycle the connections)<u></u><u></u></li>
<li class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">loose wires in the dizzy<u></u><u></u></li>
<li class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">loose ignition wires into the dizzy or spark plug<u></u><u></u></li>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Other things to possibly do (as secondary):<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">I don't think it would be contacts or condensor simply because this would either be very regular all the time, or maybe sensitive to temp.<br><br>Best,<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 4:46 PM Bob Spidell <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto="mailto:bspidell@comcast.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:bspidell@comcast.net">bspidell@comcast.net</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p style="margin-bottom:12pt;" class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">re: "... I don’t recall if that wire is separate from the distributor wire ..."<br><br>It is (or should be). If the battery switch is in the 'OFF' position it grounds the coil primary so no spark.<br><br><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Have you tried cycling the connections on the white wire from the ignition switch to the coil, and also from the coil to the distributor.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">You might also want to try disconnecting the black and white wire at the coil from the battery master switch - if it’s failing you’ll get weird symptoms like this. If that wire is disconnected the car should run no problem. I don’t recall if that wire is separate from the distributor wire, if it isn’t you’ll have to disconnect it from underneath the master switch itself.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Best,<u></u><u></u></p>
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Can’t remember!</span></p><p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span style="">Simon</span></p><p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span style=""> </span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm;"><p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> Mark Donaldson <ardmorebusiness@xtra.co.nz> <br><b>Sent:</b> 30 September 2022 10:37<br><b>To:</b> simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com; warthodson@aol.com<br><b>Cc:</b> 'Healeys' <healeys@autox.team.net><br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [Healeys] ignition warning light</span></p></div></div><p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal"> </p><p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-NZ" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma", sans-serif;color:#1F497D;">Gary, and Simon,</span></p><p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-NZ" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma", sans-serif;color:#1F497D;">I bought some last year for my BN2 and tri-carb. They are 12v LEDs in GREEN. I can now easily see the direction indicator light in daylight.</span></p><p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-NZ" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma", sans-serif;color:#1F497D;">Make sure your LED is green, and not white, as the light intensity tends to bleach out the green of the plastic case.</span></p><p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-NZ" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma", sans-serif;color:#1F497D;">Cost me NZ $7 That’s ‘peanuts’ in any currency.</span></p><p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-NZ" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma", sans-serif;color:#1F497D;">My next job is to fit an audible alarm so that I can hear when the indicator is on. Ditto for leaving my lights on.</span></p><p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-NZ" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma", sans-serif;color:#1F497D;"> </span></p><p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-NZ" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma", sans-serif;color:#1F497D;">Mark</span></p><p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-NZ" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma", sans-serif;color:#1F497D;">Ardmore, NZ</span></p><p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-NZ" style="color:#1F497D;"> </span></p><p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-NZ" style="color:#1F497D;"><img width="434" height="428" style="width:4.5208in;min-height:4.4583in;" id="yiv4626836949Picture_x0020_1" src="cid:LuPYuIUTQWwIkG7ZEHsK" yahoo_partid="3.13.2"></span></p><p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-NZ" style="color:#1F497D;"> </span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm;"><p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> <a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto="mailto:simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com">simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com</a> <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto="mailto:simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com">simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com</a>> <br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, 30 September 2022 5:31 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto="mailto:warthodson@aol.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:warthodson@aol.com">warthodson@aol.com</a><br><b>Cc:</b> 'Healeys' <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] ignition warning light</span></p></div></div><p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-NZ"> </span></p><p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span style="">Pretty sure that you can’t use LED.</span></p><p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span style="">Mine was dim too but I found that to be function of the lens in the dial which, in my case, was too thick. Maybe – as I was recently advised here – take a sheet of thin acetate and punch the appropriate size hole.</span></p><p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span style="">Simon</span></p><p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span style=""> </span></p><p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> Healeys <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto="mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net">healeys-bounces@autox.teamnet</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>warthodson--- via Healeys<br><b>Sent:</b> 29 September 2022 16:32<br><b>To:</b> <a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [Healeys] ignition warning light</span></p><p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal"> </p><div><p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black;">Is there a brighter bulb available for the ignition warning lite that will fit a stock 100 socket & be relatively easy to see if it is on or off in day light? I don't care if the bulb is LED or incandescent. </span></p><div><p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black;">Gary Hodson</span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id="ymsg38376" class="ymsg7529170944" src="mid://AMYZP5FwnNWIYzdA7gvi-NXvfoY/3.14"><div id="yiv4626836949"><style><!--
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It doesn’t need to offer a resistance, and the current drain of that little LED is tiny.</span></p><p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma", sans-serif;color:#003300;">My suggestion is – try it and see.</span></p><p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma", sans-serif;color:#003300;"> </span></p><p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma", sans-serif;color:#003300;">Cheers</span></p><p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma", sans-serif;color:#003300;">Mark</span></p><p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span style="color:#993366;"> </span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm;"><p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com <simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com> <br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, 30 September 2022 11:18 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'Mark Donaldson' <ardmorebusiness@xtra.co.nz>; warthodson@aol.com<br><b>Cc:</b> 'Healeys' <healeys@autox.team.net><br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [Healeys] ignition warning light</span></p></div></div><p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal"> </p><p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="">Sounds like a plan to me. Still – to revert to the original question – not sure about using an LED in the ignition warning light. Maybe with a generator, but not with an alternator. Can’t remember!</span></p><p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="">Simon</span></p><p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style=""> </span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm;"><p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> Mark Donaldson <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto="mailto:ardmorebusiness@xtra.co.nz" target="_blank" href="mailto:ardmorebusiness@xtra.co.nz">ardmorebusiness@xtra.co.nz</a>> <br><b>Sent:</b> 30 September 2022 10:37<br><b>To:</b> <a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto="mailto:simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com">simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com</a>; <a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto="mailto:warthodson@aol.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:warthodson@aol.com">warthodson@aol.com</a><br><b>Cc:</b> 'Healeys' <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [Healeys] ignition warning light</span></p></div></div><p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"> </span></p><p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma", sans-serif;color:#1F497D;">Gary, and Simon,</span></p><p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma", sans-serif;color:#1F497D;">I bought some last year for my BN2 and tri-carb. They are 12v LEDs in GREEN. I can now easily see the direction indicator light in daylight.</span></p><p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma", sans-serif;color:#1F497D;">Make sure your LED is green, and not white, as the light intensity tends to bleach out the green of the plastic case.</span></p><p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma", sans-serif;color:#1F497D;">Cost me NZ $7 That’s ‘peanuts’ in any currency.</span></p><p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma", sans-serif;color:#1F497D;">My next job is to fit an audible alarm so that I can hear when the indicator is on. Ditto for leaving my lights on.</span></p><p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma", sans-serif;color:#1F497D;"> </span></p><p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma", sans-serif;color:#1F497D;">Mark</span></p><p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma", sans-serif;color:#1F497D;">Ardmore, NZ</span></p><p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D;"> </span></p><p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D;"><img border="0" width="434" height="428" style="width:4.525in;min-height:4.4583in;" id="yiv4626836949Picture_x0020_1" src="cid:fSxgvCWTx8vluWECy1ye" yahoo_partid="3.14.2"></span><span style="color:#1F497D;"></span></p><p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D;"> </span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm;"><p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> <a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto="mailto:simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com">simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com</a> <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto="mailto:simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com">simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com</a>> <br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, 30 September 2022 5:31 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto="mailto:warthodson@aol.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:warthodson@aol.com">warthodson@aol.com</a><br><b>Cc:</b> 'Healeys' <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] ignition warning light</span></p></div></div><p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal"> </p><p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="">Pretty sure that you can’t use LED.</span></p><p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="">Mine was dim too but I found that to be function of the lens in the dial which, in my case, was too thick. Maybe – as I was recently advised here – take a sheet of thin acetate and punch the appropriate size hole.</span></p><p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="">Simon</span></p><p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style=""> </span></p><p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> Healeys <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto="mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net">healeys-bounces@autox.teamnet</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>warthodson--- via Healeys<br><b>Sent:</b> 29 September 2022 16:32<br><b>To:</b> <a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [Healeys] ignition warning light</span></p><p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"> </span></p><div><p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black;">Is there a brighter bulb available for the ignition warning lite that will fit a stock 100 socket & be relatively easy to see if it is on or off in day light? I don't care if the bulb is LED or incandescent. </span></p><div><p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black;">Gary Hodson</span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id="ymsg06433" class="ymsg7529170944" src="mid://AMYZP5FwnNWIYzdA7gvi-NXvfoY/3.15"><div id="yiv4626836949"><style><!--
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--></style><div><div class="yiv4626836949WordSection1"><p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span style="">It is, I think, all to do with how LEDs work. I’m not an expert but I refer you to someone who is:-</span></p><p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" href="https://mgaguru.com/mgtech/electric/et120a.htm"><span style="color:blue;">IGNITION WARNING LAMP - What It Does And Doesn't Do (mgaguru.com)</span></a></p><p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span style="">Of course, I’ve never tried it so can’t be sure either way!</span></p><p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span style="">I seem to recall that our usual bulbs come in different degrees of brightness depending on their originally intended application. I think that I used to get mine from a motorbike place….</span></p><p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span style="">Simon</span></p><p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span style=""> </span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm;"><p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> Mark Donaldson <ardmorebusiness@xtra.co.nz> <br><b>Sent:</b> 30 September 2022 11:28<br><b>To:</b> simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com; warthodson@aol.com<br><b>Cc:</b> 'Healeys' <healeys@autox.team.net><br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [Healeys] ignition warning light</span></p></div></div><p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal"> </p><p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-NZ" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma", sans-serif;color:#003300;">Simon,</span></p><p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-NZ" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma", sans-serif;color:#003300;">I don’t believe whether a charging system is generator or alternator makes any difference. </span></p><p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-NZ" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma", sans-serif;color:#003300;">The light is there only as a ‘tell tale’. It doesn’t need to offer a resistance, and the current drain of that little LED is tiny.</span></p><p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-NZ" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma", sans-serif;color:#003300;">My suggestion is – try it and see.</span></p><p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-NZ" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma", sans-serif;color:#003300;"> </span></p><p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-NZ" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma", sans-serif;color:#003300;">Cheers</span></p><p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-NZ" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma", sans-serif;color:#003300;">Mark</span></p><p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-NZ" style="color:#993366;"> </span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm;"><p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> <a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto="mailto:simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com">simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com</a> <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto="mailto:simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com">simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com</a>> <br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, 30 September 2022 11:18 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'Mark Donaldson' <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto="mailto:ardmorebusiness@xtra.co.nz" target="_blank" href="mailto:ardmorebusiness@xtra.co.nz">ardmorebusiness@xtra.co.nz</a>>; <a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto="mailto:warthodson@aol.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:warthodson@aol.com">warthodson@aol.com</a><br><b>Cc:</b> 'Healeys' <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [Healeys] ignition warning light</span></p></div></div><p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-NZ"> </span></p><p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span style="">Sounds like a plan to me. Still – to revert to the original question – not sure about using an LED in the ignition warning light. Maybe with a generator, but not with an alternator. Can’t remember!</span></p><p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span style="">Simon</span></p><p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span style=""> </span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm;"><p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> Mark Donaldson <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto="mailto:ardmorebusiness@xtra.co.nz" target="_blank" href="mailto:ardmorebusiness@xtra.co.nz">ardmorebusiness@xtra.co.nz</a>> <br><b>Sent:</b> 30 September 2022 10:37<br><b>To:</b> <a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto="mailto:simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com">simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com</a>; <a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto="mailto:warthodson@aol.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:warthodson@aol.com">warthodson@aol.com</a><br><b>Cc:</b> 'Healeys' <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [Healeys] ignition warning light</span></p></div></div><p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal"> </p><p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-NZ" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma", sans-serif;color:#1F497D;">Gary, and Simon,</span></p><p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-NZ" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma", sans-serif;color:#1F497D;">I bought some last year for my BN2 and tri-carb. They are 12v LEDs in GREEN. I can now easily see the direction indicator light in daylight.</span></p><p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-NZ" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma", sans-serif;color:#1F497D;">Make sure your LED is green, and not white, as the light intensity tends to bleach out the green of the plastic case.</span></p><p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-NZ" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma", sans-serif;color:#1F497D;">Cost me NZ $7 That’s ‘peanuts’ in any currency.</span></p><p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-NZ" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma", sans-serif;color:#1F497D;">My next job is to fit an audible alarm so that I can hear when the indicator is on. Ditto for leaving my lights on.</span></p><p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-NZ" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma", sans-serif;color:#1F497D;"> </span></p><p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-NZ" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma", sans-serif;color:#1F497D;">Mark</span></p><p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-NZ" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma", sans-serif;color:#1F497D;">Ardmore, NZ</span></p><p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-NZ" style="color:#1F497D;"> </span></p><p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-NZ" style="color:#1F497D;"><img border="0" width="434" height="428" style="width:4.5208in;min-height:4.4583in;" id="yiv4626836949Picture_x0020_1" src="cid:JVoL5GCDCC6tlNInGyMH" yahoo_partid="3.15.2"></span></p><p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-NZ" style="color:#1F497D;"> </span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm;"><p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> <a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto="mailto:simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com">simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com</a> <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto="mailto:simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com">simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com</a>> <br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, 30 September 2022 5:31 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto="mailto:warthodson@aol.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:warthodson@aol.com">warthodson@aol.com</a><br><b>Cc:</b> 'Healeys' <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] ignition warning light</span></p></div></div><p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-NZ"> </span></p><p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span style="">Pretty sure that you can’t use LED.</span></p><p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span style="">Mine was dim too but I found that to be function of the lens in the dial which, in my case, was too thick. Maybe – as I was recently advised here – take a sheet of thin acetate and punch the appropriate size hole.</span></p><p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span style="">Simon</span></p><p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span style=""> </span></p><p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> Healeys <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto="mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net">healeys-bounces@autox.teamnet</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>warthodson--- via Healeys<br><b>Sent:</b> 29 September 2022 16:32<br><b>To:</b> <a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [Healeys] ignition warning light</span></p><p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal"> </p><div><p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black;">Is there a brighter bulb available for the ignition warning lite that will fit a stock 100 socket & be relatively easy to see if it is on or off in day light? I don't care if the bulb is LED or incandescent. </span></p><div><p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black;">Gary Hodson</span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id="ymsg58133" class="ymsg7529170944" src="mid://AMYZP5FwnNWIYzdA7gvi-NXvfoY/3.16"><div id="yiv4626836949"><style><!--
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--></style><div><div class="yiv4626836949WordSection1"><p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">My understanding is that an LED is fine for a dynamo, but for an alternator the current generated by the warning light is what gets the field coils energised, and LEDs pull so little current that the field coils will not energise, and so no generation takes place.</p><p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal"> </p><p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Ian</p></div></div></div></div><div id="ymsg29145" class="ymsg7529170944" src="mid://AMYZP5FwnNWIYzdA7gvi-NXvfoY/3.17"><div id="yiv4626836949"><style><!--
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8:36 AM<br><b>To: </b><a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer">healeys@au=
tox.team.net</a><br><b>Subject: </b>[Healeys] Ignition warning light</p>
<p class="yiv46268369493DMsoNormal"> </p><p class="yiv46268369493DMsoNormal"><span>My understanding is that an LED is fine for a dynamo, but for an =
alternator the current generated by the warning light is what gets the fiel=
d coils energised, and LEDs pull so little current that the field coils wil=
l not energise, and so no generation takes place.</span></p><p><span> </span></p><p><span>Ian</span></p><p class="yiv46268369493DMsoNormal">=
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--></style><div><div class="yiv4626836949WordSection1"><p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span style="">Seems to be an alternator thing.</span></p><p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span style="">Simon</span></p><p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span style=""> </span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm;"><p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Warren Dietz via Healeys<br><b>Sent:</b> 30 September 2022 15:07<br><b>To:</b> Ian Hey <rianhey@btinternet.com>; healeys@autox.team.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Ignition warning light</span></p></div></div><p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal"> </p><p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">I have had LED instrument\<b>generator(red</b>) bulbs since 2009. </span></p><p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> Works as intended like original incandescent lamp. Lights up at low idle etc.</span></p><p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> </span></p><p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Sent from <a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" href="https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986">Mail</a> for Windows</span></p><p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> </span></p><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm;"><p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From: </span></b><span lang="EN-US"><a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net">Ian Hey via Healeys</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Friday, September 30, 2022 8:36 AM<br><b>To: </b><a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a><br><b>Subject: </b>[Healeys] Ignition warning light</span></p></div><p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> </span></p><p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">My understanding is that an LED is fine for a dynamo, but for an alternator the current generated by the warning light is what gets the field coils energised, and LEDs pull so little current that the field coils will not energise, and so no generation takes place.</p><p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal"> </p><p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Ian</p><p class="yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> </span></p></div></div></div></div><div id="ymsg13155" class="ymsg7529170944" src="mid://AMYZP5FwnNWIYzdA7gvi-NXvfoY/3.19"><div id="yiv4626836949">
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Does anyone know the type of original rivet that attaches the retainer flap (flap that attaches the curtain to the inner door panel with a tennax)? This is the rivet that goes through the steel bar sewn into the curtain material. Can't find a clear picture,
but it appears to be a similar to the rivets that attach the battery cover door straps, although silver? And is there originally a fender washer used on the inside? Not sure if there was a difference over the years, but I believe these are the third type of
curtains produced with the trim and interior access was made by an unattached material area at the bottom rear.</div>
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Thanks in advance. Shawn</div>
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