<html><body>Why bother to re-stamp-if you need some cockpit surrounds and door trim here is a whole pile that was for sale when "S replica" manufacturer went belly up. Even easier to make up an "authentic M". Hank<br><br><div class="reply-new-signature"></div><p>-----------------------------------------</p>From: "Curtis Arndt" <cnaarndt@gmail.com><br>To: "HealeyRick"<br>Cc: "Healeys"<br>Sent: Tuesday August 16 2022 10:04:23AM<br>Subject: Re: [Healeys] Counterfeit Numbers<br><br>
<div dir="ltr">Rick,
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<div>I posted about this exact subject in comment on the first 100M
made that was for sale recently on BaT.</div>
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<div>If one was willing to invest several thousands of
dollars on a new set of spot on body stamps, you'd be off to a good
start. Several of us researched having a set of body number stamps
made up, but we decided the cost $5K+ wasn't worth the effort..
Duh, we weren't making counterfeit Ms! However if you were, it
might be worth the effort and expense.</div>
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<div>Just recently, a person in Washington state was selling ALL of
the items needed for an M, e..g., original louvered bonnet,
original AUC 6040 AA or X carburetors and manifolds, original
numbered and dated distributor, etc... </div>
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<div>So with the stamps, the aforementioned parts, then find a
clapped out BN2 cheap. Then find Factory 100M numbers that
are currently not in use (scrapped years ago) and request
a heritage certificate. Rebuild the car, have it judged Concours
and get a Bill Meade certificate.</div>
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<div>Renumber the boot, bonnet and splash apron. Weld in the old
numbers on the cockpit trim, grind and sand smooth, and
renumber. EASIER said than done, the trim warps like nobody's
business under welding heat, plus you'll need to use old trim
aluminum as a welding rod so the color matches and you can't see a
ghosting of the old numbers.To me this is the hardest part, and NOT
cheap.</div>
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<div>Now this won't be cheap as the number stamps, parts and
welding would cost north of $20K+. However, given Factory 100M
premiums, it's possibly worth the effort. Folks have
worked harder to scam for less. Just my 2 cents. </div>
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<div>-Curt</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Aug 16, 2022 at 8:41 AM
HealeyRick <<a>healeyrik@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br></div>
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<div dir="ltr">In watching various auctions of high-end Healeys,
particularly Ms, I read opinions that it would be very difficult to
counterfeit all the identifying numbers on a Healey. My question
for the better informed would it really be that difficult to get
dies made up to punch realistic numbers, grind off the old numbers
on the trim pieces and body panels and make up some ID
plates? If cars are worth over $150k, I would think it would
be a relatively small investment in tooling and with all the
scanning equipment we have now, I can't see it being that
difficult.
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<div>Don't worry, not asking for a friend.</div>
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<div>Rick Neville</div>
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