<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"/><title></title></head><body><p style="margin: 0px;"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:#000000;text-decoration:none">When the 22 Amps are flowing permanently because the contact in the solenoid does not open to allow only the holding current to flow, which is around 2 Amps, the overdrive line cable to the solenoid gets extremely hot and melts!!! And can cause a massive cable burning. A friend was lucky to realise this early enough to stop the car to catch the fire estinguisher.<br /></span></p>
<p style="margin: 0px;"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:#000000;text-decoration:none">I always put in a 10 Amps fuse in this line, which stands the 22 Amps for the 2 to 3 seconds it needs to engage the solenoid, but blows when the current doesn`t go back from 22 Amps to 2 Amps in short time.</span></p>
<p style="margin: 0px;"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:#000000;text-decoration:none">Just a recommendation. I even have it in my concours cars, unvisible for the judges!</span></p>
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<p style="margin: 0px;">Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Fried OD Solenoid</p>
<p style="margin: 0px;">Datum: 2022-03-25T19:02:52+0100</p>
<p style="margin: 0px;">Von: "john harper" <ah100tech@gmail.com></p>
<p style="margin: 0px;">An: "Michael Salter" <michaelsalter@gmail.com></p>
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<div>The overheating is likely to because the armature has not risen enough to break the contacts to the heavy pick coil. There is for a short while about 22 amps is flowing which heats up the heavy coil to the point where it fails or the heavy contacts burn out. When operating correctly only the hold current should be taken; perhaps 3 amps. The action is that the heavy coil is needed to raise armature until when it is at the top it breaks the heavy current. The hold coil is sufficient to do as it says and keeps the armature in place causing the overdrive to operate.</div>
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<div>A frequent cause of the ODs with an open frame and with a rubber bottom stop is that this rubber button rots with oil or falls out. With the armature lower than it should be with the button in place the pick current is insufficient to lift the armature with only part of it inside the coil. the coil will then keep taking current. </div>
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<div>On mine, I have drilled and tapped the hole in which the rubber stop was fitted to allow a bolt and nut to be fitted that can then be adjusted as is possible on the enclosed versions</div>
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<div>Best regards</div>
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<div class="gmail_attr" dir="ltr">On Fri, 25 Mar 2022 at 15:13, Michael Salter <<a href="mailto:michaelsalter@gmail.com">michaelsalter@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div>
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<div dir="auto">Bluntly Simon, the operating valve was NOT set up correctly.
<div dir="auto">The "pull" coil was still being powered and drawing probably some 20 amps.</div>
<div dir="auto">New solenoid required and some careful setup.</div>
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<div class="gmail_attr" dir="ltr">On Fri., Mar. 25, 2022, 10:50 a.m. Simon Lachlan via Healeys, <<a href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Since we’re on the OD topic….<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I took my MkII BT7 out the other day, first time for ages, 8 weeks+/-.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Anyhow, the OD didn’t work. I’d been to a carpet trimmer and left my tunnel cover with him so access was easy……<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">The solenoid was very hot…too hot to touch which made me suspicious. Anyhow, I did my OD electrical click-test and it failed at the first hurdle. So, I took the solenoid out and…well, look at the picture.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">The plastic/nylon cover to the points and wiring was virtually welded in place. And the inside is a complete mess.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">So, the OD was rebuilt about 50 miles ago by OD Spares and I’m happy with the wiring. My question is this…is there a frequent or a probable cause to these fry ups?? These things check out at about £50:00 so I don’t want to be chucking them in at regular intervals. Anything in particular that I should look out for???<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks,<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Simon<u></u><u></u></p>
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