<html><body>Simon-note #6 is key. The number on your gearbox. That is a very late GB number in your photo. It appears that at some point your car received a replacement transmission as noted by the Gold Seal paint. This appears to be a BJ8 box. That would be why it has a nylon bush and it is working properly.<div><br></div><div>If someone has swapped out the shift towers on the MKII GB to a BJ8 style, than that also would be an indicator of the nylon bush use. If its working leave well enough alone is my suggestion, and note somewhere that you have a later GB, or tower, in an earlier car. Regards, Hank<br><br><div class="reply-new-signature"></div><p>-----------------------------------------</p>From: simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com<br>To: gradea1@charter.net<br>Cc: <br>Sent: Friday December 3 2021 1:00:08AM<br>Subject: RE: [Healeys] Centre Change Gear Sticks<br><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span>Well,
this is all very confusing…..</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>You’ll recall that I started this
particular hare running?</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>1) My
car is a MkII BT7.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>2) I
only removed the stick because I was going to have it rechromed. No
problem with it mechanically, only that its appearance was very
worn.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>3)
The stick has roll pins and no indication that it ever had anything
different.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>4) I
knew nothing about differing sticks, but reference to suppliers
websites led me to expect a brass thingie underneath the stick.
But, I found the nylon version.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>5)
There was no functional reason to replace the stick ie it, with
roll pins and nylon bush, had been in situ during my tenure of
25+/- years. And for how long before that?? When I had first gear
and reverse looked at by John Chatham’s 25 years ago they may have
removed the stick, but I expect not.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>6)
The box is a BMC Goldseal which is painted and, on the clutch
bell-housing, tagged AEC 3554 which, I gather from my parts
book, is a MkII gearbox. However, I haven’t looked at the number on
the gearbox cover.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>7)
When I bought the car, it came with a “box of bits”. Inside was a
bag, marked BJ8, which contained a nylon bush. For years I had no
idea what that was!!</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>8)
When I ordered a bush for my car as the old one had to be at least
25 years old, AH Spares sent me the nylon version. This was
identical to the one from the “box of bits”.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>I
have to say that I’m flummoxed.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>The
Goldseal business may imply that there was a run of boxes coming
out of BMC which were a blend of MkII and III. ie roll pins and
nylon bush???</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>When
pondering all this, I remind myself that the nylon bush/roll pin
setup worked for at least 25 years, took me all over the
place. Even over the Alps. And is working now.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>If
you look at the Ahead4Healeys site, you’ll see that they list a
nylon alternative, GS 4051, for the side-shift brass bush, GS4050,
and that nylon <b><i>looks</i></b> exactly like the one they list
for the centre change box. They call this “for BJ8” and make no
mention of MkIIs.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>Any
ideas? I’ll be taking out the tunnel etc when my new carpet kit
arrives but I hate the idea of battling with that spring
again.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>Simon</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="en-us">From:</span></b>
<span lang="en-us">gradea1@charter.net
<gradea1@charter.net><br><b>Sent:</b> 03 December 2021 05:37<br><b>To:</b> 'Michael Salter' <michaelsalter@gmail.com><br><b>Cc:</b> 'Simon Lachlan'
<simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com>; 'Healeys'
<healeys@autox.team.net><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Centre Change Gear Sticks</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Lets be careful here. We have others who have
been stuck in gear or without gears. The nylon bush is <b>only used
on the BJ8. </b> The brass bush is used on the MK II gearbox,
which <b>includes the BJ7.</b> The BJ7 is actually a MK II Healey.
The shift levers are different as well. Here are the numbers from
the parts book:</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">BJ7 lever AEC8636, Bush-brass AEC 3520 (1 pr.)
Circlip 1G3709- this comes as a set. Roll pins (2) AEA558. Circlip
hold two halves of bush together.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">BJ8 lever 22B195-non/OD. Lever AEC3636 w/OD.
Lever Bush 22B191 (nylon). Roll Pin AEA558 This arrangement starts
with: GB 101-118 wo/OD, 101-1441 w/OD</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">What will happen if you use the nylon bush in
the MKII GB, is that after a few shifts the nylon will get mangled
and there goes your gears.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>MKII Brass</b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt;"><b>MKIII Nylon-
do not substitute.</b> Hank</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt;">From: "Michael
Salter via Healeys"<br>
To: "Simon Lachlan"<br>
Cc: "Healeys"<br>
Sent: Wednesday December 1 2021 5:46:06AM<br>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Centre Change Gear Sticks</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Pretty sure that the only change was the size
of the ball upon which the nylon bush rotates HOWEVER there
is a complication ... there are nylon bushes, from an MGB as
I recall, which can be used with the lever with the smaller ball
end.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">M</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Wed., Dec. 1, 2021, 8:21 a.m. Simon Lachlan
via Healeys, <<a>healeys@autox.team.net</a>>
wrote:</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi,</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I have a late
Mk II BT7. Centre change. So, my query is regarding the
gearstick.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">The box is a
BMC Goldseal replacement per the attached picture.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">The stick has
the two roll pins securing it which you’d expect up to BJ8s which,
I gather, had screws. But the bush under the stick in the white
nylon one which, I gather again, started with BJ8s. (To be fair,
I’ve looked into this and didn’t find a definitive answer on the
bushes). My gearbox seems to be a bit of a BT7/BJ8 mixture.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">My question is
can you put a roll-pin gearstick into a BJ8? Or vice-verca?</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks,</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Simon</p>
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