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If the brown colored "grit" was inside the dust cap or rubber boot it was from the grease that was packed in there. It transforms from the red hydraulic grease to a dry powder over time.
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From: Don via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net><br>
To: Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net><br>
Cc: Healeys@autox.team.net<br>
Sent: Sun, Nov 7, 2021 2:44 pm<br>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Clutch plate<br>
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<div>Problem found . I was able to remove the clutch slave cylinder. I took the dust cap off and what looks like sand came pouring out . Piston frozen solid . <img src="cid:VSfqLIizsdrK3VbKK9re" yahoo_partid="1.2.2"><br clear="none"><br clear="none">
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    re: "the clutch plate would have to be stuck [to the] transmission
    shaft"<br clear="none">
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    The most plausible explanation yet. Sitting for years, esp. in a
    damp climate, the splines could very well 'rust-weld' together given
    their small clearance. I don't know if it's common practice, but I
    always put some tenacious grease, usually wheel bearing grease, on
    those splines (thin coat only). <br clear="none">
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      via Healeys wrote:<br clear="none">
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<div class="yiv8731480729MsoNormal">I would sort out the hydraulics first and
          then if it still doesn’t move the clutch pressure plate
          mechanism may be seized. The clutch plate would have to be
          stuck to both the pressure plate and the flywheel and or the
          transmission shaft to prevent movement.</div>

        
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<div class="yiv8731480729MsoNormal">Harold</div>
 
        
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<div style="border:none;padding:0in;" class="yiv8731480729MsoNormal"><b>From:
            </b><a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net">Simon Lachlan via Healeys</a><br clear="none">
            <b>Sent: </b>Sunday, November 7, 2021 1:43 AM<br clear="none">
            <b>Cc: </b><a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net">Healeys</a><br clear="none">
            <b>Subject: </b>Re: [Healeys] Clutch plate</div>

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<div class="yiv8731480729MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">After/during a
            protracted battle with my clutch, I can confirm that it
            takes a lot of effort to move the fork by hand. A LOT. I
            used a lever and got virtually nowhere, but then, it seems,
            I’d been sold the wrong clutch cover.</span></div>
 
        
<div class="yiv8731480729MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">What did impress me was
            the comparison between how hard/impossible it was to move by
            hand and how easy it was to get it to move with the pedal
            once the hydraulics were 100%. </span></div>
 
        
<div class="yiv8731480729MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Certainly, I’d want to
            convince myself that the hydraulics were 100% before
            assuming that the disk was stuck.</span></div>
 
        
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<div class="yiv8731480729MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Healeys
              <a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net" class="yiv8731480729moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"><healeys-bounces@autox.team.net></a> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Bob
              Spidell via Healeys<br clear="none">
              <b>Sent:</b> 07 November 2021 03:56<br clear="none">
              <b>To:</b> <a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net" class="yiv8731480729moz-txt-link-abbreviated">healeys@autox.team.net</a><br clear="none">
              <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Clutch plate<span lang="EN-GB"></span></div>
 
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<div style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;" class="yiv8731480729MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">re: "Would this happen if the clutch disc was
            stuck to the flywheel?"<br clear="none">
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            I think if it was just the clutch disk stuck to flywheel
            you'd still get at least some movement of the pedal. Early
            cars used coil springs in the cover plate to hold the disk
            firm to the flywheel, and later cars used diaphragm
            'springs.' I think with either you'd at least be able to
            move the pedal until the springs reached their limit of
            travel (or you left leg reached its limit of strength). <br clear="none">
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            It's a long shot SWAG, but since the car has sat for a long
            time it's conceivable the fluid in the line has gelled
            and/or crystallized to the point it prevents flow to the
            slave cylinder (I have had BF gell up). I'm not sure you can
            move the release bearing fork much by hand, though I haven't
            tried; those are some strong springs in the cover plate.<br clear="none">
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            Bob</span></div>
 
        
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<div class="yiv8731480729MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">On 11/6/2021 7:52 PM,
              Don via Healeys wrote:</span></div>
 
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<div class="yiv8731480729MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Sorry I didn’t finish
              my story about the fixes I’ve done so far . When I first
              got the car and I tried to push the clutch pedal it
              wouldn’t move.  After removing the carbs , which I’m going
              to rebuild I was able to access the clutch master
              cylinder. After removing the lines to the master cylinder
              i was able to push the pedal to the floor . I’m replacing
              the lines to both the clutch and brake master cylinder.
              I’m replacing both master cylinders . I’m replacing the
              hydraulic fluid tank as it leaks. When I got under the car
              and looked at the clutch slave cylinder, which I’m
              replacing I can’t move the clutch fork. I can’t budge it ,
              I can’t move the piston rod . I’m going to finish
              rebuilding, replacing everything in both the clutch and
              brake hydraulics system. I’m just Puzzled as to why won’t
              move . Would this happen if the clutch disc was stuck to
              the flywheel?  I may answer my own question the farther I
              get into the rebuild. I don’t want to need to replace the
              clutch.  </span></div>
 
          
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<div style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;" class="yiv8731480729MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">On Nov 6, 2021, at 10:08 PM, <a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:gradea1@charter.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:gradea1@charter.net" class="yiv8731480729moz-txt-link-freetext">gradea1@charter.net</a>
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<div class="yiv8731480729MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Twelve years
                    could have built up some "goo" in the clutch master
                    cylinder and prevent it from moving the piston. As
                    Perry says, could also be the same issue in the
                    slave. However, the clutch is hydraulic and the
                    pedal does not move any mechanics (other than the
                    piston rod) so it can't be mechanically hung up. The
                    clutch disc is another issue which may show up
                    later, and I would wonder if the brakes are
                    functioning? Moisture really plays havoc with
                    hydraulics especially if the car is not in a
                    conditioned space. </span></div>
 
                
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<div style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;" class="yiv8731480729MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">This is a good time to change all the
                      fluid, replace hoses, rebuild or replace
                      cylinders-fun stuff. Hank</span></div>
 
                  
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<div class="yiv8731480729MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">From: "Perry
                      Small via Healeys" <br clear="none">
                      To: "Don Day"<br clear="none">
                      Cc: "healey list"<br clear="none">
                      Sent: Saturday November 6 2021 6:48:37PM<br clear="none">
                      Subject: Re: [Healeys] Clutch plate<br clear="none">
                      <br clear="none">
                      Don<br clear="none">
                      Maybe the slave cylinder is locked up. Pull the
                      pin at the slave and see if the clutch pedal will
                      move.<br clear="none">
                      P<br clear="none">
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                      Sent from my iPhone<br clear="none">
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                      > On Nov 6, 2021, at 7:36 PM, Don Day via
                      Healeys <a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"><healeys@autox.team.net></a>
                      wrote:<br clear="none">
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                      > Hi List<br clear="none">
                      > If a 65 1/2 BJ8Healey has been sitting for
                      over 12 years , Allegedly in a garage and I’m
                      thinking the clutch plate could be stuck to the
                      flywheel, can’t push clutch pedal in , can it be
                      freed up .<br clear="none">
                      > Thanks Don<br clear="none">
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