<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="color:#3333ff">Michael/All--</div><div class="gmail_default" style="color:#3333ff"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color:#3333ff">When the term "upgraded" is used in the description of a performance part the clear implication is that is in some way better than the standard item. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="color:#3333ff">In terms of AH water pumps that ain't saying much as what we are offered is very prone to early failure, so I sincerely ask what the "upgrade" consists of? </div><div class="gmail_default" style="color:#3333ff">Bill Bolton used to offer wp's on an exchange basis and he claimed to have a better seal, which is often the point of failure on the standard County pumps. </div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Aug 29, 2021 at 8:20 AM Michael Salter <<a href="mailto:michaelsalter@gmail.com">michaelsalter@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">In my experience "upgraded" is another way of saying " we didn't want to pay for the tooling for an accurate reproduction ".<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">M</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun., Aug. 29, 2021, 7:30 a.m. Michael Oritt via Healeys, <<a href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net" target="_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(51,51,255)">Bob--</div><div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(51,51,255)"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(51,51,255)">Thanks and in checking the Moss catalogue this morning I see that in fact they do sell the two side-by-side as you state at $96.00 and $163.00 respectively. That is an 80% increase in price for the "upgraded" pump and I must wonder what the pump achieves--and how it does it--to justify such an increase. "Upgrade" might have several meanings and given the propensity of these pumps to fail, perhaps the term describes longevity versus performance, with a better-quality seal. OTOH if the upgrade is in performance that usually means increased water flow. Unless the outer housing is substantially larger the cast-in "fins" on the internal impeller cannot be that much larger and so I wonder how such an increase would be achieved.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(51,51,255)"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(51,51,255)">Just sayin'.... </div><div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(51,51,255)"><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Aug 28, 2021 at 11:07 PM Bob Spidell <<a href="mailto:bspidell@comcast.net" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">bspidell@comcast.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div>
Michael,<br>
<br>
The 'upgraded' pump sold by Moss, Bastuck and BPN all appear to be
the same:<br>
<br>
<a href="https://www.bpnorthwest.com/water-pump-uprated-bn1-to-bn2.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.bpnorthwest.com/water-pump-uprated-bn1-to-bn2.html</a><br>
<br>
(if you look close you can see '--STUCK' on the pump body)<br>
<br>
Claims '30% more flow,' BUT--there's always a 'but'--per the Moss
catalog it will not fit the OEM brass heater line valve/nipple. The
cheaper one Moss sells supposedly does, but best I can tell it's a
County product. I've bad experiences with County, but both Tom
Monaco and David Nock say they have fit many with no issues.<br>
<br>
The new one from AHSpares appears to be different, but also comes
with a barbed nipple:<br>
<br>
<a href="https://www.ahspares.co.uk/austin-healey/big-healey/cooling-heating-cht101-to-cht147/premium-water-pump-new-with-34-pulley.aspx" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.ahspares.co.uk/austin-healey/big-healey/cooling-heating-cht101-to-cht147/premium-water-pump-new-with-34-pulley.aspx</a><br>
<br>
<br>
I started to remove my pump, but found the pulley was loose; pump
appears to be OK.<br>
<br>
Bob<br>
<br>
<div>On 8/28/2021 7:26 PM, Michael Oritt
wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">
<div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(51,51,255)">AsI recall Moss
is or was selling "Upgraded" water pumps. </div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(51,51,255)">Does anyone
know what the "upgrade" consists of?</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(51,51,255)">Bob, if you buy
one I hope you will post what your appraisal and experience
with the part is--for now I have come to0 regard the pumps we
are offered as "wear items".</div>
</div>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">
<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Aug 28, 2021 at 9:42
PM Bob Spidell <<a href="mailto:bspidell@comcast.net" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">bspidell@comcast.net</a>> wrote:<br>
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<div> Thanks. The one Bastuck is selling appears to be the
'upgraded' pump AHSpares is selling.<br>
<br>
It appears my pump is OK, the pulley had just come loose.
Thanks for the tips, guys.<br>
<br>
Bob<br>
<br>
<div>On 8/28/2021 10:21 AM, <a href="mailto:gradea1@charter.net" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">gradea1@charter.net</a> wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite"> AH Spares, UK is currently
advertising water pumps for BN1-2s in the AH Magazine-
they show their pump in the ad. Good folks to work with.
Hank<br>
<br>
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</blockquote></div><br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div dir="ltr"><font color="#3333ff">Best--Michael</font></div>
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