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I have used silicone for years without any problems....added plus it does not attack paint..an accidental drop can wreck on a nice paint job. Have seen comments that silicone gives a spongey feel, but not that I noticed.</div>
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1. Which Brake Fluid? (Michael MacLean)<br>
2. Re: Which Brake Fluid? (Kees Oudesluijs)<br>
3. Re: Which Brake Fluid? (Kees Oudesluijs)<br>
4. Re: Which Brake Fluid? (Michael Salter)<br>
5. Re: Which Brake Fluid? (Steven Kingsbury)<br>
6. Healey Sighting (Bob Spidell)<br>
7. Re: Which Brake Fluid? (Tom Felts)<br>
8. Re: Which Brake Fluid? (warthodson@aol.com)<br>
9. Re: Which Brake Fluid? (Michael Oritt)<br>
10. Re: Which Brake Fluid? (Kees Oudesluijs)<br>
11. Re: Which Brake Fluid? (warthodson@aol.com)<br>
12. Re: Which Brake Fluid? (Michael Oritt)<br>
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Message: 1<br>
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2021 14:03:58 -0700<br>
From: Michael MacLean <springer.mike51@gmail.com><br>
To: Ahealey help <healeys@autox.team.net><br>
Subject: [Healeys] Which Brake Fluid?<br>
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The BN2 is at the point where it is time to fill and bleed the new brake<br>
system. Now comes the time to decide whether to go with DOT 3/4 brake<br>
fluid or try silicone. Any recommendations, advice or warnings on this<br>
decision?<br>
Mike MacLean<br>
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Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2021 23:35:23 +0200 (CEST)<br>
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To: Michael MacLean <springer.mike51@gmail.com>, Michael MacLean via<br>
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DOT4. If you want to try silicon you would have to rebuild your entire hydraulic circuit and fit all new rubber components. It may sometimes work without a rebuild or it may fail as DOT4 and DOT5 (silicon) are not compatible and do not mix.<br>
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What your life (and others) worth??<br>
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Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2021 23:44:24 +0200 (CEST)<br>
From: Kees Oudesluijs <coudesluijs@upcmail.nl><br>
To: Michael MacLean <springer.mike51@gmail.com>, Michael MacLean via<br>
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Sorry, did not read the question properly.<br>
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In a new system you have the choice obviously.<br>
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I would go for DOT4, which absorbs water, and change that every two years. That will get rid of any moisture getting into your system before it can do any harm. It also forces you to check the system when you replace the fluid. It is cheap and available anywhere.<br>
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The problem with silicon brake fluid is that it does not absorb water. Water will always enter the system because of condensation in the brake fluid reservoir. This moisture can than settle in the lower parts of the system and cause havoc unnoticed until it
leaks.<br>
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Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2021 17:52:37 -0400<br>
From: Michael Salter <michaelsalter@gmail.com><br>
To: Kees Oudesluijs <coudesluijs@upcmail.nl><br>
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In this instance I agree with Kees.<br>
The decision comes down to personal preference IMHO.<br>
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On Fri., Jul. 23, 2021, 5:48 p.m. Kees Oudesluijs via Healeys, <<br>
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> Sorry, did not read the question properly.<br>
><br>
> In a new system you have the choice obviously.<br>
><br>
> I would go for DOT4, which absorbs water, and change that every two years.<br>
> That will get rid of any moisture getting into your system before it can do<br>
> any harm. It also forces you to check the system when you replace the<br>
> fluid. It is cheap and available anywhere.<br>
><br>
> The problem with silicon brake fluid is that it does not absorb water.<br>
> Water will always enter the system because of condensation in the brake<br>
> fluid reservoir. This moisture can than settle in the lower parts of the<br>
> system and cause havoc unnoticed until it leaks.<br>
><br>
><br>
> Kees Oudesluijs<br>
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Message: 5<br>
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2021 23:29:48 -0000<br>
From: Steven Kingsbury <airtightproductions@icloud.com><br>
To: Michael MacLean <springer.mike51@gmail.com><br>
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I'm with everyone else I've read so far; DOT 4. Simple and it works.<br>
Steven Kingsbury<br>
BN1<br>
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On July 23, 2021 at 2:05 PM, Michael MacLean via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:<br>
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The BN2 is at the point where it is time to fill and bleed the new brake system.? Now comes the time to decide whether to go with DOT 3/4 brake fluid or try silicone.? Any recommendations,? advice or warnings on this decision?<br>
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Message: 6<br>
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2021 20:26:15 -0700<br>
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I think they're listening to Apollo 11 on the radio.<br>
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Message: 7<br>
Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2021 05:28:56 -0400 (EDT)<br>
From: Tom Felts <tomfelts@windstream.net><br>
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I have been using DOT 5 in my BJ8 for years. Works fine for me.<br>
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Sent: Fri, 23 Jul 2021 19:29:48 -0400 (EDT)<br>
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I'm with everyone else I've read so far; DOT 4. Simple and it works.Steven KingsburyBN1<br>
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Message: 8<br>
Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2021 13:03:25 +0000 (UTC)<br>
From: warthodson@aol.com<br>
To: "healeys@autox.team.net" <healeys@autox.team.net>,<br>
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I would like to say a few words on behalf of silicone brake fluid.It is non-hygroscopic (does not absorb moisture).It does not damage paint as do glycol fluids.<br>
A newly rebuilt and scrupulously clean brake system filled with silicone fluid should outlast a system filled with glycol fluid by several times.<br>
The military specifies Silicone brake fluid for a reason.?<br>
<br>
Gary Hodson<br>
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On July 23, 2021 at 2:05 PM, Michael MacLean via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:<br>
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The BN2 is at the point where it is time to fill and bleed the new brake system.? Now comes the time to decide whether to go with DOT 3/4 brake fluid or try silicone.? Any recommendations,? advice or warnings on this decision?Mike MacLean<br>
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Message: 9<br>
Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2021 09:18:38 -0400<br>
From: Michael Oritt <michael.oritt@gmail.com><br>
To: warthodson@aol.com<br>
Cc: "healeys@autox.team.net" <healeys@autox.team.net>,<br>
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"The military specifies Silicone brake fluid for a reason"<br>
<br>
Not necessarily a good one.<br>
<br>
Best--Michael Oritt<br>
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On Sat, Jul 24, 2021 at 9:04 AM warthodson--- via Healeys <<br>
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> I would like to say a few words on behalf of silicone brake fluid.<br>
> It is non-hygroscopic (does not absorb moisture).<br>
> It does not damage paint as do glycol fluids.<br>
> A newly rebuilt and scrupulously clean brake system filled with silicone<br>
> fluid should outlast a system filled with glycol fluid by several times.<br>
> The military specifies Silicone brake fluid for a reason.<br>
><br>
> Gary Hodson<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> On July 23, 2021 at 2:05 PM, Michael MacLean via Healeys <<br>
> healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:<br>
><br>
> The BN2 is at the point where it is time to fill and bleed the new brake<br>
> system. Now comes the time to decide whether to go with DOT 3/4 brake<br>
> fluid or try silicone. Any recommendations, advice or warnings on this<br>
> decision?<br>
> Mike MacLean<br>
><br>
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Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2021 15:33:05 +0200 (CEST)<br>
From: Kees Oudesluijs <coudesluijs@upcmail.nl><br>
To: Michael Oritt <michael.oritt@gmail.com>, Michael Oritt via Healeys<br>
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Perhaps the military also specify corrosion proof/lined/SS hydraulic parts??<br>
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Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2021 13:38:04 +0000 (UTC)<br>
From: warthodson@aol.com<br>
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You really believe that?<br>
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Sent: Sat, Jul 24, 2021 8:18 am<br>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Which Brake Fluid?<br>
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"The military specifies Silicone brake fluid for a reason"<br>
Not necessarily a good one.<br>
Best--Michael Oritt<br>
On Sat, Jul 24, 2021 at 9:04 AM warthodson--- via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:<br>
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I would like to say a few words on behalf of silicone brake fluid.It is non-hygroscopic (does not absorb moisture).It does not damage paint as do glycol fluids.<br>
A newly rebuilt and scrupulously clean brake system filled with silicone fluid should outlast a system filled with glycol fluid by several times.<br>
The military specifies Silicone brake fluid for a reason.?<br>
<br>
Gary Hodson<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
On July 23, 2021 at 2:05 PM, Michael MacLean via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:<br>
<br>
<br>
The BN2 is at the point where it is time to fill and bleed the new brake system.? Now comes the time to decide whether to go with DOT 3/4 brake fluid or try silicone.? Any recommendations,? advice or warnings on this decision?Mike MacLean<br>
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Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2021 09:38:53 -0400<br>
From: Michael Oritt <michael.oritt@gmail.com><br>
To: Michael MacLean <springer.mike51@gmail.com><br>
Cc: Ahealey help <healeys@autox.team.net><br>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Which Brake Fluid?<br>
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Both have pluses and minuses--I simply feel that DOT 3/4 has more of the<br>
former and fewer of the latter than does silicone, but that's just me.<br>
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Best--Michael Oritt<br>
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On Fri, Jul 23, 2021 at 5:04 PM Michael MacLean via Healeys <<br>
healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:<br>
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> The BN2 is at the point where it is time to fill and bleed the new brake<br>
> system. Now comes the time to decide whether to go with DOT 3/4 brake<br>
> fluid or try silicone. Any recommendations, advice or warnings on this<br>
> decision?<br>
> Mike MacLean<br>
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