<div dir="auto">Dangerous combination ... <span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:18.6667px">Tamiami Trail and a Lincoln 😳😳</span></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue., Mar. 30, 2021, 5:24 p.m. , <<a href="mailto:rfbegani@gmail.com">rfbegani@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="#954F72" style="word-wrap:break-word"><div class="m_3775531525857581575WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">While my BJ8 was still on stands after installing the engine and transmission, I took the rear brakes apart and installed new cylinders and shoes, springs etc. It was a great deal of pushing and shoving to get the first one apart so I could clean and oil those items which would be moving. Still, I had to take it apart and put it back together 3 times before the system looked and worked good. The left rear brake was easier and took only 2 assemblies to get it right. Then came the installation of the emergency brake. Again 2-3 times before it was adjusted and operating. <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Fast forward to last week when turning on to the Tamiami Trail and accelerating up to the 45 mph speed limit in very little traffic I approached a cross access of the 4 lane divided highway and carefully watched 2 cars waiting to cross in front of me when the big old Lincoln Town Car pulled out in front of me. It was a good test of the brakes. All 4 activated at the same time, helped by my new Michelin tires we stopped a full car length away from the passenger side doors. I could see his Mrs. going into shock because the driver had come to a complete stop broadside in front of us. <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Before all this work on the brakes, my BJ8 rear wheels for years would activate independently as a result the car would slide sideways. <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Keep working on the brakes as the life you save might be your own.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Best regards,<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Bob Begani<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Healeys <<a href="mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Harold Manifold via Healeys<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 30, 2021 4:18 PM<br><b>To:</b> Roger Grace <<a href="mailto:roggrace@telus.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">roggrace@telus.net</a>>; Bob Spidell <<a href="mailto:bspidell@comcast.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">bspidell@comcast.net</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> Healeys <<a href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">healeys@autox.team.net</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Rear brake adjustment<u></u><u></u></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Does this help? Note the difference between item 2 and 4.<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Harold Manifold<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b>From: </b><a href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">Roger Grace via Healeys</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Tuesday, March 30, 2021 9:54 AM<br><b>To: </b><a href="mailto:bspidell@comcast.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">Bob Spidell</a><br><b>Cc: </b><a href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">Healeys</a><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [Healeys] Rear brake adjustment<u></u><u></u></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Yes thank you; that sounds like a good explanation. As you say it is a bear of a job and just working up some stamina to tackle it again !<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">rg<u></u><u></u></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">On Mon, Mar 29, 2021 at 10:38 PM Bob Spidell <<a href="mailto:bspidell@comcast.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">bspidell@comcast.net</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt">re: "I note that the slave is tight on the back plate. How tight is <br>normal floating ?"<br><br>I just spent several hours on my back on a greasy floor working on my <br>BN2's rear drums. I didn't see any text in the shop manual explaining <br>installation; most I found was a pic in the Moss catalog showing that <br>the curved spring, with the 'hooks,' should be installed above the <br>cylinder (between the cylinder and the handbrake lever). First, I <br>installed the flat plate against the backing plate with the spring plate <br>on top of it. Not only would the cylinder not move freely--which enables <br>the self-energizing aspect of the brakes--but the rubber dust boot had <br>nothing to hold it in place. I then reversed the installation; i.e. the <br>spring plate was still above the cylinder, but under the flat plate <br>(hooks up). This way the cylinder would slide smoothly and easily, which <br>makes sense because there is less contact area, but the rubber boot, <br>which is beveled on the inner part fit naturally under the flat plate <br>and would stay in place when vigorously sliding the cylinder <br>back-and-forth. Contact surfaces were lightly greased.<br><br>Short answer: the cylinder should slide smoothly and easily; otherwise <br>the self-energizing feature could be defeated, and the cylinder could be <br>stuck in the expanded position, which could explain your non-retracting <br>problem.<br><br>Bob<br><br><br>On 3/29/2021 3:07 PM, Roger Grace via Healeys wrote:<br>> BJ8 ph2.<br>> I am Struggling to get consistent results for rear brake shoe adjustment.<br>> All part of a project to get handbrake working properly - currently it <br>> is almost vertical.<br>> Background:<br>> New shoes, slaves and springs etc with less than 4k mi. Almost no sign <br>> of any wear yet.<br>> Handbrake lever clevis pins removed.<br>> Steady post adjusted so the peg just touches when brakes are adjusted <br>> tight.<br>> Then the adjustment set so you can just hear/feel slight brake drag.<br>> All OK so far.<br>><br>> Here is the problem:<br>> When the handbrake lever is pushed with screwdriver or my hand it <br>> moves with initial free play then clamps the shoes as it should. <br>> However when released brakes do not fully retract, and shoes bind and <br>> not at the same setting that started off with.<br>> Same story with using the hydraulics; seems to hang up, in not quite <br>> the off position. Both wheels are the same.<br>> Shoes can be "reset" to original setting by rattling the adjuster <br>> back and forth in the freeplay zone.<br>> All looks fine when drum is off and you can see the shoe operation.<br>><br>> My thoughts :<br>> I observe that the new springs actually touch the inside of the shoes ?<br>> Maybe some grease there ? Is this interference normal ?<br>> Is it possible to incorrectly assemble the shoes/springs ?<br>> See photo of RR.<br>> I note that the slave is tight on the back plate. How tight is normal <br>> floating ?<br>> Maybe I assembled the slave cylinder clips incorrectly ?<br>><br>> All suggestions appreciated<br>> rg<br>><br>><br>><br>><br>><br>><br>><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Support Team.Net <a href="http://www.team.net/donate.html" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br>Suggested annual donation $12.75<br><br>Archive: <a href="http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys</a> <a href="http://autox.team.net/archive" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">http://autox.team.net/archive</a><br><br><a href="mailto:Healeys@autox.team.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">Healeys@autox.team.net</a><br><a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys</a><br><br>Unsubscribe/Manage: <a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/roggrace@telus.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/roggrace@telus.net</a><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div></div>_______________________________________________<br>
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