<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style=""><span style="color:rgb(51,51,255)">Bob wrote:  </span><font color="#0000ff">"I'm surprised they lasted this long--if they did--it's a pretty harsh environment for rubber. As a rule, I don't lubricate any rubber parts with a petroleum-based grease or oil; silicone is supposedly less antagonistic to rubber."</font></div><div class="gmail_default" style=""><font color="#0000ff">--------------------------------------------</font></div><div class="gmail_default" style=""><font color="#0000ff">50 to 75 years is a pretty good replacement cycle.  </font></div><div class="gmail_default" style=""><font color="#0000ff">Maybe we should now be searching for silicon-based motor oils?</font></div><div class="gmail_default" style=""><font color="#0000ff"><br></font></div><div class="gmail_default" style=""><font color="#0000ff">Best--Michael Oritt</font></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Feb 21, 2021 at 3:47 PM Bob Spidell <<a href="mailto:bspidell@comcast.net">bspidell@comcast.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
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    re: "... I'm wondering if these things have a definite life which
    originals are now reaching."<br>
    <br>
    I'm surprised they lasted this long--if they did--it's a pretty
    harsh environment for rubber. As a rule, I don't lubricate any
    rubber parts with a petroleum-based grease or oil; silicone is
    supposedly less antagonistic to rubber.<br>
    <br>
    Side note: The original car gear for the 4-cyls, with the metal
    'slinger' plate are NLA. A Moss blurb advises transferring an
    original plate to one of their newer replacements; anyone tried this
    (it requires rivets)?<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <div>On 2/21/2021 12:37 PM, Michael Salter
      via Healeys wrote:<br>
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        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"comic sans ms",sans-serif;font-size:small">Until fairly recent years I had
          never experienced the breaking up of the rubber slipper on
          timing chain tensioners but the engine I recently disassembled
          had one that was completely destroyed. Apparently this was the
          original tensioner so I'm wondering if these things have a
          definite life which originals are now reaching.</div>
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        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"comic sans ms",sans-serif;font-size:small">M<br>
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Feb 21, 2021 at 2:27
          PM Michael Oritt via Healeys <<a href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net" target="_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>>
          wrote:<br>
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            <div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(51,51,255)">In
              the string about rubber valve seal shrouds Bob Spidell
              said:  "By no means let crumbling rubber parts see the
              inside of an engine."</div>
            <div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(51,51,255)"><br>
            </div>
            <div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(51,51,255)">About
              a year back I dropped the oil pan on my 100 to replace the
              oil pump and found numerous chunks of what seemed like
              very hard black plastic distributed throughout the sump. 
              This was a head scratcher as I knew there could be no
              plastic in the engine's interior yet there it was.  After
              thinking about it further I decided that it could only
              have been the remains of the rubber timing chain tensioner
              and sure enough when I pulled the front cover I saw that
              the tensioner was non-existent and the chain pretty
              loose.  I replaced the chain and tensioner--not an easy
              job--and magically a chattering sound that had
              been appearing at certain rpm's disappeared, no doubt a
              harmonic rattling of the loose timing chain.</div>
            <div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(51,51,255)"><br>
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            <div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(51,51,255)">Best--Michael
              Oritt</div>
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            <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Feb 21, 2021 at
              12:17 PM Bob Spidell <<a href="mailto:bspidell@comcast.net" target="_blank">bspidell@comcast.net</a>>
              wrote:<br>
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            <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Most mechanics favor
              modern 'top hat' style seals--I think they're one <br>
              piece--unless, of course, Concours Gold requires blue
              smoke from the <br>
              tailpipe.<br>
              <br>
              By no means let crumbling rubber parts see the inside of
              an engine.<br>
              <br>
              Bob<br>
              <br>
              <br>
              On 2/20/2021 9:28 PM, Alan Seigrist via Healeys wrote:<br>
              > All -<br>
              ><br>
              > On my A90 I am lapping one of the exhaust valves and
              this seal came <br>
              > off the upper part of the valve guide.<br>
              ><br>
              > It seems this is an original style valve seal shroud
              which no one <br>
              > sells.  I assume the best thing is to remove it and
              chuck it, <br>
              > correct?  It's already half disintegrated and I'm not
              really worried <br>
              > but would prefer to not  put it back on and have old
              rubber parts <br>
              > getting into the oil.<br>
              ><br>
              > Am I correct to not put it back on?  No one seems to
              sell these.<br>
              ><br>
              > Best,<br>
              ><br>
              > Alan<br>
              ><br>
              ><br>
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