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Hook up a 4" dia tube like the one used on the heater to draw air in on the carb side of the engine and point it so it blows air cross the float bowls. ( even warm air (should be enough to eliminate the vapor lock). and install a 4" dia axial flow fan in the
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1. Re: Flywheel removal (WILLIAM B LAWRENCE)<br>
2. Re: Flywheel removal (Alan Seigrist)<br>
3. Re: Flywheel removal (Tom Felts)<br>
4. Re: Flywheel removal (Bob Spidell)<br>
5. Rough running (Keith Pennell)<br>
6. Re: Flywheel removal (Steven Kingsbury)<br>
7. Re: Rough running (WILLIAM B LAWRENCE)<br>
8. Re: Rough running (Charlie Baldwin)<br>
9. Re: Rough running (Bob Spidell)<br>
10. Re: Rough running (Richard Collins)<br>
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Message: 1<br>
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2020 22:57:09 +0000<br>
From: WILLIAM B LAWRENCE <ynotink@msn.com><br>
To: Kees Oudesluijs via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>, Kees<br>
Oudesluijs <coudesluijs@chello.nl><br>
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If the engine has been rebuilt or built for increased performance it may have been statically balanced. If so the flywheel should be replaced in the same position as it may have had weight added or removed to match other components during the process.<br>
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Bill Lawrence<br>
BN1 #554<br>
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Subject: Re: [Healeys] Flywheel removal<br>
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No, the flywheel does nothing to trigger the ignition. Make sure though that you replace it in the same position you took it off (mark with centre punch or permanent marker). If you do not this you may upset the balance if the crankshaft, as in properly rebuild
engines the crankshaft is balanced with the flywheel and clutch assembly fitted.<br>
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Kees Oudesluijs<br>
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Op 11-11-2020 om 17:01 schreef Tom Felts via Healeys:<br>
If I remove and replace the flywheel in the exact location that it was removed am I disturbing anything like timing or ??<br>
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Thanks<br>
tom<br>
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Message: 2<br>
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2020 08:51:57 +0800<br>
From: Alan Seigrist <healey.nut@gmail.com><br>
To: Steven Kingsbury <airtightproductions@icloud.com><br>
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Steven -<br>
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Well you should know that the effective freeze plug operation depends<br>
entirely on perfect alignment of the flywheel ring. Check the workshop<br>
manual.<br>
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Cheers ;P ,<br>
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Alan<br>
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On Thu, Nov 12, 2020 at 12:36 AM Steven Kingsbury via Healeys <<br>
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> Not an expert on this, but I just did it with my engine, and to tell you<br>
> the truth, I'm not even sure if I got it back in the exact same position,<br>
> but my engine fired up and ran. And about five minutes in, it blew a freeze<br>
> plug, but that's another story and totally my fault. Good luck!<br>
> Steven Kingsbury<br>
> BN1<br>
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Message: 3<br>
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2020 07:21:19 -0500 (EST)<br>
From: Tom Felts <tomfelts@windstream.net><br>
To: warthodson@aol.com<br>
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Subject: Re: [Healeys] Flywheel removal<br>
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Thanks--I'm removing it to access the aftermarket oil seal that I think is leaking. I found a small puddle of oil on the floor in that approximate area and could find no other source of the leak.Tom<br>
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Sent: Wed, 11 Nov 2020 11:08:32 -0500 (EST)<br>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Flywheel removal<br>
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No, you are not, but it might be informative to know why you are removing it!<br>
Gary<br>
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Sent: Wed, Nov 11, 2020 10:01 am<br>
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Subject: [Healeys] Flywheel removal<br>
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If I remove and replace the flywheel in the exact location that it was removed am I disturbing anything like timing or ??<br>
Thankstom<br>
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Message: 4<br>
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2020 07:02:52 -0800<br>
From: Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net><br>
To: healeys@autox.team.net<br>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Flywheel removal<br>
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If it's not (relatively) new, I recommend replacing the front seal on <br>
the gearbox--inside the bellhousing--while you have the gearbox out. Oh, <br>
and check your release 'bearing.'<br>
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Bob<br>
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On 11/12/2020 4:21 AM, Tom Felts via Healeys wrote:<br>
> Thanks--I'm removing it to access the aftermarket oil seal that I <br>
> think is leaking.? I found a small puddle of oil on the floor in that <br>
> approximate area and could find no other source of the leak.<br>
><br>
> Tom<br>
><br>
> ----- Original Message -----<br>
> From: warthodson--- via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net><br>
> To: healeys@autox.team.net<br>
> Sent: Wed, 11 Nov 2020 11:08:32 -0500 (EST)<br>
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Flywheel removal<br>
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> No, you are not, but it might be informative to know why you are <br>
> removing it!<br>
> Gary<br>
><br>
> -----Original Message-----<br>
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> From: Tom Felts via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net><br>
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> To: healeys <healeys@autox.team.net><br>
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> Sent: Wed, Nov 11, 2020 10:01 am<br>
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> Subject: [Healeys] Flywheel removal<br>
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> If I remove and replace the flywheel in the exact location that it was <br>
> removed am I disturbing anything like timing or ??<br>
><br>
> Thanks<br>
> tom<br>
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Message: 5<br>
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2020 15:26:43 +0000 (UTC)<br>
From: Keith Pennell <llennep@verizon.net><br>
To: "healeys@autox.team.net" <healeys@autox.team.net><br>
Subject: [Healeys] Rough running<br>
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Two days ago I took the BJ8 out for its every-four-month exercise. ?Just as before it ran beautifully for the first 8 or so miles then began to develop a miss. ?Temp gauge around 180 and ambient temp 80-82 F. ?When I stopped for some photo taking it would not
restart (as I was afraid it would). ?Temp gauge above 220. ?After a 20 minute cooling off and allowing the temp to drop below 200 it reluctantly restarted, still with a miss, and I hurried on home.Any thoughts on what is the cause of this behavior? ?<br>
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Message: 6<br>
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2020 16:05:15 -0000<br>
From: Steven Kingsbury <airtightproductions@icloud.com><br>
To: Alan Seigrist <healey.nut@gmail.com><br>
Cc: Tom Felts <tomfelts@windstream.net>, Healey list<br>
<healeys@autox.team.net><br>
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Well I guess we'll/I'll find out this weekend then for sure as I replaced the freeze plug, but I also had a leaky block drain plug that could have been caused by the improper alignment. Or it could have just been operator error when I smacked the freeze plug
in place rather than whacked it in place.?<br>
???Or can you say: "leg pull"? Thanks Alan.<br>
Steven?<br>
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On November 11, 2020 at 4:52 PM, Alan Seigrist <healey.nut@gmail.com> wrote:<br>
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Steven -<br>
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Well you should know that the effective freeze plug operation depends entirely on perfect alignment of the flywheel ring.? Check the workshop manual.<br>
<br>
Cheers ;P ,<br>
<br>
<br>
Alan<br>
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On Thu, Nov 12, 2020 at 12:36 AM Steven Kingsbury via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:<br>
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Not an expert on this, but I just did it with my engine, and to tell you the truth, I'm not even sure if I got it back in the exact same position, but my engine fired up and ran. And about five minutes in, it blew a freeze plug, but that's another story and
totally my fault. Good luck!<br>
Steven Kingsbury<br>
BN1?<br>
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Message: 7<br>
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2020 16:12:29 +0000<br>
From: WILLIAM B LAWRENCE <ynotink@msn.com><br>
To: Keith Pennell via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>, Keith Pennell<br>
<llennep@verizon.net><br>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Rough running<br>
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Sounds like the standard, factory correct Healey vapor lock. When the engine is turned off residual heat soaks out of the engine and boils the fuel in the float bowls. Try cooling the float bowls with a spray of water or a wet rag. If that solves it you know
the problem, although not necessarily the solution.<br>
<br>
Bill Lawrence<br>
BN1 #554<br>
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From: Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of Keith Pennell via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net><br>
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2020 3:26 PM<br>
To: healeys@autox.team.net <healeys@autox.team.net><br>
Subject: [Healeys] Rough running<br>
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Two days ago I took the BJ8 out for its every-four-month exercise. Just as before it ran beautifully for the first 8 or so miles then began to develop a miss. Temp gauge around 180 and ambient temp 80-82 F. When I stopped for some photo taking it would not
restart (as I was afraid it would). Temp gauge above 220. After a 20 minute cooling off and allowing the temp to drop below 200 it reluctantly restarted, still with a miss, and I hurried on home.<br>
Any thoughts on what is the cause of this behavior?<br>
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Message: 8<br>
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2020 11:25:25 -0500<br>
From: Charlie Baldwin <mgcharlie@comcast.net><br>
To: healeys@autox.team.net<br>
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Keith,<br>
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Did you happen to feel the coil after it acted up?? if it is that, it <br>
will be very hot, so be careful to avoid burning your hand.<br>
<br>
Charlie<br>
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On 11/12/2020 10:26 AM, Keith Pennell via Healeys wrote:<br>
> Two days ago I took the BJ8 out for its every-four-month exercise. <br>
> ?Just as before it ran beautifully for the first 8 or so miles then <br>
> began to develop a miss. ?Temp gauge around 180 and ambient temp 80-82 <br>
> F. ?When I stopped for some photo taking it would not restart (as I <br>
> was afraid it would). ?Temp gauge above 220. ?After a 20 minute <br>
> cooling off and allowing the temp to drop below 200 it reluctantly <br>
> restarted, still with a miss, and I hurried on home.<br>
> Any thoughts on what is the cause of this behavior?<br>
><br>
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Message: 9<br>
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2020 08:49:24 -0800<br>
From: Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net><br>
To: healeys@autox.team.net<br>
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Yup. My BJ8 does the same, but I haven't driven the BN2 enough to say it <br>
does too (I presume it does/will).<br>
<br>
You said 'would not restart,' as in it would crank, but not fire, or <br>
wouldn't crank? When a marginal starter gets heat-soaked they often <br>
won't crank the engine as fast which, of course, makes starting more <br>
difficult. Same with a heat-soaked, marginal fuel pump; it might not <br>
pump well enough to (at least partly) overcome cavitation in the fuel line.<br>
<br>
Bob<br>
<br>
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On 11/12/2020 8:12 AM, WILLIAM B LAWRENCE via Healeys wrote:<br>
> Sounds like the standard, factory correct Healey vapor lock. When the <br>
> engine is turned off residual heat soaks out of the engine and boils <br>
> the fuel in the float bowls. Try cooling the float bowls with a spray <br>
> of water or a wet rag. If that solves it you know the problem, <br>
> although not necessarily the solution.<br>
><br>
> Bill Lawrence<br>
> BN1 #554<br>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>
> *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of Keith <br>
> Pennell via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net><br>
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 12, 2020 3:26 PM<br>
> *To:* healeys@autox.team.net <healeys@autox.team.net><br>
> *Subject:* [Healeys] Rough running<br>
> Two days ago I took the BJ8 out for its every-four-month exercise. <br>
> ?Just as before it ran beautifully for the first 8 or so miles then <br>
> began to develop a miss. ?Temp gauge around 180 and ambient temp 80-82 <br>
> F. ?When I stopped for some photo taking it would not restart (as I <br>
> was afraid it would). ?Temp gauge above 220. ?After a 20 minute <br>
> cooling off and allowing the temp to drop below 200 it reluctantly <br>
> restarted, still with a miss, and I hurried on home.<br>
> Any thoughts on what is the cause of this behavior?<br>
><br>
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Message: 10<br>
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2020 16:55:54 +0000<br>
From: Richard Collins <gonnagitcha90@hotmail.com><br>
To: Charlie Baldwin <mgcharlie@comcast.net><br>
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Vapor lock;<br>
Mine starts at 195 on the gauge during warm weather with heat sink to 200+ when shut down to cool. About 20 minutes and it runs again.<br>
I wrapped fuel lines but haven?t installed the heat shield I?ve had for many years.<br>
Hence I rarely drive it in mid summer here in KY<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
Richard C<br>
BN7 440<br>
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On Nov 12, 2020, at 10:38, Charlie Baldwin <mgcharlie@comcast.net> wrote:<br>
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Keith,<br>
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Did you happen to feel the coil after it acted up? if it is that, it will be very hot, so be careful to avoid burning your hand.<br>
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On 11/12/2020 10:26 AM, Keith Pennell via Healeys wrote:<br>
Two days ago I took the BJ8 out for its every-four-month exercise. Just as before it ran beautifully for the first 8 or so miles then began to develop a miss. Temp gauge around 180 and ambient temp 80-82 F. When I stopped for some photo taking it would not
restart (as I was afraid it would). Temp gauge above 220. After a 20 minute cooling off and allowing the temp to drop below 200 it reluctantly restarted, still with a miss, and I hurried on home.<br>
Any thoughts on what is the cause of this behavior?<br>
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