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--></style></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink="#954F72"><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>OK Harold you brought up the Romans so here is a useless but informative piece of personal transportation history for your perusal on a sunny September day. These guys, I think the hammer owner name was Thor Pirelli, used a hammer to put their “tires” on…</p><p class=MsoNormal>Perry</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div id=main-content><div><div><div style='margin-top:24.0pt;box-sizing: inherit'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white;vertical-align:baseline'><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black'><a href="https://www.seeker.com/earth-and-conservation/history"><span style='border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in'><o:p></o:p></span></a></span></p><div style='margin-bottom:.25in;box-sizing: border-box;font-style:inherit;font-variant:inherit;font-stretch: inherit;line-height:inherit;display:inline-block;border-radius: 0px;height:fit-content'><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center;background:#9E4EB9;vertical-align:baseline'><b><u><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"acumin-pro-wide",serif;color:white;text-transform:uppercase;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in'><a href="https://www.seeker.com/earth-and-conservation/history"><span style='color:white'>HISTORY</span><span style='color:white;border:none;text-decoration:none'><o:p></o:p></span></a></span></u></b></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white;vertical-align:baseline'><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black'>Used without permission from Rosella but I will apologize profusely if thrown under the bus…:0<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><h1 style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:15.0pt;margin-left:0in;line-height:39.0pt;background:white;vertical-align:baseline;box-sizing: inherit;font-variant:inherit;font-stretch: inherit'><span style='font-size:34.5pt;font-family:"acumin-pro-wide",serif;color:black'>This Secret Feature Kept Ancient Roman Chariots From Crashing<o:p></o:p></span></h1><h2 style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:.25in;margin-left:0in;line-height:24.75pt;background:white;vertical-align:baseline;box-sizing: inherit;font-variant:inherit;font-stretch: inherit'><b><span style='font-size:15.0pt;font-family:"acumin-pro",serif;color:black'>Close examination of an ancient toy chariot has revealed a clue to what helped lead ancient Roman charioteers to victory.</span></b><span style='font-size:15.0pt;font-family:"acumin-pro",serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></h2><div><div style='margin-bottom:21.0pt;box-sizing: inherit;font-variant:inherit;font-stretch: inherit'><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:13.5pt;background:white;vertical-align:baseline'><span class=bylinestylesauthor-sc-1dq0qrh-1><span style='font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"acumin-pro",serif;color:black;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in'>By <a href="https://www.seeker.com/community/rlorenzi"><span style='color:black'>Rossella Lorenzi</span></a></span></span><span style='font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"acumin-pro",serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=bylinestylesdate-sc-1dq0qrh-2 style='margin:0in;line-height:13.5pt;background:white;vertical-align:baseline'><span style='font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"acumin-pro",serif;color:#787878'>Published on 1/10/2017 at 1:10 PM<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div><div style='margin-bottom:21.0pt;box-sizing: inherit;font-variant:inherit;font-stretch: inherit'><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:21.0pt;margin-left:0in;line-height:19.5pt;background:white;vertical-align:baseline'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"acumin-pro",serif;color:black'>When most people imagine chariot racing in ancient Rome, they likely picture the thrilling race portrayed in the epic blockbuster "Ben-Hur." Yet it's unlikely the heavy chariot driven by Charlton Heston would ever win a real race.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:21.0pt;margin-left:0in;line-height:19.5pt;background:white;vertical-align:baseline;box-sizing: inherit'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"acumin-pro",serif;color:black'>That chariot wasn't just hopelessly huge and heavy - it did not have proper tires.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:21.0pt;margin-left:0in;line-height:19.5pt;background:white;vertical-align:baseline;box-sizing: inherit'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"acumin-pro",serif;color:black'>A study of a 2,000-year-old toy chariot found in the Tiber River in the early 1890's and now on display at the British Museum, has revealed a secret trick. To increase the winning chances in the Formula One of the ancient Romans, an iron rim was mounted on the right wheel only of the two-wheeled chariot.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:21.0pt;margin-left:0in;line-height:19.5pt;background:white;vertical-align:baseline;box-sizing: inherit'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"acumin-pro",serif;color:black'>"The basic wheels were always of wood, animal hide glue, and rawhide strips (at critical joints) that tighten upon drying, like clamps," explained author Bela Sandor, professor emeritus of engineering physics at the University of Wisconsin at Madison. "Any iron tire for racing would be a very thin strip of iron on the outside of the wooden rim, best when heat-shrunk on the wood, to consolidate the whole wheel.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0in;line-height:19.5pt;background:white;vertical-align:baseline;box-sizing: inherit'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"acumin-pro",serif;color:black'>Adding the strip of iron to the right wheel improved a charioteer's chances of winning a race to roughly 80 percent, according to a study published in the latest issue of the <a href="https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/journal-of-roman-archaeology/article/tire-choices-in-roman-chariot-racing/BEF56EB676DFE2E7A501C0B8A6A0EA61"><span style='border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in'>Journal of Roman Archaeology</span></a>.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:21.0pt;margin-left:0in;line-height:19.5pt;background:white;vertical-align:baseline;box-sizing: inherit'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"acumin-pro",serif;color:black'>"The solution makes full sense in engineering thinking, ancient or modern," Sandor told Seeker.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:21.0pt;margin-left:0in;line-height:19.5pt;background:white;vertical-align:baseline;box-sizing: inherit'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"acumin-pro",serif;color:black'>Unfortunately no actual Roman racing chariots have survived. The archaeological evidence for the single-tire configuration only comes from the small toy model now on display at the British Museum.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div style='margin-bottom:21.0pt;box-sizing: inherit;font-variant:inherit;font-stretch: inherit'><p style='margin:0in;line-height:19.5pt;background:white;vertical-align:baseline'><strong><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"inherit",serif;color:black;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in'><a href="http://www.seeker.com/king-tuts-chariots-ferraris-of-ancient-egypt-1766183355.html">RELATED: King Tut's Chariots: Ferraris of Ancient Egypt</a></span></strong><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"acumin-pro",serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:21.0pt;margin-left:0in;line-height:19.5pt;background:white;vertical-align:baseline;box-sizing: inherit'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"acumin-pro",serif;color:black'>Representing a biga, a two-wheeled racing chariot driven by two horses, the hand-sized bronze model is lacking one of the two galloping horses as well as the charioteer.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:21.0pt;margin-left:0in;line-height:19.5pt;background:white;vertical-align:baseline;box-sizing: inherit'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"acumin-pro",serif;color:black'>The bronze chariot was probably a toy for a rich individual, perhaps even Emperor Nero, who, according to 1st-century historian Suetonius, used to play with toy chariots.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:21.0pt;margin-left:0in;line-height:19.5pt;background:white;vertical-align:baseline;box-sizing: inherit'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"acumin-pro",serif;color:black'>"The wheels originally rotated freely on the axle. It was made by someone who knew a lot about racing chariots," Sandor said.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:21.0pt;margin-left:0in;line-height:19.5pt;background:white;vertical-align:baseline;box-sizing: inherit'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"acumin-pro",serif;color:black'>Using the toy model and independent estimations as a guide, Sandor was able to establish the major dimensions of Roman racing chariots. He concluded that a typical Roman vehicle weighed about 25-30 kg (55-66 pounds) had a track width of about 155 cm (5 feet), a wheel diameter of about 65 cm (2.1 feet) and a pole of about 230 cm (7.5 feet).<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:21.0pt;margin-left:0in;line-height:19.5pt;background:white;vertical-align:baseline;box-sizing: inherit'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"acumin-pro",serif;color:black'>Among the details of the Tiber model, the British Museum's Judith Swaddling and Sandor noted a slightly raised rim only on the right wheel, indicating a thin iron tire reinforced the wheel.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:21.0pt;margin-left:0in;line-height:19.5pt;background:white;vertical-align:baseline;box-sizing: inherit'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"acumin-pro",serif;color:black'>"Two identical wheels would have been easier to produce for toys and real chariots alike. But a high-ranking customer would probably demand for his sophisticated toy an authentic representation of reality, if indeed that was one tire only," Sandor said.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div style='margin-bottom:21.0pt;box-sizing: inherit;font-variant:inherit;font-stretch: inherit'><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:21.0pt;margin-left:0in;line-height:19.5pt;background:white;vertical-align:baseline'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"acumin-pro",serif;color:black'>Since it was easier to guide the horses into left-turning bends, most races ran anti-clockwise.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:21.0pt;margin-left:0in;line-height:19.5pt;background:white;vertical-align:baseline;box-sizing: inherit'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"acumin-pro",serif;color:black'>"Indeed, the right side tire works best in oval-shaped arenas if the turning is always leftward," Sandor said.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:21.0pt;margin-left:0in;line-height:19.5pt;background:white;vertical-align:baseline;box-sizing: inherit'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"acumin-pro",serif;color:black'>Sandor explained that some of the Romans strengthened the right wheels only because all chariots leaned to the right and overloaded just the right wheels during the left turns.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:21.0pt;margin-left:0in;line-height:19.5pt;background:white;vertical-align:baseline;box-sizing: inherit'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"acumin-pro",serif;color:black'>"This makes total sense to everybody who understands the dynamics of a turning vehicle. It's a common sensation to people riding in a fast-turning vehicle; standing and lurching sideways in a turning bus is a good example," Sandor said.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0in;line-height:19.5pt;background:white;vertical-align:baseline;box-sizing: inherit'><strong><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"inherit",serif;color:black;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in'><a href="http://www.seeker.com/villa-owned-by-ben-hurs-rival-identified-1769515684.html">RELATED: Villa Owned by Ben-Hur's Rival Identified</a></span></strong><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"acumin-pro",serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:21.0pt;margin-left:0in;line-height:19.5pt;background:white;vertical-align:baseline;box-sizing: inherit'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"acumin-pro",serif;color:black'>Although the single iron tire configuration did not always produce a faster machine, it likely prevented wheel failure and crashes and so it was statistically superior in racetracks.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:21.0pt;margin-left:0in;line-height:19.5pt;background:white;vertical-align:baseline;box-sizing: inherit'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"acumin-pro",serif;color:black'>"Without any iron on the wheels, the right wheel was failing often and predominantly, while both wheels having iron tires tended to be safe but were seldom a winning combination," Sandor said.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:21.0pt;margin-left:0in;line-height:19.5pt;background:white;vertical-align:baseline;box-sizing: inherit'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"acumin-pro",serif;color:black'>Overall, Sandor estimated that chariots with no iron tires had a 50 percent chance to win, while vehicles with two iron tires had only 30 percent probability of success. The Ben-Hur movie chariot would have had less than 5 percent chance of rolling to victory.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:21.0pt;margin-left:0in;line-height:19.5pt;background:white;vertical-align:baseline;box-sizing: inherit'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"acumin-pro",serif;color:black'>"A racing chariot with an iron tire on the right wheel only was the best compromise in terms of safety, durability and winning probability," Sandor said. "As the finest available representation of a Roman racing chariot, the Tiber model gives us a glimpse into the Romans' probabilistic thinking for winning races and bets."<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:21.0pt;margin-left:0in;line-height:19.5pt;background:white;vertical-align:baseline;box-sizing: inherit'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"acumin-pro",serif;color:black'>According to André Veldmeijer, visiting research scholar at the American University in Cairo, the study reveals how much more there is to learn about the design and strategy behind ancient chariot racing. As he told Seeker, "Chariots, despite the numerous studies and increasing scholarly attention, have not yet revealed all their secrets, as this study clearly shows."<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:21.0pt;margin-left:0in;line-height:19.5pt;background:white;vertical-align:baseline'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"acumin-pro",serif;color:black'>End END<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal>Sent from <a href="https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986">Mail</a> for Windows 10</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div style='mso-element:para-border-div;border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='border:none;padding:0in'><b>From: </b><a href="mailto:richard.ewald@gmail.com">Richard Ewald</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Saturday, September 5, 2020 11:45 AM<br><b>To: </b><a href="mailto:manifold@telus.net">Harold Manifold</a><br><b>Cc: </b><a href="mailto:healeyguy@aol.com">Perry Small</a>; <a href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net">healeys</a><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [Healeys] Taking door handle apart</p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>”Hammer reseach” reminds me of an inscription found on the wall of a Roman charriot shop ”<strong><span style='font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#222222'>Nolite id cogere, cape malleum majorem” which translates to: </span></strong><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#222222'>Don't force it, get a bigger hammer. <br><br></span></b><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>On Sep 5, 2020, at 8:05 AM, Harold Manifold via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:5.0pt;margin-right:.5in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:.5in'>Perry,<br><br>Thank-you for donating a door handle to advancing Austin Healey research.<br><br>Harold <br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Perry Small [mailto:healeyguy@aol.com] <br>Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2020 6:20 AM<br>To: Harold Manifold<br>Cc: healeys<br>Subject: Taking door handle apart<br><br>Sometimes the only way to get to an answer is a bit of hammer research. <br>Must have about 40 pitted nasty handles in the bin so why not find out what<br>the middle sized pin is (or was). Picked a really corroded one to start<br>with. Large tube knocked out fairly easily. Same with the small diameter<br>pin. Middle size pin required a bit more, a drill. Small hole first to see<br>if indeed it was peened on the ends. Increased hole size and fiddled with<br>moving the pin and parts. Would not come apart until the hole was full pin<br>diameter. Does not appear to have been preened just corroded in place. <br>P<br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html<br>Suggested annual donation $12.75<br><br>Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive<br><br>Healeys@autox.team.net<br>http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys<br><br>Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/richard.ewald@gmail.com<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html>