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<div style="color:black;font:10pt arial;">The best price I could find for Valvoline VR-1 20w50 on Wallmart's site was $7.03/quart & it was shipping from "Zoro", who ever that is. The next best price was $9.11/quart shipping from Speedway. </div>
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From: Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net><br clear="none">
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Sent: Fri, May 1, 2020 11:10 pm<br clear="none">
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Oil additives -- great informaton. Thanks.<br clear="none">
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Walmart had no problem shipping me a crap-ton of Valvoline VR-1
20W-50; still don't understand why the outfit in the Midwest I
bought from before refused to ship to me. The Valvoline saga has
some strange twists, a few years ago my favorite parts house 'had to
pull it off the shelves;' I never got an explanation there, either.
I haven't seen it on any parts house shelves since, but as long as
Wallymart will ship for free @ less than $4/qt I'll be happy.<br clear="none">
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<div class="yiv0208102013moz-cite-prefix">On 5/1/2020 10:30 AM, wwycoffbn7--- via
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<div class="yiv0208102013MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;line-height:normal;"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;color:black;">Hi, </span></div>
<div class="yiv0208102013MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal;"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;color:black;">Thanks
all.<span style=""> </span>As is
usual there is a lot of good discourse and experience
shared by the list. <span style=""> </span>What
triggered my question on oil and oil additives was the
observation of a bottle of Red Line 10W40 image that
did not display the usual statement that it contains
ZDDP. <span style=""> </span>For
decades I have used that oil as it carries proper oil
pressure, suites the climate, etc. <span style=""> </span>However, if Red
Line stopped including ZDDP, I would find another oil.
<span style=""> </span>I also
recalled that some time back, Bob Spidell having to
find a new outlet for Valvoline 20W50 as it seemed
that it no longer cleared some California rule
changes. <span style=""> </span>I
wondered it this happened to Red Line.</span></div>
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<div class="yiv0208102013MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal;"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;color:black;">So,
I sent off an inquiry to Red Line and not getting a
rapid response sent one to our Healey group. <span style=""> </span>The Healey group
was much faster to respond. <span style=""> </span>While most
business are slowed down by COVID-19, a Red Line
response did come. <span style=""> </span>The
assurance is that Red Line Motor Oil 10W40 (SKU 11404)
contains good ZDDP levels, plenty for an Austin
Healey's flat tappet cam and lifters; 1225ppm zinc and
more importantly 1375ppm phosphorus.<br clear="none" style="">
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<div class="yiv0208102013MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal;"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;">As to their break in additive, their Web site
indicates that a half bottle is enough to add to a
conventional oil.<span style=""> </span>It
also has bit of sulfur, 16.6 grams.<span style=""> </span>I have to
wonder if adding it to their 10W40 could result in too
much.<span style=""> </span>I am
just not inclined to experiment.</span></div>
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<div class="yiv0208102013MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal;"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;color:black;">The
3000’s owner’s manual only mentions 30 weight oil,
even for tropical heat.<span style=""> </span>However, the “Work shop Manual” (the
Green Book) has a much more expansive table that
promotes a lot of weights depending on the
manufacturer.<span style=""> </span>The
aspect that modern oils are a bit different than those
available when the book came out adds a bit more
uncertainty.<span style=""> </span></span></div>
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<div class="yiv0208102013MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal;"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;color:black;">I
am confident using the 10W40.<span style=""> </span>I used 10W50 in
my Triumph, but it was an air-cooled engine and was
REAL hard to start in freezing weather.<span style=""> </span>There were also
a lot of reputable recommendations that led me to Red
Line’s 10W40.<span style=""> </span>The
oil pressure is proper, so I don’t see an upside for
me to use a heavier oil.</span></div>
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<div class="yiv0208102013MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal;"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;color:black;">Many
thanks to the folks who responded.<span style=""> </span></span></div>
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