<div dir="auto">Amazon -$76.11 (?) for 3 5gal  VR 1 20/50.</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, May 2, 2020, 9:33 AM warthodson--- via Healeys <<a href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div style="color:black;font:10pt arial">The best price I could find for Valvoline VR-1 20w50 on Wallmart's site was $7.03/quart & it was shipping from "Zoro", who ever that is. The next best price was $9.11/quart shipping from Speedway. </div>

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From: Bob Spidell <<a href="mailto:bspidell@comcast.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">bspidell@comcast.net</a>><br clear="none">
To: <a href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">healeys@autox.team.net</a><br clear="none">
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Subject: Re: [Healeys] Oil additives -- great informaton. Thanks.<br clear="none">
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    Walmart had no problem shipping me a crap-ton of Valvoline VR-1
    20W-50; still don't understand why the outfit in the Midwest I
    bought from before refused to ship to me.  The Valvoline saga has
    some strange twists, a few years ago my favorite parts house 'had to
    pull it off the shelves;' I never got an explanation there, either. 
    I haven't seen it on any parts house shelves since, but as long as
    Wallymart will ship for free @ less than $4/qt I'll be happy.<br clear="none">
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<div>On 5/1/2020 10:30 AM, wwycoffbn7--- via
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                  all.<span>  </span>As is
                  usual there is a lot of good discourse and experience
                  shared by the list. <span> </span>What
                  triggered my question on oil and oil additives was the
                  observation of a bottle of Red Line 10W40 image that
                  did not display the usual statement that it contains
                  ZDDP. <span> </span>For
                  decades I have used that oil as it carries proper oil
                  pressure, suites the climate, etc. <span> </span>However, if Red
                  Line stopped including ZDDP, I would find another oil.
                  <span> </span>I also
                  recalled that some time back, Bob Spidell having to
                  find a new outlet for Valvoline 20W50 as it seemed
                  that it no longer cleared some California rule
                  changes. <span> </span>I
                  wondered it this happened to Red Line.</span></div>


              

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<div style="margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:'Times New                   Roman',serif;color:black">So,
                  I sent off an inquiry to Red Line and not getting a
                  rapid response sent one to our Healey group. <span> </span>The Healey group
                  was much faster to respond. <span> </span>While most
                  business are slowed down by COVID-19, a Red Line
                  response did come. <span> </span>The
                  assurance is that Red Line Motor Oil 10W40 (SKU 11404)
                  contains good ZDDP levels, plenty for an Austin
                  Healey's flat tappet cam and lifters; 1225ppm zinc and
                  more importantly 1375ppm phosphorus.<br clear="none">
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<div style="margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:'Times New                   Roman',serif">As to their break in additive, their Web site
                  indicates that a half bottle is enough to add to a
                  conventional oil.<span>  </span>It
                  also has bit of sulfur, 16.6 grams.<span>  </span>I have to
                  wonder if adding it to their 10W40 could result in too
                  much.<span>  </span>I am
                  just not inclined to experiment.</span></div>


              

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                  3000’s owner’s manual only mentions 30 weight oil,
                  even for tropical heat.<span>  </span>However, the “Work shop Manual” (the
                  Green Book) has a much more expansive table that
                  promotes a lot of weights depending on the
                  manufacturer.<span>  </span>The
                  aspect that modern oils are a bit different than those
                  available when the book came out adds a bit more
                  uncertainty.<span>  </span></span></div>


              

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                  am confident using the 10W40.<span>  </span>I used 10W50 in
                  my Triumph, but it was an air-cooled engine and was
                  REAL hard to start in freezing weather.<span>  </span>There were also
                  a lot of reputable recommendations that led me to Red
                  Line’s 10W40.<span>  </span>The
                  oil pressure is proper, so I don’t see an upside for
                  me to use a heavier oil.</span></div>


              

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