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--></style></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink="#954F72"><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>Amazon has VR 1 20\50 for $76.71 . 3-5gal ct.(15qts)</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Sent from <a href="https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986">Mail</a> for Windows 10</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div style='mso-element:para-border-div;border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='border:none;padding:0in'><b>From: </b><a href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net">warthodson--- via Healeys</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Saturday, May 2, 2020 9:33 AM<br><b>To: </b><a href="mailto:bspidell@comcast.net">bspidell@comcast.net</a>; <a href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [Healeys] Oil additives -- great informaton. Thanks.</p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><div id=yiv0208102013><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>The best price I could find for Valvoline VR-1 20w50 on Wallmart's site was $7.03/quart & it was shipping from "Zoro", who ever that is. The next best price was $9.11/quart shipping from Speedway. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Gary Hodson<br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net><br>To: healeys@autox.team.net<br>Sent: Fri, May 1, 2020 11:10 pm<br>Subject: Re: [Healeys] Oil additives -- great informaton. Thanks.<o:p></o:p></span></p><div id=yiv0208102013yqt13193><div id=yiv0208102013><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Walmart had no problem shipping me a crap-ton of Valvoline VR-1 20W-50; still don't understand why the outfit in the Midwest I bought from before refused to ship to me. The Valvoline saga has some strange twists, a few years ago my favorite parts house 'had to pull it off the shelves;' I never got an explanation there, either. I haven't seen it on any parts house shelves since, but as long as Wallymart will ship for free @ less than $4/qt I'll be happy.<br><br>Bob<br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p><div id=yiv0208102013yqt73128><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>On 5/1/2020 10:30 AM, wwycoffbn7--- via Healeys wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div id=yiv0208102013yqt06343><div><div><div id=yiv0208102013><div><div><div style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black'>Hi, </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black'>Thanks all. As is usual there is a lot of good discourse and experience shared by the list. What triggered my question on oil and oil additives was the observation of a bottle of Red Line 10W40 image that did not display the usual statement that it contains ZDDP. For decades I have used that oil as it carries proper oil pressure, suites the climate, etc. However, if Red Line stopped including ZDDP, I would find another oil. I also recalled that some time back, Bob Spidell having to find a new outlet for Valvoline 20W50 as it seemed that it no longer cleared some California rule changes. I wondered it this happened to Red Line.</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black'>So, I sent off an inquiry to Red Line and not getting a rapid response sent one to our Healey group. The Healey group was much faster to respond. While most business are slowed down by COVID-19, a Red Line response did come. The assurance is that Red Line Motor Oil 10W40 (SKU 11404) contains good ZDDP levels, plenty for an Austin Healey's flat tappet cam and lifters; 1225ppm zinc and more importantly 1375ppm phosphorus.</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black'>As to their break in additive, their Web site indicates that a half bottle is enough to add to a conventional oil. It also has bit of sulfur, 16.6 grams. I have to wonder if adding it to their 10W40 could result in too much. I am just not inclined to experiment.</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black'>The 3000’s owner’s manual only mentions 30 weight oil, even for tropical heat. However, the “Work shop Manual” (the Green Book) has a much more expansive table that promotes a lot of weights depending on the manufacturer. The aspect that modern oils are a bit different than those available when the book came out adds a bit more uncertainty. </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black'>I am confident using the 10W40. I used 10W50 in my Triumph, but it was an air-cooled engine and was REAL hard to start in freezing weather. There were also a lot of reputable recommendations that led me to Red Line’s 10W40. The oil pressure is proper, so I don’t see an upside for me to use a heavier oil.</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black'>Many thanks to the folks who responded. </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black'>Bill</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>_______________________________________________<br>Support Team.Net <a href="http://www.team.net/donate.html" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br>Suggested annual donation $12.75<br><br>Archive: <a href="http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys </a><a href="http://autox.team.net/archive" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/archive</a><br><br><a href="mailto:Healeys@autox.team.net" target="_blank">Healeys@autox.team.net</a><br><a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys</a><br><br>Unsubscribe/Manage: <a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/warthodson@aol.com" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/warthodson@aol.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html>