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<span>My 3000 does exactly the same thing with oil pressure after the new oil pump. I just ignore it.</span></div>
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1. Oil Pressure Relief Valve Question (jpaynepbr@cox.net)<br>
2. Re: Does synthetic oil leak more? (Ron Fine)<br>
3. Re: Does synthetic oil leak more? (warthodson@aol.com)<br>
4. Re: Does synthetic oil leak more? (Bob Spidell)<br>
5. Re: 100 Heater Tap Stem Repair (Bob Spidell)<br>
6. FW: Re: Does synthetic oil leak more? (gradea1@charter.net)<br>
7. Re: 100 Heater Tap Stem Repair (Michael Salter)<br>
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Message: 1<br>
Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2020 09:40:45 -0800<br>
From: <jpaynepbr@cox.net><br>
To: "'Healeys'" <healeys@autox.team.net><br>
Subject: [Healeys] Oil Pressure Relief Valve Question<br>
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My recently rebuilt AH 3000 with new oil pump is putting out 100 psi of oil<br>
pressure at startup and is at an easy 50 to 60 psi at idle when heated up.<br>
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It is my understanding that the oil pressure release valve is set to not<br>
exceed 60 psi?<br>
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I pulled it out, and my question is, is the spring supposed to sit down<br>
inside the machined hole in the plug or is the spring supposed to sit on the<br>
lip of the plug and not go down into the hole.<br>
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Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2020 09:23:41 -0800<br>
From: "Ron Fine" <ronfineesq@earthlink.net><br>
To: "Jean Caron" <vintage_roadster_restoration@hotmail.com>, "Harold<br>
Manifold" <manifold@telus.net>, <warthodson@aol.com>,<br>
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Subject: Re: [Healeys] Does synthetic oil leak more?<br>
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I was sure I was going to be the first one to have a leak free Healey when I rebuilt my engine/transmission in 2004. It was leak free for the first year or so, but, after that I have the usual drips. I keep a piece of cardboard under the car to keep track
of the leaks. I assume that age and use just opens up the leaks over time.<br>
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Ron Fine<br>
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From: Jean Caron <br>
Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2020 8:57 AM<br>
To: Harold Manifold ; warthodson@aol.com ; 050.rpl@gmail.com ; healeys@autox.team.net
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Subject: Re: [Healeys] Does synthetic oil leak more?<br>
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Harold,<br>
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It is possible to have a leak free Austin-Healey, once the oil has all drained out!!!!!!!<br>
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Jean<br>
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From: Harold Manifold<br>
Sent: January 11, 2020 10:53 AM<br>
To: warthodson@aol.com; 050.rpl@gmail.com; healeys@autox.team.net<br>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Does synthetic oil leak more?<br>
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Hello,<br>
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All of your observations are a factor. Here are some comments from an article about synthetic oil leaks:<br>
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<br>
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Synthetic oil WILL NOT cause leaks. It may however make already worn-out gaskets/seals more evident, by leaking past them, and/or cleaning any sludge and other gunk that was sealing the existing leak. This is because Synthetic oil has much better cleaning properties,
flows much better than conventional oil, and hence also lubricates much better than conventional oil (This is a good thing).<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
I use a GL-4 synthetic gear oil in my transmission and it leaks. Believe it not not one of the leak mechanisms is from the interior along the bolts and drips from the bolt head on the exterior. I am changing the gaskets on my transmission and trying bonded
sealing neoprene washers on the fasteners.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
I may be pursuing the impossible dream of a leak free Healey.... Harold<br>
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From: warthodson@aol.com [<a href="mailto:warthodson@aol.com">mailto:warthodson@aol.com</a>]
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Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2020 7:24 AM<br>
To: manifold@telus.net; 050.rpl@gmail.com; healeys@autox.team.net<br>
Subject: Does synthetic oil leak more?<br>
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I am not a leak expert, but I find this hard to understand. For there to be a leak there has to be a hole. Is it because the synthetic oil molecules are smaller than the non-synthetic oil molecules? Given that the "holes" come in different sizes this seems
illogical. Is it because the synthetic oil is more slippery? How is that measured? How much more slippery is it?
<br>
<br>
Gary Hodson<br>
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-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Harold Manifold <manifold@telus.net><br>
To: 'R. Lindsay' <050.rpl@gmail.com>; 'Healey List' <healeys@autox.team.net><br>
Sent: Fri, Jan 10, 2020 7:55 pm<br>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Rear Axle Oil<br>
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The biggest difference you will notice with synthetic gear oils is they leak<br>
more than non-synthetic. <br>
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Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2020 18:02:07 +0000 (UTC)<br>
From: warthodson@aol.com<br>
To: ronfineesq@earthlink.net,<br>
vintage_roadster_restoration@hotmail.com, manifold@telus.net,<br>
050.rpl@gmail.com, healeys@autox.team.net<br>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Does synthetic oil leak more?<br>
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All I am saying is I find a lot of this hard to believe. For example:?Synthetic oil has much better cleaning properties, flows much better than conventional oil, and hence also lubricates much better than conventional oil. "Much better" sounds good but is not
very scientific. How much better, scientifically speaking? Just changing oil regularly does what you are taking about & none of it has to do with leaking unless you are counting on "sludge & gunk" to plug the leaking holes. Good Luck! Careful?rebuilding including
paying close attention to applying sealants where applicable, like bolt/screw threads when they are in contact?with the oil will make a big difference. Re-tightening all the bolts after a break-in period will also assist.?Gary Hodson<br>
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?From: Harold Manifold?<br>
Sent: January 11, 2020 10:53 AM<br>
To: warthodson@aol.com; 050.rpl@gmail.com; healeys@autox.team.net<br>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Does synthetic oil leak more? ?Hello, ? All of your observations are a factor. Here are some comments from an article about synthetic oil leaks: ? Synthetic oil WILL NOT cause leaks. It may however make already worn-out gaskets/seals
more evident, by leaking past them, and/or cleaning any sludge and other gunk that was sealing the existing leak. This is because Synthetic oil has much better cleaning properties, flows much better than conventional oil, and hence also lubricates much better
than conventional oil (This is a good thing). ? I use a GL-4 synthetic gear oil in my transmission and it leaks. Believe it not not one of the leak mechanisms is from the interior along the bolts and drips from the bolt head on the exterior. I am changing
the gaskets on my transmission and trying bonded sealing neoprene washers on the fasteners. ? I may be pursuing the impossible dream of a leak free Healey.... Harold ? From: warthodson@aol.com [<a href="mailto:warthodson@aol.com">mailto:warthodson@aol.com</a>]
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Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2020 7:24 AM<br>
To: manifold@telus.net; 050.rpl@gmail.com; healeys@autox.team.net<br>
Subject: Does synthetic oil leak more? I am not a leak expert, but I find this hard to understand. For there to be a leak there has to be a hole. Is it because the synthetic oil molecules are smaller than the non-synthetic oil molecules? Given that the "holes"
come in different sizes this seems illogical. Is it because the synthetic oil is more slippery? How is that measured? How much more slippery is it?? Gary Hodson -----Original Message-----<br>
From: Harold Manifold <manifold@telus.net><br>
To: 'R. Lindsay' <050.rpl@gmail.com>; 'Healey List' <healeys@autox.team.net><br>
Sent: Fri, Jan 10, 2020 7:55 pm<br>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Rear Axle Oil <br>
The biggest difference you will notice with synthetic gear oils is they leak<br>
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Message: 4<br>
Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2020 09:58:10 -0800<br>
From: Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net><br>
To: healeys@autox.team.net<br>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Does synthetic oil leak more?<br>
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I was leak free for the first 60 years ...<br>
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On 1/11/2020 9:23 AM, Ron Fine wrote:<br>
> I was sure I was going to be the first one to have a leak free Healey <br>
> when I rebuilt my engine/transmission in 2004. It was leak free for <br>
> the first year or so, but, after that I have the usual drips.? I keep <br>
> a piece of cardboard under the car to keep track of the leaks.? I <br>
> assume that age and use just opens up the leaks over time.<br>
> Ron Fine<br>
> *From:* Jean Caron<br>
> *Sent:* Saturday, January 11, 2020 8:57 AM<br>
> *To:* Harold Manifold ; warthodson@aol.com ; 050.rpl@gmail.com ; <br>
> healeys@autox.team.net<br>
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Does synthetic oil leak more?<br>
><br>
> Harold,<br>
><br>
> It is possible to have a leak free Austin-Healey, once the oil has all <br>
> drained out!!!!!!!<br>
><br>
> Jean<br>
><br>
> Sent from Mail <<a href="https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986">https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986</a>> for
<br>
> Windows 10<br>
><br>
> *From: *Harold Manifold<br>
> *Sent: *January 11, 2020 10:53 AM<br>
> *To: *warthodson@aol.com; 050.rpl@gmail.com; healeys@autox.team.net<br>
> *Subject: *Re: [Healeys] Does synthetic oil leak more?<br>
><br>
> Hello,<br>
><br>
> All of your observations are a factor. Here are some comments from an <br>
> article about synthetic oil leaks:<br>
><br>
> Synthetic oil WILL NOT cause leaks. It may however make already <br>
> worn-out gaskets/seals more evident, by leaking past them, and/or <br>
> cleaning any sludge and other gunk that was sealing the existing leak. <br>
> This is because Synthetic oil has much better cleaning properties, <br>
> flows much better than conventional oil, and hence also lubricates <br>
> much better than conventional oil (This is a good thing).<br>
><br>
> I use a GL-4 synthetic gear oil in my transmission and it leaks. <br>
> Believe it not not one of the leak mechanisms is from the interior <br>
> along the bolts and drips from the bolt head on the exterior. I am <br>
> changing the gaskets on my transmission and trying bonded sealing <br>
> neoprene washers on the fasteners.<br>
><br>
> I may be pursuing the impossible dream of a leak free Healey.... Harold<br>
><br>
> *From:*warthodson@aol.com [<a href="mailto:warthodson@aol.com">mailto:warthodson@aol.com</a>]<br>
> *Sent:* Saturday, January 11, 2020 7:24 AM<br>
> *To:* manifold@telus.net; 050.rpl@gmail.com; healeys@autox.team.net<br>
> *Subject:* Does synthetic oil leak more?<br>
><br>
> I am not a leak expert, but I find this hard to understand. For there <br>
> to be a leak there has to be a hole. Is it because the synthetic oil <br>
> molecules are smaller than the non-synthetic oil molecules? Given that <br>
> the "holes" come in different sizes this seems illogical. Is it <br>
> because the synthetic oil is more slippery? How is that measured? How <br>
> much more slippery is it?<br>
><br>
> Gary Hodson<br>
><br>
> -----Original Message-----<br>
> From: Harold Manifold <manifold@telus.net><br>
> To: 'R. Lindsay' <050.rpl@gmail.com>; 'Healey List' <br>
> <healeys@autox.team.net><br>
> Sent: Fri, Jan 10, 2020 7:55 pm<br>
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Rear Axle Oil<br>
><br>
><br>
> The biggest difference you will notice with synthetic gear oils is <br>
> they leak<br>
> more than non-synthetic.<br>
><br>
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Message: 5<br>
Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2020 10:07:40 -0800<br>
From: Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net><br>
To: healeys@autox.team.net<br>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100 Heater Tap Stem Repair<br>
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Just to be clear, the 'brass stem' is the outlet tube?<br>
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On 1/12/2020 8:46 AM, Steven Kingsbury via Healeys wrote:<br>
> Great to know and thank you from all the 100 owners! You never know <br>
> when we may need this repair!<br>
> Steven Kingsbury<br>
><br>
><br>
> On January 12, 2020 at 7:25 AM, Michael Salter <br>
> <michaelsalter@gmail.com> wrote:<br>
><br>
>> For anyone interested I have, after several failed attempts, figured <br>
>> out a repair scheme to repair the commonly broken off brass stem of <br>
>> 100 heater valves.<br>
>> I have also purchased the necessary tooling to produce new heater <br>
>> valve knobs.<br>
>> image.png<br>
>> Please don't throw those old valves out ...<br>
>> Contact me off line for more information.<br>
>><br>
>> M<br>
>><br>
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Message: 6<br>
Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2020 10:23:10 -0800<br>
From: gradea1@charter.net<br>
To: "'healeys@autox.team.net'" <healeys@autox.team.net><br>
Subject: [Healeys] FW: Re: Does synthetic oil leak more?<br>
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Food for thought<br>
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-----------------------------------------From: gradea1@charter.net<br>
To: "warthodson@aol.com"<br>
Cc: <br>
Sent: Sunday January 12 2020 10:18:59AM<br>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Does synthetic oil leak more?<br>
<br>
Found this info by looking for the molecule size of synthetic oil.<br>
Most conventional oil is about 2 microns and that is why we set our<br>
bearing clearance at .002 to allow the oil to pass. Early machining<br>
does not match what we have today with the close tolerances we can now<br>
achieve...so the finer synthetic runs out. If I run Redline in my<br>
Healey trans it ends up on the floor. Regular 30W stays in, and only<br>
leaves a quarter size puddle. Used lots of good sealant but that wont<br>
keep the new oils in if they are good soldiers: <br>
<br>
"The main difference between synthetic motor oil and conventional<br>
motor oil is found in their molecular structure. In a mineral oil, the<br>
molecules come from organic, natural materials, and as we know, nature<br>
isn't always consistent. There can sometimes be a few oddball<br>
molecules in mineral oils. Synthetic oils [1], on the other hand, were<br>
created by scientists in a lab. The molecules are uniform, and they<br>
line up like good soldiers inside of your engine." See illustration<br>
attached- Hank<br>
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----------------------------------------- From: "warthodson--- via<br>
Healeys" <br>
To: ronfineesq@earthlink.net,<br>
vintage_roadster_restoration@hotmail.com, manifold@telus.net,<br>
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Sent: Sunday January 12 2020 9:44:13AM<br>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Does synthetic oil leak more?<br>
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All I am saying is I find a lot of this hard to believe. For<br>
example: Synthetic oil has much better cleaning properties, flows much<br>
better than conventional oil, and hence also lubricates much better<br>
than conventional oil. "Much better" sounds good but is not very<br>
scientific. How much better, scientifically speaking? Just changing<br>
oil regularly does what you are taking about & none of it has to do<br>
with leaking unless you are counting on "sludge & gunk" to plug the<br>
leaking holes. Good Luck! Careful rebuilding including paying close<br>
attention to applying sealants where applicable, like bolt/screw<br>
threads when they are in contact with the oil will make a big<br>
difference. Re-tightening all the bolts after a break-in period will<br>
also assist. Gary Hodson <br>
<br>
FROM: Harold Manifold <br>
SENT: January 11, 2020 10:53 AM<br>
TO: warthodson@aol.com; 050.rpl@gmail.com; healeys@autox.team.net<br>
SUBJECT: Re: [Healeys] Does synthetic oil leak more? Hello, <br>
All of your observations are a factor. Here are some comments from an<br>
article about synthetic oil leaks: Synthetic oil WILL NOT cause<br>
leaks. It may however make already worn-out gaskets/seals more<br>
evident, by leaking past them, and/or cleaning any sludge and other<br>
gunk that was sealing the existing leak. This is because Synthetic oil<br>
has much better cleaning properties, flows much better than<br>
conventional oil, and hence also lubricates much better than<br>
conventional oil (This is a good thing). I use a GL-4 synthetic<br>
gear oil in my transmission and it leaks. Believe it not not one of<br>
the leak mechanisms is from the interior along the bolts and drips<br>
from the bolt head on the exterior. I am changing the gaskets on my<br>
transmission and trying bonded sealing neoprene washers on the<br>
fasteners. I may be pursuing the impossible dream of a leak free<br>
Healey.... Harold FROM: warthodson@aol.com<br>
[<a href="mailto:warthodson@aol.com">mailto:warthodson@aol.com</a>] <br>
SENT: Saturday, January 11, 2020 7:24 AM<br>
TO: manifold@telus.net; 050.rpl@gmail.com; healeys@autox.team.net<br>
SUBJECT: Does synthetic oil leak more? I am not a leak expert, but<br>
I find this hard to understand. For there to be a leak there has to be<br>
a hole. Is it because the synthetic oil molecules are smaller than the<br>
non-synthetic oil molecules? Given that the "holes" come in different<br>
sizes this seems illogical. Is it because the synthetic oil is more<br>
slippery? How is that measured? How much more slippery is it? Gary<br>
Hodson -----Original Message-----<br>
From: Harold Manifold <br>
To: 'R. Lindsay' ; 'Healey List' <br>
Sent: Fri, Jan 10, 2020 7:55 pm<br>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Rear Axle Oil <br>
The biggest difference you will notice with synthetic gear oils is<br>
they leak<br>
more than non-synthetic. <br>
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Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2020 13:37:23 -0500<br>
From: Michael Salter <michaelsalter@gmail.com><br>
To: Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net><br>
Cc: healeys@autox.team.net<br>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100 Heater Tap Stem Repair<br>
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No Bob, I'm referring to the brass shaft that the handle is mounted on.<br>
These have a tendency to break off just below the knob where the shaft is<br>
reduced to a 3/16" square section, particularly when Channelocks are<br>
applied.<br>
<br>
M<br>
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On Sun, Jan 12, 2020, 1:16 PM Bob Spidell, <bspidell@comcast.net> wrote:<br>
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> Just to be clear, the 'brass stem' is the outlet tube?<br>
><br>
><br>
> On 1/12/2020 8:46 AM, Steven Kingsbury via Healeys wrote:<br>
><br>
> Great to know and thank you from all the 100 owners! You never know when<br>
> we may need this repair!<br>
> Steven Kingsbury<br>
><br>
><br>
> On January 12, 2020 at 7:25 AM, Michael Salter <michaelsalter@gmail.com><br>
> <michaelsalter@gmail.com> wrote:<br>
><br>
> For anyone interested I have, after several failed attempts, figured out a<br>
> repair scheme to repair the commonly broken off brass stem of 100 heater<br>
> valves.<br>
> I have also purchased the necessary tooling to produce new heater valve<br>
> knobs.<br>
> [image: image.png]<br>
> Please don't throw those old valves out ...<br>
> Contact me off line for more information.<br>
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