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        <div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">I was a railroad engineer until I retired 3 years ago.  I got to play with the big toys.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Mike MacLean<br></div><div><br></div>
        
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                    On Monday, January 6, 2020, 7:11:53 AM PST, Michael Oritt <michael.oritt@gmail.com> wrote:
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                <div><div id="yiv1081749835"><div><div>I am not an engineer but I did play one when I was a kid with a Lionel train set.<div><br clear="none"></div><div>Best--Michael Oritt</div></div><br clear="none"><div class="yiv1081749835yqt9278426402" id="yiv1081749835yqt54106"><div class="yiv1081749835gmail_quote"><div class="yiv1081749835gmail_attr" dir="ltr">On Mon, Jan 6, 2020, 12:02 AM Mirek Sharp <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:m.g.sharp@sympatico.ca" target="_blank" href="mailto:m.g.sharp@sympatico.ca">m.g.sharp@sympatico.ca</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"></div><blockquote class="yiv1081749835gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div lang="EN-CA"><div class="yiv1081749835m_-5178356487144658690WordSection1"><p class="yiv1081749835MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">Thanks Michael,<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="yiv1081749835MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="yiv1081749835MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">I have wondered about the metallurgy around chroming wheels, but have never heard it from an engineer.  I have heard that opinion about the gold plated wheels on the Earls Court show car, but again, I think it was more speculation than informed opinion from an engineer.  It’s a moot point for me as I prefer the painted wheels. <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="yiv1081749835MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="yiv1081749835MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">Cheers,  Mirek<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="yiv1081749835MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="yiv1081749835MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;" lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;" lang="EN-US"> Michael Oritt [mailto:<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com">michael.oritt@gmail.com</a>] <br clear="none"><b>Sent:</b> January-05-20 4:53 PM<br clear="none"><b>To:</b> Mirek Sharp<br clear="none"><b>Cc:</b> Max Byers; Austin Healey<br clear="none"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Wheels/Tires<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="yiv1081749835MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div><p class="yiv1081749835MsoNormal"><span style="color:#3333ff;">Mirek--<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="yiv1081749835MsoNormal"><span style="color:#3333ff;"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="yiv1081749835MsoNormal"><span style="color:#3333ff;">In response to your question as to whether anyone has experienced total wheel failure, many years ago I had a 1960 BN7 that came with chrome wire wheels, and though I don't remember whether the wheels had 48 or 60 spokes I do know that on several occasions I experienced broken spokes.  Things never got to the point of total wheel failure because invariably the broken spoke would poke a hole in the inner tube and when I had to replace the tube I also replaced the spoke.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="yiv1081749835MsoNormal"><span style="color:#3333ff;"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="yiv1081749835MsoNormal"><span style="color:#3333ff;">As opposed to today's stainless steel spokes back then I believe that chromed wire wheels had plated spokes and the chroming process embrittled the spokes, increasing their vulnerability to breaking.  FWIW I have never broken a spoke on the 20 year old 60 spoke chromed Daytons I have had on my present car.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><p class="yiv1081749835MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div><p class="yiv1081749835MsoNormal">On Sun, Jan 5, 2020 at 10:05 AM Mirek Sharp <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:m.g.sharp@sympatico.ca" target="_blank" href="mailto:m.g.sharp@sympatico.ca">m.g.sharp@sympatico.ca</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm;"><p class="yiv1081749835MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;">I have wondered how many people drive with broken spokes and do not even realize it.  I have only had experience with a few broken spokes, one on my Healey and one on my TC (both rear wheels), and both were broken right where the spoke enters the hub, and were not easily noticed.  One really has to use the time-honoured method of tapping the spokes with a spanner or screwdriver to listen to the ring, or notice them during a tyre change.  It is quite possible the many healeys, especially those owned/driven by less mechanically-minded souls, are driving around with a broken spoke or two.  I'm no engineer, but I would not be surprised if this has little effect on the overall safety of the wheel for normal driving.  Does anyone know of a complete wheel  failure from normal driving?  I have seen only one.  When still an apprentice, an E-Type was towed into the shop and one rear wheel had most of its spokes sheared off at the hub (a 72 spoke chrome Dunlop).  No idea how it happened.  Cheers,  Mirek<br clear="none"><br clear="none">-----Original Message-----<br clear="none">From: Healeys [mailto:<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>] On Behalf Of Max Byers<br clear="none">Sent: January-04-20 12:29 PM<br clear="none">To: <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a><br clear="none">Subject: Re: [Healeys] Wheels/Tires<br clear="none"><br clear="none">"A few broken spokes in 106,000 miles is pretty good, I think.  How many people besides you and me put that kind of mileage on their Healey now, Bob?  And some of those broken spokes were in the days before Allen Hendrix was truing and balancing my wheels.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">-----Original Message-----<br clear="none">From: Healeys [mailto:<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>] On Behalf Of Bob Spidell<br clear="none">Sent: Saturday, January 4, 2020 11:50 AM<br clear="none">To: <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a><br clear="none">Subject: Re: [Healeys] Wheels/Tires<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Hmmmmm.  To me 'a few broken spokes' and 'more than adequate' is a <br clear="none">contradiction in terms.<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none">On 1/4/2020 7:54 AM, Max Byers wrote:<br clear="none">> Bruce, here is my input:<br clear="none">><br clear="none">> I do not know anything about Dunlop/Moss wheels.  I bought five 60-spoke 15x4.5 Dayton chrome wheels with stainless spokes from British Wire Wheel in 1991, and they are still on my BJ8 with 106,000 miles on them now.  I've had a few broken spokes over the years, but fortunately I am relatively close to Allen Hendrix.  He keeps them trued and balanced whenever I need replacement spokes or new tires.<br clear="none">>   <br clear="none">> It is only my personal opinion and preference, but while 72 spoke wheels are stronger, they are also have a "busier" appearance.  My experience with the 60-spokers tells me that they are more than adequate.<br clear="none">><br clear="none">> I have always used 165 x 15 tires, again personal preference.  As to which brand, I use whichever tire is available to Hendrix Wire Wheel.  At one point it was Kumhos, and I really liked those tires.  They were not available at my last tire change, so I currently have Nexens.  So far, with 5 years and 10,000 miles on them they are also proving to be a very good tire.<br clear="none">><br clear="none">> Steve Byers<br clear="none">> HBJ8L/36666<br clear="none">> BJ8 Registry<br clear="none">> AHCA Delegate at Large<br clear="none">> Havelock, NC  USA<br clear="none">><br clear="none">> -----Original Message-----<br clear="none">> From: Healeys [mailto:<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>] On Behalf Of Bruce Peters<br clear="none">> Sent: Saturday, January 4, 2020 12:26 AM<br clear="none">> To: <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a><br clear="none">> Subject: [Healeys] Wheels/Tires<br clear="none">><br clear="none">> Hi all,<br clear="none">> I’m getting closer to having to buy wheels and tires for my ‘67 BJ8. When I say closer I mean a year or so but I like to plan ahead. My car will not be concours correct or be entered in any car judging at shows. It’ll be a driver that won’t see any track time of any sort. That being said I’m wondering what everyone’s thoughts are on wheels and tires. I plan to put chrome wire wheels on. I don’t want Minilite’s. So, here are my questions:<br clear="none">><br clear="none">> 1. Dunlop style(e.g. Moss) versus Dayton(e.g. Hendrix)?<br clear="none">> 2. Wheel size—15x4.5 60 spoke; 15x5 72 spoke; or 15x5.5 72 spoke?<br clear="none">> 3. Tire Brand?<br clear="none">> 4. Tire Size?<br clear="none">><br clear="none">> I’m not a bargain basement shopper so I’m willing to pay for the best combinations that make sense. I realize there’s a lot of personal preference so I hope I’m not gonna start a war with these questions!<br clear="none">><br clear="none">> Thanks everyone!<br clear="none">> Bruce<br clear="none">><br clear="none">><br clear="none">><br clear="none"><br clear="none">_______________________________________________<br clear="none">Support Team.Net <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://www.team.net/donate.html">ht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