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    re: "<span class="454595300-25102019"><font size="2" face="Arial"
        color="#0000ff">NOS BN1 mild steel down pipe never been
        installed. No rust. Minimum 20 years old - No flex solid as a
        rock."<br>
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        Doesn't seem right to me; there may be rust that isn't visible. 
        I'd spray penetrant oil on it a few times and 'work' it; I'd bet
        it will loosen up.<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/24/2019 6:00 PM, Harold Manifold
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      <div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="454595300-25102019"><font
            size="2" face="Arial" color="#0000ff">Since we are using
            science and design of experiments I would like to add to the
            research.</font></span></div>
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      <div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="454595300-25102019"><font
            size="2" face="Arial" color="#0000ff">Test 1 - Brand new AH
            Spares (Bell) SS down pipe - 1" of flex with moderate hand
            pressure.</font></span></div>
      <div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="454595300-25102019"><font
            size="2" face="Arial" color="#0000ff">Test 2 - Same as above
            for the other down pipe.</font></span></div>
      <div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="454595300-25102019"><font
            size="2" face="Arial" color="#0000ff">Test 3 - NOS BN1 mild
            steel down pipe never been installed. No rust. Minimum 20
            years old - No flex solid as a rock.</font></span></div>
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      <div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="454595300-25102019"><font
            size="2" face="Arial" color="#0000ff">BTW the NOS BN1 pipe
            is for sale. It would be suitable for a concourse
            restoration.</font></span></div>
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      <div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="454595300-25102019"><font
            size="2" face="Arial" color="#0000ff">Regards,</font></span></div>
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      <div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="454595300-25102019"><font
            size="2" face="Arial" color="#0000ff">Harold</font></span></div>
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        <font size="2" face="Tahoma"><b>From:</b> Healeys
          [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net">mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Bob
          Spidell<br>
          <b>Sent:</b> Thursday, October 24, 2019 7:28 AM<br>
          <b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a><br>
          <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Down Pipes - The Final Saga<br>
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      re: "... hen brand new do the mild steel down pipes ever show any
      sign of flex?"<br>
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      If you mean does the flexible section, well, flex?  Yes, they do;
      maybe an inch or two of deflection at the end.<br>
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      Bob<br>
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      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/24/2019 6:52 AM, Neil McDonald
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          <div>An exciting subject indeed!</div>
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        <div>I am about to fit an unused mild steel down pipe that I
          have had on the shelf for maybe ten years. No sign of rust but
          I am away from home right now so can not test it for flex. I
          might zap it with WD40 before fitting - can’t hurt. </div>
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        <div>The question is - when brand new do the mild steel down
          pipes ever show any sign of flex?</div>
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        <div>Neil</div>
        <div>BN6</div>
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            <div class="gmail_attr" dir="ltr">On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at
              2:42 PM Perry via Healeys <<a
                href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"
                moz-do-not-send="true">healeys@autox.team.net</a>>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal">Listers</p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal">As a follow up to my post on
                    10/18 on this exciting subject, I decided to do an
                    experiment with a couple downpipes I had in the
                    parts bin. Both pipes are new old stock and have
                    never been on a car.  One is stainless and the other
                    mild steel. Both have been laying on a shelf in the
                    garage for at least 9 years. </p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal">The test was to measure how much
                    deflection was noted in the flex portion of the
                    downpipe when the tip (where it enters the muffler)
                    is loaded with a weight. The upper portion of the
                    pipe was firmly held by the bench vice. </p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal">Should have started with
                    something less then 10 pounds but the stainless
                    moved considerably under that weight.  The mild
                    steel did not budge.</p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal">At 47 pounds I heard a creaky
                    noise but no movement on the mild steel. I then
                    applied an unspecified force with my hand to the 47
                    pounds and no movement. </p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal">My conclusion is that the mild
                    steel flex pipe, once it takes a set, ie, Gets
                    Rusty, does not flex. It is the weak link that will
                    fail but it might as well be a piece of regular
                    pipe.</p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal">Perry</p>
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