<div style="color:black;font: 10pt arial;">Funny. As I read Skips original query I was thinking rather than modify the Healey seat why not get Miata seats? with all the rest of the Miata parts around it too. :)<br>
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From: Al Fuller <alfuller194@gmail.com><br>
To: Healeys <Healeys@autox.team.net><br>
Sent: Thu, Sep 5, 2019 8:44 pm<br>
Subject: [Healeys] Miata seats - [was headrest]<br>
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<div class="yiv0324957586MsoNormal">Yes, I did… great headrests on the Miata seats. See pic below of seats going in. I will send a separate email as installed.</div>
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<div class="yiv0324957586MsoNormal"><b><u>Al Fuller</u></b></div>
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<div class="yiv0324957586MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Bruce Steele <healeybruce@roadrunner.com> <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, September 05, 2019 6:39 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Perry' <healeyguy@aol.com>; 'skip saunders' <tfsbj7@gmail.com>; Healeys@autox.team.net; 'Al Fuller' <alfuller194@gmail.com><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Healeys] headrest</div>
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<div class="yiv0324957586MsoNormal"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;'>I agree with Perry. Unless your wife is VERY short, a headrest mounted to the seat back will have to be (rough guess) a foot above the top of the seat to be at head level. There’s a reason you never see that in a modern car; the physics of mounting it that high, assuming the legs are even long enough, are not in your favor to provide any sort of protection—it’s simply too long a lever. And, as Perry notes, the seat back structure is insubstantial; it’s just a concave piece of sheet metal. There is no top bar you can drill through as in the video. </span></div>
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<div class="yiv0324957586MsoNormal"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;'>Your idea of captive nuts welded onto the seat backs suggests that the whole mounting apparatus would be external to the upholstery. Again, given the lever effect, and the metal substructure, I would be very concerned that the whole assembly would be, again to use Perry’s term, flimsy. The only option I can see that would have some structural integrity is to weld tubes onto the back of the seat backs, which would require a completely reupholstering the backs. </span></div>
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<div class="yiv0324957586MsoNormal"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;'>If you want headrests, and a more comfortable seat to boot, I’d think it would be a whole lot easier to just replace the seats with ones from a Mazda Miata. If I recall correctly, Al Fuller did this in one of his Healeys.</span></div>
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<div class="yiv0324957586MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Healeys [<a href="mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" ymailto="mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net">mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Perry via Healeys<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, September 05, 2019 2:53 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> healeylist <<a href="mailto:Healeys@autox.team.net" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" ymailto="mailto:Healeys@autox.team.net">Healeys@autox.team.net</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] headrest</div>
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<div class="yiv0324957586MsoNormal">There is next to no substantial structure to support the headrest, especially in a collision situation. The seat backs are, well you know how strong they are. Lets just say, flimsy. Maybe a properly constructed and mounted roll bar with a head rest pad would be more appropriate. </div>
<div class="yiv0324957586MsoNormal">This has its own issues, good and bad, in an accident. </div>
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<b>Sent: </b>Thursday, September 5, 2019 5:35 PM<br>
<b>To: </b><a href="mailto:Healeys@autox.team.net" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" ymailto="mailto:Healeys@autox.team.net">healeylist</a><br>
<b>Subject: </b>[Healeys] headrest</div>
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<div class="yiv0324957586MsoNormal">Thanks to everyone for the suggestions on buying parts at a discount. </div>
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<div class="yiv0324957586MsoNormal">I’ve another question: Has anyone installed headrests in the Healey 3000?. I’ve a BJ8, my wife would like headrests. Is there a kit suitable for adding headrests to Healey seats?.... I’m tempted by this arrangement:</div>
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<div class="yiv0324957586MsoNormal"><a href="https://www.extremeterrain.com/corbeau-baja-bench-seat-headrest-black-vinyl-8717-yj-tj-jk.html?utm_content=XT%20Interior%20-%20Seats%7CCorbeau&T5_Var4=J109565&intl=0&utm_campaign=XTW+Wrangler+No+Vehicle+High&dialogtech=ppc&utm_source=google-pla&utm_medium=shopping&T5_Var2=shopping&gclid=Cj0KCQjw5MLrBRClARIsAPG0WGwlfZ3zqANKdQb6Xo6n_5IXMBi_Z_NlIHm-bgnpKF8qYkvh2f1ghDsaAoozEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.extremeterrain.com/corbeau-baja-bench-seat-headrest-black-vinyl-8717-yj-tj-jk.html?utm_content=XT%20Interior%20-%20Seats%7CCorbeau&T5_Var4=J109565&intl=0&utm_campaign=XTW+Wrangler+No+Vehicle+High&dialogtech=ppc&utm_source=google-pla&utm_medium=shopping&T5_Var2=shopping&gclid=Cj0KCQjw5MLrBRClARIsAPG0WGwlfZ3zqANKdQb6Xo6n_5IXMBi_Z_NlIHm-bgnpKF8qYkvh2f1ghDsaAoozEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds</a></div>
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<div class="yiv0324957586MsoNormal">using guide tubes such as used in this video:</div>
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<div class="yiv0324957586MsoNormal">and perhaps using this bracket (or similar home-brew) to establish strength for the bottom of the headrests:</div>
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<div class="yiv0324957586MsoNormal"><a href="https://www.npdlink.com/product/bracket-accessory-sport-seat-headrest-to-fit-on/105113/200167" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.npdlink.com/product/bracket-accessory-sport-seat-headrest-to-fit-on/105113/200167</a></div>
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<div class="yiv0324957586MsoNormal">My thoughts involve welding captured nuts into the existing metal seat back frame. Then fabricating a bracket assembly that can be mounted to the seat back into the captured nuts….and have the whole headrest attachment something that can be added/removed as the mood fits the situation…</div>
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<div class="yiv0324957586MsoNormal">Anyone else have other ideas?....better ideas?.... actual experience?</div>
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<div class="yiv0324957586MsoNormal">Thanks</div>
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