<div dir="auto">Been running my oem radistor with more cores and fixed filler neck, and metsl flex fan. Car ran at 189 F, rose to 210 in traffic, but dropped back down. No overflow when we stopped.<div dir="auto">So Im goi g to call this fixed. Sm working to turn my pull electric fan into a push unit with thermostatic controll and manual over ride. <br><br><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature" dir="auto">Ira Erbs<br>Portland, OR<br>typos and artifacts are the fault of my phone</div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Jul 14, 2019, 8:01 PM richard mayor <<a href="mailto:boyracer466@gmail.com">boyracer466@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">70 MPH? Hmmmmm. After a drive the other day, I started doing some work on the engine and I was standing next to my front fender - that has rally vents --and felt a lot of hot air coming out of the vent. I have an electric fan and it had come on at the end of my drive as the temperature started to climb above 190 degrees. And, the hood (bonnet) was in the raised position. <br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Jun 2, 2019 at 8:08 AM <a href="mailto:josef-eckert@t-online.de" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">josef-eckert@t-online.de</a> <<a href="mailto:josef-eckert@t-online.de" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">josef-eckert@t-online.de</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><p style="margin:0px"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);text-decoration:none">My opinion.<br></span></p>
<p style="margin:0px"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);text-decoration:none">Side vents help at speeds above app. 70 miles/h for race cars.</span></p>
<p style="margin:0px"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);text-decoration:none">Louvers are just a gimmick. help nothing, only cause trouble in rain (mainly when car is parked somewhere).</span></p>
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<p style="margin:0px">Betreff: Re: [Healeys] alum radiator swap</p>
<p style="margin:0px">Datum: 2019-06-02T16:16:51+0200</p>
<p style="margin:0px">Von: "Bob Spidell" <<a href="mailto:bspidell@comcast.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">bspidell@comcast.net</a>></p>
<p style="margin:0px">An: "<a href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">healeys@autox.team.net</a>" <<a href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">healeys@autox.team.net</a>></p>
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<p style="margin:0px">While we're (sort of) on topic, what is the List wisdom on the efficacy of fitting side vents to the front wings (a la rally cars)? Since, supposedly, a big part of the issue with Healeys overheating is insufficient airflow through the engine bay, I'd expect them to help quite a bit. Or, or they 'useless' as well, since the main overheating issue is stopped at idle?</p>
<p style="margin:0px">Not sure if the louvers on my 100M help. It still gets a bit warm stopped at idle, but not as much as my BJ8 (but I haven't driven the M as much, smaller engine, etc.).</p>
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<p style="margin:0px">An old car should be fit for any normal drive, be it regularly or occasionally, at leisure or in modern heavy traffic. This means that many classic cars will need some assistance with the cooling, i.e. an electric fan, either manually or thermostatically controlled.</p>
<p style="margin:0px">An aluminium radiator is indeed a gimmick and does not add anything at all. It will probably wear out faster due to corrosion. It is just cheap to manufacture and does not improve the cooling efficiency. </p>
<p style="margin:0px">What improves cooling efficiency is increasing the running temperature of the engine by fitting a hotter thermostat thus creating a larger delta T, fitting a more efficient water pump to increase the coolant flow, enlarging the total surface area of the radiator, i.e. more rows (up to a point), larger matrix or increase the air flow through the radiator, i.e. improved cowling, more blades to the fixed fan, higher engine idling speed but most of all a thermostatically controlled fan in combination with a carefully chosen thermostat and thermoswitch.</p>
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<p style="margin:0px"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);text-decoration:none">When you use genuine parts to replace faulty ones and when you keep the car propperly maintained and when you use the old car only occasionally for fun drives just to enjoy driving it, there is no problem with an old car.<br></span></p>
<p style="margin:0px"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);text-decoration:none">PS: Aluminium radiator is something nobody needs in a classic car as it improves nothing. Just a useless gimmick.</span></p>
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<p style="margin:0px">Von: "i erbs" <a class="m_3275748353942686671gmail-m_8772433209157760764moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:eyera3000@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"><eyera3000@gmail.com></a></p>
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