<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">In the wise words of John Ruskin:</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">

















<b><font size="4"><span style="line-height:107%">There
is hardly anything in the world that some man cannot make a little worse and
sell a little cheaper, and the people who consider price only are this man's
lawful prey.</span></font></b>



</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Jul 14, 2019 at 11:45 AM Bob Spidell <<a href="mailto:bspidell@comcast.net">bspidell@comcast.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
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    <p>I found an obscure British car parts dealer in an industrial area
      in San Jose (or maybe Los Altos).  They had an OEM front bumper
      for a BJ8--I presume it would fit any 6-cyl car--on the wall.  The
      owner of the shop told me he'd had it for years; no one wanted it
      because it cost a hundred or so bucks more than the crappy repops.</p>
    <p>Who's doing this?  Surely, no one on this list who's complaining
      about crappy fitting parts has sprung for the cheap version over
      the quality one, right (I'm guilty; I bought a cheaper rear brake
      cylinder over the pricier one a couple years ago)?<br>
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    <p>Bob</p>
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    <div class="gmail-m_-281238066023062935moz-cite-prefix">On 7/12/2019 6:38 PM, Don via Healeys
      wrote:<br>
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      When I bought front and rear bumpers for my 67 BJ-8 from Moss . I
      had a show coming up and I needed them quick . Well they weren’t
      even close to fitting. When I called Moss back , the salesman said
      , when you ordered them , didn’t the salesman tell you they will
      need to modified to fit ? Sent them back , ordered a new set from
      AH Spares . Fit first time . 
      <div>           Don , <br>
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          On Jul 12, 2019, at 4:43 PM, Michael MacLean <<a href="mailto:rrengineer.mike@att.net" target="_blank">rrengineer.mike@att.net</a>>
          wrote:<br>
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              <div dir="ltr">     As far as repops
                go, I asked a Moss rep one time why a lot of the
                reproduction parts and the rubber was so bad and did not
                fit well.  He told me that he could sell better parts
                for our cars but very few people will buy them.  If he
                lists both a premium part and a cheaper version, almost
                95% will buy the cheap part. It would be foolish to
                inventory such slow moving parts, so they sell what the
                majority will buy.  Everyone wants the parts to be
                cheap.  S</div>
              <div dir="ltr">     So, I guess you
                get what you pay for.</div>
              <div dir="ltr">Mike MacLean<br>
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                <div> On Friday, July 12, 2019, 8:29:19 AM PDT, Richard
                  Collins <<a href="mailto:gonnagitcha90@hotmail.com" target="_blank">gonnagitcha90@hotmail.com</a>>
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                    <div>
                      Yup, fully agree with the rant:
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                        <div>The rear bumper brackets were not even
                          close to fitting the attachment holes on my
                          rear bumper, both purchased at the same time
                          from the vendor. As a result, one each of the
                          bracket bolts hold the bumper to the car with
                          the other hole in the bumper empty. Looks
                          weird but doesn’t impact drivability. The
                          bumper is so thin that any rear ender will
                          destroy it anyway.<br clear="none">
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                          <div dir="ltr">Regards,
                            <div>Richard C</div>
                            <div>BN7 440</div>
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                              On Jul 11, 2019, at 23:41, Bruce Steele
                              <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="mailto:healeybruce@roadrunner.com" target="_blank">healeybruce@roadrunner.com</a>>
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                          <p class="gmail-m_-281238066023062935yiv0907245582MsoNormal"><span>Amen to that.  The inner forks of
                              front bumper mounting brackets I bought a
                              number of years ago were a bit over an
                              inch shorter than the outer forks, which
                              required sectioning and welding in
                              extensions to bring them level.  In
                              retrospect, I probably should have taken
                              an inch out of the outer forks, as the
                              bumper sits too far proud of the shroud. 
                              I’d totally forgotten about this until I
                              took my aux lamps off and reinstalled the
                              bumper for a show this weekend.  After the
                              show, the bumper is coming off and the
                              lamps are going back on.</span></p>
                          <p class="gmail-m_-281238066023062935yiv0907245582MsoNormal"><span>  </span></p>
                          <p class="gmail-m_-281238066023062935yiv0907245582MsoNormal"><span>Bruce Steele</span></p>
                          <p class="gmail-m_-281238066023062935yiv0907245582MsoNormal"><span>Brea, CA</span></p>
                          <p class="gmail-m_-281238066023062935yiv0907245582MsoNormal"><span>1960 BN7</span></p>
                          <p class="gmail-m_-281238066023062935yiv0907245582MsoNormal"><span>  </span></p>
                          <p class="gmail-m_-281238066023062935yiv0907245582MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11pt">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11pt"> Healeys [<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net" target="_blank">mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>]
                              <b>On Behalf Of </b>Michael Salter<br clear="none">
                              <b>Sent:</b> Thursday, July 11, 2019 1:39
                              PM<br clear="none">
                              <b>To:</b> Michael MacLean <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="mailto:rrengineer.mike@att.net" target="_blank">rrengineer.mike@att.net</a>><br clear="none">
                              <b>Cc:</b> <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net" target="_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a><br clear="none">
                              <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Mind if I
                              Rant?</span></p>
                          <p class="gmail-m_-281238066023062935yiv0907245582MsoNormal">  </p>
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                            <p class="gmail-m_-281238066023062935yiv0907245582MsoNormal">Mike you
                              are pretty well "on the money" there.</p>
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                              <p class="gmail-m_-281238066023062935yiv0907245582MsoNormal">I have
                                encountered endless problems with repop
                                parts. I fail to understand why
                                manufacturers have so much difficulty
                                getting things right. </p>
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                              <p class="gmail-m_-281238066023062935yiv0907245582MsoNormal">My
                                suspicion is that we are all partly to
                                blame for accepting the junk and trying
                                to make it work.</p>
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                              <p class="gmail-m_-281238066023062935yiv0907245582MsoNormal">I will
                                go to untold lengths to purchase a good
                                used part any time as so doing
                                invariably saves me hours and hours of
                                frustration...</p>
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                              <p class="gmail-m_-281238066023062935yiv0907245582MsoNormal">  </p>
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                            <div>
                              <p class="gmail-m_-281238066023062935yiv0907245582MsoNormal">I feel
                                your pain.</p>
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                              <p class="gmail-m_-281238066023062935yiv0907245582MsoNormal">M</p>
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                              <p class="gmail-m_-281238066023062935yiv0907245582MsoNormal">On Thu,
                                Jul 11, 2019, 4:19 PM Mike MacLean, <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="mailto:rrengineer.mike@att.net" target="_blank">rrengineer.mike@att.net</a>>
                                wrote:</p>
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                                <p class="gmail-m_-281238066023062935yiv0907245582MsoNormal">I am
                                  beginning to understand what a
                                  restorer friend of mine once told me. 
                                  He said he could restore three BJ8
                                  cars in the time it took to do a 100. 
                                  Virtually no parts I have bought from
                                  the usual suspects for my BN2 are easy
                                  to install.  Nothing fits like it was
                                  made for the car.  This morning I made
                                  an attempt to bolt up the two bump
                                  stop boxes over the rear axle.  None
                                  of the holes in the part lined up with
                                  the holes in the body above the rear
                                  axle.  I will have to auger out at
                                  least three of the holes in the bump
                                  stop box to get all four bolts in. 
                                  This car is fighting me every step of
                                  the way.  I guess it's like my
                                  restorer friend who has since passed
                                  told me when he sold me that rolling
                                  frame with a few body panels on it,
                                  "Go ahead buy the car, it will give
                                  you a reason to live".  I am beginning
                                  to understand what he meant.  Half the
                                  time I am pulling my hair out and
                                  inventing new curse words, but I go
                                  out to that garage everyday and try to
                                  accomplish something on the car, even
                                  if I end up beating my head against
                                  the wall, I keep coming back.  Rant
                                  over.</p>
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                                  <p class="gmail-m_-281238066023062935yiv0907245582MsoNormal">Mike
                                    MacLean</p>
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