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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif'>I spent quite a bit of time researching whether to use Evans. I had tried a few years ago for one driving season (basically a year) and found my car ran slightly hotter with it, and that was without a thermostat. Yes, it has a higher boiling point, but I want the temp to be as low as possible. I ended up running straight deionized water with No Rosion. I also added an oil cooler from Moss and the “air shovel” chin scoop. Altogether, running about 10 degrees cooler with a 190 degree thermostat.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Bruce Steele<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Brea, CA<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>1960 BN7<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>josef-eckert@t-online.de<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, June 03, 2019 10:47 AM<br><b>To:</b> Kees Oudesluijs <coudesluijs@chello.nl>; Michael MacLean <rrengineer.mike@att.net>; healeys@autox.team.net; Patrick & Caroline Quinn <p_cquinn@tpg.com.au><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Subject: Re: alum radiator swap<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>In this I fully support what Kees said.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Absolute waste of money.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'> <o:p></o:p></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Josef Eckert</span><o:p></o:p></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'> <o:p></o:p></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'> <o:p></o:p></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'>-----Original-Nachricht-----<o:p></o:p></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'>Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Subject: Re: alum radiator swap<o:p></o:p></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'>Datum: 2019-06-03T19:15:05+0200<o:p></o:p></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'>Von: "Kees Oudesluijs" <<a href="mailto:coudesluijs@chello.nl">coudesluijs@chello.nl</a>><o:p></o:p></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'>An: "Michael MacLean" <<a href="mailto:rrengineer.mike@att.net">rrengineer.mike@att.net</a>>, "<a href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a>" <<a href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a>>, "Patrick & Caroline Quinn" <<a href="mailto:p_cquinn@tpg.com.au">p_cquinn@tpg.com.au</a>><o:p></o:p></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'> <o:p></o:p></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'> <o:p></o:p></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'>Expensive and an absolutely a waste of money. Cooling will suffer as it does not transfer heat as well as water (the main ingredient of coolant) and the heat capacity is lower. The only advantage is it will not boil but it does not cool the engine as well as ordinary coolant.<o:p></o:p></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'>Anyway, you should correct the source of overheating which is the only proper way to go. Fighting the symptoms only is not going to work in the end.<o:p></o:p></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'> <o:p></o:p></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'>Kees Oudesluijs<o:p></o:p></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'> <o:p></o:p></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Op 3-6-2019 om 19:04 schreef Michael MacLean:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>You could always use Evans waterless coolant. Then you wouln't have to worry about overheating in traffic or anywhere.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Mike MacLean<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><a href="https://www.evanscoolant.com/">Evans Waterless Coolant, Prevent Engine Overheating</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div id="ydp5b8c116benhancr_card_9897975563"><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0><tr><td width=400 style='width:300.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'><table class=MsoNormalTable border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 width="100%" style='width:100.0%;border:solid #E0E4E9 1.0pt'><tr><td style='border:none;padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0><tr><td valign=top style='background:white;padding:12.0pt 0in 12.0pt 9.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></td><td width="99%" style='width:99.0%;padding:9.0pt .25in 12.0pt 9.0pt;border-radius: 0 0 2px 0'><h2 style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:4.5pt;margin-left:0in;line-height:14.25pt'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'>Evans Waterless Coolant, Prevent Engine Overheating<o:p></o:p></span></h2><p class=ydp5b8c116bcard-description style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#979BA7'>Evans waterless coolant, the solution to engine overheating & corrosion for classic cars, hot rods, muscle cars,...<o:p></o:p></span></p></td></tr></table></td></tr></table></td></tr></table></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div id="yahoo_quoted_9597023953"><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'>On Sunday, June 2, 2019, 11:40:04 PM PDT, Patrick & Caroline Quinn <a href="mailto:p_cquinn@tpg.com.au"><p_cquinn@tpg.com.au></a> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div id=yiv7708788296><div><div><p class=yiv7708788296msonormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'>Hello</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=yiv7708788296msonormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=yiv7708788296msonormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'>I agree with Kees, 190°F is no big deal. The gauges fitted to Austin-Healeys read to </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'>230°F and when the needle goes past that is when you should start worrying.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=yiv7708788296msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=yiv7708788296msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'>Hoo Roo<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=yiv7708788296msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=yiv7708788296msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'>Patrick Quinn<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=yiv7708788296msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'>Blue Mountains, Australia<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=yiv7708788296msonormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div id=yiv7708788296yqt93740><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=yiv7708788296msonormal><strong><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'>From:</span></strong><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'> Healeys [<a href="mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net">mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>] <strong><span style='font-family:"Helvetica Neue"'>On Behalf Of </span></strong>Kees Oudesluijs<br><strong><span style='font-family:"Helvetica Neue"'>Sent:</span></strong> Monday, 3 June 2019 4:22 PM<br><strong><span style='font-family:"Helvetica Neue"'>To:</span></strong> <a href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a><br><strong><span style='font-family:"Helvetica Neue"'>Subject:</span></strong> Re: [Healeys] Subject: Re: alum radiator swap<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=yiv7708788296msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'>190°F is no big deal, boiling point is well over 212°F. However check the accuracy of the thermometer to be sure of a correct reading.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'>Kees Oudesluijs<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=yiv7708788296msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'>Op 3-6-2019 om 02:46 schreef Albert Seminatore:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=yiv7708788296msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'>Thought I'd share my experience with the alum radiator.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=yiv7708788296msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'>First I had the OEM radiator boiled cleaned etc.. Then I put in a flex fan. Finally a 160 degree F thermostat.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=yiv7708788296msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'> Results: Helped a bit but in the summer and in the desert the temp went to almost 190F.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=yiv7708788296msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=yiv7708788296msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'>Talked to someone who had an alum. in his MGTD. Said it gave him 20% increase in cooling. So being foolish I bought one.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=yiv7708788296msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'> Results: Absolutely NO change. Well it lightened my pocket book.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=yiv7708788296msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=yiv7708788296msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'>Recently talked to a man who made a shroud for his healey and claimed it made a big difference alng with his Texas Fan (6 bladed).<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=yiv7708788296msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'> Results: I started to make the shroud BUT. The fan is not centered on the radiator. The fan is 1 inch to the left of the radiator. So the plans for a shroud isn't going to work as is.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=yiv7708788296msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=yiv7708788296msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'> Questions: Is the motor incorrectly mounted causing the offset?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=yiv7708788296msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'> If I put in an electric fan is it best to remove the flex fan completely?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=yiv7708788296msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'> Would a four core radiator be of any help?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=yiv7708788296msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'> Should I ignore my fear and let the temp go to 190F without a worry?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=yiv7708788296msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'>I live in the desert and have to go over a 5000 foot mountain to get to Las Vegas.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=yiv7708788296msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'>Thanks.............. 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