<html><head><style> body {height: 100%; color:#000000; font-size:12pt; font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;}</style></head><body><div>Yes 100% agree.<br></div><div>What is worse is that you won't know that your engine is running hotter.<br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div>The metal (head etc) will get hotter as not all the heat is transfered to the cooling system.<br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div>Your water temp gauge won't show this.<br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div>rg<br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div><br></div><div>----- Original Message -----<br>From: Kees Oudesluijs <coudesluijs@chello.nl><br>To: Michael MacLean <rrengineer.mike@att.net>, healeys@autox.team.net, Patrick & Caroline Quinn <p_cquinn@tpg.com.au><br>Sent: Mon, 03 Jun 2019 11:14:26 -0600 (MDT)<br>Subject: Re: [Healeys] Subject: Re: alum radiator swap<br></div><div><br></div><p>Expensive and an absolutely a waste of money. Cooling will suffer<br> as it does not transfer heat as well as water (the main ingredient<br> of coolant) and the heat capacity is lower. The only advantage is<br> it will not boil but it does not cool the engine as well as<br> ordinary coolant.</p><p>Anyway, you should correct the source of overheating which is the<br> only proper way to go. Fighting the symptoms only is not going to<br> work in the end.<br></p><p><br></p><p>Kees Oudesluijs</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><div class="moz-cite-prefix">Op 3-6-2019 om 19:04 schreef Michael<br> MacLean:<br></div><blockquote cite="mid:1253638333.11546099.1559581474771@mail.yahoo.com"><div class="ydp79a3d44ayahoo-style-wrap" style="font-family: times<br> new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 16px;" data-mce-style="font-family: times<br> new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 16px;"><div>You could always use Evans waterless coolant. Then you<br> wouln't have to worry about overheating in traffic or<br> anywhere.</div><div>Mike MacLean</div><div><br></div><div><a href="https://www.evanscoolant.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" class="enhancr_card_9897975563" data-mce-href="https://www.evanscoolant.com/">Evans Waterless Coolant, Prevent<br> Engine Overheating</a><br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div><br></div><div id="ydp5b8c116benhancr_card_9897975563" class="ydp5b8c116byahoo-link-enhancr-card<br> ydp5b8c116byahoo-link-enhancr-not-allow-cover<br> ydp5b8c116bymail-preserve-class<br> ydp5b8c116bymail-preserve-style" style="max-width: 400px; font-family: Helvetica Neue, Segoe UI,<br> Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;" data-mce-style="max-width: 400px; font-family: Helvetica Neue, Segoe UI,<br> Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;"><table class="ydp5b8c116bcard-wrapper<br> ydp5b8c116byahoo-ignore-table mce-item-table" style="max-width: 400px;" data-mce-style="max-width: 400px;" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0"><tbody><tr><td width="400"><table class="ydp5b8c116bcard<br> ydp5b8c116byahoo-ignore-table mce-item-table" style="max-width: 400px; border-width: 1px; border-style: solid; border-color: rgb(224,<br> 228, 233); border-radius: 2px;" data-mce-style="max-width: 400px; border-width: 1px; border-style: solid; border-color: rgb(224,<br> 228, 233); border-radius: 2px;" width="100%" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0"><tbody><tr><td><table class="ydp5b8c116bcard-info<br> ydp5b8c116byahoo-ignore-table mce-item-table" style="background-color: rgb(255, 255,<br> 255); background-repeat: repeat; <br> background-attachment: scroll; <br> background-image: none; background-size: <br> auto; position: relative; z-index: 2; <br> width: 100%; max-width: 400px; <br> border-radius: 0px 0px 2px 2px; <br> border-top: 1px solid #e0e4e9;" data-mce-style="background-color: rgb(255, 255,<br> 255); background-repeat: repeat; <br> background-attachment: scroll; <br> background-image: none; background-size: <br> auto; position: relative; z-index: 2; <br> width: 100%; max-width: 400px; <br> border-radius: 0px 0px 2px 2px; <br> border-top: 1px solid #e0e4e9;" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0"><tbody><tr><td style="background-color: #ffffff; padding: 16px<br> 0 16px<br> 12px; vertical-align: top; border-radius: 0<br> 0 0 2px;" data-mce-style="background-color: #ffffff; padding: 16px<br> 0 16px<br> 12px; vertical-align: top; border-radius: 0<br> 0 0 2px;"><br></td><td style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 12px<br> 24px 16px<br> 12px; width: 99%; font-family: Helvetica<br> Neue, Segoe UI, Helvetica, Arial,<br> sans-serif; border-radius: 0 0 2px 0;" data-mce-style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 12px<br> 24px 16px<br> 12px; width: 99%; font-family: Helvetica<br> Neue, Segoe UI, Helvetica, Arial,<br> sans-serif; border-radius: 0 0 2px 0;"><h2 class="ydp5b8c116bcard-title" style="font-size: 14px; <br> line-height: 19px; margin: 0px 0px<br> 6px; font-family: Helvetica Neue,<br> Segoe UI, Helvetica, Arial,<br> sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 40,<br> 42);" data-mce-style="font-size: 14px; <br> line-height: 19px; margin: 0px 0px<br> 6px; font-family: Helvetica Neue,<br> Segoe UI, Helvetica, Arial,<br> sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 40,<br> 42);">Evans Waterless Coolant,<br> Prevent Engine Overheating</h2><p class="ydp5b8c116bcard-description" style="font-size: 12px; <br> line-height: 16px; margin: 0px; <br> color: #979ba7;" data-mce-style="font-size: 12px; <br> line-height: 16px; margin: 0px; <br> color: #979ba7;">Evans<br> waterless coolant, the solution to<br> engine overheating & corrosion<br> for classic cars, hot rods, muscle<br> cars,...</p></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div id="yahoo_quoted_9597023953" class="yahoo_quoted"><div style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial,<br> sans-serif; font-size: 13px; color: #26282a;" data-mce-style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial,<br> sans-serif; font-size: 13px; color: #26282a;"><div>On Sunday, June 2, 2019, 11:40:04 PM PDT, Patrick &<br> Caroline Quinn <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:p_cquinn@tpg.com.au" target="_blank" data-mce-href="mailto:p_cquinn@tpg.com.au"><p_cquinn@tpg.com.au></a> wrote:</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div id="yiv7708788296"><div><div class="yiv7708788296WordSection1"><p class="yiv7708788296MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11.0pt;" data-mce-style="font-size: 11.0pt;">Hello</span></p><p class="yiv7708788296MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11.0pt;" data-mce-style="font-size: 11.0pt;"> </span></p><p class="yiv7708788296MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11.0pt;" data-mce-style="font-size: 11.0pt;">I agree with Kees, 190°F<br> is no big deal. The gauges fitted to<br> Austin-Healeys read to </span>230°F and when the<br> needle goes past that is when you should start<br> worrying.</p><p class="yiv7708788296MsoNormal"> </p><p class="yiv7708788296MsoNormal">Hoo Roo</p><p class="yiv7708788296MsoNormal"> </p><p class="yiv7708788296MsoNormal">Patrick Quinn</p><p class="yiv7708788296MsoNormal">Blue Mountains,<br> Australia<span style="font-size: 11.0pt;" data-mce-style="font-size: 11.0pt;"></span></p><p class="yiv7708788296MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11.0pt;" data-mce-style="font-size: 11.0pt;"> </span></p><div class="yiv7708788296yqt7776304027" id="yiv7708788296yqt93740"><div><div style="border: none; border-top: solid #B5C4DF<br> 1.0pt; padding: 3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm;" data-mce-style="border: none; border-top: solid #B5C4DF<br> 1.0pt; padding: 3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm;"><p class="yiv7708788296MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 10.0pt;" data-mce-style="font-size: 10.0pt;" lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10.0pt;" data-mce-style="font-size: 10.0pt;" lang="EN-US"><br> Healeys<br> [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net" target="_blank" data-mce-href="mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net">mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>] <b>On<br> Behalf Of </b>Kees Oudesluijs<br clear="none"><b>Sent:</b> Monday, 3 June 2019 4:22 PM<br clear="none"><b>To:</b><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net" target="_blank" data-mce-href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a><br clear="none"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Subject: Re:<br> alum radiator swap</span></p></div></div><p class="yiv7708788296MsoNormal"> </p><p>190°F is no big deal, boiling point is well over<br> 212°F. However check the accuracy of the<br> thermometer to be sure of a correct reading.</p><p>Kees Oudesluijs</p><p> </p><p> </p><div><p class="yiv7708788296MsoNormal">Op 3-6-2019 om<br> 02:46 schreef Albert Seminatore:</p></div><blockquote style="margin-top: 5.0pt; margin-bottom: 5.0pt;" data-mce-style="margin-top: 5.0pt; margin-bottom: 5.0pt;"><div><div><p class="yiv7708788296MsoNormal">Thought I'd<br> share my experience with the alum radiator.<br clear="all"></p></div><div><p class="yiv7708788296MsoNormal">First I had<br> the OEM radiator boiled cleaned etc.. Then<br> I put in a flex fan. Finally a 160 degree F<br> thermostat.</p></div><div><p class="yiv7708788296MsoNormal"> Results:<br> Helped a bit but in the summer and in the<br> desert the temp went to almost 190F.</p></div><div><p class="yiv7708788296MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="yiv7708788296MsoNormal">Talked to<br> someone who had an alum. in his MGTD. Said<br> it gave him 20% increase in cooling. So<br> being foolish I bought one.</p></div><div><p class="yiv7708788296MsoNormal"> <br> Results: Absolutely NO change. Well it<br> lightened my pocket book.</p></div><div><p class="yiv7708788296MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="yiv7708788296MsoNormal">Recently<br> talked to a man who made a shroud for his<br> healey and claimed it made a big difference<br> alng with his Texas Fan (6 bladed).</p></div><div><p class="yiv7708788296MsoNormal"> <br> Results: I started to make the shroud BUT. <br> The fan is not centered on the radiator. <br> The fan is 1 inch to the left of the<br> radiator. So the plans for a shroud isn't<br> going to work as is.</p></div><div><p class="yiv7708788296MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="yiv7708788296MsoNormal"> <br> Questions: Is the motor incorrectly mounted<br> causing the offset?</p></div><div><p class="yiv7708788296MsoNormal"> <br> If I put in an electric fan is<br> it best to remove the flex fan completely?</p></div><div><p class="yiv7708788296MsoNormal"> <br> Would a four core radiator be of any help?</p></div><div><p class="yiv7708788296MsoNormal"> <br> Should I ignore my fear and<br> let the temp go to 190F without a worry?</p></div><div><p class="yiv7708788296MsoNormal">I live in<br> the desert and have to go over a 5000 foot<br> mountain to get to Las Vegas.</p></div><div><p class="yiv7708788296MsoNormal">Thanks.............. <br> Al</p></div><p class="yiv7708788296MsoNormal"><br clear="none"><br> --</p><div><div><div><div><p class="yiv7708788296MsoNormal"><span>Albert Seminatore</span></p></div><p class="yiv7708788296MsoNormal">Mountain<br> Falls, Pahrump, NV</p></div><p class="yiv7708788296MsoNormal">eMail: <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="mailto:alsemus1@gmail.com" data-mce-href="mailto:alsemus1@gmail.com">alsemus1@gmail.com</a><br data-mce-bogus="1"></p></div></div></div><p class="yiv7708788296MsoNormal"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"></p><pre>_______________________________________________</pre><pre>Support Team.Net <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://www.team.net/donate.html" data-mce-href="http://www.team.net/donate.html">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br data-mce-bogus="1"></pre><pre>Suggested annual donation $12.75</pre><pre> </pre><pre>Archive: <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys" data-mce-href="http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys">http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys</a><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://autox.team.net/archive" data-mce-href="http://autox.team.net/archive">http://autox.team.net/archive</a><br data-mce-bogus="1"></pre><pre> </pre><pre><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="mailto:Healeys@autox.team.net" data-mce-href="mailto:Healeys@autox.team.net">Healeys@autox.team.net</a><br data-mce-bogus="1"></pre><pre><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys" data-mce-href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys">http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys</a><br data-mce-bogus="1"></pre><pre> </pre><pre>Unsubscribe/Manage: <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/coudesluijs@chello.nl" data-mce-href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/coudesluijs@chello.nl">http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/coudesluijs@chello.nl</a><br data-mce-bogus="1"></pre><pre> </pre></blockquote></div></div><div id="yiv7708788296DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2"><br clear="none"><table style="border-top: 1px solid #D3D4DE;" data-mce-style="border-top: 1px solid #D3D4DE;" class="mce-item-table"><tbody><tr><td colspan="1" rowspan="1" style="width: 55px; 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