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<div>Regarding "car dies suddenly", this happened to my BJ8 four times over the course of 10 miles--dirty fuel filters proved to be the cause.</div><div>rich antal</div><div><br></div>
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On Wednesday, March 20, 2019, 3:52:32 PM EDT, healeys-request@autox.team.net <healeys-request@autox.team.net> wrote:
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Re: Car dies suddenly (<a ymailto="mailto:simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com" href="mailto:simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com">simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com</a>)<br></div><div dir="ltr"> 2. Re: Car dies suddenly (Elton Schulz)<br></div><div dir="ltr"> 3. Re: Car dies suddenly (Bluehealey)<br></div><div dir="ltr"> 4. Re: Car dies suddenly (skip saunders)<br></div><div dir="ltr"> 5. Re: Gearbox Noise (Charles Schott)<br></div><div dir="ltr"> 6. Re: Car dies suddenly (Michael Salter)<br></div><div dir="ltr"> 7. Re: Car dies suddenly (Michael Oritt)<br></div><div dir="ltr"> 8. Re: Car dies suddenly (i erbs)<br></div><div dir="ltr"> 9. Re: Car dies suddenly (Engl)<br></div><div dir="ltr"> 10. Re: Car dies suddenly (WILLIAM B LAWRENCE)<br></div><div dir="ltr"> 11. sudden stop (=?utf-8?Q?healeymanjim?=)<br></div><div dir="ltr"> 12. Re: Gearbox Noise (Michael Salter)<br></div><div dir="ltr"> 13. Re: Car dies suddenly (Jonathan Einhorn)<br></div><div dir="ltr"> 14. Re: Car dies suddenly (Tom Felts)<br></div><div dir="ltr"> 15. Re: Gearbox Noise (Chris Dimmock)<br></div><div dir="ltr"> 16. Re: Car dies suddenly (<a ymailto="mailto:simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com" href="mailto:simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com">simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com</a>)<br></div><div dir="ltr"> 17. Re: Gearbox Noise (Bruce Steele)<br></div><div dir="ltr"> 18. Re: Car dies suddenly (Bob Spidell)<br></div><div dir="ltr"> 19. Re: Gearbox Noise (Mark J Bradakis)<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">----------------------------------------------------------------------<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Message: 1<br></div><div dir="ltr">Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2019 20:49:13 -0000<br></div><div dir="ltr">From: <<a ymailto="mailto:simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com" href="mailto:simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com">simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">To: "'Michael Oritt'" <<a ymailto="mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com" href="mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com">michael.oritt@gmail.com</a>>, "'Austin Healey'"<br></div><div dir="ltr"> <<a ymailto="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net" href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [Healeys] Car dies suddenly<br></div><div dir="ltr">Message-ID: <001101d4de95$37033f00$a509bd00$@alexarevel.plus.com><br></div><div dir="ltr">Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">I?m presuming that the car?s a 100? You make reference to 4 plugs?..<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Do 100s have the dreaded white wire from the on/off switch in the boot? Do 100s have the switch even? Anyhow, that wire shorting out has caused endless tears.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Or is it a black/white wire?<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Worth a look.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Simon<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"> <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">From: Healeys <<a ymailto="mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net" href="mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>> On Behalf Of Michael Oritt<br></div><div dir="ltr">Sent: 19 March 2019 17:46<br></div><div dir="ltr">To: Austin Healey <<a ymailto="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net" href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Subject: [Healeys] Car dies suddenly<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"> <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Yesterday morning I went out for a drive and after about five miles the car suddenly died. There was no rough running, sputtering or missing leading up to it?the car simply died. I coasted to the side of the road and after about 30 seconds since the key was still on I pushed the start button. To my surprise the car started immediately, revved freely and idled smoothly. A bit perplexed I decided to drive on to see what would happen now that I was paying close attention. The car accelerated smoothly and ran fine for about 1/2 mile and then it died again in the same manner as earlier. I shut off the key, popped the hood and examined the ignition system. Everything seemed fine?all spark plug leads were firmly in place as was the lead from the coil to the distributor. The power wires to the coil were tight and the harness/connector to the distributor (see below) seemed fine.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">After scratching my head for a couple of minutes I got in the car, turned on the ignition and pushed the start button. Again, the car started right up and ran normally. With fingers crossed I headed for my shop/garage, about ten miles away and got there without any further event. Though the problem did not seem to be fuel related I decided to verify that this was not a fuel delivery issue. I have a double-headed SU fuel pump wired to a switch mounted just behind the driver?s seat which allows me to switch between pumps as well as turn the fuel pump off. While I was running the car at highway speeds it ran perfectly on either pump and when I selected the ?off? position it slowly lost power as I expected it to?but in no way like it had suddenly twice died 15 or so minutes earlier. This indicated I was not dealing with a fuel issue but rather something related either to the ignition system or to the primary wires that run to it. <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">This morning I dove a bit deeper to try and diagnose the problem. The car has a Mallory Unilite ignition system tied to an MSD coil which has been in place and performed faultlessly for a number of years. I removed the distributor cap and everything appears to be okay, at least visually. The interior of the distributor was clean and dry as was the cap, leads, carbon contact, optical reader, etc. Mallory specifies the use of a ballast resistor in the lead from the power source to the coil and with the engine fast-idling I tested 12.5 VDC to the resistor and about 5.5-6 VDC out of it and at the positive coil terminal. <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">I have a large low-oil pressure light that is mounted in the dash in place of the original overdrive switch. It is wired from the ignition switch through a 10 psi normally-closed switch mounted in the oil pressure gauge sender line and then to the light. I point this out because both times when the engine shut down yesterday the light immediately came on, from which I conclude that the ignition switch itself is not the source of the problem. And though I did not remove the ignition key switch the wires to and from it seem tight and intact.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">So my question is: What do I do? I hate to throw parts at it without finding something that appears to be defective but I don?t know where to start any further tests, etc. I also don?t want to simply wait for the issue to happen again. BTW over the weekend I drove about 150 miles with no issues whatever. Beyond installing four new plugs last week I have not performed any work related to the ignition system. All suggestions/questions welcome?.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"> <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Best--Michael Oritt, BN1<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">-------------- next part --------------<br></div><div dir="ltr">An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br></div><div dir="ltr">URL: <<a href="http://autox.team.net/pipermail/healeys/attachments/20190319/2f740cc8/attachment-0001.html" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/pipermail/healeys/attachments/20190319/2f740cc8/attachment-0001.html</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">------------------------------<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Message: 2<br></div><div dir="ltr">Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2019 17:07:10 -0400<br></div><div dir="ltr">From: Elton Schulz <<a ymailto="mailto:eschulz@frontiernet.net" href="mailto:eschulz@frontiernet.net">eschulz@frontiernet.net</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">To: <a ymailto="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net" href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [Healeys] Car dies suddenly<br></div><div dir="ltr">Message-ID: <<a ymailto="mailto:5C9159FE.7000505@frontiernet.net" href="mailto:5C9159FE.7000505@frontiernet.net">5C9159FE.7000505@frontiernet.net</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; Format="flowed"<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Michael,<br></div><div dir="ltr">Could it be the battery cutoff switch in the trunk or the black/white <br></div><div dir="ltr">wire from that switch to the distributor?<br></div><div dir="ltr">Elton<br></div><div dir="ltr">On 3/19/2019 1:45 PM, Michael Oritt wrote:<br></div><div dir="ltr">> Yesterday morning I went out for a drive and after about five miles <br></div><div dir="ltr">> the car suddenly died. There was no rough running, sputtering or <br></div><div dir="ltr">> missing leading up to it---the car simply died. I coasted to the side <br></div><div dir="ltr">> of the road and after about 30 seconds since the key was still on I <br></div><div dir="ltr">> pushed the start button. To my surprise the car started immediately, <br></div><div dir="ltr">> revved freely and idled smoothly. A bit perplexed I decided to drive <br></div><div dir="ltr">> on to see what would happen now that I was paying close attention. The <br></div><div dir="ltr">> car accelerated smoothly and ran fine for about 1/2 mile and then it <br></div><div dir="ltr">> died again in the same manner as earlier. I shut off the key, popped <br></div><div dir="ltr">> the hood and examined the ignition system. Everything seemed <br></div><div dir="ltr">> fine---all spark plug leads were firmly in place as was the lead from <br></div><div dir="ltr">> the coil to the distributor. The power wires to the coil were tight <br></div><div dir="ltr">> and the harness/connector to the distributor (see below) seemed fine.<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> After scratching my head for a couple of minutes I got in the car, <br></div><div dir="ltr">> turned on the ignition and pushed the start button. Again, the car <br></div><div dir="ltr">> started right up and ran normally. With fingers crossed I headed for <br></div><div dir="ltr">> my shop/garage, about ten miles away and got there without any further <br></div><div dir="ltr">> event. Though the problem did not seem to be fuel related I decided to <br></div><div dir="ltr">> verify that this was not a fuel delivery issue. I have a double-headed <br></div><div dir="ltr">> SU fuel pump wired to a switch mounted just behind the driver's seat <br></div><div dir="ltr">> which allows me to switch between pumps as well as turn the fuel pump <br></div><div dir="ltr">> off. While I was running the car at highway speeds it ran perfectly on <br></div><div dir="ltr">> either pump and when I selected the "off" position it slowly lost <br></div><div dir="ltr">> power as I expected it to---but in no way like it had suddenly twice <br></div><div dir="ltr">> died 15 or so minutes earlier. This indicated I was not dealing with a <br></div><div dir="ltr">> fuel issue but rather something related either to the ignition system <br></div><div dir="ltr">> or to the primary wires that run to it.<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> This morning I dove a bit deeper to try and diagnose the problem. The <br></div><div dir="ltr">> car has a Mallory Unilite ignition system tied to an MSD coil which <br></div><div dir="ltr">> has been in place and performed faultlessly for a number of years. I <br></div><div dir="ltr">> removed the distributor cap and everything appears to be okay, at <br></div><div dir="ltr">> least visually. The interior of the distributor was clean and dry as <br></div><div dir="ltr">> was the cap, leads, carbon contact, optical reader, etc. Mallory <br></div><div dir="ltr">> specifies the use of a ballast resistor in the lead from the power <br></div><div dir="ltr">> source to the coil and with the engine fast-idling I tested 12.5 VDC <br></div><div dir="ltr">> to the resistor and about 5.5-6 VDC out of it and at the positive coil <br></div><div dir="ltr">> terminal.<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> I have a large low-oil pressure light that is mounted in the dash in <br></div><div dir="ltr">> place of the original overdrive switch. It is wired from the ignition <br></div><div dir="ltr">> switch through a 10 psi normally-closed switch mounted in the oil <br></div><div dir="ltr">> pressure gauge sender line and then to the light. I point this out <br></div><div dir="ltr">> because both times when the engine shut down yesterday the light <br></div><div dir="ltr">> immediately came on, from which I conclude that the ignition switch <br></div><div dir="ltr">> itself is not the source of the problem. And though I did not remove <br></div><div dir="ltr">> the ignition key switch the wires to and from it seem tight and intact.<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> So my question is: What do I do? I hate to throw parts at it without <br></div><div dir="ltr">> finding something that appears to be defective but I don't know where <br></div><div dir="ltr">> to start any further tests, etc. I also don't want to simply wait for <br></div><div dir="ltr">> the issue to happen again. BTW over the weekend I drove about 150 <br></div><div dir="ltr">> miles with no issues whatever. Beyond installing four new plugs last <br></div><div dir="ltr">> week I have not performed any work related to the ignition system. All <br></div><div dir="ltr">> suggestions/questions welcome....<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> Best--Michael Oritt, BN1<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> _______________________________________________<br></div><div dir="ltr">> Support Team.Net <a href="http://www.team.net/donate.html" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">> Suggested annual donation $12.75<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> Archive: <a href="http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys " target="_blank">http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys </a><a href="http://autox.team.net/archive" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/archive</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> <a ymailto="mailto:Healeys@autox.team.net" href="mailto:Healeys@autox.team.net">Healeys@autox.team.net</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">> <a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> Unsubscribe/Manage: <a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eschulz@frontiernet.net" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eschulz@frontiernet.net</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">-------------- next part --------------<br></div><div dir="ltr">An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br></div><div dir="ltr">URL: <<a href="http://autox.team.net/pipermail/healeys/attachments/20190319/a83c7d41/attachment-0001.html" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/pipermail/healeys/attachments/20190319/a83c7d41/attachment-0001.html</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">------------------------------<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Message: 3<br></div><div dir="ltr">Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2019 21:36:30 +0000<br></div><div dir="ltr">From: Bluehealey <<a ymailto="mailto:bluehealey@gmail.com" href="mailto:bluehealey@gmail.com">bluehealey@gmail.com</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">To: Michael Oritt <<a ymailto="mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com" href="mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com">michael.oritt@gmail.com</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Cc: Austin Healey <<a ymailto="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net" href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [Healeys] Car dies suddenly<br></div><div dir="ltr">Message-ID: <<a ymailto="mailto:2A42BBCF-9C06-45A2-B558-8F9064EE4034@gmail.com" href="mailto:2A42BBCF-9C06-45A2-B558-8F9064EE4034@gmail.com">2A42BBCF-9C06-45A2-B558-8F9064EE4034@gmail.com</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Are you using a black rotor arm? I had a similar problem that was resolved by changing to a red rotor with no rivet.<br></div><div dir="ltr">Apparently the black colour of the plastic is created by using carbon - which can be an HT conductor if a crack appears usually from the rivet.<br></div><div dir="ltr">Keep us all in the loop.<br></div><div dir="ltr">Bluehealey.com<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Alan - from my iPad<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">> On 19 Mar 2019, at 17:45, Michael Oritt <<a ymailto="mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com" href="mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com">michael.oritt@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><div dir="ltr">> <br></div><div dir="ltr">> Yesterday morning I went out for a drive and after about five miles the car suddenly died. There was no rough running, sputtering or missing leading up to it?the car simply died. I coasted to the side of the road and after about 30 seconds since the key was still on I pushed the start button. To my surprise the car started immediately, revved freely and idled smoothly. A bit perplexed I decided to drive on to see what would happen now that I was paying close attention. The car accelerated smoothly and ran fine for about 1/2 mile and then it died again in the same manner as earlier. I shut off the key, popped the hood and examined the ignition system. Everything seemed fine?all spark plug leads were firmly in place as was the lead from the coil to the distributor. The power wires to the coil were tight and the harness/connector to the distributor (see below) seemed fine.<br></div><div dir="ltr">> <br></div><div dir="ltr">> <br></div><div dir="ltr">> After scratching my head for a couple of minutes I got in the car, turned on the ignition and pushed the start button. Again, the car started right up and ran normally. With fingers crossed I headed for my shop/garage, about ten miles away and got there without any further event. Though the problem did not seem to be fuel related I decided to verify that this was not a fuel delivery issue. I have a double-headed SU fuel pump wired to a switch mounted just behind the driver?s seat which allows me to switch between pumps as well as turn the fuel pump off. While I was running the car at highway speeds it ran perfectly on either pump and when I selected the ?off? position it slowly lost power as I expected it to?but in no way like it had suddenly twice died 15 or so minutes earlier. This indicated I was not dealing with a fuel issue but rather something related either to the ignition system or to the primary wires that run to it. <br></div><div dir="ltr">> <br></div><div dir="ltr">> <br></div><div dir="ltr">> This morning I dove a bit deeper to try and diagnose the problem. The car has a Mallory Unilite ignition system tied to an MSD coil which has been in place and performed faultlessly for a number of years. I removed the distributor cap and everything appears to be okay, at least visually. The interior of the distributor was clean and dry as was the cap, leads, carbon contact, optical reader, etc. Mallory specifies the use of a ballast resistor in the lead from the power source to the coil and with the engine fast-idling I tested 12.5 VDC to the resistor and about 5.5-6 VDC out of it and at the positive coil terminal. <br></div><div dir="ltr">> <br></div><div dir="ltr">> <br></div><div dir="ltr">> I have a large low-oil pressure light that is mounted in the dash in place of the original overdrive switch. It is wired from the ignition switch through a 10 psi normally-closed switch mounted in the oil pressure gauge sender line and then to the light. I point this out because both times when the engine shut down yesterday the light immediately came on, from which I conclude that the ignition switch itself is not the source of the problem. And though I did not remove the ignition key switch the wires to and from it seem tight and intact.<br></div><div dir="ltr">> <br></div><div dir="ltr">> <br></div><div dir="ltr">> So my question is: What do I do? I hate to throw parts at it without finding something that appears to be defective but I don?t know where to start any further tests, etc. I also don?t want to simply wait for the issue to happen again. BTW over the weekend I drove about 150 miles with no issues whatever. Beyond installing four new plugs last week I have not performed any work related to the ignition system. All suggestions/questions welcome?.<br></div><div dir="ltr">> <br></div><div dir="ltr">> Best--Michael Oritt, BN1<br></div><div dir="ltr">> _______________________________________________<br></div><div dir="ltr">> Support Team.Net <a href="http://www.team.net/donate.html" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">> Suggested annual donation $12.75<br></div><div dir="ltr">> <br></div><div dir="ltr">> Archive: <a href="http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys " target="_blank">http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys </a><a href="http://autox.team.net/archive" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/archive</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">> <br></div><div dir="ltr">> <a ymailto="mailto:Healeys@autox.team.net" href="mailto:Healeys@autox.team.net">Healeys@autox.team.net</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">> <a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">> <br></div><div dir="ltr">> Unsubscribe/Manage: <a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bluehealey@gmail.com" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bluehealey@gmail.com</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">> <br></div><div dir="ltr">-------------- next part --------------<br></div><div dir="ltr">An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br></div><div dir="ltr">URL: <<a href="http://autox.team.net/pipermail/healeys/attachments/20190319/db83bfe8/attachment-0001.html" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/pipermail/healeys/attachments/20190319/db83bfe8/attachment-0001.html</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">------------------------------<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Message: 4<br></div><div dir="ltr">Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2019 17:41:51 -0400<br></div><div dir="ltr">From: "skip saunders" <<a ymailto="mailto:tfsbj7@gmail.com" href="mailto:tfsbj7@gmail.com">tfsbj7@gmail.com</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">To: "'Michael Oritt'" <<a ymailto="mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com" href="mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com">michael.oritt@gmail.com</a>>, "'Austin Healey'"<br></div><div dir="ltr"> <<a ymailto="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net" href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [Healeys] Car dies suddenly<br></div><div dir="ltr">Message-ID: <000001d4de9c$907d4420$b177cc60$@gmail.com><br></div><div dir="ltr">Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Many years ago, I had the exact same experience. It turned out to be a faulty ignition key switch. When jouncing around the weight of the key (and associated other keys) would seem to move the switch ever so slightly. I did an autopsy on the switch?.turned out to be extremely robust plastic/bakelite but very flimsy metal innards. I replaced the switch with a GM switch (this was many many years ago?.before concourse was even a thought in my head) and drove the car for another 50-60k miles?. <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"> <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Best Wishes <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">-skip-<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"> <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"> <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">From: Healeys [mailto:<a ymailto="mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net" href="mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>] On Behalf Of Michael Oritt<br></div><div dir="ltr">Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2019 1:46 PM<br></div><div dir="ltr">To: Austin Healey<br></div><div dir="ltr">Subject: [Healeys] Car dies suddenly<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"> <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Yesterday morning I went out for a drive and after about five miles the car suddenly died. There was no rough running, sputtering or missing leading up to it?the car simply died. I coasted to the side of the road and after about 30 seconds since the key was still on I pushed the start button. To my surprise the car started immediately, revved freely and idled smoothly. A bit perplexed I decided to drive on to see what would happen now that I was paying close attention. The car accelerated smoothly and ran fine for about 1/2 mile and then it died again in the same manner as earlier. I shut off the key, popped the hood and examined the ignition system. Everything seemed fine?all spark plug leads were firmly in place as was the lead from the coil to the distributor. The power wires to the coil were tight and the harness/connector to the distributor (see below) seemed fine.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">After scratching my head for a couple of minutes I got in the car, turned on the ignition and pushed the start button. Again, the car started right up and ran normally. With fingers crossed I headed for my shop/garage, about ten miles away and got there without any further event. Though the problem did not seem to be fuel related I decided to verify that this was not a fuel delivery issue. I have a double-headed SU fuel pump wired to a switch mounted just behind the driver?s seat which allows me to switch between pumps as well as turn the fuel pump off. While I was running the car at highway speeds it ran perfectly on either pump and when I selected the ?off? position it slowly lost power as I expected it to?but in no way like it had suddenly twice died 15 or so minutes earlier. This indicated I was not dealing with a fuel issue but rather something related either to the ignition system or to the primary wires that run to it. <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">This morning I dove a bit deeper to try and diagnose the problem. The car has a Mallory Unilite ignition system tied to an MSD coil which has been in place and performed faultlessly for a number of years. I removed the distributor cap and everything appears to be okay, at least visually. The interior of the distributor was clean and dry as was the cap, leads, carbon contact, optical reader, etc. Mallory specifies the use of a ballast resistor in the lead from the power source to the coil and with the engine fast-idling I tested 12.5 VDC to the resistor and about 5.5-6 VDC out of it and at the positive coil terminal. <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">I have a large low-oil pressure light that is mounted in the dash in place of the original overdrive switch. It is wired from the ignition switch through a 10 psi normally-closed switch mounted in the oil pressure gauge sender line and then to the light. I point this out because both times when the engine shut down yesterday the light immediately came on, from which I conclude that the ignition switch itself is not the source of the problem. And though I did not remove the ignition key switch the wires to and from it seem tight and intact.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">So my question is: What do I do? I hate to throw parts at it without finding something that appears to be defective but I don?t know where to start any further tests, etc. I also don?t want to simply wait for the issue to happen again. BTW over the weekend I drove about 150 miles with no issues whatever. Beyond installing four new plugs last week I have not performed any work related to the ignition system. All suggestions/questions welcome?.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"> <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Best--Michael Oritt, BN1<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">-------------- next part --------------<br></div><div dir="ltr">An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br></div><div dir="ltr">URL: <<a href="http://autox.team.net/pipermail/healeys/attachments/20190319/4f248849/attachment-0001.html" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/pipermail/healeys/attachments/20190319/4f248849/attachment-0001.html</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">------------------------------<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Message: 5<br></div><div dir="ltr">Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2019 19:25:14 -0400 (EDT)<br></div><div dir="ltr">From: Charles Schott <<a ymailto="mailto:schottc@knology.net" href="mailto:schottc@knology.net">schottc@knology.net</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">To: Len and/or Marge Hartnett <<a ymailto="mailto:thehartnetts@earthlink.net" href="mailto:thehartnetts@earthlink.net">thehartnetts@earthlink.net</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Cc: AH Mail List <<a ymailto="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net" href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [Healeys] Gearbox Noise<br></div><div dir="ltr">Message-ID:<br></div><div dir="ltr"> <<a ymailto="mailto:189186061.2815522.1553037914250.JavaMail.zimbra@knology.net" href="mailto:189186061.2815522.1553037914250.JavaMail.zimbra@knology.net">189186061.2815522.1553037914250.JavaMail.zimbra@knology.net</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">I just spent the whole afternoon getting it out and will open up it tomorrow. <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Regards, <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Charlie <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">----- Original Message -----<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">From: "Len and/or Marge Hartnett" <<a ymailto="mailto:thehartnetts@earthlink.net" href="mailto:thehartnetts@earthlink.net">thehartnetts@earthlink.net</a>> <br></div><div dir="ltr">To: "AH Mail List" <<a ymailto="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net" href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a>> <br></div><div dir="ltr">Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2019 10:56:10 AM <br></div><div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [Healeys] Gearbox Noise <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">How to get it back in! Been there. Done that. <br></div><div dir="ltr">(The Other) Len <br></div><div dir="ltr">Fairfield, CA, USA <br></div><div dir="ltr">1967 AH 3000 MkIII, HBJ8L39031 <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">----- Original Message ----- <br></div><div dir="ltr">From: Charles Schott <br></div><div dir="ltr">To: Tom <br></div><div dir="ltr">Cc: Healey Mail List <br></div><div dir="ltr">Sent: Monday, March 18, 2019 3:36 PM <br></div><div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [Healeys] Gearbox Noise <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><blockquote><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">I have a very loud banging noise in my gearbox in reverse (1960 BT7 w/overdrive) It's much less noticeable in first and second and I cannot hear it at all in third and fourth. Also, the O/D started working intermittently and now it's not working <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><blockquote><br></div><div dir="ltr">at all. The O/D cut out switch on the gearbox is working properly. I'm planning on pulling the gearbox out and I think I can get it out from above. <br></div><div dir="ltr"></blockquote><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Does anyone have any ideas about what might be causing the noise? What should I be looking for when I get it out? Thanks. <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Regards, <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Charlie Schott <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><blockquote><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">_______________________________________________ <br></div><div dir="ltr">Support Team.Net <a href="http://www.team.net/donate.html " target="_blank">http://www.team.net/donate.html </a>Suggested annual donation $12.75 <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Archive: <a href="http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys " target="_blank">http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys </a><a href="http://autox.team.net/archive " target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/archive </a><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><a ymailto="mailto:Healeys@autox.team.net" href="mailto:Healeys@autox.team.net">Healeys@autox.team.net</a> <br></div><div 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dir="ltr">From: Michael Salter <<a ymailto="mailto:michael.salter@gmail.com" href="mailto:michael.salter@gmail.com">michael.salter@gmail.com</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">To: <a ymailto="mailto:simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com" href="mailto:simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com">simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">Cc: Austin Healey <<a ymailto="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net" href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [Healeys] Car dies suddenly<br></div><div dir="ltr">Message-ID:<br></div><div dir="ltr"> <<a ymailto="mailto:CAB3i7LKjePQjA-pNp4SOsMMTAVpJ_iMQmNzzkEOKEXupJSJDuQ@mail.gmail.com" href="mailto:CAB3i7LKjePQjA-pNp4SOsMMTAVpJ_iMQmNzzkEOKEXupJSJDuQ@mail.gmail.com">CAB3i7LKjePQjA-pNp4SOsMMTAVpJ_iMQmNzzkEOKEXupJSJDuQ@mail.gmail.com</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Hi Michael,<br></div><div dir="ltr">100's do have the master switch grounding wire to the master switch so it<br></div><div dir="ltr">might well be worth checking.<br></div><div dir="ltr">The symptoms sound very similar to those I encountered with a faulty coil.<br></div><div dir="ltr">Mine would run for about 30 minutes fairly consistently before suddenly<br></div><div dir="ltr">dying.<br></div><div dir="ltr">Even when the engine would not start the bad coil still produced a<br></div><div dir="ltr">significant spark each time the open points were shorted with a screwdriver<br></div><div dir="ltr">which I at the time, mistakenly, felt confirmed that the coil was actually<br></div><div dir="ltr">okay ... it wasn't.<br></div><div dir="ltr">I was only able to confirm that the villain was in fact the coil by<br></div><div dir="ltr">installing a replacement.<br></div><div dir="ltr">I have encountered very similar symptoms with a faulty condenser which was<br></div><div dir="ltr">confirmed by spraying it sparingly with ether to cool it down and then<br></div><div dir="ltr">finding that the engine started immediately.<br></div><div dir="ltr">As I'm sure you are aware a fuel delivery problem never causes the engine<br></div><div dir="ltr">to stop dead ... it typically sort of peters out!!<br></div><div dir="ltr"> I would recommend trying the condenser trick and then, if a regular coil<br></div><div dir="ltr">can be used as a substitute for the Mallory try a substitution.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">M<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">I wonder where the term "peters out" comes from ... Google time.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 2:13 PM <<a ymailto="mailto:simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com" href="mailto:simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com">simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">> I?m presuming that the car?s a 100? You make reference to 4 plugs?..<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> Do 100s have the dreaded white wire from the on/off switch in the boot? Do<br></div><div dir="ltr">> 100s have the switch even? Anyhow, that wire shorting out has caused<br></div><div dir="ltr">> endless tears.<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> Or is it a black/white wire?<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> Worth a look.<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> Simon<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> *From:* Healeys <<a ymailto="mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net" href="mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>> *On Behalf Of *Michael<br></div><div dir="ltr">> Oritt<br></div><div dir="ltr">> *Sent:* 19 March 2019 17:46<br></div><div dir="ltr">> *To:* Austin Healey <<a ymailto="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net" href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">> *Subject:* [Healeys] Car dies suddenly<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> Yesterday morning I went out for a drive and after about five miles the<br></div><div dir="ltr">> car suddenly died. There was no rough running, sputtering or missing<br></div><div dir="ltr">> leading up to it?the car simply died. I coasted to the side of the road and<br></div><div dir="ltr">> after about 30 seconds since the key was still on I pushed the start<br></div><div dir="ltr">> button. To my surprise the car started immediately, revved freely and idled<br></div><div dir="ltr">> smoothly. A bit perplexed I decided to drive on to see what would happen<br></div><div dir="ltr">> now that I was paying close attention. The car accelerated smoothly and ran<br></div><div dir="ltr">> fine for about 1/2 mile and then it died again in the same manner as<br></div><div dir="ltr">> earlier. I shut off the key, popped the hood and examined the ignition<br></div><div dir="ltr">> system. Everything seemed fine?all spark plug leads were firmly in place as<br></div><div dir="ltr">> was the lead from the coil to the distributor. The power wires to the coil<br></div><div dir="ltr">> were tight and the harness/connector to the distributor (see below) seemed<br></div><div dir="ltr">> fine.<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> After scratching my head for a couple of minutes I got in the car, turned<br></div><div dir="ltr">> on the ignition and pushed the start button. Again, the car started right<br></div><div dir="ltr">> up and ran normally. With fingers crossed I headed for my shop/garage,<br></div><div dir="ltr">> about ten miles away and got there without any further event. Though the<br></div><div dir="ltr">> problem did not seem to be fuel related I decided to verify that this was<br></div><div dir="ltr">> not a fuel delivery issue. I have a double-headed SU fuel pump wired to a<br></div><div dir="ltr">> switch mounted just behind the driver?s seat which allows me to switch<br></div><div dir="ltr">> between pumps as well as turn the fuel pump off. While I was running the<br></div><div dir="ltr">> car at highway speeds it ran perfectly on either pump and when I selected<br></div><div dir="ltr">> the ?off? position it slowly lost power as I expected it to?but in no way<br></div><div dir="ltr">> like it had suddenly twice died 15 or so minutes earlier. This indicated I<br></div><div dir="ltr">> was not dealing with a fuel issue but rather something related either to<br></div><div dir="ltr">> the ignition system or to the primary wires that run to it.<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> This morning I dove a bit deeper to try and diagnose the problem. The car<br></div><div dir="ltr">> has a Mallory Unilite ignition system tied to an MSD coil which has been in<br></div><div dir="ltr">> place and performed faultlessly for a number of years. I removed the<br></div><div dir="ltr">> distributor cap and everything appears to be okay, at least visually. The<br></div><div dir="ltr">> interior of the distributor was clean and dry as was the cap, leads, carbon<br></div><div dir="ltr">> contact, optical reader, etc. Mallory specifies the use of a ballast<br></div><div dir="ltr">> resistor in the lead from the power source to the coil and with the engine<br></div><div dir="ltr">> fast-idling I tested 12.5 VDC to the resistor and about 5.5-6 VDC out of it<br></div><div dir="ltr">> and at the positive coil terminal.<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> I have a large low-oil pressure light that is mounted in the dash in place<br></div><div dir="ltr">> of the original overdrive switch. It is wired from the ignition switch<br></div><div dir="ltr">> through a 10 psi normally-closed switch mounted in the oil pressure gauge<br></div><div dir="ltr">> sender line and then to the light. I point this out because both times when<br></div><div dir="ltr">> the engine shut down yesterday the light immediately came on, from which I<br></div><div dir="ltr">> conclude that the ignition switch itself is not the source of the problem.<br></div><div dir="ltr">> And though I did not remove the ignition key switch the wires to and from<br></div><div dir="ltr">> it seem tight and intact.<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> So my question is: What do I do? I hate to throw parts at it without<br></div><div dir="ltr">> finding something that appears to be defective but I don?t know where to<br></div><div dir="ltr">> start any further tests, etc. I also don?t want to simply wait for the<br></div><div dir="ltr">> issue to happen again. BTW over the weekend I drove about 150 miles with no<br></div><div dir="ltr">> issues whatever. Beyond installing four new plugs last week I have not<br></div><div dir="ltr">> performed any work related to the ignition system. All<br></div><div dir="ltr">> suggestions/questions welcome?.<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> Best--Michael Oritt, BN1<br></div><div dir="ltr">> _______________________________________________<br></div><div dir="ltr">> Support Team.Net <a href="http://www.team.net/donate.html" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">> Suggested annual donation $12.75<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> Archive: <a href="http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">> <a href="http://autox.team.net/archive" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/archive</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> <a ymailto="mailto:Healeys@autox.team.net" href="mailto:Healeys@autox.team.net">Healeys@autox.team.net</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">> <a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> Unsubscribe/Manage:<br></div><div dir="ltr">> <a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter@gmail.com" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter@gmail.com</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">-------------- next part --------------<br></div><div dir="ltr">An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br></div><div dir="ltr">URL: <<a href="http://autox.team.net/pipermail/healeys/attachments/20190320/e94ca7c5/attachment-0001.html" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/pipermail/healeys/attachments/20190320/e94ca7c5/attachment-0001.html</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">------------------------------<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Message: 7<br></div><div dir="ltr">Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2019 22:07:21 -0400<br></div><div dir="ltr">From: Michael Oritt <<a ymailto="mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com" href="mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com">michael.oritt@gmail.com</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">To: Michael Salter <<a ymailto="mailto:michaelsalter@gmail.com" href="mailto:michaelsalter@gmail.com">michaelsalter@gmail.com</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Cc: Austin Healey <<a ymailto="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net" href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [Healeys] Car dies suddenly<br></div><div dir="ltr">Message-ID:<br></div><div dir="ltr"> <<a ymailto="mailto:CAPTa0B56QVtJUgiAtx1ZgQ3bVGohaY9tYjpm7QdBbQJmwsoy6Q@mail.gmail.com" href="mailto:CAPTa0B56QVtJUgiAtx1ZgQ3bVGohaY9tYjpm7QdBbQJmwsoy6Q@mail.gmail.com">CAPTa0B56QVtJUgiAtx1ZgQ3bVGohaY9tYjpm7QdBbQJmwsoy6Q@mail.gmail.com</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Hi Michael--<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Firstly my condolences to you and your countrymen for the terrible event<br></div><div dir="ltr">that happened last week.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">As to the B/W wire's being the culprit I tore it out long ago and replaced<br></div><div dir="ltr">the stock cutoff switch with a superior marine unit with plated contacts,<br></div><div dir="ltr">so scratch that as a cause. As I posted elsewhere I am hoping to actually<br></div><div dir="ltr">find the definite issue such as a defective component or a failing<br></div><div dir="ltr">connection, etc. rather than launching into replacing coils, changing<br></div><div dir="ltr">disty's etc. and then waiting for something or nothing to happen. I'll<br></div><div dir="ltr">start by going through the ignition circuit beginning with the key switch<br></div><div dir="ltr">and see if I can find the offending bit, etc. If no luck then I'll start<br></div><div dir="ltr">on the Mallory Unilite which, being an electronic system (Hall Effect?) ,<br></div><div dir="ltr">has no condenser.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Thanks for the input and we'll stay in touch--Michael<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 9:34 PM Michael Salter <<a ymailto="mailto:michael.salter@gmail.com" href="mailto:michael.salter@gmail.com">michael.salter@gmail.com</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">wrote:<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">> Hi Michael,<br></div><div dir="ltr">> 100's do have the master switch grounding wire to the master switch so it<br></div><div dir="ltr">> might well be worth checking.<br></div><div dir="ltr">> The symptoms sound very similar to those I encountered with a faulty coil.<br></div><div dir="ltr">> Mine would run for about 30 minutes fairly consistently before suddenly<br></div><div dir="ltr">> dying.<br></div><div dir="ltr">> Even when the engine would not start the bad coil still produced a<br></div><div dir="ltr">> significant spark each time the open points were shorted with a screwdriver<br></div><div dir="ltr">> which I at the time, mistakenly, felt confirmed that the coil was actually<br></div><div dir="ltr">> okay ... it wasn't.<br></div><div dir="ltr">> I was only able to confirm that the villain was in fact the coil by<br></div><div dir="ltr">> installing a replacement.<br></div><div dir="ltr">> I have encountered very similar symptoms with a faulty condenser which was<br></div><div dir="ltr">> confirmed by spraying it sparingly with ether to cool it down and then<br></div><div dir="ltr">> finding that the engine started immediately.<br></div><div dir="ltr">> As I'm sure you are aware a fuel delivery problem never causes the engine<br></div><div dir="ltr">> to stop dead ... it typically sort of peters out!!<br></div><div dir="ltr">> I would recommend trying the condenser trick and then, if a regular coil<br></div><div dir="ltr">> can be used as a substitute for the Mallory try a substitution.<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> M<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> I wonder where the term "peters out" comes from ... Google time.<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 2:13 PM <<a ymailto="mailto:simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com" href="mailto:simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com">simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">>> I?m presuming that the car?s a 100? You make reference to 4 plugs?..<br></div><div dir="ltr">>><br></div><div dir="ltr">>> Do 100s have the dreaded white wire from the on/off switch in the boot?<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> Do 100s have the switch even? Anyhow, that wire shorting out has caused<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> endless tears.<br></div><div dir="ltr">>><br></div><div dir="ltr">>> Or is it a black/white wire?<br></div><div dir="ltr">>><br></div><div dir="ltr">>> Worth a look.<br></div><div dir="ltr">>><br></div><div dir="ltr">>> Simon<br></div><div dir="ltr">>><br></div><div dir="ltr">>><br></div><div dir="ltr">>><br></div><div dir="ltr">>> *From:* Healeys <<a ymailto="mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net" href="mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>> *On Behalf Of *Michael<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> Oritt<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> *Sent:* 19 March 2019 17:46<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> *To:* Austin Healey <<a ymailto="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net" href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">>> *Subject:* [Healeys] Car dies suddenly<br></div><div dir="ltr">>><br></div><div dir="ltr">>><br></div><div dir="ltr">>><br></div><div dir="ltr">>> Yesterday morning I went out for a drive and after about five miles the<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> car suddenly died. There was no rough running, sputtering or missing<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> leading up to it?the car simply died. I coasted to the side of the road and<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> after about 30 seconds since the key was still on I pushed the start<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> button. To my surprise the car started immediately, revved freely and idled<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> smoothly. A bit perplexed I decided to drive on to see what would happen<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> now that I was paying close attention. The car accelerated smoothly and ran<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> fine for about 1/2 mile and then it died again in the same manner as<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> earlier. I shut off the key, popped the hood and examined the ignition<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> system. Everything seemed fine?all spark plug leads were firmly in place as<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> was the lead from the coil to the distributor. The power wires to the coil<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> were tight and the harness/connector to the distributor (see below) seemed<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> fine.<br></div><div dir="ltr">>><br></div><div dir="ltr">>><br></div><div dir="ltr">>> After scratching my head for a couple of minutes I got in the car, turned<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> on the ignition and pushed the start button. Again, the car started right<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> up and ran normally. With fingers crossed I headed for my shop/garage,<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> about ten miles away and got there without any further event. Though the<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> problem did not seem to be fuel related I decided to verify that this was<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> not a fuel delivery issue. I have a double-headed SU fuel pump wired to a<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> switch mounted just behind the driver?s seat which allows me to switch<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> between pumps as well as turn the fuel pump off. While I was running the<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> car at highway speeds it ran perfectly on either pump and when I selected<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> the ?off? position it slowly lost power as I expected it to?but in no way<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> like it had suddenly twice died 15 or so minutes earlier. This indicated I<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> was not dealing with a fuel issue but rather something related either to<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> the ignition system or to the primary wires that run to it.<br></div><div dir="ltr">>><br></div><div dir="ltr">>><br></div><div dir="ltr">>> This morning I dove a bit deeper to try and diagnose the problem. The car<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> has a Mallory Unilite ignition system tied to an MSD coil which has been in<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> place and performed faultlessly for a number of years. I removed the<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> distributor cap and everything appears to be okay, at least visually. The<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> interior of the distributor was clean and dry as was the cap, leads, carbon<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> contact, optical reader, etc. Mallory specifies the use of a ballast<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> resistor in the lead from the power source to the coil and with the engine<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> fast-idling I tested 12.5 VDC to the resistor and about 5.5-6 VDC out of it<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> and at the positive coil terminal.<br></div><div dir="ltr">>><br></div><div dir="ltr">>><br></div><div dir="ltr">>> I have a large low-oil pressure light that is mounted in the dash in<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> place of the original overdrive switch. It is wired from the ignition<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> switch through a 10 psi normally-closed switch mounted in the oil pressure<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> gauge sender line and then to the light. I point this out because both<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> times when the engine shut down yesterday the light immediately came on,<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> from which I conclude that the ignition switch itself is not the source of<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> the problem. And though I did not remove the ignition key switch the wires<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> to and from it seem tight and intact.<br></div><div dir="ltr">>><br></div><div dir="ltr">>><br></div><div dir="ltr">>> So my question is: What do I do? I hate to throw parts at it without<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> finding something that appears to be defective but I don?t know where to<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> start any further tests, etc. I also don?t want to simply wait for the<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> issue to happen again. BTW over the weekend I drove about 150 miles with no<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> issues whatever. Beyond installing four new plugs last week I have not<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> performed any work related to the ignition system. All<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> suggestions/questions welcome?.<br></div><div dir="ltr">>><br></div><div dir="ltr">>><br></div><div dir="ltr">>><br></div><div dir="ltr">>> Best--Michael Oritt, BN1<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> _______________________________________________<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> Support Team.Net <a href="http://www.team.net/donate.html" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">>> Suggested annual donation $12.75<br></div><div dir="ltr">>><br></div><div dir="ltr">>> Archive: <a href="http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">>> <a href="http://autox.team.net/archive" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/archive</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">>><br></div><div dir="ltr">>> <a ymailto="mailto:Healeys@autox.team.net" href="mailto:Healeys@autox.team.net">Healeys@autox.team.net</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">>> <a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">>><br></div><div dir="ltr">>> Unsubscribe/Manage:<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> <a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter@gmail.com" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter@gmail.com</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">>><br></div><div dir="ltr">>><br></div><div dir="ltr">-------------- next part --------------<br></div><div dir="ltr">An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br></div><div dir="ltr">URL: <<a href="http://autox.team.net/pipermail/healeys/attachments/20190319/b763dbdc/attachment-0001.html" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/pipermail/healeys/attachments/20190319/b763dbdc/attachment-0001.html</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">------------------------------<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Message: 8<br></div><div dir="ltr">Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2019 19:29:21 -0700<br></div><div dir="ltr">From: i erbs <<a ymailto="mailto:eyera3000@gmail.com" href="mailto:eyera3000@gmail.com">eyera3000@gmail.com</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">To: Michael Oritt <<a ymailto="mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com" href="mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com">michael.oritt@gmail.com</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Cc: Austin Healey <<a ymailto="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net" href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [Healeys] Car dies suddenly<br></div><div dir="ltr">Message-ID:<br></div><div dir="ltr"> <CABXhz88U7SBUYAKq8TfFrP8sOR=<a ymailto="mailto:kMEXeVKspjeNJnbvaoKfoRg@mail.gmail.com" href="mailto:kMEXeVKspjeNJnbvaoKfoRg@mail.gmail.com">kMEXeVKspjeNJnbvaoKfoRg@mail.gmail.com</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">I'm with everyone else. bypass the battery cut off switch and see if that<br></div><div dir="ltr">fixes the problem.<br></div><div dir="ltr">Ira Erbs<br></div><div dir="ltr">Portland,OR<br></div><div dir="ltr"> _______ _______<br></div><div dir="ltr"> (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______)<br></div><div dir="ltr"> (_________________________)<br></div><div dir="ltr"> BT7 engine and disk brakes<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">1967 MGB [image: MG]<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments. Mario Andretti<br></div><div dir="ltr">Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 1:48 PM Michael Oritt <<a ymailto="mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com" href="mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com">michael.oritt@gmail.com</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">wrote:<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">> Yesterday morning I went out for a drive and after about five miles the<br></div><div dir="ltr">> car suddenly died. There was no rough running, sputtering or missing<br></div><div dir="ltr">> leading up to it?the car simply died. I coasted to the side of the road and<br></div><div dir="ltr">> after about 30 seconds since the key was still on I pushed the start<br></div><div dir="ltr">> button. To my surprise the car started immediately, revved freely and idled<br></div><div dir="ltr">> smoothly. A bit perplexed I decided to drive on to see what would happen<br></div><div dir="ltr">> now that I was paying close attention. The car accelerated smoothly and ran<br></div><div dir="ltr">> fine for about 1/2 mile and then it died again in the same manner as<br></div><div dir="ltr">> earlier. I shut off the key, popped the hood and examined the ignition<br></div><div dir="ltr">> system. Everything seemed fine?all spark plug leads were firmly in place as<br></div><div dir="ltr">> was the lead from the coil to the distributor. The power wires to the coil<br></div><div dir="ltr">> were tight and the harness/connector to the distributor (see below) seemed<br></div><div dir="ltr">> fine.<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> After scratching my head for a couple of minutes I got in the car, turned<br></div><div dir="ltr">> on the ignition and pushed the start button. Again, the car started right<br></div><div dir="ltr">> up and ran normally. With fingers crossed I headed for my shop/garage,<br></div><div dir="ltr">> about ten miles away and got there without any further event. Though the<br></div><div dir="ltr">> problem did not seem to be fuel related I decided to verify that this was<br></div><div dir="ltr">> not a fuel delivery issue. I have a double-headed SU fuel pump wired to a<br></div><div dir="ltr">> switch mounted just behind the driver?s seat which allows me to switch<br></div><div dir="ltr">> between pumps as well as turn the fuel pump off. While I was running the<br></div><div dir="ltr">> car at highway speeds it ran perfectly on either pump and when I selected<br></div><div dir="ltr">> the ?off? position it slowly lost power as I expected it to?but in no way<br></div><div dir="ltr">> like it had suddenly twice died 15 or so minutes earlier. This indicated I<br></div><div dir="ltr">> was not dealing with a fuel issue but rather something related either to<br></div><div dir="ltr">> the ignition system or to the primary wires that run to it.<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> This morning I dove a bit deeper to try and diagnose the problem. The car<br></div><div dir="ltr">> has a Mallory Unilite ignition system tied to an MSD coil which has been in<br></div><div dir="ltr">> place and performed faultlessly for a number of years. I removed the<br></div><div dir="ltr">> distributor cap and everything appears to be okay, at least visually. The<br></div><div dir="ltr">> interior of the distributor was clean and dry as was the cap, leads, carbon<br></div><div dir="ltr">> contact, optical reader, etc. Mallory specifies the use of a ballast<br></div><div dir="ltr">> resistor in the lead from the power source to the coil and with the engine<br></div><div dir="ltr">> fast-idling I tested 12.5 VDC to the resistor and about 5.5-6 VDC out of it<br></div><div dir="ltr">> and at the positive coil terminal.<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> I have a large low-oil pressure light that is mounted in the dash in place<br></div><div dir="ltr">> of the original overdrive switch. It is wired from the ignition switch<br></div><div dir="ltr">> through a 10 psi normally-closed switch mounted in the oil pressure gauge<br></div><div dir="ltr">> sender line and then to the light. I point this out because both times when<br></div><div dir="ltr">> the engine shut down yesterday the light immediately came on, from which I<br></div><div dir="ltr">> conclude that the ignition switch itself is not the source of the problem.<br></div><div dir="ltr">> And though I did not remove the ignition key switch the wires to and from<br></div><div dir="ltr">> it seem tight and intact.<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> So my question is: What do I do? I hate to throw parts at it without<br></div><div dir="ltr">> finding something that appears to be defective but I don?t know where to<br></div><div dir="ltr">> start any further tests, etc. I also don?t want to simply wait for the<br></div><div dir="ltr">> issue to happen again. BTW over the weekend I drove about 150 miles with no<br></div><div dir="ltr">> issues whatever. Beyond installing four new plugs last week I have not<br></div><div dir="ltr">> performed any work related to the ignition system. All<br></div><div dir="ltr">> suggestions/questions welcome?.<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> Best--Michael Oritt, BN1<br></div><div dir="ltr">> _______________________________________________<br></div><div dir="ltr">> Support Team.Net <a href="http://www.team.net/donate.html" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">> Suggested annual donation $12.75<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> Archive: <a href="http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">> <a href="http://autox.team.net/archive" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/archive</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> <a ymailto="mailto:Healeys@autox.team.net" href="mailto:Healeys@autox.team.net">Healeys@autox.team.net</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">> <a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> Unsubscribe/Manage:<br></div><div dir="ltr">> <a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000@gmail.com" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000@gmail.com</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">-------------- next part --------------<br></div><div dir="ltr">An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br></div><div dir="ltr">URL: <<a href="http://autox.team.net/pipermail/healeys/attachments/20190319/1cb42bb5/attachment-0001.html" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/pipermail/healeys/attachments/20190319/1cb42bb5/attachment-0001.html</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">------------------------------<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Message: 9<br></div><div dir="ltr">Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2019 20:49:46 -0600<br></div><div dir="ltr">From: Engl <<a ymailto="mailto:engl@accesscomm.ca" href="mailto:engl@accesscomm.ca">engl@accesscomm.ca</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">To: Michael Oritt <<a ymailto="mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com" href="mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com">michael.oritt@gmail.com</a>>, Austin Healey<br></div><div dir="ltr"> <<a ymailto="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net" href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [Healeys] Car dies suddenly<br></div><div dir="ltr">Message-ID: <<a ymailto="mailto:21AFD356-BFD4-4194-A638-0F07EB2C526C@accesscomm.ca" href="mailto:21AFD356-BFD4-4194-A638-0F07EB2C526C@accesscomm.ca">21AFD356-BFD4-4194-A638-0F07EB2C526C@accesscomm.ca</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Michael<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">You?ve had some great suggestions from a couple of others, but if those issues don?t seem to fix the problem, try a different coil. I had the exact same issues on my E a couple of years ago - turned out to be a wonky 10 year old Lucas Sportcoil. <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Bob England<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">> On Mar 19, 2019, at 11:45 AM, Michael Oritt <<a ymailto="mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com" href="mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com">michael.oritt@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><div dir="ltr">> <br></div><div dir="ltr">> Yesterday morning I went out for a drive and after about five miles the car suddenly died. There was no rough running, sputtering or missing leading up to it?the car simply died. I coasted to the side of the road and after about 30 seconds since the key was still on I pushed the start button. To my surprise the car started immediately, revved freely and idled smoothly. A bit perplexed I decided to drive on to see what would happen now that I was paying close attention. The car accelerated smoothly and ran fine for about 1/2 mile and then it died again in the same manner as earlier. I shut off the key, popped the hood and examined the ignition system. Everything seemed fine?all spark plug leads were firmly in place as was the lead from the coil to the distributor. The power wires to the coil were tight and the harness/connector to the distributor (see below) seemed fine.<br></div><div dir="ltr">> <br></div><div dir="ltr">> <br></div><div dir="ltr">> After scratching my head for a couple of minutes I got in the car, turned on the ignition and pushed the start button. Again, the car started right up and ran normally. With fingers crossed I headed for my shop/garage, about ten miles away and got there without any further event. Though the problem did not seem to be fuel related I decided to verify that this was not a fuel delivery issue. I have a double-headed SU fuel pump wired to a switch mounted just behind the driver?s seat which allows me to switch between pumps as well as turn the fuel pump off. While I was running the car at highway speeds it ran perfectly on either pump and when I selected the ?off? position it slowly lost power as I expected it to?but in no way like it had suddenly twice died 15 or so minutes earlier. This indicated I was not dealing with a fuel issue but rather something related either to the ignition system or to the primary wires that run to it. <br></div><div dir="ltr">> <br></div><div dir="ltr">> <br></div><div dir="ltr">> This morning I dove a bit deeper to try and diagnose the problem. The car has a Mallory Unilite ignition system tied to an MSD coil which has been in place and performed faultlessly for a number of years. I removed the distributor cap and everything appears to be okay, at least visually. The interior of the distributor was clean and dry as was the cap, leads, carbon contact, optical reader, etc. Mallory specifies the use of a ballast resistor in the lead from the power source to the coil and with the engine fast-idling I tested 12.5 VDC to the resistor and about 5.5-6 VDC out of it and at the positive coil terminal. <br></div><div dir="ltr">> <br></div><div dir="ltr">> <br></div><div dir="ltr">> I have a large low-oil pressure light that is mounted in the dash in place of the original overdrive switch. It is wired from the ignition switch through a 10 psi normally-closed switch mounted in the oil pressure gauge sender line and then to the light. I point this out because both times when the engine shut down yesterday the light immediately came on, from which I conclude that the ignition switch itself is not the source of the problem. And though I did not remove the ignition key switch the wires to and from it seem tight and intact.<br></div><div dir="ltr">> <br></div><div dir="ltr">> <br></div><div dir="ltr">> So my question is: What do I do? I hate to throw parts at it without finding something that appears to be defective but I don?t know where to start any further tests, etc. I also don?t want to simply wait for the issue to happen again. BTW over the weekend I drove about 150 miles with no issues whatever. Beyond installing four new plugs last week I have not performed any work related to the ignition system. All suggestions/questions welcome?.<br></div><div dir="ltr">> <br></div><div dir="ltr">> Best--Michael Oritt, BN1<br></div><div dir="ltr">> _______________________________________________<br></div><div dir="ltr">> Support Team.Net <a href="http://www.team.net/donate.html" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">> Suggested annual donation $12.75<br></div><div dir="ltr">> <br></div><div dir="ltr">> Archive: <a href="http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys " target="_blank">http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys </a><a href="http://autox.team.net/archive" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/archive</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">> <br></div><div dir="ltr">> <a ymailto="mailto:Healeys@autox.team.net" href="mailto:Healeys@autox.team.net">Healeys@autox.team.net</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">> <a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">> <br></div><div dir="ltr">> Unsubscribe/Manage: <a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/engl@accesscomm.ca" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/engl@accesscomm.ca</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">> <br></div><div dir="ltr">-------------- next part --------------<br></div><div dir="ltr">An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br></div><div dir="ltr">URL: <<a href="http://autox.team.net/pipermail/healeys/attachments/20190319/50b86e48/attachment-0001.html" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/pipermail/healeys/attachments/20190319/50b86e48/attachment-0001.html</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">------------------------------<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Message: 10<br></div><div dir="ltr">Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2019 02:57:58 +0000<br></div><div dir="ltr">From: WILLIAM B LAWRENCE <<a ymailto="mailto:ynotink@msn.com" href="mailto:ynotink@msn.com">ynotink@msn.com</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">To: Bluehealey <<a ymailto="mailto:bluehealey@gmail.com" href="mailto:bluehealey@gmail.com">bluehealey@gmail.com</a>>, Michael Oritt<br></div><div dir="ltr"> <<a ymailto="mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com" href="mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com">michael.oritt@gmail.com</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Cc: Austin Healey <<a ymailto="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net" href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [Healeys] Car dies suddenly<br></div><div dir="ltr">Message-ID:<br></div><div dir="ltr"> <<a ymailto="mailto:DM6PR07MB45387DB665592F6674BD9EE6A5410@DM6PR07MB4538.namprd07.prod.outlook.com" href="mailto:DM6PR07MB45387DB665592F6674BD9EE6A5410@DM6PR07MB4538.namprd07.prod.outlook.com">DM6PR07MB45387DB665592F6674BD9EE6A5410@DM6PR07MB4538.namprd07.prod.outlook.com</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr"> <br></div><div dir="ltr">Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Sounds like a bad coil. The problem they have is temperature related with one or the other of the windings having a broken wire which is in contact at lower temperatures, but loses continuity when the coil warms up. I drove my old Range Rover classic 300 miles with this problem once with the coil cutting out every 20 miles or so. It is seared in my mind.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Bill Lawrence<br></div><div dir="ltr">BN1 #554<br></div><div dir="ltr">________________________________<br></div><div dir="ltr">From: Healeys <<a ymailto="mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net" href="mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>> on behalf of Bluehealey <<a ymailto="mailto:bluehealey@gmail.com" href="mailto:bluehealey@gmail.com">bluehealey@gmail.com</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2019 9:36 PM<br></div><div dir="ltr">To: Michael Oritt<br></div><div dir="ltr">Cc: Austin Healey<br></div><div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [Healeys] Car dies suddenly<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Are you using a black rotor arm? I had a similar problem that was resolved by changing to a red rotor with no rivet.<br></div><div dir="ltr">Apparently the black colour of the plastic is created by using carbon - which can be an HT conductor if a crack appears usually from the rivet.<br></div><div dir="ltr">Keep us all in the loop.<br></div><div dir="ltr">Bluehealey.com<<a href="http://Bluehealey.com" target="_blank">http://Bluehealey.com</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Alan - from my iPad<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">On 19 Mar 2019, at 17:45, Michael Oritt <<a ymailto="mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com" href="mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com">michael.oritt@gmail.com</a><mailto:<a ymailto="mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com" href="mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com">michael.oritt@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Yesterday morning I went out for a drive and after about five miles the car suddenly died. There was no rough running, sputtering or missing leading up to it?the car simply died. I coasted to the side of the road and after about 30 seconds since the key was still on I pushed the start button. To my surprise the car started immediately, revved freely and idled smoothly. A bit perplexed I decided to drive on to see what would happen now that I was paying close attention. The car accelerated smoothly and ran fine for about 1/2 mile and then it died again in the same manner as earlier. I shut off the key, popped the hood and examined the ignition system. Everything seemed fine?all spark plug leads were firmly in place as was the lead from the coil to the distributor. The power wires to the coil were tight and the harness/connector to the distributor (see below) seemed fine.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">After scratching my head for a couple of minutes I got in the car, turned on the ignition and pushed the start button. Again, the car started right up and ran normally. With fingers crossed I headed for my shop/garage, about ten miles away and got there without any further event. Though the problem did not seem to be fuel related I decided to verify that this was not a fuel delivery issue. I have a double-headed SU fuel pump wired to a switch mounted just behind the driver?s seat which allows me to switch between pumps as well as turn the fuel pump off. While I was running the car at highway speeds it ran perfectly on either pump and when I selected the ?off? position it slowly lost power as I expected it to?but in no way like it had suddenly twice died 15 or so minutes earlier. This indicated I was not dealing with a fuel issue but rather something related either to the ignition system or to the primary wires that run to it.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">This morning I dove a bit deeper to try and diagnose the problem. The car has a Mallory Unilite ignition system tied to an MSD coil which has been in place and performed faultlessly for a number of years. I removed the distributor cap and everything appears to be okay, at least visually. The interior of the distributor was clean and dry as was the cap, leads, carbon contact, optical reader, etc. Mallory specifies the use of a ballast resistor in the lead from the power source to the coil and with the engine fast-idling I tested 12.5 VDC to the resistor and about 5.5-6 VDC out of it and at the positive coil terminal.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">I have a large low-oil pressure light that is mounted in the dash in place of the original overdrive switch. It is wired from the ignition switch through a 10 psi normally-closed switch mounted in the oil pressure gauge sender line and then to the light. I point this out because both times when the engine shut down yesterday the light immediately came on, from which I conclude that the ignition switch itself is not the source of the problem. And though I did not remove the ignition key switch the wires to and from it seem tight and intact.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">So my question is: What do I do? I hate to throw parts at it without finding something that appears to be defective but I don?t know where to start any further tests, etc. I also don?t want to simply wait for the issue to happen again. BTW over the weekend I drove about 150 miles with no issues whatever. Beyond installing four new plugs last week I have not performed any work related to the ignition system. All suggestions/questions welcome?.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Best--Michael Oritt, BN1<br></div><div dir="ltr">_______________________________________________<br></div><div dir="ltr">Support Team.Net<<a href="http://Team.Net" target="_blank">http://Team.Net</a>> <a href="http://www.team.net/donate.html" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">Suggested annual donation $12.75<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Archive: <a href="http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys " target="_blank">http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys </a><a href="http://autox.team.net/archive" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/archive</a><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><a ymailto="mailto:Healeys@autox.team.net" href="mailto:Healeys@autox.team.net">Healeys@autox.team.net</a><mailto:<a ymailto="mailto:Healeys@autox.team.net" href="mailto:Healeys@autox.team.net">Healeys@autox.team.net</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr"><a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys</a><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Unsubscribe/Manage: <a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bluehealey@gmail.com" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bluehealey@gmail.com</a><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">-------------- next part --------------<br></div><div dir="ltr">An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br></div><div dir="ltr">URL: <<a href="http://autox.team.net/pipermail/healeys/attachments/20190320/4685212c/attachment-0001.html" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/pipermail/healeys/attachments/20190320/4685212c/attachment-0001.html</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">------------------------------<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Message: 11<br></div><div dir="ltr">Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2019 20:02:06 -0700<br></div><div dir="ltr">From: "=?utf-8?Q?healeymanjim?=" <<a ymailto="mailto:healeymanjim@hansencc.net" href="mailto:healeymanjim@hansencc.net">healeymanjim@hansencc.net</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">To: <a ymailto="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net" href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a> <<a ymailto="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net" href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Subject: [Healeys] sudden stop<br></div><div dir="ltr">Message-ID: <<a ymailto="mailto:20190320030206.31219.qmail@server278.com" href="mailto:20190320030206.31219.qmail@server278.com">20190320030206.31219.qmail@server278.com</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">my bj8 was doing the same thing many years back. had a relatively new coil on it, but suspected it might be the culprit. <br></div><div dir="ltr">put an old beat up lucas coil on and it is stopped the problem. coil is still on car and says it was made in 65.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">------------------------------<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Message: 12<br></div><div dir="ltr">Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2019 18:50:09 +1300<br></div><div dir="ltr">From: Michael Salter <<a ymailto="mailto:michael.salter@gmail.com" href="mailto:michael.salter@gmail.com">michael.salter@gmail.com</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">To: Charles Schott <<a ymailto="mailto:schottc@knology.net" href="mailto:schottc@knology.net">schottc@knology.net</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Cc: AH Mail List <<a ymailto="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net" href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [Healeys] Gearbox Noise<br></div><div dir="ltr">Message-ID:<br></div><div dir="ltr"> <CAB3i7LJ=vLGBhSjfVgDQXfRYUh9g2F1mSoMhGikJ+<a ymailto="mailto:634i-ktbw@mail.gmail.com" href="mailto:634i-ktbw@mail.gmail.com">634i-ktbw@mail.gmail.com</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Obviously you aren't on "flat rate" ????<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 6:35 PM Charles Schott <<a ymailto="mailto:schottc@knology.net" href="mailto:schottc@knology.net">schottc@knology.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">> I just spent the whole afternoon getting it out and will open up it<br></div><div dir="ltr">> tomorrow.<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> Regards,<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> Charlie<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> ------------------------------<br></div><div dir="ltr">> *From: *"Len and/or Marge Hartnett" <<a ymailto="mailto:thehartnetts@earthlink.net" href="mailto:thehartnetts@earthlink.net">thehartnetts@earthlink.net</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">> *To: *"AH Mail List" <<a ymailto="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net" href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">> *Sent: *Tuesday, March 19, 2019 10:56:10 AM<br></div><div dir="ltr">> *Subject: *Re: [Healeys] Gearbox Noise<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> ?<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> How to get it back in! Been there. Done that.<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> (The Other) Len<br></div><div dir="ltr">> Fairfield, CA, USA<br></div><div dir="ltr">> 1967 AH 3000 MkIII, HBJ8L39031<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> ----- Original Message -----<br></div><div dir="ltr">> *From:* Charles Schott <<a ymailto="mailto:schottc@knology.net" href="mailto:schottc@knology.net">schottc@knology.net</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">> *To:* Tom <<a ymailto="mailto:ah3000me@gmail.com" href="mailto:ah3000me@gmail.com">ah3000me@gmail.com</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">> *Cc:* Healey Mail List <<a ymailto="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net" href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">> *Sent:* Monday, March 18, 2019 3:36 PM<br></div><div dir="ltr">> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Gearbox Noise<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">>> I have a very loud banging noise in my gearbox in reverse (1960 BT7<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> w/overdrive) It's much less noticeable in first and second and I cannot<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> hear it at all in third and fourth. Also, the O/D started working<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> intermittently and now it's not working<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> at all. The O/D cut out switch on the gearbox is working properly. I'm<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> planning on pulling the gearbox out and I think I can get it out from above.<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> Does anyone have any ideas about what might be causing the noise? What<br></div><div dir="ltr">> should I be looking for when I get it out? 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charset="utf-8"<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Two things that have caused this to happen to me: one was a bad rotor and the other was my Petronix<br></div><div dir="ltr">Jon<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Sent from my iPhone<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">> On Mar 19, 2019, at 10:07 PM, Michael Oritt <<a ymailto="mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com" href="mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com">michael.oritt@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><div dir="ltr">> <br></div><div dir="ltr">> Hi Michael--<br></div><div dir="ltr">> <br></div><div dir="ltr">> Firstly my condolences to you and your countrymen for the terrible event that happened last week. <br></div><div dir="ltr">> <br></div><div dir="ltr">> As to the B/W wire's being the culprit I tore it out long ago and replaced the stock cutoff switch with a superior marine unit with plated contacts, so scratch that as a cause. As I posted elsewhere I am hoping to actually find the definite issue such as a defective component or a failing connection, etc. rather than launching into replacing coils, changing disty's etc. and then waiting for something or nothing to happen. I'll start by going through the ignition circuit beginning with the key switch and see if I can find the offending bit, etc. If no luck then I'll start on the Mallory Unilite which, being an electronic system (Hall Effect?) , has no condenser.<br></div><div dir="ltr">> <br></div><div dir="ltr">> Thanks for the input and we'll stay in touch--Michael<br></div><div dir="ltr">> <br></div><div dir="ltr">>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 9:34 PM Michael Salter <<a ymailto="mailto:michael.salter@gmail.com" href="mailto:michael.salter@gmail.com">michael.salter@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> Hi Michael,<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> 100's do have the master switch grounding wire to the master switch so it might well be worth checking.<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> The symptoms sound very similar to those I encountered with a faulty coil. Mine would run for about 30 minutes fairly consistently before suddenly dying. <br></div><div dir="ltr">>> Even when the engine would not start the bad coil still produced a significant spark each time the open points were shorted with a screwdriver which I at the time, mistakenly, felt confirmed that the coil was actually okay ... it wasn't.<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> I was only able to confirm that the villain was in fact the coil by installing a replacement.<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> I have encountered very similar symptoms with a faulty condenser which was confirmed by spraying it sparingly with ether to cool it down and then finding that the engine started immediately.<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> As I'm sure you are aware a fuel delivery problem never causes the engine to stop dead ... it typically sort of peters out!!<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> I would recommend trying the condenser trick and then, if a regular coil can be used as a substitute for the Mallory try a substitution.<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> <br></div><div dir="ltr">>> M<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> <br></div><div dir="ltr">>> I wonder where the term "peters out" comes from ... Google time.<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> <br></div><div dir="ltr">>> <br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 2:13 PM <<a ymailto="mailto:simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com" href="mailto:simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com">simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> I?m presuming that the car?s a 100? You make reference to 4 plugs?..<br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> <br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> Do 100s have the dreaded white wire from the on/off switch in the boot? Do 100s have the switch even? Anyhow, that wire shorting out has caused endless tears.<br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> <br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> Or is it a black/white wire?<br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> <br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> Worth a look.<br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> <br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> Simon<br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> <br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> <br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> <br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> From: Healeys <<a ymailto="mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net" href="mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>> On Behalf Of Michael Oritt<br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> Sent: 19 March 2019 17:46<br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> To: Austin Healey <<a ymailto="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net" href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> Subject: [Healeys] Car dies suddenly<br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> <br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> <br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> <br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> Yesterday morning I went out for a drive and after about five miles the car suddenly died. There was no rough running, sputtering or missing leading up to it?the car simply died. I coasted to the side of the road and after about 30 seconds since the key was still on I pushed the start button. To my surprise the car started immediately, revved freely and idled smoothly. A bit perplexed I decided to drive on to see what would happen now that I was paying close attention. The car accelerated smoothly and ran fine for about 1/2 mile and then it died again in the same manner as earlier. I shut off the key, popped the hood and examined the ignition system. Everything seemed fine?all spark plug leads were firmly in place as was the lead from the coil to the distributor. The power wires to the coil were tight and the harness/connector to the distributor (see below) seemed fine.<br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> <br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> <br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> After scratching my head for a couple of minutes I got in the car, turned on the ignition and pushed the start button. Again, the car started right up and ran normally. With fingers crossed I headed for my shop/garage, about ten miles away and got there without any further event. Though the problem did not seem to be fuel related I decided to verify that this was not a fuel delivery issue. I have a double-headed SU fuel pump wired to a switch mounted just behind the driver?s seat which allows me to switch between pumps as well as turn the fuel pump off. While I was running the car at highway speeds it ran perfectly on either pump and when I selected the ?off? position it slowly lost power as I expected it to?but in no way like it had suddenly twice died 15 or so minutes earlier. This indicated I was not dealing with a fuel issue but rather something related either to the ignition system or to the primary wires that run to it. <br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> <br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> <br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> This morning I dove a bit deeper to try and diagnose the problem. The car has a Mallory Unilite ignition system tied to an MSD coil which has been in place and performed faultlessly for a number of years. I removed the distributor cap and everything appears to be okay, at least visually. The interior of the distributor was clean and dry as was the cap, leads, carbon contact, optical reader, etc. Mallory specifies the use of a ballast resistor in the lead from the power source to the coil and with the engine fast-idling I tested 12.5 VDC to the resistor and about 5.5-6 VDC out of it and at the positive coil terminal. <br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> <br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> <br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> I have a large low-oil pressure light that is mounted in the dash in place of the original overdrive switch. It is wired from the ignition switch through a 10 psi normally-closed switch mounted in the oil pressure gauge sender line and then to the light. I point this out because both times when the engine shut down yesterday the light immediately came on, from which I conclude that the ignition switch itself is not the source of the problem. And though I did not remove the ignition key switch the wires to and from it seem tight and intact.<br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> <br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> <br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> So my question is: What do I do? I hate to throw parts at it without finding something that appears to be defective but I don?t know where to start any further tests, etc. I also don?t want to simply wait for the issue to happen again. BTW over the weekend I drove about 150 miles with no issues whatever. Beyond installing four new plugs last week I have not performed any work related to the ignition system. All suggestions/questions welcome?.<br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> <br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> <br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> <br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> Best--Michael Oritt, BN1<br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> <br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> _______________________________________________<br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> Support Team.Net <a href="http://www.team.net/donate.html" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> Suggested annual donation $12.75<br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> <br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> Archive: <a href="http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys " target="_blank">http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys </a><a href="http://autox.team.net/archive" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/archive</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> <br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> <a ymailto="mailto:Healeys@autox.team.net" href="mailto:Healeys@autox.team.net">Healeys@autox.team.net</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> <a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> <br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: <a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter@gmail.com" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter@gmail.com</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> <br></div><div dir="ltr">> _______________________________________________<br></div><div dir="ltr">> Support Team.Net <a href="http://www.team.net/donate.html" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">> Suggested annual donation $12.75<br></div><div dir="ltr">> <br></div><div dir="ltr">> Archive: <a href="http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys " target="_blank">http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys </a><a href="http://autox.team.net/archive" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/archive</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">> <br></div><div dir="ltr">> <a ymailto="mailto:Healeys@autox.team.net" href="mailto:Healeys@autox.team.net">Healeys@autox.team.net</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">> <a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">> <br></div><div dir="ltr">> Unsubscribe/Manage: <a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/einhornlawoffice@gmail.com" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/einhornlawoffice@gmail.com</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">> <br></div><div dir="ltr">-------------- next part --------------<br></div><div dir="ltr">An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br></div><div dir="ltr">URL: <<a href="http://autox.team.net/pipermail/healeys/attachments/20190320/f7240705/attachment-0001.html" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/pipermail/healeys/attachments/20190320/f7240705/attachment-0001.html</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">------------------------------<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Message: 14<br></div><div dir="ltr">Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2019 07:08:39 -0400 (EDT)<br></div><div dir="ltr">From: Tom Felts <<a ymailto="mailto:tomfelts@windstream.net" href="mailto:tomfelts@windstream.net">tomfelts@windstream.net</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">To: Jonathan Einhorn <<a ymailto="mailto:einhornlawoffice@gmail.com" href="mailto:einhornlawoffice@gmail.com">einhornlawoffice@gmail.com</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Cc: Austin Healey <<a ymailto="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net" href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [Healeys] Car dies suddenly<br></div><div dir="ltr">Message-ID:<br></div><div dir="ltr"> <<a ymailto="mailto:1307766788.17004904.1553080119370.JavaMail.zimbra@windstream.net" href="mailto:1307766788.17004904.1553080119370.JavaMail.zimbra@windstream.net">1307766788.17004904.1553080119370.JavaMail.zimbra@windstream.net</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">I always thought that if a Pertronix goes it goes completely, not stop and go. I could be wrong, but this is what I have been told many times.tom<br></div><div dir="ltr">----- Original Message -----<br></div><div dir="ltr">From: Jonathan Einhorn <<a ymailto="mailto:einhornlawoffice@gmail.com" href="mailto:einhornlawoffice@gmail.com">einhornlawoffice@gmail.com</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">To: Michael Oritt <<a ymailto="mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com" href="mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com">michael.oritt@gmail.com</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Cc: Austin Healey <<a ymailto="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net" href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Sent: Wed, 20 Mar 2019 05:08:09 -0400 (EDT)<br></div><div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [Healeys] Car dies suddenly<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Two things that have caused this to happen to me: one was a bad rotor and the other was my PetronixJon<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Sent from my iPhone<br></div><div dir="ltr">On Mar 19, 2019, at 10:07 PM, Michael Oritt <<a ymailto="mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com" href="mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com">michael.oritt@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Hi Michael--<br></div><div dir="ltr">Firstly my condolences to you and your countrymen for the terrible event that happened last week. <br></div><div dir="ltr">As to the B/W wire's being the culprit I tore it out long ago and replaced the stock cutoff switch with a superior marine unit with plated contacts, so scratch that as a cause. As I posted elsewhere I am hoping to actually find the definite issue such as a defective component or a failing connection, etc. rather than launching into replacing coils, changing disty's etc. and then waiting for something or nothing to happen. I'll start by going through the ignition circuit beginning with the key switch and see if I can find the offending bit, etc. If no luck then I'll start on the Mallory Unilite which, being an electronic system (Hall Effect?) , has no condenser.<br></div><div dir="ltr">Thanks for the input and we'll stay in touch--Michael<br></div><div dir="ltr">On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 9:34 PM Michael Salter <<a ymailto="mailto:michael.salter@gmail.com" href="mailto:michael.salter@gmail.com">michael.salter@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><div dir="ltr">Hi Michael,<br></div><div dir="ltr">100's do have the master switch grounding wire to the master switch so it might well be worth checking.The symptoms sound very similar to those I encountered with a faulty coil. Mine would run for about 30 minutes fairly consistently before suddenly dying. <br></div><div dir="ltr">Even when the engine would not start the bad coil still produced a significant spark each time the open points were shorted with a screwdriver which I at the time, mistakenly, felt confirmed that the coil was actually okay ... it wasn't.<br></div><div dir="ltr">I was only able to confirm that the villain was in fact the coil by installing a replacement.I have encountered very similar symptoms with a faulty condenser which was confirmed by spraying it sparingly with ether to cool it down and then finding that the engine started immediately.As I'm sure you are aware a fuel delivery problem never causes the engine to stop dead ... it typically sort of peters out!!<br></div><div dir="ltr"> I would recommend trying the condenser trick and then, if a regular coil can be used as a substitute for the Mallory try a substitution.<br></div><div dir="ltr">M<br></div><div dir="ltr">I wonder where the term "peters out" comes from ... Google time.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 2:13 PM <<a ymailto="mailto:simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com" href="mailto:simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com">simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><div dir="ltr">I?m presuming that the car?s a 100? You make reference to 4 plugs?..Do 100s have the dreaded white wire from the on/off switch in the boot? Do 100s have the switch even? Anyhow, that wire shorting out has caused endless tears.Or is it a black/white wire?Worth a look.Simon From: Healeys <<a ymailto="mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net" href="mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>> On Behalf Of Michael Oritt<br></div><div dir="ltr">Sent: 19 March 2019 17:46<br></div><div dir="ltr">To: Austin Healey <<a ymailto="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net" href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Subject: [Healeys] Car dies suddenly Yesterday morning I went out for a drive and after about five miles the car suddenly died. There was no rough running, sputtering or missing leading up to it?the car simply died. I coasted to the side of the road and after about 30 seconds since the key was still on I pushed the start button. To my surprise the car started immediately, revved freely and idled smoothly. A bit perplexed I decided to drive on to see what would happen now that I was paying close attention. The car accelerated smoothly and ran fine for about 1/2 mile and then it died again in the same manner as earlier. I shut off the key, popped the hood and examined the ignition system. Everything seemed fine?all spark plug leads were firmly in place as was the lead from the coil to the distributor. The power wires to the coil were tight and the harness/connector to the distributor (see below) seemed fine.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">After scratching my head for a couple of minutes I got in the car, turned on the ignition and pushed the start button. Again, the car started right up and ran normally. With fingers crossed I headed for my shop/garage, about ten miles away and got there without any further event. Though the problem did not seem to be fuel related I decided to verify that this was not a fuel delivery issue. I have a double-headed SU fuel pump wired to a switch mounted just behind the driver?s seat which allows me to switch between pumps as well as turn the fuel pump off. While I was running the car at highway speeds it ran perfectly on either pump and when I selected the ?off? position it slowly lost power as I expected it to?but in no way like it had suddenly twice died 15 or so minutes earlier. This indicated I was not dealing with a fuel issue but rather something related either to the ignition system or to the primary wires that run to it. <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">This morning I dove a bit deeper to try and diagnose the problem. The car has a Mallory Unilite ignition system tied to an MSD coil which has been in place and performed faultlessly for a number of years. I removed the distributor cap and everything appears to be okay, at least visually. The interior of the distributor was clean and dry as was the cap, leads, carbon contact, optical reader, etc. Mallory specifies the use of a ballast resistor in the lead from the power source to the coil and with the engine fast-idling I tested 12.5 VDC to the resistor and about 5.5-6 VDC out of it and at the positive coil terminal. <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">I have a large low-oil pressure light that is mounted in the dash in place of the original overdrive switch. It is wired from the ignition switch through a 10 psi normally-closed switch mounted in the oil pressure gauge sender line and then to the light. I point this out because both times when the engine shut down yesterday the light immediately came on, from which I conclude that the ignition switch itself is not the source of the problem. And though I did not remove the ignition key switch the wires to and from it seem tight and intact.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">So my question is: What do I do? I hate to throw parts at it without finding something that appears to be defective but I don?t know where to start any further tests, etc. I also don?t want to simply wait for the issue to happen again. BTW over the weekend I drove about 150 miles with no issues whatever. Beyond installing four new plugs last week I have not performed any work related to the ignition system. All suggestions/questions welcome?. 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On the reverse side.<br></div><div dir="ltr">And some collateral damage on 1st on the cluster/ 1st slider gear. <br></div><div dir="ltr">Love to hear the outcome of the autopsy. <br></div><div dir="ltr">Good luck, and carefully check/ strain the contents of the oil before removal. <br></div><div dir="ltr">Best<br></div><div dir="ltr">Chris<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">> On 19 Mar 2019, at 9:36 am, Charles Schott <<a ymailto="mailto:schottc@knology.net" href="mailto:schottc@knology.net">schottc@knology.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><div dir="ltr">> <br></div><div dir="ltr">> <br></div><div dir="ltr">>> <br></div><div dir="ltr">>> I have a very loud banging noise in my gearbox in reverse (1960 BT7 w/overdrive) It's much less noticeable in first and second and I cannot hear it at all in third and fourth. Also, the O/D started working intermittently and now it's not working <br></div><div dir="ltr">>> at all. The O/D cut out switch on the gearbox is working properly. 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href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [Healeys] Car dies suddenly<br></div><div dir="ltr">Message-ID: <000501d4df20$6bfb3600$43f1a200$@alexarevel.plus.com><br></div><div dir="ltr">Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Yes, that?s what I?d always thought. But, I suppose, thinking something doesn?t always make it so.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Simon<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"> <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">From: Healeys <<a ymailto="mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net" href="mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>> On Behalf Of Tom Felts<br></div><div dir="ltr">Sent: 20 March 2019 11:09<br></div><div dir="ltr">To: Jonathan Einhorn <<a ymailto="mailto:einhornlawoffice@gmail.com" href="mailto:einhornlawoffice@gmail.com">einhornlawoffice@gmail.com</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Cc: Austin Healey <<a ymailto="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net" href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [Healeys] Car dies suddenly<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"> <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">I always thought that if a Pertronix goes it goes completely, not stop and go. I could be wrong, but this is what I have been told many times.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">tom<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"> <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">----- Original Message -----<br></div><div dir="ltr">From: Jonathan Einhorn <<a ymailto="mailto:einhornlawoffice@gmail.com" href="mailto:einhornlawoffice@gmail.com">einhornlawoffice@gmail.com</a> <mailto:<a ymailto="mailto:einhornlawoffice@gmail.com" href="mailto:einhornlawoffice@gmail.com">einhornlawoffice@gmail.com</a>> ><br></div><div dir="ltr">To: Michael Oritt <<a ymailto="mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com" href="mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com">michael.oritt@gmail.com</a> <mailto:<a ymailto="mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com" href="mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com">michael.oritt@gmail.com</a>> ><br></div><div dir="ltr">Cc: Austin Healey <<a ymailto="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net" href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a> <mailto:<a ymailto="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net" href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a>> ><br></div><div dir="ltr">Sent: Wed, 20 Mar 2019 05:08:09 -0400 (EDT)<br></div><div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [Healeys] Car dies suddenly<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"> <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Two things that have caused this to happen to me: one was a bad rotor and the other was my Petronix<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Jon<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"> <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Sent from my iPhone<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">On Mar 19, 2019, at 10:07 PM, Michael Oritt <<a ymailto="mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com" href="mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com">michael.oritt@gmail.com</a> <mailto:<a ymailto="mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com" href="mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com">michael.oritt@gmail.com</a>> > wrote:<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"> <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Hi Michael--<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"> <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Firstly my condolences to you and your countrymen for the terrible event that happened last week. <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"> <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">As to the B/W wire's being the culprit I tore it out long ago and replaced the stock cutoff switch with a superior marine unit with plated contacts, so scratch that as a cause. As I posted elsewhere I am hoping to actually find the definite issue such as a defective component or a failing connection, etc. rather than launching into replacing coils, changing disty's etc. and then waiting for something or nothing to happen. I'll start by going through the ignition circuit beginning with the key switch and see if I can find the offending bit, etc. If no luck then I'll start on the Mallory Unilite which, being an electronic system (Hall Effect?) , has no condenser.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"> <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Thanks for the input and we'll stay in touch--Michael<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"> <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 9:34 PM Michael Salter <<a ymailto="mailto:michael.salter@gmail.com" href="mailto:michael.salter@gmail.com">michael.salter@gmail.com</a> <mailto:<a ymailto="mailto:michael.salter@gmail.com" href="mailto:michael.salter@gmail.com">michael.salter@gmail.com</a>> > wrote:<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Hi Michael,<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">100's do have the master switch grounding wire to the master switch so it might well be worth checking.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">The symptoms sound very similar to those I encountered with a faulty coil. Mine would run for about 30 minutes fairly consistently before suddenly dying. <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Even when the engine would not start the bad coil still produced a significant spark each time the open points were shorted with a screwdriver which I at the time, mistakenly, felt confirmed that the coil was actually okay ... it wasn't.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">I was only able to confirm that the villain was in fact the coil by installing a replacement.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">I have encountered very similar symptoms with a faulty condenser which was confirmed by spraying it sparingly with ether to cool it down and then finding that the engine started immediately.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">As I'm sure you are aware a fuel delivery problem never causes the engine to stop dead ... it typically sort of peters out!!<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"> I would recommend trying the condenser trick and then, if a regular coil can be used as a substitute for the Mallory try a substitution.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"> <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">M<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"> <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">I wonder where the term "peters out" comes from ... Google time.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"> <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"> <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 2:13 PM <<a ymailto="mailto:simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com" href="mailto:simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com">simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com</a> <mailto:<a ymailto="mailto:simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com" href="mailto:simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com">simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com</a>> > wrote:<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">I?m presuming that the car?s a 100? You make reference to 4 plugs?..<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Do 100s have the dreaded white wire from the on/off switch in the boot? Do 100s have the switch even? Anyhow, that wire shorting out has caused endless tears.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Or is it a black/white wire?<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Worth a look.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Simon<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"> <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">From: Healeys <<a ymailto="mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net" href="mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a> <mailto:<a ymailto="mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net" href="mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>> > On Behalf Of Michael Oritt<br></div><div dir="ltr">Sent: 19 March 2019 17:46<br></div><div dir="ltr">To: Austin Healey <<a ymailto="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net" href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a> <mailto:<a ymailto="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net" href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a>> ><br></div><div dir="ltr">Subject: [Healeys] Car dies suddenly<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"> <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Yesterday morning I went out for a drive and after about five miles the car suddenly died. There was no rough running, sputtering or missing leading up to it?the car simply died. I coasted to the side of the road and after about 30 seconds since the key was still on I pushed the start button. To my surprise the car started immediately, revved freely and idled smoothly. A bit perplexed I decided to drive on to see what would happen now that I was paying close attention. The car accelerated smoothly and ran fine for about 1/2 mile and then it died again in the same manner as earlier. I shut off the key, popped the hood and examined the ignition system. Everything seemed fine?all spark plug leads were firmly in place as was the lead from the coil to the distributor. The power wires to the coil were tight and the harness/connector to the distributor (see below) seemed fine.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"> <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">After scratching my head for a couple of minutes I got in the car, turned on the ignition and pushed the start button. Again, the car started right up and ran normally. With fingers crossed I headed for my shop/garage, about ten miles away and got there without any further event. Though the problem did not seem to be fuel related I decided to verify that this was not a fuel delivery issue. I have a double-headed SU fuel pump wired to a switch mounted just behind the driver?s seat which allows me to switch between pumps as well as turn the fuel pump off. While I was running the car at highway speeds it ran perfectly on either pump and when I selected the ?off? position it slowly lost power as I expected it to?but in no way like it had suddenly twice died 15 or so minutes earlier. This indicated I was not dealing with a fuel issue but rather something related either to the ignition system or to the primary wires that run to it. <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"> <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">This morning I dove a bit deeper to try and diagnose the problem. The car has a Mallory Unilite ignition system tied to an MSD coil which has been in place and performed faultlessly for a number of years. I removed the distributor cap and everything appears to be okay, at least visually. The interior of the distributor was clean and dry as was the cap, leads, carbon contact, optical reader, etc. Mallory specifies the use of a ballast resistor in the lead from the power source to the coil and with the engine fast-idling I tested 12.5 VDC to the resistor and about 5.5-6 VDC out of it and at the positive coil terminal. <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"> <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">I have a large low-oil pressure light that is mounted in the dash in place of the original overdrive switch. It is wired from the ignition switch through a 10 psi normally-closed switch mounted in the oil pressure gauge sender line and then to the light. I point this out because both times when the engine shut down yesterday the light immediately came on, from which I conclude that the ignition switch itself is not the source of the problem. And though I did not remove the ignition key switch the wires to and from it seem tight and intact.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"> <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">So my question is: What do I do? I hate to throw parts at it without finding something that appears to be defective but I don?t know where to start any further tests, etc. I also don?t want to simply wait for the issue to happen again. BTW over the weekend I drove about 150 miles with no issues whatever. Beyond installing four new plugs last week I have not performed any work related to the ignition system. All suggestions/questions welcome?.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"> <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Best--Michael Oritt, BN1<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">_______________________________________________<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"> <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Support Team.Net <<a href="http://Team.Net" target="_blank">http://Team.Net</a>> <a href="http://www.team.net/donate.html" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"> <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Suggested annual donation $12.75<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"> <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Archive: <a href="http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeyshttp://autox.team.net/archive" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeyshttp://autox.team.net/archive</a><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"> <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><a ymailto="mailto:Healeys@autox.team.net" href="mailto:Healeys@autox.team.net">Healeys@autox.team.net</a> <mailto:<a ymailto="mailto:Healeys@autox.team.net" href="mailto:Healeys@autox.team.net">Healeys@autox.team.net</a>> <br></div><div dir="ltr"><a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys</a><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"> <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Unsubscribe/Manage: <a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter@gmail.com" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter@gmail.com</a><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"> <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">_______________________________________________<br></div><div dir="ltr">Support Team.Net <<a href="http://Team.Net" target="_blank">http://Team.Net</a>> <a href="http://www.team.net/donate.html" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">Suggested annual donation $12.75<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Archive: <a href="http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeyshttp://autox.team.net/archive" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeyshttp://autox.team.net/archive</a><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><a ymailto="mailto:Healeys@autox.team.net" href="mailto:Healeys@autox.team.net">Healeys@autox.team.net</a> <mailto:<a ymailto="mailto:Healeys@autox.team.net" href="mailto:Healeys@autox.team.net">Healeys@autox.team.net</a>> <br></div><div dir="ltr"><a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys</a><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Unsubscribe/Manage: <a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/einhornlawoffice@gmail.com" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/einhornlawoffice@gmail.com</a><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"> <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">-------------- next part --------------<br></div><div dir="ltr">An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br></div><div dir="ltr">URL: <<a href="http://autox.team.net/pipermail/healeys/attachments/20190320/cd7e24eb/attachment-0001.html" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/pipermail/healeys/attachments/20190320/cd7e24eb/attachment-0001.html</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">------------------------------<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Message: 17<br></div><div dir="ltr">Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2019 06:52:09 -0700<br></div><div dir="ltr">From: "Bruce Steele" <<a ymailto="mailto:healeybruce@roadrunner.com" href="mailto:healeybruce@roadrunner.com">healeybruce@roadrunner.com</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">To: "'Chris Dimmock'" <<a ymailto="mailto:austin.healey@gmail.com" href="mailto:austin.healey@gmail.com">austin.healey@gmail.com</a>>, "'Charles Schott'"<br></div><div dir="ltr"> <<a ymailto="mailto:schottc@knology.net" href="mailto:schottc@knology.net">schottc@knology.net</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Cc: 'Healey Mail List' <<a ymailto="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net" href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [Healeys] Gearbox Noise<br></div><div dir="ltr">Message-ID: <04f901d4df24$1e4a9cd0$5adfd670$@roadrunner.com><br></div><div dir="ltr">Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">I agree with Chris. That was my experience. Now I have a cluster gear paper weight.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"> <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Bruce Steele<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Brea, CA<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">1960 BN7<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"> <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">From: Healeys [mailto:<a ymailto="mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net" href="mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>] On Behalf Of Chris Dimmock<br></div><div dir="ltr">Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2019 5:04 AM<br></div><div dir="ltr">To: Charles Schott <<a ymailto="mailto:schottc@knology.net" href="mailto:schottc@knology.net">schottc@knology.net</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Cc: Healey Mail List <<a ymailto="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net" href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [Healeys] Gearbox Noise<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"> <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">My money is on a broken/ missing tooth on the 1st/ reverse idler. On the reverse side.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">And some collateral damage on 1st on the cluster/ 1st slider gear. <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Love to hear the outcome of the autopsy. <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Good luck, and carefully check/ strain the contents of the oil before removal. <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Best<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Chris<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">On 19 Mar 2019, at 9:36 am, Charles Schott <<a ymailto="mailto:schottc@knology.net" href="mailto:schottc@knology.net">schottc@knology.net</a> <mailto:<a ymailto="mailto:schottc@knology.net" href="mailto:schottc@knology.net">schottc@knology.net</a>> > wrote:<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"> <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">I have a very loud banging noise in my gearbox in reverse (1960 BT7 w/overdrive) It's much less noticeable in first and second and I cannot hear it at all in third and fourth. Also, the O/D started working intermittently and now it's not working <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">at all. The O/D cut out switch on the gearbox is working properly. I'm planning on pulling the gearbox out and I think I can get it out from above.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"> <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Does anyone have any ideas about what might be causing the noise? What should I be looking for when I get it out? 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dir="ltr">Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed"<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">If the starter cranks well and consistently it's not likely the battery <br></div><div dir="ltr">cut-off switch.? I believe Michael indicated he removed the 'anti-theft' <br></div><div dir="ltr">white/black wire.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Bob<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">On 3/19/2019 7:29 PM, i erbs wrote:<br></div><div dir="ltr">> I'm with everyone else. bypass the battery cut off switch and see if <br></div><div dir="ltr">> that fixes the problem.<br></div><div dir="ltr">> Ira Erbs<br></div><div dir="ltr">> Portland,OR<br></div><div dir="ltr">> _______ ? ? ? ? ? ? ?_______<br></div><div dir="ltr">> (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______)<br></div><div dir="ltr">> (_________________________)<br></div><div dir="ltr">> ? ? ? ? ? BT7 engine and disk brakes<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">-------------- next part --------------<br></div><div dir="ltr">An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br></div><div dir="ltr">URL: <<a href="http://autox.team.net/pipermail/healeys/attachments/20190320/36964170/attachment-0001.html" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/pipermail/healeys/attachments/20190320/36964170/attachment-0001.html</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">------------------------------<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Message: 19<br></div><div dir="ltr">Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2019 10:29:11 -0600<br></div><div dir="ltr">From: Mark J Bradakis <<a ymailto="mailto:mark@bradakis.com" href="mailto:mark@bradakis.com">mark@bradakis.com</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">To: <a ymailto="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net" href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [Healeys] Gearbox Noise<br></div><div dir="ltr">Message-ID: <<a ymailto="mailto:5934b943-c2bd-f1ed-1253-17642552b0d9@bradakis.com" href="mailto:5934b943-c2bd-f1ed-1253-17642552b0d9@bradakis.com">5934b943-c2bd-f1ed-1253-17642552b0d9@bradakis.com</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">On 3/19/19 5:25 PM, Charles Schott wrote:<br></div><div dir="ltr">> I just spent the whole afternoon getting it out and will open up it <br></div><div dir="ltr">> tomorrow.<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">Back when I was working at my friend's shop I could drive a TR6 into the <br></div><div dir="ltr">shop (assuming it was driveable!) and 2 hours later the gearbox would be <br></div><div dir="ltr">on the bench ready to start a rebuild.? Proper tools and fancy lifts are <br></div><div dir="ltr">very nice.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">On a side note, won't get to the new server this week, but am shooting <br></div><div dir="ltr">for next week.? Thanks to all those who contributed.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">mjb.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">------------------------------<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Subject: Digest Footer<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">_______________________________________________<br></div><div dir="ltr">Healeys mailing list<br></div><div dir="ltr"><a ymailto="mailto:Healeys@autox.team.net" href="mailto:Healeys@autox.team.net">Healeys@autox.team.net</a><br></div><div dir="ltr"><a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys</a><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">------------------------------<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">End of Healeys Digest, Vol 12, Issue 92<br></div><div dir="ltr">***************************************<br></div></div>
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