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<p>Check the valve clearances at least every 10.000km/6000mls. Easy
job. Do it yourself and do not trust a mechanic doing it properly,
he might or he might not. To many cars suffer a burned valve after
a major service!!!<br>
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<p>Kees Oudesluijs</p>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Op 16-2-2019 om 14:09 schreef
BJ8Healeys:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Comic Sans
MS";color:#002060">Jim, I had my engine rebuilt in 1999
with hardened valves seats and stellite exhaust valves.
When installed, the engine ran just fine. I never bothered
to check or adjust the valve clearances. In 2001, I ended
up with a burned exhaust valve. Since then, I have
checked/adjusted the clearances once a year and no further
valve problems.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Comic Sans
MS";color:#002060">Is that an "old wives tale", or did
I have a bad valve out of the box? <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Comic Sans
MS";color:#002060"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Comic Sans
MS";color:#002060">Steve Byers</span><span
style="color:#002060"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Comic Sans
MS";color:#002060">HBJ8L/36666</span><span
style="color:#002060"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Comic Sans
MS";color:#002060">BJ8 Registry</span><span
style="color:#002060"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Comic Sans
MS";color:#002060">AHCA Delegate at Large</span><span
style="color:#002060"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Comic Sans
MS";color:#002060">Havelock, NC </span><span
style="color:#002060"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
Healeys [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net">mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>] <b>On
Behalf Of </b><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:rjhco@att.net">rjhco@att.net</a><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 12, 2019 10:30 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:michaelsalter@gmail.com">michaelsalter@gmail.com</a>; 'WILLIAM B LAWRENCE'<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Valve clearances<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Mike,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">You are correct that the valve train
components change very, very little. Expansion of components
causing valves to not close is an old wives tale that gets
repeated many times until shade tree mechanics turn it into
gospel…… Burned valves are caused by other design, assembly
or materials factors.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Best regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Jim<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Healeys
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net"><healeys-bounces@autox.team.net></a> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Michael
Salter<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, January 13, 2019 5:23 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> WILLIAM B LAWRENCE <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:ynotink@msn.com"><ynotink@msn.com></a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Valve clearances<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">This is another subject that I often
wonder about. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">If the valve clearance is there to
ensure that the valves are fully closed when the engine is
hot then why, when I check the clearances on a hot engine
after a dyno run, are they hardly any less than they were
cold?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I can appreciate that the valve train
components grow because of the heat but surely the block
and head and rocker shaft pedistals also grow and thus
there is little if any net change.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I also appreciate that the exhaust
valve stem get really hot but ????<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Just wondering....<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">M<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Sun, Jan 13, 2019, 6:42 AM WILLIAM B
LAWRENCE <<a href="mailto:ynotink@msn.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">ynotink@msn.com</a> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">I disagree that
valve clearances are not critical. As the engine
comes up to temperature the metal parts of the valve
train (valves, lifters, push rods, the head itself
and the rocker shaft towers) increase in length and
the valve clearances are calculated to assure that
this expansion isn't allowed to affect the sealing
of the valves on their seats. If the valves are set
too tight they reach a point where they won't touch
the seats and therefore won't seal. Hot gases
rushing through the gaps will quickly erode the
valves. Also i<span style="background:white">ncreasing
the duration and/or lift of the cam has the effect
of the decreasing the length of the opening and
closing ramps on the back side of the cam This
reduces the length of time (dwell) the valve
remains on the seat. Increasing the valve
clearance restores the dwell time the valve needs
to transfer its heat load to the cooling system
through the valve seat and the cylinder head. Too
little dwell time or the lack of proper valve
sealing are two causes of burned valves.</span><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">In my own
experience I installed an Isky cam with a grind a
little more aggressive than the 100M cam and set the
clearances to 0.012" per the manual. Within about
2,000 miles the exhaust valves were trashed. I then
took the time to read the Isky installation
instructions which specifically state the valve
clearance needs to be set to 0.018". I re-installed
the head with new valves and set them to Isky's spec
and never had another problem with burned valves.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Follow the cam
grinder's recommendations and you will avoid
trouble.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Bill Lawrence<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">BN1 #554<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black">From:</span></b><span
style="color:black"> Healeys <<a
href="mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>>
on behalf of Bob Spidell <<a
href="mailto:bspidell@comcast.net" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">bspidell@comcast.net</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, January 12, 2019 11:10 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Michael MacLean; <a
href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">healeys@autox.team.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Valve clearances</span>
<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style="background:white">I should note the rockers
are pretty noisy at 0.015; IIRC I tightened them up
just a bit.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white">On
1/12/2019 2:39 PM, Michael MacLean wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New
Roman","serif"">I'd go with
.016. You can always tighten it. Better
loose than tight.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New
Roman","serif"">Mike MacLean<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New
Roman","serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282A">On
Saturday, January 12, 2019, 11:01:32 AM PST,
Bob Spidell <a
href="mailto:bspidell@comcast.net"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><bspidell@comcast.net></a>
wrote: <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style="background:white"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282A">Makes
sense (for some reason). I put a DWR1
cam in my BJ8 which, according to DWR,
'is a little better than the BJ8 cam and
so works well in any standard or mildly
tuned car' but I think the 0.015"
applies to all profiles on the spec
sheet.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="background:white"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282A">Bob<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="background:white"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282A">On
1/11/2019 8:48 PM, John Rowe wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p
class="m1603937236670712738xyiv1110160614msonormal"
style="background:white"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Simon,</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p
class="m1603937236670712738xyiv1110160614msonormal"
style="background:white"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Modified
cams require the large clearance
(don’t ask me why?) So go for .015
that is what mine is.</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p
class="m1603937236670712738xyiv1110160614msonormal"
style="background:white"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">John
Rowe</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p
class="m1603937236670712738xyiv1110160614msonormal"
style="background:white"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Qld</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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class="m1603937236670712738xyiv1110160614msonormal"
style="background:white"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Australia</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p
class="m1603937236670712738xyiv1110160614msonormal"
style="background:white"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="background:white"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282A">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282A">
Healeys [<a
href="mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b><a
href="mailto:simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com</a><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, 12
January 2019 9:14 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Healeys<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Healeys] Valve
clearances<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p
class="m1603937236670712738xyiv1110160614msonormal"
style="background:white"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282A"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p
class="m1603937236670712738xyiv1110160614msonormal"
style="background:white"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282A"
lang="EN-GB">The car is a MkII BT7.</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p
class="m1603937236670712738xyiv1110160614msonormal"
style="background:white"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282A"
lang="EN-GB">The BMC manual says
adjust the clearances, cold, to
0.012”.</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p
class="m1603937236670712738xyiv1110160614msonormal"
style="background:white"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282A"
lang="EN-GB">Denis Welch said I
should go 0.015”, cold, after
fitting their “Fast Road” cam.</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p
class="m1603937236670712738xyiv1110160614msonormal"
style="background:white"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282A"
lang="EN-GB">The rolling road guy
said 0.016”, warm.</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p
class="m1603937236670712738xyiv1110160614msonormal"
style="background:white"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282A"
lang="EN-GB"> </span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p
class="m1603937236670712738xyiv1110160614msonormal"
style="background:white"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282A"
lang="EN-GB">I have the radiator out
right now so I can get a nice socket
onto that nut and have a go at the
clearances.</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p
class="m1603937236670712738xyiv1110160614msonormal"
style="background:white"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282A"
lang="EN-GB">Stick with 0.015”,
cold?</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p
class="m1603937236670712738xyiv1110160614msonormal"
style="background:white"><span
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