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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-GB link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>That’s wrong. My MkII BT7 certainly does. Can’t remember about the Mk Is etc.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Bill Bolton, Mr Tricarb himself, was always very keen to get those numbers for his archive.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>The numbers are fairly hard to access unless the front end is pretty much stripped down. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>See attached. Not mine. Can’t remember whose….maybe Bill sent it to me to show where to look.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>He pointed out that they can get virtually lost under a few coats of paint.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Simon<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US> Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> <b>On Behalf Of </b>i erbs<br><b>Sent:</b> 16 October 2018 18:31<br><b>To:</b> Charlie Baldwin <mgcharlie@comcast.net><br><b>Cc:</b> Ahealey help <healeys@autox.team.net><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] BJ8 at RM Hershey auction<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>BT7 3000s did not have the # stamped on the shock towers.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><br clear=all><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Ira Erbs<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Portland,OR<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'> _______ _______<br> (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______)<br> (_________________________)</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> BT7 engine and disk brakes<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>1967 MGB <img id="_x0000_i1025" src="http://www.britishcarspecialists.com/assets/images/MG_emblem.jpg" alt=MG><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#333333'>A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments. Mario Andretti</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 10:07 AM Charlie Baldwin <<a href="mailto:mgcharlie@comcast.net">mgcharlie@comcast.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><div><p>From what I understand, earlier 3000s have a number stamped there, but it doesn't match any other other number on the car, but BJ8s do have the chassis number there.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 10/15/2018 8:06 PM, Curtis Arndt wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>So Charlie, <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Yes, 3000s should have the chassis number stamped on the right front shock tower. <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>To be clear, Phase I BJ8's (1964) looked very similar to BJ7's. They had <u>glass</u> "Beehive" front parking/side and rear stop lights, reflectors, the pull versus the push-button door handles and the lower rear axle. They DID have the wood dash and of course the larger engine making them BJ8s not BJ7s.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Here's a nice example in Black w/red interior... <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><a href="https://www.erclassics.com/austin-healey-3000-bj8-1964-a0747/#lg=1&slide=13" target="_blank">https://www.erclassics.com/austin-healey-3000-bj8-1964-a0747/#lg=1&slide=13</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Now Phase II BJ8's came in a number of variations. When they first came out in 1964-5 they now had the single plastic lights front and rear with the reflectors, the jacked up rear end, and push button door handles.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Here's another nice example in Black w/red interior...<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><a href="https://rmsothebys.com/en/auctions/mo17/auction/lots/r169-1964-austin-healey-3000-mk-iii-bj8-phase-ii" target="_blank">https://rmsothebys.com/en/auctions/mo17/auction/lots/r169-1964-austin-healey-3000-mk-iii-bj8-phase-ii</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>In '66 and '67 we have the final version with all plastic lights, two front and two rear.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>One final example in Black over Red w/ a red interior...<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><a href="https://www.tradeuniquecars.com.au/detail/austinhealey-3000-544721" target="_blank">https://www.tradeuniquecars.com.au/detail/austinhealey-3000-544721</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>This should clear things up.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Cheers,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Curt<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Mon, Oct 15, 2018 at 3:49 PM Charlie Baldwin <<a href="mailto:mgcharlie@comcast.net" target="_blank">mgcharlie@comcast.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><div><p>So Curt, you may be saying that this car does not match what a car with that chassis number should look like. Don't BJ8s have the chassis number stamped on the right front shock mount? So it may be titled with the wrong chassis number. That is a greater concern to me than being the wrong color or having poorly fitting seat covers. The poorly stamped chassis number plate could be part of the issue also.<o:p></o:p></p><p>When I saw it on the screen when it came up for auction, I thought that it probably isn't really a '65 due to the double parking/ts lights. Then I figured it was just an error on the year they put on the title. But this is much more serious an issue since the chassis number does not indicate it is a Phase 2 BJ8, when it definitely looks like one.<o:p></o:p></p><p>Charlie<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 10/15/2018 1:04 PM, Curtis Arndt wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>FWIW...<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>Obviously, there are some issues with this car. <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Regarding the seats, I agree, the fit is terrible and that also brings up another issue in that the vast majority of US delivered convertibles came with vinyl interiors, and it was a very rare option to have leather seats. I don't know the percentage off the top of my head, but it may have been less than 5%. I will check.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=m-3509005414954637105m-2897248659280525698m-1532920764489079262gmail-fontstyle0><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"BookmanOldStyle",serif;color:black'><Leather on BJ8’s was an option on home market cars (England). Very few original American LHD BJ8 have been observed with leather seats -- </span></span><span class=m-3509005414954637105m-2897248659280525698m-1532920764489079262gmail-fontstyle2><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial-BoldMT",serif;color:black'>“Leather trim for seats, armrest and rear folding squabs” </span></b></span><span class=m-3509005414954637105m-2897248659280525698m-1532920764489079262gmail-fontstyle0><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"BookmanOldStyle",serif;color:black'>was listed as an available option for BJ8's.></span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>For me the biggest potential issue is that this car is supposedly a 1965 (chassis no. <u>30659</u>), and as such it would have had the single plastic side lights up front and also in the rear, with reflectors instead of the second set of amber plastic turn signal lights? <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>From the 2018 Guidelines...<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=m-3509005414954637105m-2897248659280525698m-1532920764489079262gmail-fontstyle0><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"BookmanOldStyle",serif;color:black'><</span></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"BookmanOldStyle",serif;color:black'>BJ8s from Car No. 26705 have a single front parking/turn flasher unit with a white plastic lens that is larger and flatter in profile (Lucas type 692), up <span class=m-3509005414954637105m-2897248659280525698m-1532920764489079262gmail-fontstyle0>through Phase II BJ8 (C) <u>31337</u> (B) 76137.</span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=m-3509005414954637105m-2897248659280525698m-1532920764489079262gmail-fontstyle0><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"BookmanOldStyle",serif;color:black'>Rear combination tail/turn signal/brake lights with a single beehive-shaped red lens, on the fender just above the bumper, were used on all Healeys up to Phase II BJ8 Car No. <u>31336</u> (B) 76138 (type 594 on 100-6 and 3000s to c. 26704). With that car, the upper reflectors were replaced with separate turn-signal lights (with a larger body fairing) and amber plastic lenses and the lower lights were </span></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"BookmanOldStyle",serif;color:black'>replaced with tail/brake lights with red plastic lenses. Both upper and lower lights <span class=m-3509005414954637105m-2897248659280525698m-1532920764489079262gmail-fontstyle0>on these later cars were Lucas type 692 through the end of production.></span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Did anyone else notice in the very first photo the right front wing wheel opening? The metal work looks a bit inconsistent and the opening is not consistently round? Compare to the right rear wheel opening. Maybe it's the angle of the photo, I don't know? The left front opening looks much better.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>All this said, it's easy to pick a car apart and overall, any criticisms can be repaired, albeit at a cost, but then the high bid of $67.5K may reflect these observations. It is an overall good looking car none the less, even with its flaws.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Cheers,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Curt<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Mon, Oct 15, 2018 at 8:45 AM Charlie Baldwin <<a href="mailto:mgcharlie@comcast.net" target="_blank">mgcharlie@comcast.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Steve, I'm glad you have it in the registry.<br>Someone told me on Saturday at the Hershey car show that it was restored there, but I didn't know for sure, so didn't want to credit/blame them.<br>It appears that leather seat covers were installed, but not very well as someone else mentioned.<br><br><br>> On October 15, 2018 at 9:11 AM BJ8Healeys <<a href="mailto:sbyers@ec.rr.com" target="_blank">sbyers@ec.rr.com</a>> wrote:<br>> <br>> <br>> Charlie Baldwin: strange that I never received your original message via the list (yet).<br>> <br>> Yes, I have the car in the registry. One previous owner recorded in New Hampshire (AHCA member 1990 - 1999), then restoration by Knut Holzer's BMC Classics in April 2008.<br>> <br>> Steve Byers<br>> HBJ8L/36666<br>> BJ8 Registry<br>> AHCA Delegate at Large<br>> Havelock, NC <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> -----Original Message-----<br>> From: Healeys [mailto:<a href="mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net" target="_blank">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>] On Behalf Of Bob Spidell<br>> Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2018 12:44 PM<br>> To: <a href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net" target="_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a><br>> Subject: Re: [Healeys] BJ8 at RM Hershey auction<br>> <br>> Not MGB, but 'champagne.' Was that an original color? This one came <br>> from the factory in white; maybe that's why it didn't sell?<br>> <br>> Not the best seat upholstery I've seen, and is the shift lever bent, or <br>> is it an illusion? And the fluid reservoir spoils an otherwise nice <br>> engine bay presentation. Nice car, nonetheless.<br>> <br>> Bob<br>> <br>> <br>> On 10/14/2018 8:17 AM, Charlie Baldwin wrote:<br>> > Here is a Metallic Golden Beige BJ8 that was in the auction, but <br>> > apparently didn't make reserve. I think the hammer price was <br>> > $67,500. Comments anyone? Steve Byers, is this one in your register?<br>> ><br>> > <a href="https://rmsothebys.com/en/auctions/hf18/hershey/lots/r0137-1965-austin-healey-3000-mk-iii-bj8/721386" target="_blank">https://rmsothebys.com/en/auctions/hf18/hershey/lots/r0137-1965-austin-healey-3000-mk-iii-bj8/721386</a> <br>> ><br>> ><br>> <br>> _______________________________________________<br>> Support Team.Net <a href="http://www.team.net/donate.html" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br>> Suggested annual donation $12.75<br>> <br>> Archive: <a href="http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys</a> <a href="http://autox.team.net/archive" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/archive</a><br>> <br>> <a href="mailto:Healeys@autox.team.net" target="_blank">Healeys@autox.team.net</a><br>> <a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys</a><br>> <br>> Unsubscribe/Manage: <a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/sbyers@ec.rr.com" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/sbyers@ec.rr.com</a><br>> <br>> <br>> _______________________________________________<br>> Support Team.Net <a href="http://www.team.net/donate.html" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br>> Suggested annual donation $12.75<br>> <br>> Archive: <a href="http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys</a> <a href="http://autox.team.net/archive" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/archive</a><br>> <br>> <a href="mailto:Healeys@autox.team.net" target="_blank">Healeys@autox.team.net</a><br>> <a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys</a><br>> <br>> Unsubscribe/Manage: <a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/mgcharlie@comcast.net" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/mgcharlie@comcast.net</a><br>><br>_______________________________________________<br>Support Team.Net <a href="http://www.team.net/donate.html" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br>Suggested annual donation $12.75<br><br>Archive: <a href="http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys</a> <a href="http://autox.team.net/archive" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/archive</a><br><br><a href="mailto:Healeys@autox.team.net" target="_blank">Healeys@autox.team.net</a><br><a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys</a><br><br>Unsubscribe/Manage: <a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/cnaarndt@gmail.com" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/cnaarndt@gmail.com</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></blockquote></div></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>_______________________________________________<br>Support Team.Net <a href="http://www.team.net/donate.html" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br>Suggested annual donation $12.75<br><br>Archive: <a href="http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys</a> <a href="http://autox.team.net/archive" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/archive</a><br><br><a href="mailto:Healeys@autox.team.net" target="_blank">Healeys@autox.team.net</a><br><a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys</a><br><br>Unsubscribe/Manage: <a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000@gmail.com" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000@gmail.com</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div></div></body></html>