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<DIV> There are two sleeved thermostats available. One is the wax capsule
style and the other is a bellows style. </DIV>
<DIV>The bellows style is an old antique style the I would not recommend.</DIV>
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<DIV>Which style did you have that failed.</DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=eyera3000@gmail.com
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<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, September 13, 2018 4:08 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=bspidell@comcast.net
href="mailto:bspidell@comcast.net">Bob Spidell</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Cc:</B> <A title=healeys@autox.team.net
href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net">Ahealey help</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Healeys] Thermostats</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV>I had a nos sleeved Stat snd it failed just about closed. Caused
overheating. Been using a non sleeved one with no issues. <BR><BR>
<DIV data-smartmail="gmail_signature">Ira Erbs<BR>Portland, OR<BR>typos and
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<DIV dir=ltr>On Thu, Sep 13, 2018, 3:42 PM Bob Spidell <<A
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<P>One other consideration: I have heard--note: hearsay--that the OEM
sleeved stats are of the 'fail closed' variety. Have seen modern ones
called 'fail open' or, even 'failsafe.'</P>
<P>FWIW.</P>
<P>Bob<BR></P><BR>
<DIV class=m_8232586958904510323moz-cite-prefix>On 9/11/2018 3:44 PM, Roger
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<DIV>Steve,</DIV>
<DIV>Yes agree with your take on the 160 F thermostats. The only possible
benefit is that if you start with a lower coolant temp, when you hit
traffic, it will take longer before the dreaded over temp zone is
approached.</DIV>
<DIV>As an aside, I have installed an oil temp gauge; very useful and a
reminder just how long the engine (not coolant) takes to get up to temp.
Trying to get in the habit of not going over 2000 RPM till OT is about 120F
– often another 15-20 mins after the thermostat opens. </DIV>
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<DIV><B>From:</B> <A title=sbyers@ec.rr.com rel=noreferrer>BJ8Healeys</A>
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<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Monday, September 10, 2018 12:44 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=Healeys@autox.team.net rel=noreferrer>'healeys'</A>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Comic Sans MS"; COLOR: #002060'>Fred,
I personally believe a 160-deg. F thermostat used in an effort to "cool
down" a Healey is useless. A thermostat responds only to the
temperature of the coolant flowing through it by opening up to increase
coolant flow, and once it is open all the way at 160+, it is out of the loop
and can't open further to cool more. I am on the NC coast where
winters are mild. I once tried a 160 (non-sleeved) because I had one
that someone gave me. My BJ8 ran so cold that winter that I actually
had to block part of the radiator to raise it to anywhere near normal.
Up there in the NC mountains, that would be even more of a problem for
you.<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Comic Sans MS"; COLOR: #002060'>I use
a 187 F (86 C) New Old Stock AC sleeved thermostat (AC part number 1572320)
that I was able to score from lister Kees Oudesluijs. I installed it
along with an upgraded core in the radiator at the same time, so I can't
really say how much improvement the thermostat alone did; but since the
modification my car runs consistently at 170 - 180 in the hot summers of the
NC coast, except when in stop-and-go traffic when it might make it to 190 or
a bit above. In winter, it runs at 160 - 170. I can see the
sleeve operate as the car warms up because the gauge will cycle between 160
and 190 until coolant temperature stabilizes. That can take up to 50
miles.<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Comic Sans MS"; COLOR: #002060'>A
friend placed an order later with Kees for several of the 190 F sleeved
thermostats. I got one of those as a spare. Don't know if he has
any left, or can get more. As far as I know, the only sleeved
thermostats available from the usual suspects are 160s and I wouldn't waste
my money on them.<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Comic Sans MS"; COLOR: #002060'>I just
Googled the AC part number and came up with this
source:<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Comic Sans MS"; COLOR: #002060'><A
href="https://tinyurl.com/y9c6n53h" rel=noreferrer
target=_blank>https://tinyurl.com/y9c6n53h</A><U></U><U></U></SPAN></B></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Comic Sans MS"; COLOR: #002060'>Unfortunately,
it does not post to the USA (but on the bright side, it offers free
shipping!). Maybe you could work out a deal with a UK lister to buy
one for you and ship it to you. £19.99 = $26.04
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
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Byers</SPAN><SPAN
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
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Registry</SPAN><SPAN
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
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Delegate at Large</SPAN><SPAN
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
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NC </SPAN><SPAN
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