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<DIV>Yes we have a wax capsule type thermostat that incorporates the sleeve,
They only come in one temperature 165 degree.</DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Century'; COLOR: #000000">David
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=fsufan1952@yahoo.com
href="mailto:fsufan1952@yahoo.com">Don Day</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, September 12, 2018 8:26 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=healeydoc@sbcglobal.net
href="mailto:healeydoc@sbcglobal.net">David Nock BCS</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Healeys] Thermostats</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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style='FONT-SIZE: small; TEXT-DECORATION: none; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri"; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-STYLE: normal; DISPLAY: inline'>So
do you sell a sleeved thermostat for my 67 BJ-8
<DIV> Don <BR><BR>
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<DIV><BR>On Sep 12, 2018, at 11:49 AM, David Nock BCS <<A
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<DIV>Remember the job of the thermostat is not to COOL the engine. It is there
to get the engine up to operating temperature as soon as possible. The
radiator, fan, air ducts are there to maintain the engine temperature.</DIV>
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<DIV>The sleeved thermostat is there to block a bypass in the cylinder head
that is there to allow coolant to circulate when the thermostat is closed. If
you use a non sleeved thermostat you will have part of the coolant NOT going
thru the radiator thus causing the engine temp to run high.</DIV>
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<DIV>Next how many lights and badges do you have on the front of your car.
They will deflect some of the air going into the radiator.</DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=roggrace@telus.net
href="mailto:roggrace@telus.net">Roger Grace</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, September 11, 2018 3:44 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=sbyers@ec.rr.com
href="mailto:sbyers@ec.rr.com">BJ8Healeys</A> ; <A
title=Healeys@autox.team.net
href="mailto:Healeys@autox.team.net">'healeys'</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Healeys] Thermostats</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV>Steve,</DIV>
<DIV>Yes agree with your take on the 160 F thermostats. The only possible
benefit is that if you start with a lower coolant temp, when you hit traffic,
it will take longer before the dreaded over temp zone is approached.</DIV>
<DIV>As an aside, I have installed an oil temp gauge; very useful and a
reminder just how long the engine (not coolant) takes to get up to temp.
Trying to get in the habit of not going over 2000 RPM till OT is about 120F –
often another 15-20 mins after the thermostat opens. </DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A
title=sbyers@ec.rr.com>BJ8Healeys</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Monday, September 10, 2018 12:44 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=Healeys@autox.team.net>'healeys'</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Healeys] Thermostats</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Comic Sans MS"; COLOR: #002060'>Fred, I
personally believe a 160-deg. F thermostat used in an effort to "cool down" a
Healey is useless. A thermostat responds only to the temperature of the
coolant flowing through it by opening up to increase coolant flow, and once it
is open all the way at 160+, it is out of the loop and can't open further to
cool more. I am on the NC coast where winters are mild. I once
tried a 160 (non-sleeved) because I had one that someone gave me. My BJ8
ran so cold that winter that I actually had to block part of the radiator to
raise it to anywhere near normal. Up there in the NC mountains, that
would be even more of a problem for you.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Comic Sans MS"; COLOR: #002060'>I use a
187 F (86 C) New Old Stock AC sleeved thermostat (AC part number 1572320) that
I was able to score from lister Kees Oudesluijs. I installed it along
with an upgraded core in the radiator at the same time, so I can't really say
how much improvement the thermostat alone did; but since the modification my
car runs consistently at 170 - 180 in the hot summers of the NC coast, except
when in stop-and-go traffic when it might make it to 190 or a bit above.
In winter, it runs at 160 - 170. I can see the sleeve operate as the car
warms up because the gauge will cycle between 160 and 190 until coolant
temperature stabilizes. That can take up to 50
miles.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Comic Sans MS"; COLOR: #002060'>A friend
placed an order later with Kees for several of the 190 F sleeved
thermostats. I got one of those as a spare. Don't know if he has
any left, or can get more. As far as I know, the only sleeved
thermostats available from the usual suspects are 160s and I wouldn't waste my
money on them.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Comic Sans MS"; COLOR: #002060'>I just
Googled the AC part number and came up with this source:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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href="https://tinyurl.com/y9c6n53h">https://tinyurl.com/y9c6n53h</A><o:p></o:p></SPAN></B></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Comic Sans MS"; COLOR: #002060'>Unfortunately,
it does not post to the USA (but on the bright side, it offers free
shipping!). Maybe you could work out a deal with a UK lister to buy one
for you and ship it to you. £19.99 = $26.04 </SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Comic Sans MS"; COLOR: #002060'><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Comic Sans MS"; COLOR: #002060'>Steve
Byers</SPAN><SPAN
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Comic Sans MS"; COLOR: #002060'>HBJ8L/36666</SPAN><SPAN
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Comic Sans MS"; COLOR: #002060'>BJ8
Registry</SPAN><SPAN
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Delegate at Large</SPAN><SPAN
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Comic Sans MS"; COLOR: #002060'>Havelock,
NC </SPAN><SPAN
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style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Healeys [<A
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<B>On Behalf Of </B>Fred Wescoe<BR><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, September 09, 2018
8:38 PM<BR><B>To:</B> healeys<BR><B>Subject:</B> [Healeys]
Thermostats<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>Listers,<o:p></o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><o:p></o:p> </P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>I have researched what I can of the archives and other
sources and am still puzzled. I cannot find any real answers and
direction on the question of which thermostat I should use in my 66 BJ8.
Some answers indicate a sleeved thermostat and others say no sleeve.
Some say a short sleeve and others say only the long sleeve works. Some
answers indicate using a 160 degree thermostat while others propose 180
degrees and even 190 degrees. Some even say the Moss sleeved thermostat
does not work.<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><o:p></o:p> </P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>I am in North Carolina and drive the car most of the
year. Right now the car has a non sleeved 190 degree thermostat.
The car starts and needs to warm up, at idle, to almost full temp before it
runs with no problems. Otherwise it spits, coughs and has no
power. The car runs at about 190 degres except when I drive the
mountains and of course stop and go traffic.<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><o:p></o:p> </P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal>What is the consensus of thoughts as we approach colder
weather? And what are the sources and manufacturer for a good
thermostat?<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><o:p></o:p> </P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>Thanks for the help,<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><o:p></o:p> </P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>Fred<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>66BJ8<o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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