<html><head></head><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:16px"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1527791034085_34873"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1527791034085_34966">Ethanol causes havoc with my Harley Davidson carb and fuel system. If I don't ride the bike regularly at least once a week the fuel system gets plugged with a sticky residue. If I am lucky I can get the bike started and I have to run the freeway at 65 MPH for a half hour or so to clean out the crap with a fresh fuel flow. I hav also had to replace the rubber diaphragm in the CV carb because the ethanol ate a hole in it. Not a fan of ethanol.</span></div><div dir="ltr"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1527791034085_34966">Mike MacLean</span></div> <div class="qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div class="yahoo_quoted" style="display: block;"> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div dir="ltr"><font size="2" face="Arial"> On Thursday, May 31, 2018 9:36 AM, Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net> wrote:<br></font></div> <br><br> <div class="y_msg_container"><div dir="ltr">That's been my experience. We've logged many thousands of miles and <br></div><div dir="ltr">calculated the MPG we get on every tank; the difference between 10% <br></div><div dir="ltr">gasahol and pure gas is negligible (although it's impossible to get <br></div><div dir="ltr">exact comparisons because road conditions, altitude, etc. change over <br></div><div dir="ltr">the course of a tank). Also, FWIW, in 140K miles I've never had a <br></div><div dir="ltr">problem that could be attributed to ethanol; I just replaced the <br></div><div dir="ltr">Petroflex hard line to carburettor flex line because it was a little <br></div><div dir="ltr">stiff but was in otherwise good nick at over 100K miles. The coating in <br></div><div dir="ltr">the tank has held up as well.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">But I still don't like subsidizing ADM.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Bob<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">On 5/30/2018 8:39 AM, Kees Oudesluijs wrote:<br></div><div dir="ltr">> The better mileage on pure petrol is only theoretical. In practice you <br></div><div dir="ltr">> will not notice at all. Ethanol has a lower energy content so you <br></div><div dir="ltr">> would require more ethanol than petrol for a given amount of energy. <br></div><div dir="ltr">> However there is only 5% maximum in petrol unless stated otherwise in <br></div><div dir="ltr">> Europe and a small bit of 5% is negligible and well within the <br></div><div dir="ltr">> tolerance of the accuracy of the measurement. I very much doubt if one <br></div><div dir="ltr">> can register an increase of 1% in mileage. There are so many other <br></div><div dir="ltr">> factors influencing mileage.<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> Kees Oudesluijs<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> Op 30-5-2018 om 12:55 schreef <a ymailto="mailto:simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com" href="mailto:simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com">simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com</a>:<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> The Ethanol rules are different here in the UK. Probably dreamed up <br></div><div dir="ltr">>> by some booby in Brussels, passed into law and we're the only country <br></div><div dir="ltr">>> enforcing it.<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> As to the practicalities.......I'm not sure about my current setup <br></div><div dir="ltr">>> (Webers) but previously (3 HD6s), I was pretty sure that I got more <br></div><div dir="ltr">>> mileage for my money on high(er) octane. More bangs for my <br></div><div dir="ltr">>> buck/better value for money..whatever.<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> Simon<br></div><div dir="ltr">>><br></div><div dir="ltr">>> -----Original Message-----<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> From: Healeys [mailto:<a ymailto="mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net" href="mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>] On Behalf Of <br></div><div dir="ltr">>> Bob Haskell<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> Sent: 30 May 2018 11:00<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> To: John Rowe <<a ymailto="mailto:john@jtkarowe.com.au" href="mailto:john@jtkarowe.com.au">john@jtkarowe.com.au</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">>> Cc: 'Healey List' <<a ymailto="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net" href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">>> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Effects of Ethanol<br></div><div dir="ltr">>><br></div><div dir="ltr">>> One can still buy non-ethanol fuel at the pump here in the States; <br></div><div dir="ltr">>> Countrymark is one company that sells premium with zero ethanol. One <br></div><div dir="ltr">>> can't always tell if there's ethanol in the gasoline by looking at <br></div><div dir="ltr">>> the pump. Apparently, it's up to the individual state to decide if a <br></div><div dir="ltr">>> label on the pump is required. I don't think that it's required in <br></div><div dir="ltr">>> Indiana.<br></div><div dir="ltr">>><br></div><div dir="ltr">>> A couple of reasons for ethanol: reduces amount of oil used/imported <br></div><div dir="ltr">>> and another market for corn. Not sure I agree with using a <br></div><div dir="ltr">>> foodstuff, but that's what's been done.<br></div><div dir="ltr">>><br></div><div dir="ltr">>> The other issue I've wondered about, but haven't looked into, is the <br></div><div dir="ltr">>> price differential between grades of gasoline. For years the mid <br></div><div dir="ltr">>> grade was 10 cents a gallon more than regular and premium was another <br></div><div dir="ltr">>> 10 cents. In the last couple of years it's changed to 25 to 30 cents <br></div><div dir="ltr">>> between grades.<br></div><div dir="ltr">>><br></div><div dir="ltr">>> Cheers,<br></div><div dir="ltr">>><br></div><div dir="ltr">>> Bob Haskell<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> AHCA 3000 MkI registrar<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> <a href="http://www.ciahc.org/registry_3000mk1.php" target="_blank">http://www.ciahc.org/registry_3000mk1.php</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">>><br></div><div dir="ltr">>> On 05/29/2018 10:04 PM, John Rowe wrote:<br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> OK, thanks Mike. We have it in Oz, and the greenies here are trying to<br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> make it mandatory I believe. We can buy 91/95/98 unleaded at the pump.<br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> For 98 we pay about $1.70/litre.<br></div><div dir="ltr">>>><br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> At 2c/litre discount for E10 from 91 octane (which won’t run Healeys),<br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> why would you bother buying it due to the decreased mpg.<br></div><div dir="ltr">>>><br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> John Rowe Qld Australia<br></div><div dir="ltr">>>><br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> *From:*Michael MacLean [mailto:<a ymailto="mailto:rrengineer.mike@att.net" href="mailto:rrengineer.mike@att.net">rrengineer.mike@att.net</a>]<br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, 30 May 2018 10:26 AM<br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> *To:* <a ymailto="mailto:john@jtkarowe.com.au" href="mailto:john@jtkarowe.com.au">john@jtkarowe.com.au</a>; <a ymailto="mailto:tld6008@mchsi.com" href="mailto:tld6008@mchsi.com">tld6008@mchsi.com</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> *Cc:* 'Healey List'<br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> *Subject:* RE: [Healeys] Effects of Ethanol<br></div><div dir="ltr">>>><br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> Fuel at the pump is 10% ethanol by law. Right now gasoline is going<br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> for an average of $3.75 to $4 US per gallon. If you want fuel without<br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> ethanol you can buy high octane racing gas, but it's $10 per gallon<br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> and it is supposed to be illegal in street vehicles.<br></div><div dir="ltr">>>><br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> Mike M<br></div><div dir="ltr">>>><br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android<br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> <<a href="https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrow" target="_blank">https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrow</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> th_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Glo<br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> bal_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature><br></div><div dir="ltr">>>><br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 4:43 PM, John Rowe<br></div><div dir="ltr">>>><br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> <<a ymailto="mailto:john@jtkarowe.com.au" href="mailto:john@jtkarowe.com.au">john@jtkarowe.com.au</a>> wrote:<br></div><div dir="ltr">>>><br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> As an Australian, I ask ‘why do you use ethanol in these <br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> vehicles?’,<br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> or don’t you have a say as to what you use in your countries.<br></div><div dir="ltr">>>><br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> John Rowe<br></div><div dir="ltr">>>><br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> Qld Australia<br></div><div dir="ltr">>>><br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> *From:*Healeys [mailto:<a ymailto="mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net" href="mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>] *On <br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> Behalf Of<br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> *Michael MacLean<br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, 30 May 2018 5:55 AM<br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> *To:* <a ymailto="mailto:tld6008@mchsi.com" href="mailto:tld6008@mchsi.com">tld6008@mchsi.com</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> *Cc:* Healey List<br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Effects of Ethanol<br></div><div dir="ltr">>>><br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> Don't do it. It will fill with gas in about two years and you <br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> will<br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> be doing this again. All you have to do is buy a brass float and<br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> swap it out for the plastic one and sleep well at night. It just<br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> snaps right in. The brass float is a Ford part no. COAZ-9202-B. <br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> You<br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> can find them on eBay, Amazon, Summit Racing and even the Ford<br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> dealer. Ethanol does not eat brass.<br></div><div dir="ltr">>>><br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> Mike M.<br></div><div dir="ltr">>>><br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android<br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> <<a href="https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrow" target="_blank">https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrow</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> th_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Glo<br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> bal_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature><br></div><div dir="ltr">>>><br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 12:46 PM, Tim Davis BN7<br></div><div dir="ltr">>>><br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> <<a ymailto="mailto:tld6008@mchsi.com" href="mailto:tld6008@mchsi.com">tld6008@mchsi.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><div dir="ltr">>>><br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> I had the powdery residue all over mine. I just bought a <br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> new one<br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> from Moss it has a plastic float. Hopefully it will hold up.<br></div><div dir="ltr">>>><br></div><div dir="ltr">>>><br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> Tim Davis BN7<br></div><div dir="ltr">>>><br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> ----- Original Message -----<br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> From: Michael MacLean <<a ymailto="mailto:rrengineer.mike@att.net" href="mailto:rrengineer.mike@att.net">rrengineer.mike@att.net</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> To: Healey List <<a ymailto="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net" href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> Sent: Tue, 29 May 2018 11:29:39 -0400 (EDT)<br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> Subject: [Healeys] Effects of Ethanol<br></div><div dir="ltr">>>><br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> This past weekend I removed the tank to extract the sending <br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> unit<br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> on my Bugeye because of a constant reading of empty on the<br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> gauge. As suspected, the plastic float was filled with<br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> gasoline. Ethanol! While replacing the plastic float for <br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> brass<br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> and the cork gaskets for Viton type gaskets, I also swapped <br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> out<br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> the sending unit top cover cork gasket with a Viton type using<br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> Hylomar AF to seal things up. The big surprise came when I<br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> found the rheostat cavity full of gasoline. Must have entered<br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> through the hole in the sending unit body for the float lever.<br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> Anyone have experience with this? Should I be concerned? I<br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> remember the original sending unit I removed form the Bugeye<br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> tank was full of a white powdery residue around the rheostat<br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> like it had also been filled with gasoline. Anyone have<br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> experience with this?<br></div><div dir="ltr">>>><br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> Mike MacLean<br></div><div dir="ltr">>>><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">_______________________________________________<br></div><div dir="ltr">Support Team.Net <a href="http://www.team.net/donate.html" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">Suggested annual donation $12.75<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Archive: <a href="http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys</a><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><a ymailto="mailto:Healeys@autox.team.net" href="mailto:Healeys@autox.team.net">Healeys@autox.team.net</a><br></div><div dir="ltr"><a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys</a><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Unsubscribe/Manage: <a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rrengineer.mike@att.net" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rrengineer.mike@att.net</a><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><br><br></div> </div> </div> </div></div><div id="DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2"><br>
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