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<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 3:03 PM, WILLIAM B LAWRENCE <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ynotink@msn.com" target="_blank">ynotink@msn.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0">Whatever happened to "Alcohol and gasoline don't mix." </p>
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<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0">I prefer my ethanol chilled in 16 ounce containers...</p>
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<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0">Bill Lawrence</p>
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<div id="m_151609039218873490divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" style="font-size:11pt" color="#000000"><b>From:</b> Healeys <<a href="mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net" target="_blank">healeys-bounces@autox.team.<wbr>net</a>> on behalf of Bob Spidell <<a href="mailto:bspidell@comcast.net" target="_blank">bspidell@comcast.net</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 31, 2018 2:23:39 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net" target="_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a><div><div class="h5"><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Effects of Ethanol</div></div></font>
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<div class="m_151609039218873490PlainText"><div><div class="h5">That's been my experience. We've logged many thousands of miles and
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calculated the MPG we get on every tank; the difference between 10% <br>
gasahol and pure gas is negligible (although it's impossible to get <br>
exact comparisons because road conditions, altitude, etc. change over <br>
the course of a tank). Also, FWIW, in 140K miles I've never had a <br>
problem that could be attributed to ethanol; I just replaced the <br>
Petroflex hard line to carburettor flex line because it was a little <br>
stiff but was in otherwise good nick at over 100K miles. The coating in <br>
the tank has held up as well.<br>
<br>
But I still don't like subsidizing ADM.<br>
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Bob<br>
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On 5/30/2018 8:39 AM, Kees Oudesluijs wrote:<br>
> The better mileage on pure petrol is only theoretical. In practice you <br>
> will not notice at all. Ethanol has a lower energy content so you <br>
> would require more ethanol than petrol for a given amount of energy. <br>
> However there is only 5% maximum in petrol unless stated otherwise in <br>
> Europe and a small bit of 5% is negligible and well within the <br>
> tolerance of the accuracy of the measurement. I very much doubt if one <br>
> can register an increase of 1% in mileage. There are so many other <br>
> factors influencing mileage.<br>
><br>
> Kees Oudesluijs<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Op 30-5-2018 om 12:55 schreef <a href="mailto:simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com" target="_blank">simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.<wbr>com</a>:<br>
>> The Ethanol rules are different here in the UK. Probably dreamed up <br>
>> by some booby in Brussels, passed into law and we're the only country <br>
>> enforcing it.<br>
>> As to the practicalities.......I'm not sure about my current setup <br>
>> (Webers) but previously (3 HD6s), I was pretty sure that I got more <br>
>> mileage for my money on high(er) octane. More bangs for my <br>
>> buck/better value for money..whatever.<br>
>> Simon<br>
>><br>
>> -----Original Message-----<br>
>> From: Healeys [<a href="mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net" target="_blank">mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.<wbr>team.net</a>] On Behalf Of
<br>
>> Bob Haskell<br>
>> Sent: 30 May 2018 11:00<br>
>> To: John Rowe <<a href="mailto:john@jtkarowe.com.au" target="_blank">john@jtkarowe.com.au</a>><br>
>> Cc: 'Healey List' <<a href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net" target="_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>><br>
>> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Effects of Ethanol<br>
>><br>
>> One can still buy non-ethanol fuel at the pump here in the States; <br>
>> Countrymark is one company that sells premium with zero ethanol. One <br>
>> can't always tell if there's ethanol in the gasoline by looking at <br>
>> the pump. Apparently, it's up to the individual state to decide if a <br>
>> label on the pump is required. I don't think that it's required in <br>
>> Indiana.<br>
>><br>
>> A couple of reasons for ethanol: reduces amount of oil used/imported <br>
>> and another market for corn. Not sure I agree with using a <br>
>> foodstuff, but that's what's been done.<br>
>><br>
>> The other issue I've wondered about, but haven't looked into, is the <br>
>> price differential between grades of gasoline. For years the mid <br>
>> grade was 10 cents a gallon more than regular and premium was another <br>
>> 10 cents. In the last couple of years it's changed to 25 to 30 cents <br>
>> between grades.<br>
>><br>
>> Cheers,<br>
>><br>
>> Bob Haskell<br>
>> AHCA 3000 MkI registrar<br>
>> <a href="http://www.ciahc.org/registry_3000mk1.php" target="_blank">http://www.ciahc.org/registry_<wbr>3000mk1.php</a><br>
>><br>
>> On 05/29/2018 10:04 PM, John Rowe wrote:<br>
>>> OK, thanks Mike. We have it in Oz, and the greenies here are trying to<br>
>>> make it mandatory I believe. We can buy 91/95/98 unleaded at the pump.<br>
>>> For 98 we pay about $1.70/litre.<br>
>>><br>
>>> At 2c/litre discount for E10 from 91 octane (which won’t run Healeys),<br>
>>> why would you bother buying it due to the decreased mpg.<br>
>>><br>
>>> John Rowe Qld Australia<br>
>>><br>
>>> *From:*Michael MacLean [<a href="mailto:rrengineer.mike@att.net" target="_blank">mailto:rrengineer.mike@att.<wbr>net</a>]<br>
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, 30 May 2018 10:26 AM<br>
>>> *To:* <a href="mailto:john@jtkarowe.com.au" target="_blank">john@jtkarowe.com.au</a>; <a href="mailto:tld6008@mchsi.com" target="_blank">tld6008@mchsi.com</a><br>
>>> *Cc:* 'Healey List'<br>
>>> *Subject:* RE: [Healeys] Effects of Ethanol<br>
>>><br>
>>> Fuel at the pump is 10% ethanol by law. Right now gasoline is going<br>
>>> for an average of $3.75 to $4 US per gallon. If you want fuel without<br>
>>> ethanol you can buy high octane racing gas, but it's $10 per gallon<br>
>>> and it is supposed to be illegal in street vehicles.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Mike M<br>
>>><br>
>>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android<br>
>>> <<a></a><a href="https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrow" target="_blank">https://go.onelink.me/<wbr>107872968?pid=InProduct&c=<wbr>Global_Internal_YGrow</a><br>
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>>><br>
>>> On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 4:43 PM, John Rowe<br>
>>><br>
>>> <<a href="mailto:john@jtkarowe.com.au" target="_blank">john@jtkarowe.com.au</a>> wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>> As an Australian, I ask ‘why do you use ethanol in these <br>
>>> vehicles?’,<br>
>>> or don’t you have a say as to what you use in your countries.<br>
>>><br>
>>> John Rowe<br>
>>><br>
>>> Qld Australia<br>
>>><br>
>>> *From:*Healeys [<a href="mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net" target="_blank">mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.<wbr>team.net</a>] *On
<br>
>>> Behalf Of<br>
>>> *Michael MacLean<br>
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, 30 May 2018 5:55 AM<br>
>>> *To:* <a href="mailto:tld6008@mchsi.com" target="_blank">tld6008@mchsi.com</a><br>
>>> *Cc:* Healey List<br>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Effects of Ethanol<br>
>>><br>
>>> Don't do it. It will fill with gas in about two years and you <br>
>>> will<br>
>>> be doing this again. All you have to do is buy a brass float and<br>
>>> swap it out for the plastic one and sleep well at night. It just<br>
>>> snaps right in. The brass float is a Ford part no. COAZ-9202-B. <br>
>>> You<br>
>>> can find them on eBay, Amazon, Summit Racing and even the Ford<br>
>>> dealer. Ethanol does not eat brass.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Mike M.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android<br>
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>>><br>
>>> On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 12:46 PM, Tim Davis BN7<br>
>>><br>
>>> <<a href="mailto:tld6008@mchsi.com" target="_blank">tld6008@mchsi.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>> I had the powdery residue all over mine. I just bought a <br>
>>> new one<br>
>>> from Moss it has a plastic float. Hopefully it will hold up.<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> Tim Davis BN7<br>
>>><br>
>>> ----- Original Message -----<br>
>>> From: Michael MacLean <<a href="mailto:rrengineer.mike@att.net" target="_blank">rrengineer.mike@att.net</a>><br>
>>> To: Healey List <<a href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net" target="_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>><br>
>>> Sent: Tue, 29 May 2018 11:29:39 -0400 (EDT)<br>
>>> Subject: [Healeys] Effects of Ethanol<br>
>>><br>
>>> This past weekend I removed the tank to extract the sending <br>
>>> unit<br>
>>> on my Bugeye because of a constant reading of empty on the<br>
>>> gauge. As suspected, the plastic float was filled with<br>
>>> gasoline. Ethanol! While replacing the plastic float for <br>
>>> brass<br>
>>> and the cork gaskets for Viton type gaskets, I also swapped <br>
>>> out<br>
>>> the sending unit top cover cork gasket with a Viton type using<br>
>>> Hylomar AF to seal things up. The big surprise came when I<br>
>>> found the rheostat cavity full of gasoline. Must have entered<br>
>>> through the hole in the sending unit body for the float lever.<br>
>>> Anyone have experience with this? Should I be concerned? I<br>
>>> remember the original sending unit I removed form the Bugeye<br>
>>> tank was full of a white powdery residue around the rheostat<br>
>>> like it had also been filled with gasoline. Anyone have<br>
>>> experience with this?<br>
>>><br>
>>> Mike MacLean<br>
>>><br>
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