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size=2 face=Arial>There is a lot of good discussion on this topic and although
my Healey drums and wires wheels are in my basement and not on my car I can
offer some suggestions that may help. For a rotating mass two types of
balancing is required, static and dynamic. If the rotating mass was a thin disk
it would be essentially a two dimensional object and you could add or
subtract weight to the perimeter until the disk didn't move no matter how
it was rotated. It would be statically balanced. Unfortunately the
rotating tires, wheels, hubs, brakes and knock offs on our Healey's is a three
dimensional system made up of various components each of which can be out
of round and out of balance. All three dimensional systems must be
balanced statically and dynamically to remove vibrations. Suggestion number one
is if the shop doing the balancing doesn't know the difference find another
shop. The perfect balancing machine would accept all of the rotating parts as
one complete assembly and rotate about the same centre as the axle.
Unfortunately, a machine like this is not usually available to Healey
owners. The next option is to balance the parts separately. Check the wheel
mounting surfaces on the hubs for run out on the car using a dial gauge and
if they run true likely they are fine. The brake drums are castings and could be
out of balance from the casting process or subsequent machining. The drums can
be balanced by either removing weight or adding weight the same way tires are
balanced. I prefer the adding weight method as it allows for some trail and
error and the weight can be added close to where it is needed. Ideally the drums
and hubs would be balanced as one unit. Balancing tires and wheels is a
similar process. Step one is to check the wheels are straight and round if they
are not balancing may not be possible. Literature I have suggests "wobble"
should be less than 0.055". See attached. Assuming the balancing
machine has the capability to do both a static and dynamic balance the tire
and wheel must be rotated about the same centre as if it were on the
car. With centre lock wire wheels an adapter is needed for most balancing
machines. See the attached PDF for a description. Another point to review with
the balancing shop. If they cannot mount the wheel on the balancing machine the
same way it is mounted on the car find another shop. There is a link below to
the Wikipedia page on balancing rotating masses and YouTube video of a brake
drum and hub being balanced together.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial><A
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<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
class=877155216-18022018>Probably way too much information but it may save some
from wasting money on the wrong method or irreversibly grinding away brake drums
with a shop that doesn't fully understand the balancing
process.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial><SPAN class=877155216-18022018>Good
luck to all .... Harold</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<FONT size=2 face=Tahoma><B>From:</B> Healeys
[mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Mirek
Sharp<BR><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, February 17, 2018 7:21 PM<BR><B>To:</B> 'Charlie
Baldwin'; healeys@autox.team.net<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Healeys] Drum
Balancing<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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someone clarify a few of the comments on drum balancing. A couple of
people said they had them done by various specialists on a lathe by skimming the
fins. This will make the outside of the drum round, which I imagine must
help, but that is different from balancing, which I understand may involve
subtracting and/or adding weight in strategic places, as one would in balancing
a tyre. I don’t think balancing can be achieved simply by truing the
outside of the drum, but I am glad to be corrected. So by drum balancing,
are these wonderful accolades a result of drum truing or drum balancing?
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Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Charlie
Baldwin<BR><B>Sent:</B> February-17-18 6:25 AM<BR><B>To:</B>
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<P>One major thing to keep in mind when having someone balance your wheels or
shave your tires is how they are mounted on their machine. Wire wheels
must be mounted on the machined surfaces not just with internal cones as a
company that does not normally balance wire wheels would do. It won't do
any good to shave the tires from the wrong center.<o:p></o:p></P>
<P>So a specialist who understands British wire wheels is essential to having
the job done properly. Besides Hendrix there is K & T Vintage Sports
Cars in Bethlehem, PA owned by Ken Beck, an Austin-Healey owner. Check
their website at <A
href="http://www.ktvintagecars.com/">http://www.ktvintagecars.com/</A> for a
video of the tire shaving process. I have some new tires for my MG wire
wheels that I will have them mount and balance, and shave if required. I
know Ken, but never had any work done by him. Others have great things to
say about the process and their work in general.<o:p></o:p></P>
<P>I had my drums balanced several years ago by the local NAPA machine shop who
do my engine rebuild machining.<o:p></o:p></P>
<P>Charlie Baldwin<o:p></o:p></P>
<P>'62 BT7<o:p></o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal>On 2/16/2018 9:16 PM, HealeyRick wrote:<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>Another satisfied customer of Hendrix Wire Wheels.
Mounted and balanced my Dayton wheels, shaved the Michelin's and balanced the
rear drums. Had it up to 104 mph on our speed run last summer (It's got
a V8 but the rest of the suspension is stock Healey) and was smooth all the
way up. Drives at 2,000 rpm at 70 mph with its five speed and it's
just a joy. Time for new tires this year and they are going back to Hendrix
for the treatment. Probably the most satisfying money you can spend on a
Healey. <o:p></o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal>On Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 3:36 PM, jim brown <<A
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style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Helvetica Neue"'>Ditto on both of my Bt7
and Bj8. Remarkable difference after Hendrix Wire Wheel in Greensboro NC got a
hold of them. I think he can shave tires also. Great to work with
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<P style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"'>Allen Hendrix of HendrixWireWheel
(in North Carolina) did my BJ8. Rear Drums and (I think) the drive
shaft. I don't know exactly how it is done. I always just hand the
keys to Allen!<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"'>Smoothest BJ8 I've ever driven,
including 2 purchased new back in the '60's. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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target=_blank>healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</A>> on behalf of Michael
MacLean <<A href="mailto:rrengineer.mike@att.net"
target=_blank>rrengineer.mike@att.net</A>><BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, February
16, 2018 6:55 AM<BR><B>To:</B> <A href="mailto:llennep@verizon.net"
target=_blank>llennep@verizon.net</A>; <A href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"
target=_blank>healeys@autox.team.net</A><BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Healeys] Drum
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style='FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"'>Where did
you get them balanced and how was it done? <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial","sans-serif"'>Absolutely!
Eliminated 50-70% of scuttle shake in daily driving. One of the
best things I ever did to my cars. Have balanced several
sets.<BR><BR></SPAN><SPAN
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Message-----<BR>From: Michael MacLean <<A
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target=_blank>rrengineer.mike@att.net</A>><BR>To: Healey List <<A
href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"
target=_blank>healeys@autox.team.net</A>><BR>Sent: Fri, Feb 16, 2018 1:22
am<BR>Subject: [Healeys] Drum Balancing<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial","sans-serif"'>I can understand
balancing the front drums on my BN2 to help preclude scuttle shake, but I am
converting to front disc brakes. Is it necessary to balance the rear
drums? <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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