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<p>I got: DWR1 cam with std. lifters, DWR HC oil pump and blew a wad
on DWR pistons (85mm IIRC--0.045" over--but not sure). I sourced
a vernier timing set from Australia--thanks Chris!--and the cam
did require some adjustment to meet specs. I'm very happy with
the engine's performance; this car is mostly a highway cruiser, so
low-end torque and good mid-range is my preference.<br>
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Bob<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/12/2017 4:05 AM, David Masucci
wrote:<br>
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<div class="">Hi all,</div>
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<div class="">A few weeks back I mentioned to the list that I’m
considering using a Welch DWR8 cam. Based on responses and more
research I think I will go with the DWR1 with the bucket
followers and longer pushrods. I also plan to use the high
capacity pump on my mostly stock engine. </div>
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<div class="">I was considering using the roller rockers, but am
not sure if that’s going to make any significant improvement. I
know it will buy a couple of ponies due to less friction, but is
there any other significant advantage on a basically stock
engine. Would I be wasting my money on something fancy that
really has modest benefit? The DWR1 cam provides 0.252” cam
lift. According to Welch, the valve lift with standard rockers
would be 0.358”, and would not need pockets machined into the
block. Based on the 1.65:1 ratio of the roller rockers, the
valve lift will be 0.416”. I believe that will require pockets
in the block.</div>
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<div class="">Does anyone have opinions on this combination? The
roller rocker assembly is over $1200 not including getting into
the US from the UK. Is there a better place in the engine to
spend those dollars? </div>
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<div class="">Thanks all!!</div>
<div class="">Dave</div>
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<div class="">On Apr 16, 2017, at 1:13 AM, Bruce Steele <<a
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href="mailto:healeybruce@roadrunner.com" class="">healeybruce@roadrunner.com</a>>
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font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span
style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS', sans-serif; color:
windowtext;" class="">Bob, your post is of interest.
I just sent my engine to the painter today with DWR
85mm pistons; DWR1 cam, hollow tappets and matching
pushrods; and DWR lightened flywheel with 9.5”
clutch. Already had the DWR high capacity oil pump.
Plus new DWR reverse, 1<sup class="">st</sup><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>and cluster
gears and all new synchros. I’m keeping the stock
intake and exhaust manifolds, and the stock carbs. My
car was originally a non-OD cars (now so equipped), so
it has the 3.54 rear. Really looking forward to
experiencing how it will drive.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span
style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS', sans-serif;
color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Bruce Steele<o:p
class=""></o:p></span></div>
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font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span
style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS', sans-serif;
color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Brea, CA<o:p
class=""></o:p></span></div>
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style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS', sans-serif;
color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">1960 BN7<o:p
class=""></o:p></span></div>
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class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt;
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windowtext;" class="">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif; color: windowtext;" class=""><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Healeys [<a
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href="mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net"
style="color: purple; text-decoration:
underline;" class="">mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>]<span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b
class="">On Behalf Of<span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Bob
Spidell<br class="">
<b class="">Sent:</b><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Saturday,
April 15, 2017 8:38 AM<br class="">
<b class="">To:</b><span
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underline;" class="">healeys@autox.team.net</a><br
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<b class="">Subject:</b><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re:
[Healeys] Selecting a replacement CAM for BJ8<o:p
class=""></o:p></span></div>
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<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
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font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;">Neglected
to mention I have a Lempert 3.54 diff in my car, so the
lower torque curve is helpful.<o:p class=""></o:p></p>
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<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class="">On
4/15/2017 7:17 AM, Bob Spidell wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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<p style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in;
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman',
serif;" class="">Hi Dave,<o:p class=""></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt;
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman',
serif;">I just finished a rebuild on my BJ8; my
engine--with over 100K miles--was in similar condition
to yours with significant cam lobe and lifter wear. I
installed a DWR1 cam; it's more appropriate if you're
really ' looking for stock or mild tune only.' The
DWR1 is 'slightly better than stock', in DWR's word's,
and should be most appropriate for a street/touring
car as the torque curve is lower. I don't think
you'll gain much if anything with the DWR8 unless you
at least use headers and port your head--or buy one of
DWR's alloy heads--and then additional tuning is
required. Steve G.--on this list, I believe--is doing
a build with a DWR8 cam, but he has headers and the
rest of his engine is likely tuned for the higher
torque/power band. The DWR1 doesn't want to go much
over 4,500RPM, but I do mostly long distance touring
so I'm usually running 2,500RPM, give-or-take. I do a
lot of driving '100 miles from nowhere' so I generally
go pretty easy on my drivetrain.<br class="">
<br class="">
DWR recommends their High Capacity oil pump when using
their gun-drilled cam, unless you're going to spend
time over 6,000RPM (in which case you'll probably want
their billet crankshaft, conrods, pistons, etc.).
Since you had cam/lifter damage, be sure to clean all
components--e.g. rocker shaft--thoroughly to remove
any debris. My builder was adamant about that. You
can use either 'standard' lifters with your current
pushrods, or get bucket lifters and their pushrods. I
went with standard. I sourced an adjustable, vernier
timing set from Australia; my builder said the cam did
require some adjustment.<br class="">
<br class="">
DWR Support has a chat facility; they are very
responsive but, of course, there's a significant time
difference. Whichever cam you use, please let us know
your results.<br class="">
<br class="">
Bob<o:p class=""></o:p></p>
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font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class="">On
4/15/2017 4:12 AM,<span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a
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href="mailto:drmasucci@comcast.net" style="color:
purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">drmasucci@comcast.net</a><span
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class=""></o:p></div>
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class=""><span style="font-family: Arial,
sans-serif;" class="">Hi All,<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"
class=""><span style="font-family: Arial,
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<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size:
12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"
class=""><span style="font-family: Arial,
sans-serif;" class="">Well now that spring is
here, I am resuming the rebuild of my BJ8
engine. The engine was rebuilt back in 1999,
but since I'm doing a full resto of the car, I
decided to take a look at the engine. While
all other parameters were well within spec,
the cam and lifters were damaged. Back then I
didn't know much about modern oils and the
lack of zinc, and since that's the only part
of the engine that didn't do well, I am
assuming that must be why.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size:
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class=""><span style="font-family: Arial,
sans-serif;" class="">So I am now trying to
decide what to do. I can have my cam reground,
or buy new. Since I believe it was already
reground and based on the wear, I am thinking
maybe new is the best choice. I am looking for
stock or mild tune only.<span
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class=""></o:p></span></div>
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<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size:
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class=""><span style="font-family: Arial,
sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div>
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<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size:
12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"
class=""><span style="font-family: Arial,
sans-serif;" class="">I am not a pro engine
builder, but I know the basics and am not new
to the process. I know that if I change
something like the cam parameters, I need to
understand how that affects the rest of the
valve train. I looking for guidance on
selecting the right components.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size:
12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"
class=""><span style="font-family: Arial,
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<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size:
12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"
class=""><span style="font-family: Arial,
sans-serif;" class="">I am considering the
Welch DWR8 cam and lifter package. I
understand that I will have to machine pockets
into the block for valve clearance. I will be
having the head rebuilt to basic stock
parameters as far as the valve gear is
concerned. I need to determine how to select
the correct pushrods. Since this cam is
drilled to feed oil to the lobes, do I need to
make other modifications to support that
feature?<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p
class=""></o:p></span></div>
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<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size:
12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"
class=""><span style="font-family: Arial,
sans-serif;" class="">So I'm looking for some
feedback and recommendations from the list.
Has anyone followed a similar path on their 6
cylinder Healey? Any opinions, cautions, or
advice would be appreciated. Is this cam my
best choice? Also if there are better options
to consider I'd like to hear that also.<span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p
class=""></o:p></span></div>
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12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"
class=""><span style="font-family: Arial,
sans-serif;" class="">As usual, thanks in
advance for any help.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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sans-serif;" class="">Dave<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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