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      A very enlightening table!<br>
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      Cheers,<br>
      Kees Oudesluijs<br>
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      Op 2-5-2017 om 12:00 schreef Chris Dimmock:<br>
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      <div id="AppleMailSignature">We are specifically talking about the
        Lucas C42 as used on the BJ8</div>
      <div id="AppleMailSignature">A Lucas C42 generates 30 amps at
        4,500 rpm. </div>
      <div id="AppleMailSignature">It's fine. </div>
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        On 2 May 2017, at 6:48 pm, Oudesluys <<a
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          <div class="moz-cite-prefix">There you are, 26A at full house.
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            How much does the generator generate? 20-25A if you are
            lucky.<br>
            Kees Oudesluijs<br>
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            Op 2-5-2017 om 7:34 schreef Roger Grace:<br>
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                            <div>Given the endless discussions on this
                              topic, thought it would be useful to
                              remind myself and any others who are
                              interested in the major differences
                              between alternators and generators</div>
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                            <div>In a gen. the heat generated is in the
                              rotating armature that is on the inside of
                              the enclosure and this is why cooling is
                              important/difficult and the fan on the
                              pulley provides this through the
                              enclosure. The brushes on a gen work hard
                              and switch full current several times per
                              rev. hence the wear and sparking. Gen
                              usually has an oilite bearing at the rear
                              that also wears. This is a critical
                              component as wear (dry no oil) could
                              eventually lead to scraping of the
                              armature on the field poles and throwing
                              of lead at comm. Take care of your
                              brushes, bronze bush and bearings and you
                              will have a reliable gen.</div>
                            <div> </div>
                            <div>An alt. is inverted with the main
                              winding on the outside (easier to cool
                              hence more output) and the field  on the
                              inside; hence the shape - larger diameter
                              and shorter. No mechanical commutator
                              switching needed as this is done by
                              diodes. Slip ring brushes feed low dc amps
                              to the internal rotating field - that last
                              almost forever. Alt usually have more
                              reliable front and rear rotor bearings and
                              less rotational weight as the main
                              windings are on the stator and thus more
                              mechanically robust than a gen.</div>
                            <div> </div>
                            <div>The discussions here also confuse me
                              about the amps needed for our cars. I am
                              with Chris on this one and wonder why you
                              would need an 80 amp alt ?? !! Unless you
                              run an extra 2 spots for long periods you
                              likely don’t need the hi output of an
                              alternator rather the mechanical
                              reliability and the improvement of
                              eliminating the mechanical regulator.</div>
                            <div>Lets say headlights at 55W each; 5 amps
                              for ignition and auxiliaries; 3 amps for
                              side lights (convert these plus brake
                              lights to LED’s to lighten your load);
                              blower at 3 amps; wiper at 5 amps; OD 1
                              amp as worst case continuous. This gives a
                              total of around 26 amps full house driving
                              at night in the Winter and raining ! 
                              Intermittent loads are horn, brake lights,
                              indicators. etc. </div>
                            <div> </div>
                            <div>No doubt one day will convert to an alt
                              but it would likely be to eliminate the
                              awful cheap non adjustable regulator that
                              I had to purchase after my 50 year old
                              Lucas one failed.</div>
                            <div>rg</div>
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                                  <div><b>From:</b> <a
                                      title="austin.healey@gmail.com"
                                      moz-do-not-send="true">Chris
                                      Dimmock</a> </div>
                                  <div><b>Sent:</b> Monday, May 1, 2017
                                    6:42 AM</div>
                                  <div><b>To:</b> <a
                                      title="simon.lachlan@homecall.co.uk"
                                      moz-do-not-send="true">Simon
                                      Lachlan</a> </div>
                                  <div><b>Cc:</b> <a
                                      title="healeys@autox.team.net"
                                      moz-do-not-send="true">Healey List</a>
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                                  <div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys]
                                    Dynalite or which alternator to C42
                                    Generator</div>
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                              <div>The funniest thing I find about the
                                "alternator inside a generator"
                                conversions is the bloody pulley. It
                                might look like a generator body - but
                                you have to run a tiny pulley, because
                                it needs a bucket load of revs to
                                generate didly squat, more than a
                                generator. </div>
                              <div id="AppleMailSignature">Any good
                                Lucas generator runs a Larger pulley -
                                because it generates enough amps and
                                stuff at low revs. Seriously men. Who
                                revs their car past 5,000 rpm on the
                                road? </div>
                              <div id="AppleMailSignature">I run a C42
                                with a bigger DWR Pulley. </div>
                              <div id="AppleMailSignature">That means
                                I'm slowing down the old Lucas C42.
                                Because it already generates enough
                                power. </div>
                              <div id="AppleMailSignature">Ok. I'm not
                                running a 1,000 watt sound system or 4
                                IPods, and a grille full of spotlights.
                                FFS - it's a Healey!!</div>
                              <div id="AppleMailSignature">So if you run
                                one of these alternator inside a
                                generator silly things, it's a joke.
                                You've got a fake, compromised
                                alternator. Immediately identified by
                                the pulley. An alternator needs air for
                                cooling. A generator casing doesn't
                                provide that. </div>
                              <div id="AppleMailSignature">Run one or
                                the other. Generator or alternator. I've
                                got no issue if you run an alternator.
                                Run a good, sensible, reliable one. </div>
                              <div id="AppleMailSignature">Nearly as
                                stupid as putting a disc brake inside a
                                brake drum. Same issue. </div>
                              <div id="AppleMailSignature">Innovative-
                                but it doesn't work unless all you do is
                                drive to a coffee shop. </div>
                              <div id="AppleMailSignature">Simon. Just
                                get a C42 and return the core when you
                                get back. </div>
                              <div id="AppleMailSignature">Best Chris</div>
                              <div id="AppleMailSignature">Being Grumpy
                                about modern shit. </div>
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                                Sent from my iPhone</div>
                              <div>On 1 May 2017, at 3:54 am, Simon
                                Lachlan <<a moz-do-not-send="true">simon.lachlan@homecall.co.uk</a>>
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                                    <p class="MsoNormal">My nephew’s
                                      generator issues may resolve
                                      themselves soon. May…….</p>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal">We may look at
                                      replacing the C42 in his BJ8 with
                                      an alternator, one of the
                                      generator lookalikes.</p>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal">Dynalite is one
                                      of the names I’ve come across, as
                                      sold by Holden’s. The Usual
                                      Suspects don’t seem to give their
                                      lookalikes their brand names.</p>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal">Anyhow, I know
                                      this topic came up a few months
                                      back, but I wasn’t interested
                                      then! So:-</p>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal">Does anyone
                                      have experience of these things?</p>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal">Is any brand
                                      better than another??</p>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal">Etcetc.</p>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal">Holden’s claim
                                      45amps for theirs. AHSpares claim
                                      50amps. A BJ8’s C42 generator
                                      kicks out 30amps max. It seems
                                      that one does need the BIG fuse in
                                      the Dummy Control Box. When I put
                                      in my alternator, a Lucas ACR, I
                                      put in an extra cable to carry the
                                      extra amps…….apparently if the
                                      alternator is really belting out
                                      the amps, the old wiring is a bit
                                      marginal.</p>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal">Any other
                                      thoughts? </p>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal">Kind advice to
                                      the effect that putting more
                                      modern electrics in our old
                                      bangers is streng verboten is
                                      unnecessary at this time.</p>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal">Thanks,</p>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal">Simon</p>
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