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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Not quite, setting the static timing
was the only means at the time and the instructions should be
accurate. Nowadays it is more convenient to set the timing
dynamically, but without vacuum and at stationary revs, which is
in most cases the same as the static timing. The so called fine
tuning is in practice irrelevant except when the car is tuned on a
rolling road. However you can check if the centrifugal advance
mechanism is working properly by keeping the engine on e.g. 2500
or 3000rpm and check what advance is indicated. Disconnect the
vacuum line for this though. The vacuum advance/retard, if fitted,
is only in operation at low load. <br>
Kees Oudesluijs<br>
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Op 12-2-2017 om 12:51 schreef Simon Lachlan:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span>In this instance, static timing would
precede dynamic timing because the car was so far out of
tune that the engine would not run.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>In my thinking, static is only used
to get the timing onto the right map page, enabling the
engine to be started and then tuned more precisely by other
means.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>Simon</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
lang="EN-US"> Healeys
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net">mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Michael
Oritt<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 11 February 2017 21:33<br>
<b>To:</b> Oudesluys <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:coudesluijs@chello.nl"><coudesluijs@chello.nl></a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Austin Healey <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"><healeys@autox.team.net></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Static Timing a Pertronix
Ignitor</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span>I am probably showing my
ignorance on ignition theory but I have never understood
the concern with static timing versus dynamic (total)
timing when the car is running. Since the amount of
centrifugal advance is not adjustable why am I concerned
with what the initial static timing is? </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span>So long as the distributor is
oriented correctly and I am in the ballpark--usually
verified by the engine's starting--all I do is set total
timing at 3000 rpms's.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span>If I am missing something I would
appreciate learning what that is.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span>Best--Michael Oritt</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Sat, Feb 11, 2017 at 7:02 AM,
Oudesluys <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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<p class="MsoNormal">Set the crankshaft at the desired
static ignition timing. Set the distributor housing
with the rotor in the approximate position of no.1
cylinder on its compression stroke, then slightly
back. Switch on the ignition and turn the
distributor forwards until you hear the faint click
of the spark. Switch of the ignition immediately.
That would be fine for fine tuning the timing
dynamically. <br>
Do not leave on the electronic ignition unnecessary,
it may get damaged if left on for a long time.<br>
Kees Oudesluijs<br>
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Op 11-2-2017 om 8:21 schreef Simon Lachlan:</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">We’re talking about an Ignitor
ie NOT an Ignitor II. In a positive earth BJ8.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">The timing may be all to hell.
I’m in the UK; the car’s in Paris.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Let’s say that the clamp bolts
“may somehow have got loosened” during the
initially successful swap from points to Ignitor
the other day. </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">(Yes, it’s an old Ignitor but
it was NOS, boxed and unused, in the boot when the
car was delivered.)</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Now, I’ve been looking at my
accumulated notes on Static Timing etc with a view
that we may have to go down that track, if it
proves that we have air, fuel and spark but not
necessarily in the right order!</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I’ve accumulated a lot of info
over the years which is primarily a Good Thing,
but sometimes I find conflicting information.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">For example, one source says
that the Ignitor II cannot be static timed.
Another source implies that all EI’s, including
Ignitor IIs, can be timed by putting a multimeter
across the coil’s primary connections.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Another one says:- “To begin
the timing exercise you must statically time the
engine at around <b>10</b> degrees BTDC. With the
engine at <b>10</b> degrees BTDC on the firing
stroke align the distributor so that the points
are just about to open or in the case of an
electronic distributor <b><i><u>so that the
stator and rotor tips are just aligning</u></i></b>.
Lock the distributor enough to stop it moving.
Ensure that the vacuum advance retard is
disconnected and the tube plugged. Start the
engine and let it idle, adjust the timing with the
engine running to <b>10</b> degrees BTDC and lock
the distributor.”</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">(Ignore the 10° advice.) With
reference to an Ignitor…..does this apply? And
what is the “stator”? I can “assume” that it’s the
little curved black box of tricks? Does this or
could this apply to the Pertronix? Seems a bit
inaccurate……one would have assume that the
critical alignment point in the “stator” was
prec.isely in the centre of the inside of the
curve??..... I suppose one could try the voltmeter
across the coil method and see where the rotor was
in relation to the “stator”?? Any </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Has anyone any tips on static
timing an Ignitor? I’ve timed them, but never had
to go back to Stage One ie I’ve used a timing
light and made adjustments to a running engine
rather than go back to basics where the timing is
completely out and the engine won’t fire at all.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Any help would be much
appreciated and doubly so in Paris!</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Simon</p>
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