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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-GB link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>In this instance, static timing would precede dynamic timing because the car was so far out of tune that the engine would not run.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>In my thinking, static is only used to get the timing onto the right map page, enabling the engine to be started and then tuned more precisely by other means.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Simon<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Michael Oritt<br><b>Sent:</b> 11 February 2017 21:33<br><b>To:</b> Oudesluys <coudesluijs@chello.nl><br><b>Cc:</b> Austin Healey <healeys@autox.team.net><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Static Timing a Pertronix Ignitor<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#3333FF'>I am probably showing my ignorance on ignition theory but I have never understood the concern with static timing versus dynamic (total) timing when the car is running. Since the amount of centrifugal advance is not adjustable why am I concerned with what the initial static timing is? <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#3333FF'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#3333FF'>So long as the distributor is oriented correctly and I am in the ballpark--usually verified by the engine's starting--all I do is set total timing at 3000 rpms's.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#3333FF'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#3333FF'>If I am missing something I would appreciate learning what that is.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#3333FF'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#3333FF'>Best--Michael Oritt<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Sat, Feb 11, 2017 at 7:02 AM, Oudesluys <<a href="mailto:coudesluijs@chello.nl" target="_blank">coudesluijs@chello.nl</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Set the crankshaft at the desired static ignition timing. Set the distributor housing with the rotor in the approximate position of no.1 cylinder on its compression stroke, then slightly back. Switch on the ignition and turn the distributor forwards until you hear the faint click of the spark. Switch of the ignition immediately. That would be fine for fine tuning the timing dynamically. <br>Do not leave on the electronic ignition unnecessary, it may get damaged if left on for a long time.<br>Kees Oudesluijs<br><br><br>Op 11-2-2017 om 8:21 schreef Simon Lachlan:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>We’re talking about an Ignitor ie NOT an Ignitor II. In a positive earth BJ8.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>The timing may be all to hell. I’m in the UK; the car’s in Paris.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Let’s say that the clamp bolts “may somehow have got loosened” during the initially successful swap from points to Ignitor the other day. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>(Yes, it’s an old Ignitor but it was NOS, boxed and unused, in the boot when the car was delivered.)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Now, I’ve been looking at my accumulated notes on Static Timing etc with a view that we may have to go down that track, if it proves that we have air, fuel and spark but not necessarily in the right order!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I’ve accumulated a lot of info over the years which is primarily a Good Thing, but sometimes I find conflicting information.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>For example, one source says that the Ignitor II cannot be static timed. Another source implies that all EI’s, including Ignitor IIs, can be timed by putting a multimeter across the coil’s primary connections.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Another one says:- “To begin the timing exercise you must statically time the engine at around <b>10</b> degrees BTDC. With the engine at <b>10</b> degrees BTDC on the firing stroke align the distributor so that the points are just about to open or in the case of an electronic distributor <b><i><u>so that the stator and rotor tips are just aligning</u></i></b>. Lock the distributor enough to stop it moving. Ensure that the vacuum advance retard is disconnected and the tube plugged. Start the engine and let it idle, adjust the timing with the engine running to <b>10</b> degrees BTDC and lock the distributor.”<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>(Ignore the 10° advice.) With reference to an Ignitor…..does this apply? And what is the “stator”? I can “assume” that it’s the little curved black box of tricks? Does this or could this apply to the Pertronix? Seems a bit inaccurate……one would have assume that the critical alignment point in the “stator” was prec.isely in the centre of the inside of the curve??..... I suppose one could try the voltmeter across the coil method and see where the rotor was in relation to the “stator”?? Any <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Has anyone any tips on static timing an Ignitor? I’ve timed them, but never had to go back to Stage One ie I’ve used a timing light and made adjustments to a running engine rather than go back to basics where the timing is completely out and the engine won’t fire at all.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Any help would be much appreciated and doubly so in Paris!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Simon<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><pre>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Support Team.Net <a href="http://www.team.net/donate.html" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Suggested annual donation $12.75<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Archive: <a href="http://www.team.net/archive" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/archive</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Forums: <a href="http://www.team.net/forums" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/forums</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre><a href="mailto:Healeys@autox.team.net" target="_blank">Healeys@autox.team.net</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>Unsubscribe/Manage: <a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/coudesluijs@chello.nl" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/coudesluijs@chello.nl</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre></blockquote><p><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>_______________________________________________<br>Support Team.Net <a href="http://www.team.net/donate.html" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br>Suggested annual donation $12.75<br>Archive: <a href="http://www.team.net/archive" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/archive</a><br>Forums: <a href="http://www.team.net/forums" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/forums</a><br><br><a href="mailto:Healeys@autox.team.net">Healeys@autox.team.net</a><br><a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys</a><br><br>Unsubscribe/Manage: <a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt@gmail.com" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt@gmail.com</a><br><br><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></body></html>