<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">Not sure is this trick will help your nephew Simon but I have found that because of the somewhat "dodgy" design of the original choke control on a BJ8 it is a little difficult to get the control to apply the 2 chokes fully. <br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">To test that the chokes are being fully applied check that, as the choke levers are pulled up as far as they can be by the cable,
the fast idle rod actually drops down and opens the throttles a
little. <br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small"></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">This rod is somewhat prone to seizing in the carb body which prevents the choke(s) moving to full travel and, as others have mentioned, a cold engine will only start with the chokes FULLY applied.<br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">Michael S<br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">BN1 #174<br> </div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 12:14 PM, Bluehealey <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:bluehealey@gmail.com" target="_blank">bluehealey@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div link="blue" vlink="purple" lang="EN-GB"><div class="m_-7413673909851590156WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">I think it’s a feature of those 2” carbs.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">The air speed across the jet is quite low at cranking speed, much lower than with HD6’s as the 8’s have 30% larger choke area for the same volume of air being pulled by the induction. As a result there is a need to get the jets pulled as low as possible to get fuel into the throats.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">The starter fluid trick seems to confirm that.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal">AlanB<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d"><img id="m_-7413673909851590156Picture_x0020_1" src="cid:image001.png@01D257BF.CBCB8B10" alt="cid:image001.png@01D18856.FC90FB60" width="192" height="87"></span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"" lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"" lang="EN-US"> Healeys [mailto:<a href="mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net" target="_blank">healeys-bounces@autox.<wbr>team.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>BJ8Healeys<br><b>Sent:</b> 16 December 2016 15:27<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net" target="_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Starting a BJ8<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><div><div class="h5"><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002060" lang="EN-US">I live on the coast of the southern USA where winters are very mild. My carbs and everything else are adjusted properly, but still my BJ8 is hard to start when it has been sitting for more than a few days -- even in the summer. I have heard discussions before from people on the list about how their Healeys are hard to start, so I think it is a characteristic of the engine (assuming all adjustments are correct, of course). The engine will start eventually, after multiple tries. But if I just give both carbs a shot of starting fluid after filling the float bowls, then jump in, pull the choke full out, and turn the key he engine starts immediately, without all that grinding on the starter. Starting fluid is cheap. Rebuilding the starter not so much.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002060" lang="EN-US"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002060" lang="EN-US">There is no accelerator pump on the SU carburetors to provide a rich mixture for starting, so "pumping" the accelerator pedal only opens and closes the throttle plates and does nothing to help the engine start.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002060" lang="EN-US"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002060" lang="EN-US">Steve Byers</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#002060" lang="EN-US"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002060" lang="EN-US">HBJ8L/36666</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#002060" lang="EN-US"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002060" lang="EN-US">BJ8 Registry</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#002060" lang="EN-US"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002060" lang="EN-US">AHCA Delegate at Large</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#002060" lang="EN-US"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002060" lang="EN-US">Havelock, NC </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#002060" lang="EN-US"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#002060" lang="EN-US"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div id="m_-7413673909851590156divtagdefaultwrapper"><div><div id="m_-7413673909851590156divRplyFwdMsg"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black" lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black" lang="EN-US"> Healeys <<a href="mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net" target="_blank">healeys-bounces@autox.team.<wbr>net</a>> on behalf of Simon Lachlan <<a href="mailto:simon.lachlan@homecall.co.uk" target="_blank">simon.lachlan@homecall.co.uk</a>><br><b>Sent:</b> December 16, 2016 11:07 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net" target="_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [Healeys] Starting a BJ8</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black" lang="EN-US"> <u></u><u></u></span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black" lang="EN-US"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><div><div><p><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black" lang="EN-US">My nephew has just recently acquired a very nice BJ8 which he imported from the US to France. Some of you may recall being asked for and kindly giving advice re vendors and cars etc.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black" lang="EN-US">Now, the car is safely tucked up in a garage in Paris and all is well......<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black" lang="EN-US">Except.....except – there’s always an “except” or a “but” isn’t there? – except, it doesn’t really like starting. It needed a new battery which we’d been told to expect but, even with that, it’s a little slow to fire up. <u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black" lang="EN-US">10+/- attempts my nephew said.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black" lang="EN-US">Now, I’m in England; the car’s in France and my nephew would be the first to admit that he’s never been a mechanic or owned a car remotely like a 3000. So, it’s very likely that his technique needs polish!<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black" lang="EN-US">(The fuel pump works; fuel get to the carbs. The ignition seems good and will soon be better (in my own humble opinion) with a Pertronix EI and a “Flamethrower”(?) coil.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black" lang="EN-US">Leaving aside any worries as to potential problems with fuel or spark for the moment:-<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black" lang="EN-US">How do you guys start your BJ8s???<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black" lang="EN-US">One pump? No pump? Choke and foot half down?<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black" lang="EN-US">What do you do if it fires then goes dead again?.....give it a little pump when it coughs, then ease off?<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black" lang="EN-US">Yes, we know that they’re all a bit different as are we, but I’m trying to establish a start point. (No pun intended!)<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black" lang="EN-US">Simon<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black" lang="EN-US"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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