<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="color:#3333ff">Michael--</div><div class="gmail_default" style="color:#3333ff"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color:#3333ff">Thanks for the input and you may be correct, but as said it is possible that the noise is nothing new and simply a function of my driving the car buttoned up. hearing what was not evident earlier. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="color:#3333ff"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color:#3333ff">Since the sound appears to be present even at idle I am going to put the car up on stands and see if I can pin it down from underneath while it is running with a stethoscope as Michael Salter suggested. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="color:#3333ff"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color:#3333ff">I don't plan to drive it till it breaks but as I said earlier if it is a failing bearing--thrust, throwout or input shaft, etc.--it will certainly make itself more evident as its condition deteriorates.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="color:#3333ff"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color:#3333ff">I am on it--Michael Oritt</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Dec 11, 2016 at 7:51 PM, Michael MacLean <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rrengineer.mike@att.net" target="_blank">rrengineer.mike@att.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif;font-size:16px"><div id="m_-887561481400065236yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1481503462862_11311">You know, by now you should have figured out you have to take it apart in any case. There is nothing you can do while it is assembled in the car. 99% of the time you never know what is really wrong until you disassemble and inspect. Best case you will end up with a new clutch and throw out bearing. Hopefully nothing wrong with the transmission, but it would not hurt to do a cursory internal inspection while it is out. Better to head off trouble before it becomes a real and expensive problem. Or, you can just drive it until it breaks. Just my 2 cents.</div><div dir="ltr" id="m_-887561481400065236yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1481503462862_11312">Mike MacLean<br></div><div id="m_-887561481400065236yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1481503462862_11313"><span></span></div> <div class="m_-887561481400065236qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div class="m_-887561481400065236yahoo_quoted" style="display:block"> <div style="font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif;font-size:16px"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div><div class="h5"> <div dir="ltr"><font size="2" face="Arial"> On Sunday, December 11, 2016 4:26 PM, Michael Oritt <<a href="mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com" target="_blank">michael.oritt@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></font></div> </div></div><blockquote style="border-left:2px solid rgb(16,16,255);margin-left:5px;margin-top:5px;padding-left:5px"> <br><br> <div class="m_-887561481400065236y_msg_container"><div><div class="h5"><div id="m_-887561481400065236yiv0134836534"><div dir="ltr"><div class="m_-887561481400065236yiv0134836534gmail_default" style="color:#3333ff">It seems unrelated to engine speed and sounds the same with the car stationary in neutral and clutch out as it does at speed in any gear.</div><div class="m_-887561481400065236yiv0134836534gmail_default" style="color:#3333ff"><br></div><div class="m_-887561481400065236yiv0134836534gmail_default" style="color:#3333ff">Best--Michael Oritt</div><div class="m_-887561481400065236yiv0134836534gmail_default" style="color:#3333ff"> </div></div><div class="m_-887561481400065236yiv0134836534gmail_extra"><br><div class="m_-887561481400065236yiv0134836534gmail_quote">On Sun, Dec 11, 2016 at 3:24 PM, Michael Salter <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" href="mailto:michaelsalter@gmail.com" target="_blank">michaelsalter@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="m_-887561481400065236yiv0134836534gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="m_-887561481400065236yiv0134836534gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">Michael,<br></div><div class="m_-887561481400065236yiv0134836534gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">Can you determine if the noise is related to engine speed?<br></div><div class="m_-887561481400065236yiv0134836534gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">Michael S<br></div></div><div class="m_-887561481400065236yiv0134836534gmail_extra"><br><div class="m_-887561481400065236yiv0134836534gmail_quote"><div><div class="m_-887561481400065236yiv0134836534h5">On Sat, Dec 10, 2016 at 4:57 PM, Michael Oritt <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" href="mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com" target="_blank">michael.oritt@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br></div></div><blockquote class="m_-887561481400065236yiv0134836534gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div class="m_-887561481400065236yiv0134836534h5"><div dir="ltr"><div class="m_-887561481400065236yiv0134836534gmail_default" style="color:rgb(51,51,255)"><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:verdana,arial,tahoma,calibri,geneva,sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(250,250,250)">While driving today I noticed a new noise: A faint but constant whining/</span></div><div class="m_-887561481400065236yiv0134836534gmail_default" style="color:rgb(51,51,255)"><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:verdana,arial,tahoma,calibri,geneva,sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(250,250,250)">purring sound that is present when the clutch pedal is NOT depressed, whether in neutral or in gear and whether in motion or sitting still. </span></div><div class="m_-887561481400065236yiv0134836534gmail_default" style="color:rgb(51,51,255)"><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:verdana,arial,tahoma,calibri,geneva,sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(250,250,250)"><br></span></div><div class="m_-887561481400065236yiv0134836534gmail_default" style="color:rgb(51,51,255)"><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:verdana,arial,tahoma,calibri,geneva,sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(250,250,250)">When I depress the clutch pedal the sound goes away. Clutch and transmission operation seem normal. BTW I have a Toyota five-speed with a BJ8 diaphragm clutch.</span><br style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:verdana,arial,tahoma,calibri,geneva,sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(250,250,250)"><br style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:verdana,arial,tahoma,calibri,geneva,sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(250,250,250)"><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:verdana,arial,tahoma,calibri,geneva,sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(250,250,250)">Thoughts please?</span><br></div><div class="m_-887561481400065236yiv0134836534gmail_default" style="color:rgb(51,51,255)"><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:verdana,arial,tahoma,calibri,geneva,sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(250,250,250)"><br></span></div><div class="m_-887561481400065236yiv0134836534gmail_default" style="color:rgb(51,51,255)"><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:verdana,arial,tahoma,calibri,geneva,sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(250,250,250)">Best--Michael Oritt</span></div></div>
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