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<div>How would you go about purging the old oil/Grease to replace it with the John Deere stuff? </div><div><br></div><div>Mike MacLean</div><div>San Bernardino (where it is 106 degrees plus on some summer days here)</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div id="composer_signature"><div style="font-size:85%;color:#575757">Sent via the Samsung GALAXY S® 5, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone</div></div><br><br>-------- Original message --------<br>From: Earl Kagna <kags@shaw.ca> <br>Date: 8/4/2016 8:06 PM (GMT-08:00) <br>To: Healey List <healeys@autox.team.net> <br>Subject: Re: [Healeys] Steering idler bits <br><br>Jim - ouch that's hot! But I'll bet that the Penrite - or John Deere corn <br>head grease, which seems to work just as well (according to others) will not <br>run at those high temps. I used the Penrite because I managed to ahold of <br>it, otherwise based on what others have experienced, I would have gone with <br>the John Deere stuff.<br><br>One 500 ml bottle easily filled both the steering box and the idler<br><br>-----Original Message----- <br>From: healeymanjim<br>Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2016 7:46 PM<br>To: Earl Kagna<br>Subject: Re: [Healeys] Steering idler bits<br><br>earl, living here las vegas not only penrite, but even CV joint grease will <br>leak out if the seal is not snug. 115 here last<br>week and the grease in my grease gun was almost liquid.<br><br>> -------Original Message-------<br>> From: Earl Kagna <kags@shaw.ca><br>> To: Simon Lachlan <simon.lachlan@homecall.co.uk>, Healey List <br>> <healeys@autox.team.net><br>> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Steering idler bits<br>> Sent: Aug 04 '16 05:57<br>><br>><br>><br>> Hello again Simon – greetings from British Columbia, Canada!<br>><br>> Can’t wait to hear who wins the race between you and your nephew<br>> when he eventually gets his Healey over the water.<br>><br>> You’ve got it a bit wrong with the idler assembly: The oil seal is<br>> normally not visible – it’s up in a recessed cavity inside the<br>> lower part of the idler body when all is assembled. Your photos are<br>> showing the lower part of the idler body itself – give it a bit of a<br>> clean and you’ll find that it’s steel. The item below it that you<br>> have identified as the ‘bush’ is actually a dust cover keeping the<br>> huge pieces away from the seal itself. It’s made of some sort of<br>> foam rubber – usually white. If memory serves, the same part is used<br>> on the handbrake shaft as a dust / hot air excluder to (theoretically)<br>> keep such things from the inside of the car.<br>><br>> The bush is illustration # 16 - P/N 1B6257 in my parts book - and<br>> serves to keep the idler shaft snug and working in the body. That way,<br>> the oil leaks out of the bottom where it should.<br>><br>> It’s worth noting - the oil seal is quite thin - most rebuilders use<br>> two of them stacked. There’s plenty of room in the idler body. This<br>> gets at least one seal lip onto a virgin part of the shaft.<br>><br>> If you had the whole works dismantled and on the bench, it would all<br>> be immediately obvious to you.<br>><br>> I fixed such a leak in situ in my tri-carb years ago by doing a sneaky<br>> drain, and refilling it with Penrite steering box lube - the stuff is<br>> purpose designed for these old beasts, and is quite thick - it<br>> doesn’t dare leak!<br>><br>> If that’s what you are trying to do, there are a couple of little<br>> tricks that will help.<br>><br>> Cheers ----<br>><br>> Earl Kagna<br>> Victoria, B.C.<br>> BJ8, BT7 tri-carb<br>><br>> FROM: Simon Lachlan<br>> SENT: Wednesday, August 03, 2016 11:31 AM<br>> TO: Healeys@autox.team.net<br>> SUBJECT: [Healeys] Steering idler bits<br>><br>> One for the experts........<br>><br>> 1) I hope that I’m right in my belief that I’ve labelled the<br>> correct same parts in the three attached pics??? I ask because they<br>> certainly don’t look the same; ie if you go from the parts book<br>> diagram to the two photos, the rubber bush looks to be twice the size<br>> and the seal bears very little resemblance to that in the diagram.<br>><br>> 2) Leaving aside that the whole area is covered in oil and filth –<br>> the residue of a leak incurred while fixing the trafficator – I<br>> think we can agree that the bush looks pretty well shot?<br>><br>> 3) Am I right in thinking that the seal and bush function to keep oil<br>> in as well as dirt out? ie that its condition matters??<br>><br>> 4) On the assumption that the bush needs replacing and that I’m<br>> going to do it ASAP, is the seal something that needs to be replaced<br>> as well or is it reusable?<br>><br>> 5) Yes, I have a fair collection of manuals to which I always<br>> refer.......But, is this one of those jobs, simple at first glance,<br>> which is full of hidden snags? I’ve not seen the dreaded words<br>> “Taking special tool” but I can’t be surprised any more by the<br>> unexpected in Healey land. Is this a job requiring big sockets and<br>> long bars or is there a hidden snag or two?<br>><br>> Thanks,<br>><br>> Simon<br>> -------------------------<br>> _______________________________________________<br>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html<br>> Suggested annual donation $12.75<br>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive<br>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums<br>><br>> Healeys@autox.team.net<br>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys<br>><br>> Unsubscribe/Manage:<br>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeymanjim@hansencc.net<br>><br>> <br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html<br>Suggested annual donation $12.75<br>Archive: http://www.team.net/archive<br>Forums: http://www.team.net/forums<br><br>Healeys@autox.team.net<br>http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys<br><br>Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rrengineer.mike@att.net<br><br></body></html>