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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>The only time I ‘ve been able to get a vacuum bleeder to work satisfactorily using a short brake line screwed in-place of the bleeder.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>It can be a bit messy yet works well.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Mike, any chance of some pictures of what you have?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#1F497D'>Tom Mitchell<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#1F497D'>1965 Austin Healey BJ8 MKIII<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Michael Salter<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, July 04, 2015 6:35 PM<br><b>To:</b> John Rowe<br><b>Cc:</b> Healey List<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Bleeding brakes<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'>With out any question the best bleeder I have ever used was the Snap-On diaphragm brake bleeder that I have owned for at least 30 years. I don't know if they are still available.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'>I had to make a special adaptor (using old ski book spring clips) to secure it to a Healey brake fluid reservoir but it makes bleeding brakes a really simple one person job which is fast and completely removes air from the system.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'>Like most commenters I have found that the vacuum bleeders never produced satisfactory results.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'>AND I never bleed the brakes in any particular order...:-)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'>Michael S<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'>BN1 #174<br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Sat, Jul 4, 2015 at 6:13 PM, John Rowe <<a href="mailto:john@jtkarowe.com.au" target="_blank">john@jtkarowe.com.au</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-AU style='color:#1F497D'>I have never had any luck with those vacuum bleeders, for that same reason of air entering through the thread of the bleeder screw. The bubbles never stop coming! Always resort to the time honoured version of opening and closing screws</span><span lang=EN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-AU style='color:#1F497D'>John Rowe</span><span lang=EN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-AU style='color:#1F497D'>Qld Australia</span><span lang=EN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-AU style='color:#1F497D'> </span><span lang=EN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-AU style='color:#1F497D'> </span><span lang=EN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'> Healeys [mailto:<a href="mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net" target="_blank">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Simon Lachlan<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, 4 July 2015 9:06 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'Healey List'<br><b>Subject:</b> [Healeys] Bleeding brakes</span><span lang=EN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-AU> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;text-autospace:none'><span lang=EN-GB style='font-family:"TimesNewRoman",serif'>Bleeding the furthest brakes is all very well, but not infallible. ie it is “best practise” but, in itself does not guarantee success. Many of us have been driven mad by spongy brakes after somehow failing to get all the air out. I know that I have.</span><span lang=EN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;text-autospace:none'><span lang=EN-GB style='font-family:"TimesNewRoman",serif'>I’ve got various manuals and one of my two BMC has this paragraph:-</span><span lang=EN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;text-autospace:none'><span lang=EN-GB style='font-family:"TimesNewRoman",serif'> </span><span lang=EN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;text-autospace:none'><span lang=EN-GB style='font-family:"TimesNewRoman",serif'>“If the bleeding of any cylinder continues without success for a considerable time it is</span><span lang=EN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;text-autospace:none'><span lang=EN-GB style='font-family:"TimesNewRoman",serif'>possible that air is being drawn in past the bleeder screw threads. In such cases tighten</span><span lang=EN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;text-autospace:none'><span lang=EN-GB style='font-family:"TimesNewRoman",serif'>the bleeder screw at the end of each downward stoke of the pedal and allow the pedal to</span><span lang=EN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;text-autospace:none'><span lang=EN-GB style='font-family:"TimesNewRoman",serif'>return fully before re-opening it. Close the bleeder screw finally during the last pedal</span><span lang=EN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-GB style='font-family:"TimesNewRoman",serif'>application.”</span><span lang=EN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-GB style='font-family:"TimesNewRoman",serif'>ie you close the bleeder while fluid is still coming out. Messy, but it works. The theory is that the air gets past the thread as you close it. Fairly coarse threads. Pretty old bits of iron...plenty of wear.</span><span lang=EN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-GB style='font-family:"TimesNewRoman",serif'> </span><span lang=EN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-GB style='font-family:"TimesNewRoman",serif'>If you use an Eazibleed or similar, it becomes easier. Just open the bleeder a little and leave it open until the bubbles stop.</span><span lang=EN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-GB style='font-family:"TimesNewRoman",serif'>Worth bearing in mind.</span><span lang=EN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-GB style='font-family:"TimesNewRoman",serif'> </span><span lang=EN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-GB style='font-family:"TimesNewRoman",serif'>Simon</span><span lang=EN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>_______________________________________________<br>Support Team.Net <a href="http://www.team.net/donate.html" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br>Suggested annual donation $12.75<br>Archive: <a href="http://www.team.net/archive" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/archive</a><br>Forums: <a href="http://www.team.net/forums" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/forums</a><br><br><a href="mailto:Healeys@autox.team.net">Healeys@autox.team.net</a><br><a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys</a><br><br>Unsubscribe/Manage: <a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter@gmail.com" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter@gmail.com</a><br><br><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br clear=all><br>-- <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>If you can't fix it with a hammer, you've got an electrical problem.</span></i><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></body></html>