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<DIV>You must not use steel core wires with a Pertronix ignition. It can cause
intermittent miss fires in ignition. You will need to install a TR6 distributor
car and carbon wires.</DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Century'; COLOR: #000000">David
Nock<BR>healeydoc@sbcglobal.net<BR>209 948
8767<BR>www.britishcarspecialists.com</DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=michael.oritt@gmail.com
href="mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com">Michael Oritt</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, June 04, 2015 6:57 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=coudesluijs@chello.nl
href="mailto:coudesluijs@chello.nl">Oudesluys</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Cc:</B> <A title=healeys@autox.team.net
href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net">Austin Healey</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Healeys] Missing under Load</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV class=gmail_default style="COLOR: #3333ff">Kees--</DIV>
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<DIV class=gmail_default style="COLOR: #3333ff">No doubt you are right. </DIV>
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<DIV class=gmail_default style="COLOR: #3333ff">Now if I can just figure out a
way to shut down the ignition systems of the other cars with which I am racing I
will be a consistent winner!</DIV>
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<DIV class=gmail_default style="COLOR: #3333ff">Best--Michael Oritt</DIV></DIV>
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<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 9:50 AM, Oudesluys <SPAN
dir=ltr><<A href="mailto:coudesluijs@chello.nl"
target=_blank>coudesluijs@chello.nl</A>></SPAN> wrote:<BR>
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<DIV>I would not be surprised at all if ECU's from nearby modern cars can be
affected.<BR>Kees Oudesluijs<BR><BR><BR>Michael Oritt schreef op 4-6-2015 om
15:37:<BR></DIV>
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<DIV class=gmail_default>What Michael says is true.</DIV>
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<DIV class=gmail_default>Here's another one that happened with my Elva
Courier race car: Once while getting ready for a race weekend I
switched distributor caps from one that had suppression leads to another
that solid core wires. As soon as I started the engine the
electro-magnetic field managed to turn my video cam, which was hard-wired
into the car's 12VDC, off and on randomly. </DIV>
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<DIV class=gmail_default>As an experiment I powered the cam from a separate
battery and even though it was about 10 feet from the car with no wires
whatsoever connecting it to the car the electromagnetic field created by the
ignition system still took control of the cam. </DIV>
<DIV class=gmail_default> </DIV>
<DIV class=gmail_default>As soon as I switched back to suppression leads the
issue went away.</DIV>
<DIV class=gmail_default> </DIV>
<DIV class=gmail_default>Best--Michael Oritt</DIV></DIV>
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<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 8:18 AM, Michael Salter <SPAN
dir=ltr><<A href="mailto:michaelsalter@gmail.com"
target=_blank>michaelsalter@gmail.com</A>></SPAN> wrote:<BR>
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<DIV class=gmail_default>Although I use them myself I do have one caution
regarding the use of solid core ignition wires.<BR></DIV>
<DIV class=gmail_default>As Michael Oritt discovered in Targa Newfoundland
they can play havoc with electronics. We encountered problems with our
"wired" intercom and Terratrip rally meter which immediately vanished when
we reverted to suppressor leads.<BR></DIV>
<DIV class=gmail_default>I have also found that my cell phone will not
receive messages or even do GPS navigation while the engine is running in
#174 which has completely original 62 year old Lucas ignition
components.<BR></DIV>
<DIV class=gmail_default>Michael S<BR></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV class=gmail_quote><SPAN>On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 7:20 AM, Simon Lachlan
<SPAN dir=ltr><<A href="mailto:simon.lachlan@homecall.co.uk"
target=_blank>simon.lachlan@homecall.co.uk</A>></SPAN>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN>Not 100% sure what you mean by “the advance
curves are retained”. In the 123 you can choose your advance
curve.</SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN>And I’m sure one of the built in choice
approximates to the original.</SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN>And yes(!), I too have a complete Lucas dizzie
in my boot. The correct rotor arm, decent old Champion plug caps, bumble
bee copper wire. Fitted with a Pertronix. Points also carried on longer
expeditions. Belt and braces!!</SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN>Simon</SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN lang=EN-US>From:</SPAN></B><SPAN lang=EN-US>
Alan Seigrist [mailto:<A href="mailto:healey.nut@gmail.com"
target=_blank>healey.nut@gmail.com</A>] <BR><B>Sent:</B> 04 June 2015
07:33<BR><B>To:</B> Simon Lachlan<BR><B>Cc:</B> Bob Spidell; Healey
list</SPAN></P></SPAN>
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<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Healeys] Missing under
Load</DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>The advantage with Pertonix over 123 is the advance
curves are retained and also if your pertronix does fry, keeping points
in the boot is easy for a backup. I have a 123 in my A90 and I
keep a full lucas dizzy with attached cam driveshaft in the boot, just
in case. Call me strange.</P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 1:42 PM, Simon Lachlan <<A
href="mailto:simon.lachlan@homecall.co.uk"
target=_blank>simon.lachlan@homecall.co.uk</A>> wrote:</P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN>Or get a 123Ignition distributor.</SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN>Simon</SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN lang=EN-US>From:</SPAN></B><SPAN lang=EN-US>
Healeys [mailto:<A href="mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net"
target=_blank>healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</A>] <B>On Behalf Of
</B>Bob Spidell<BR><B>Sent:</B> 04 June 2015 06:09<BR><B>To:</B> <A
href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"
target=_blank>healeys@autox.team.net</A><BR><B>Subject:</B> Re:
[Healeys] Missing under Load</SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>Agree across-the-board. Had same problem
with suppressor wires; installed copper stranded wires and no problem in
60K miles or so.</P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><BR><BR>re: "Strongly suggested I install points
instead of the Petronics." Why? Does he recommend
blood-letting and trepanning for headaches? I know Jeff is an
acknowledged expert, but disagree with the points recommendation.
Name a modern manufacturer--they of the 100K mile tuneups--that
recommends points? Have (probably) 80K miles on Pertronix--with
OEM Lucas cap and stranded wires--with no ignition issues (save the
occasional well-known bad rotor). If you like changing points
every 5K miles, fine, but it's not the solution to every ignition
problem.<BR><BR>You need: OEM Lucas distributor cap (if you can find
one), stranded copper wire secondary wires, OEM Lucas suppressor plug
caps, good plugs, and a quality rotor.<BR><BR>Bob</P></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>On 6/3/2015 6:33 PM, Alan Seigrist wrote:</P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>If you are running suppressed modern wires into
your standard Lucas cap, you can have huge problems, as the graphite
type materials they use in these don't like connecting to the screw
connector in the Lucas cap . You need to use metal core wires,
such as bumble bee wire. </P>
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<P class=MsoNormal>Also did you check distributor shaft wobble?
If your dizzy bushes are worn, and you have excessive wobble, you
could also be having similar problems.</P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>Lastly, check internal wires/insulating washers in
the dizzy make sure it is all kosher.</P></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 9:24 AM, R. Price Lindsay
<<A href="mailto:050.rpl@gmail.com"
target=_blank>050.rpl@gmail.com</A>> wrote:</P>
<P class=MsoNormal>Took the BJ8 out today. Changed the plug wire
to #6 (there was a visible spark last night). The car struggled
big time Had to change rotors every 3 miles in order to get the
car home. Driving along and all of a sudden backfire, black
smoke, nothing. Changed the rotor (it was noticeably hot) and
got another 2 or 3 miles out of it. Looked tonight in the dark
and the visible spark from number 6 plug was not there. Talked
to Jeff with Advanced Distributors and he suggested it was plug
wires. Strongly suggested I install points instead of the
Petronics. At his suggestion, I checked the ohm reading on the
plug wires and they checked out OK. Still wondering if it could
be bad gas, I did add a product called “Heat.” Supposed to
absorb any water that may be in the gas tank. Not much help, so
far.<BR><BR>I’m waiting for the plug wires and distributor cap from
Moss Motors to show up to install them. Hope that helps but not
really convinced it’s the solution.<BR><BR>Do you guys have any words
of wisdom for me?<BR><BR>Price Lindsay<BR>67 BJ8</P></DIV>
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