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<div> <font size="2">The critical question is when or if the company stopped hyphenating the name in its own sales literature, parts, and workshop documentation. My set of workshop manuals isn't available right now, but perhaps someone with a complete collection and/or a collection of sales brochures, could start at the end of production to see if the name was hyphenated then, and if not, go back to the point when it was hyphenated.<br>
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Just as a WAG, I suspect that the name was ALWAYS hyphenated, which would point to a careless graphic designer who was copying an older logo when designing the new badge, and thought the hyphen was just an extension of the H crossbar, rather than being a distinct feature of its own, or thought that the logo would look better if the hyphen was joined to the crossbar on the H.<br>
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1. Re: spun bearings (<a href="mailto:warthodson@aol.com">warthodson@aol.com</a>)
2. Re: Hyphened badge (Michael Oritt)
3. Re: Hyphened badge (Greg Lemon)
4. Re: Hyphened badge (Greg Lemon)
5. Re: Dog leg repair (Ray Juncal)
6. Re: Dog leg repair (I Erbs)
7. Re: Hyphened badge (Jean Caron)
8. Re: Hyphened badge (Simon Lachlan)
9. Hyphened badge (Simon Lachlan)
10. Re: spun bearings (Oudesluys)
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12. Re: Hyphened badge (HealeyRick)
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Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2015 18:26:58 -0500
From: <a href="mailto:warthodson@aol.com">warthodson@aol.com</a>
To: <a href="mailto:steveg@abrazosdata.com">steveg@abrazosdata.com</a>, <a href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] spun bearings
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One possible explanation for why the factory design included the clamping of the
bearing might be that they could not rely entirely on the bearing manufacturer &
the hub manufacturer to hold the tolerances required for a proper press fit of
the bearing. If the bearing O.D. was a little under spec & the diameter of the
recess in the hub was a little over spec. the bearing would be free to move
about. Thus the clamping & the specification on the amount of clamping.
Gary Hodson
From: Steve Gerow <a href="mailto:steveg@abrazosdata.com">steveg@abrazosdata.com</a>
Kees wrote:
>>>
Ball/needle/roller bearings can only spin when the there is debris
inside the bearing from e.g. a broken cage, balls/needles/rollers, diff
that block the bearing causing the outer cage to turn. This happens
mainly because people drive there cars until the bearing starts to break
up, well into or beyond the rumbling stage.
<<<
I don?t think it?s that absolute. In my case it was a year-old bearing that spun
with no apparent damage to the bearing other than having the outside buffed to a
high sheen. The operation remains perfectly smooth.
Personally, I?m persuaded that the act of clamping the inside and outside, per
the manual, is preferable to shrinking or driving or gluing the bearing in,
leaving the spacer loose and hoping for the best.
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Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2015 20:44:31 -0500
From: Michael Oritt <<a href="mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com">michael.oritt@gmail.com</a>>
To: Ge <<a href="mailto:gaagten@gmail.com">gaagten@gmail.com</a>>
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Subject: Re: [Healeys] Hyphened badge
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I think we have established that there was probably no consistent change
point from hyphenated to non-hyphenated which seems to support the idea
that after the decision to change was made the stock of hyphenated badges
was nevertheless used until exhausted.
However my original question was not "when" but rather "why" the switch was
made. There must have been a reason for making an affirmative decision to
do something and I am genuinely surprised that the reason has never been
made known,
Any thoughts here?
Best--Michael Oritt
On Sun, Feb 1, 2015 at 12:38 PM, Ge <<a href="mailto:gaagten@gmail.com">gaagten@gmail.com</a>> wrote:
> Hi list,
>
> 1964 BJ8 MK3 Phase 2
>
> Just checked it.
>
> Result: no hyphen
>
> It is an original dutch car imported by Stokvis in Rotterdam
>
> Regards.
>
> Ge Aagten
>
> The Netherlands
>
>
>
> *Van:* Healeys [<a href="mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net?">mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>] *Namens *Jean Caron
> *Verzonden:* vrijdag 30 januari 2015 7:13
> *Aan:* AH Mail List
> *Onderwerp:* Re: [Healeys] Hyphened badge
>
>
>
> Restoring a 1966 BJ8, no hyphen and the badge on a 1967 I did a few years
> ago, no hyphen either.
>
> Jean
>
> > From: <a href="mailto:thehartnetts@earthlink.net">thehartnetts@earthlink.net</a>
> > To: <a href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a>
> > Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2015 21:58:55 -0800
> > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Hyphened badge
> >
> >
> > No hyphen!
> >
> > (The Other) Len
> > Fairfield, CA, USA
> > 1967 AH 3000 MkIII, HBJ8L39031
> > (199,771 miles)
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Per Schoerner" <<a href="mailto:per@schoerner.se">per@schoerner.se</a>>
> > To: <<a href="mailto:josef-eckert@t-online.de">josef-eckert@t-online.de</a>>; "Healeys, Forum" <<a href="mailto:Healeys@autox.team.net">Healeys@autox.team.net</a>
> >
> > Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 2:27 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Hyphened badge
> >
> >
> > > Hi
> > > OK, so my nice badge on the shelf would be wrong for my car then,
> because
> > > I have a MkII BT7.
> > > Let's see if there is anyone with an unhyphened original badge on a
> BT7,
> > > as well as anyone that have a hyphened badge on a BJ8 or BJ7. Please
> speak
> > > up if you feel that your car fits in here.
> > >
> > > Best regards, Per
> > >
> > > <a href="mailto:josef-eckert@t-online.de">josef-eckert@t-online.de</a> skrev den 2015-01-29 22:07:
> > >> Hi Per,
> > >> I know the hyphen was lost during BJ7 production. But can`t tell you
> the
> > >> reason why.
> > >> My 62 BT7 still has the hyphen in the original badge.
> > >> Cheers,
> > >>
> > >> Josef Eckert
> > >> Konigswinter/Germany
> > >>
> > >> -----Original-Nachricht-----
> > >> Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Hyphened badge
> > >> Datum: Thu, 29 Jan 2015 21:38:58 +0100
> > >> Von: Per Schoerner <<a href="mailto:per@schoerner.se">per@schoerner.se</a>>
> > >> An: Michael Oritt <<a href="mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com">michael.oritt@gmail.com</a>>
> > >>
> > >> HI
> > >> Well, I think I have seen both MkIIs and MkIIIs with and without
> hyphen,
> > >> so I'm as curious as anyone to be enlightened as to when the
> switchover
> > >> was made.
> > >> I remember someone made a poll a couple of years ago, everyone was to
> > >> reply if they had a hyphened or unhyphened badge. Does anyone know
> what
> > >> came out of this investigation?
> > >>
> > >> Best regards, Per
> > >>
> > >> Michael Oritt skrev den 2015-01-29 20:29:
> > >>> Per--
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks for your reply but I don't think that is it. Certainly at one
> > >>> point A-H was correct and somewhere along the way it changed so that
> all
> > >>> later cars lost the hyphen. I simply wonder why and am quite
> surprised
> > >>> that there is not a known explanation.
> > >>>
> > >>> Best--Michael Oritt
> > >>>
> > >>> On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 7:54 AM, Per Schoerner <<a href="mailto:per@schoerner.se">per@schoerner.se</a>
> <<a href="mailto:per@schoerner.se">per@schoerner.se</a>%0b>> >>> <<a href="mailto:per@schoerner.se?">mailto:per@schoerner.se</a> <<a href="mailto:per@schoerner.se">per@schoerner.se</a>>>>
> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> Hi
> > >>> I have always thought that the unhyphened badges of, at least,
> > >>> MkIIs
> > >>> and MkIIIs, have been aftermarket , but maybe I'm mistaken. I have
> > >>> a
> > >>> worned out original badge on my MkII, with a hyphen, and a brand
> > >>> new
> > >>> unhyphened badge on the shelf. I hesitate to replace it, for
> > >>> origanality sakes. I'm not a 100 percent for originality, I have
> > >>> several things on my car that is not original, but I'm serious when
> > >>> it comes to badges.
> > >>>
> > >>> Per
> > >>>
> > >>> Michael Oritt skrev den 2015-01-29 02:42:
> > >>>
> > >>> BTW, I still have never heard a credible explanation as to why
> > >>> the nose
> > >>> badges changed from "Austin-Healey" to "Austin Healey" without
> > >>> the
> > >>> hyphen. Someone once posited that a supplier furnished
> > >>> incorrect
> > >>> badges
> > >>> that were bought at a discount and the rest was history but
> > >>> that
> > >>> does
> > >>> not seem likley to me.
> > >>>
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Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2015 21:40:18 -0600
From: "Greg Lemon" <<a href="mailto:glemon@neb.rr.com">glemon@neb.rr.com</a>>
To: "Michael Oritt" <<a href="mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com">michael.oritt@gmail.com</a>>,
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Subject: Re: [Healeys] Hyphened badge
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Micheal, although it doesn't answer why, it does appear that there was a
decision made at Austin/BMC or somewhere to do away with the hyphen, I quick
perusal of ebay Austin Healey advertisement shows the hyphen in most of the
fifties ads, it is gone in the sixties ads. So it doesn't appear to be just a
matter of the supplier forgetting to put it in on later pieces.
Greg Lemon
From: Michael Oritt
Sent: Sunday, February 1, 2015 7:44 PM
To: Ge
Cc: AH Mail List
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Hyphened badge
I think we have established that there was probably no consistent change point
from hyphenated to non-hyphenated which seems to support the idea that after the
decision to change was made the stock of hyphenated badges was nevertheless used
until exhausted.
However my original question was not "when" but rather "why" the switch was
made. There must have been a reason for making an affirmative decision to do
something and I am genuinely surprised that the reason has never been made
known,
Any thoughts here?
Best--Michael Oritt
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Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2015 21:46:20 -0600
From: "Greg Lemon" <<a href="mailto:glemon@neb.rr.com">glemon@neb.rr.com</a>>
To: "Michael Oritt" <<a href="mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com">michael.oritt@gmail.com</a>>
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Subject: Re: [Healeys] Hyphened badge
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Latest ad I found with a hyphen is 1960, kind of amusing, advertisement for the
new 3000, shows a car under a cover, talks about the "big reveal". Marketing to
try to stir up interest and excitement in a new model that looks like just like
the old one. <a href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/1960-Austin-Healey-3000-car-introduction-photo-vintage-print-ad-/361201874152?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item54194f34e8" target="_blank">http://www.ebay.com/itm/1960-Austin-Healey-3000-car-introduction-photo-vintage-print-ad-/361201874152?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item54194f34e8</a>
Greg Lemon
From: Michael Oritt
Sent: Sunday, February 1, 2015 7:44 PM
To: Ge
Cc: AH Mail List
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Hyphened badge
I think we have established that there was probably no consistent change point
from hyphenated to non-hyphenated which seems to support the idea that after the
decision to change was made the stock of hyphenated badges was nevertheless used
until exhausted.
However my original question was not "when" but rather "why" the switch was
made. There must have been a reason for making an affirmative decision to do
something and I am genuinely surprised that the reason has never been made
known,
Any thoughts here?
Best--Michael Oritt
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2015 03:46:36 +0000 (UTC)
From: Ray Juncal <<a href="mailto:healeyray@yahoo.com">healeyray@yahoo.com</a>>
To: Bob Spidell <<a href="mailto:bspidell@comcast.net">bspidell@comcast.net</a>>, I Erbs <<a href="mailto:eyera3@gmail.com">eyera3@gmail.com</a>>,
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Subject: Re: [Healeys] Dog leg repair
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Guys?? I don't know about fender beads but I finally got a round tuit and it
didn't help.? I still cant get anything done.RegardsRay Juncal
??????????
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Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2015 19:47:41 -0800
From: I Erbs <<a href="mailto:eyera3000@gmail.com">eyera3000@gmail.com</a>>
To: Ray Juncal <<a href="mailto:healeyray@yahoo.com">healeyray@yahoo.com</a>>
Cc: Ahealey help <<a href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a>>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Dog leg repair
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Send it along
On Feb 1, 2015 7:46 PM, "Ray Juncal" <<a href="mailto:healeyray@yahoo.com">healeyray@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:
> Guys
> I don't know about fender beads but I finally got a round tuit and it
> didn't help. I still cant get anything done.
> Regards
> Ray Juncal
>
>
> [image: Inline image]
>
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Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2015 05:13:25 +0000
From: Jean Caron <<a href="mailto:vintage_roadster_restoration@hotmail.com">vintage_roadster_restoration@hotmail.com</a>>
To: "<a href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a>" <<a href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a>>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Hyphened badge
Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:BLU173-W29EE9AD1A73FF6C3285A07D13C0@phx.gbl">BLU173-W29EE9AD1A73FF6C3285A07D13C0@phx.gbl</a>>
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While the front badge was not always hyphenated, the rear one on the trunk
(boot)always was if I am not mistaken.
Jean
From: <a href="mailto:glemon@neb.rr.com">glemon@neb.rr.com</a>
To: <a href="mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com">michael.oritt@gmail.com</a>; <a href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a>
Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2015 21:40:18 -0600
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Hyphened badge
Micheal, although it doesn't answer why, it does appear
that there was a decision made at Austin/BMC or somewhere to do away with the
hyphen, I quick perusal of ebay Austin Healey advertisement shows the hyphen in
most of the fifties ads, it is gone in the sixties ads. So it doesn't
appear to be just a matter of the supplier forgetting to put it in on
later pieces.
Greg Lemon
From: Michael Oritt
Sent: Sunday, February 1, 2015 7:44 PM
To: Ge
Cc: AH Mail List
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Hyphened badge
I think we have established that
there was probably no consistent change point from hyphenated to non-hyphenated
which seems to support the idea that after the decision to change was made the
stock of hyphenated badges was nevertheless used until exhausted.
However my original question was
not "when" but rather "why" the switch was made. There must have been a
reason for making an affirmative decision to do something and I am genuinely
surprised that the reason has never been made known,
Any thoughts here?
Best--Michael Oritt
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Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2015 06:18:18 -0000
From: "Simon Lachlan" <<a href="mailto:simon.lachlan@homecall.co.uk">simon.lachlan@homecall.co.uk</a>>
To: "'Greg Lemon'" <<a href="mailto:glemon@neb.rr.com">glemon@neb.rr.com</a>>, "'Michael Oritt'"
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Subject: Re: [Healeys] Hyphened badge
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That got me digging around in my books and pictures. Both my BMC parts book and
workshop manual are hyphenated. These books go up to and including MkII BT7.
But a pretty early, in AH terms, ad from Healeys at Warwick is unhyphenated.
Simon
100-1.jpg
From: Healeys [<a href="mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net?">mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>] On Behalf Of Greg Lemon
Sent: 02 February 2015 03:46
To: Michael Oritt
Cc: AH Mail List
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Hyphened badge
Latest ad I found with a hyphen is 1960, kind of amusing, advertisement for the
new 3000, shows a car under a cover, talks about the "big reveal". Marketing to
try to stir up interest and excitement in a new model that looks like just like
the old one. <a href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/1960-Austin-Healey-3000-car-introduction-photo-vintage-print-ad-/361201874152?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0" target="_blank">http://www.ebay.com/itm/1960-Austin-Healey-3000-car-introduction-photo-vintage-print-ad-/361201874152?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0</a>
<<a href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/1960-Austin-Healey-3000-car-introduction-photo-vintage-print-ad-/361201874152?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item54194f34e8" target="_blank">http://www.ebay.com/itm/1960-Austin-Healey-3000-car-introduction-photo-vintage-print-ad-/361201874152?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item54194f34e8</a>>
&hash=item54194f34e8
Greg Lemon
From: Michael Oritt <<a href="mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com?">mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com</a>>
Sent: Sunday, February 1, 2015 7:44 PM
To: Ge <<a href="mailto:gaagten@gmail.com?">mailto:gaagten@gmail.com</a>>
Cc: AH Mail List <<a href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net?">mailto:healeys@autox.team.net</a>>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Hyphened badge
I think we have established that there was probably no consistent change point
from hyphenated to non-hyphenated which seems to support the idea that after the
decision to change was made the stock of hyphenated badges was nevertheless used
until exhausted.
However my original question was not "when" but rather "why" the switch was
made. There must have been a reason for making an affirmative decision to do
something and I am genuinely surprised that the reason has never been made
known,
Any thoughts here?
Best--Michael Oritt
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Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2015 06:44:04 -0000
From: "Simon Lachlan" <<a href="mailto:simon.lachlan@homecall.co.uk">simon.lachlan@homecall.co.uk</a>>
To: "'AH Mail List'" <<a href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a>>
Subject: [Healeys] Hyphened badge
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That got me digging around in my books and pictures. Both my BMC parts book and
workshop manual are hyphenated. These books go up to and including MkII BT7.
But a pretty early, in AH terms, ad from Healeys at Warwick is unhyphenated.
Simon
100-1.jpg
From: Healeys [<a href="mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net?">mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>] On Behalf Of Greg Lemon
Sent: 02 February 2015 03:46
To: Michael Oritt
Cc: AH Mail List
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Hyphened badge
Latest ad I found with a hyphen is 1960, kind of amusing, advertisement for the
new 3000, shows a car under a cover, talks about the "big reveal". Marketing to
try to stir up interest and excitement in a new model that looks like just like
the old one. <a href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/1960-Austin-Healey-3000-car-introduction-photo-vintage-print-ad-/361201874152?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0" target="_blank">http://www.ebay.com/itm/1960-Austin-Healey-3000-car-introduction-photo-vintage-print-ad-/361201874152?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0</a>
<<a href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/1960-Austin-Healey-3000-car-introduction-photo-vintage-print-ad-/361201874152?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item54194f34e8" target="_blank">http://www.ebay.com/itm/1960-Austin-Healey-3000-car-introduction-photo-vintage-print-ad-/361201874152?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item54194f34e8</a>>
&hash=item54194f34e8
Greg Lemon
From: Michael Oritt <<a href="mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com?">mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com</a>>
Sent: Sunday, February 1, 2015 7:44 PM
To: Ge <<a href="mailto:gaagten@gmail.com?">mailto:gaagten@gmail.com</a>>
Cc: AH Mail List <<a href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net?">mailto:healeys@autox.team.net</a>>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Hyphened badge
I think we have established that there was probably no consistent change point
from hyphenated to non-hyphenated which seems to support the idea that after the
decision to change was made the stock of hyphenated badges was nevertheless used
until exhausted.
However my original question was not "when" but rather "why" the switch was
made. There must have been a reason for making an affirmative decision to do
something and I am genuinely surprised that the reason has never been made
known,
Any thoughts here?
Best--Michael Oritt
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Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2015 13:24:10 +0100
From: Oudesluys <<a href="mailto:coudesluijs@chello.nl">coudesluijs@chello.nl</a>>
To: <a href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] spun bearings
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In general the rotating part of a bearing (on the axle shaft in this
case) is a press fit while the stationary part (in the rear axle
housing) is a push fit. Tolerances on bearings are quite tight, but the
axle housing could be a different matter. Even when the outer race of
the bearing is a bit on the loose side it should not spin in the axle
housing. If it does it is worn and/or with debris inside. If a bearing
has spun, it is often sufficient to replace the bearing and using some
Locktide between outer race and housing. This will however make
disassembly in the future more difficult.
Kees Oudesluijs
NL
<a href="mailto:warthodson@aol.com">warthodson@aol.com</a> schreef op 2-2-2015 om 0:26:
> One possible explanation for why the factory design included the
> clamping of the bearing might be that they could not rely entirely on
> the bearing manufacturer & the hub manufacturer to hold the tolerances
> required for a proper press fit of the bearing. If the
> bearing O.D. was a little under spec & the diameter of the recess in
> the hub was a little over spec. the bearing would be free to move
> about. Thus the clamping & the specification on the amount of clamping.
> Gary Hodson
> From: Steve Gerow <a href="mailto:steveg@abrazosdata.com">steveg@abrazosdata.com</a> <<a href="mailto:steveg@abrazosdata.com?">mailto:steveg@abrazosdata.com</a>>
> Kees wrote:
> >>>
>
> Ball/needle/roller bearings can only spin when the there is debris
> inside the bearing from e.g. a broken cage, balls/needles/rollers, diff
> that block the bearing causing the outer cage to turn. This happens
> mainly because people drive there cars until the bearing starts to break
> up, well into or beyond the rumbling stage.
> <<<
> I don?t think it?s that absolute. In my case it was a year-old bearing
> that spun with no apparent damage to the bearing other than having the
> outside buffed to a high sheen. The operation remains perfectly smooth.
> Personally, I?m persuaded that the act of clamping the inside and
> outside, per the manual, is preferable to shrinking or driving or
> gluing the bearing in, leaving the spacer loose and hoping for the best.
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Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2015 10:19:20 -0500
From: <a href="mailto:warthodson@aol.com">warthodson@aol.com</a>
To: <a href="mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com">michael.oritt@gmail.com</a>, <a href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Hyphened badge
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Michael,
I think it is an interesting question.
You ask for thoughts, so here is one purely speculative possibility. The factory
decided to change badge vendors for some reason. Perhaps lower cost, better
quality, friend of the CEO, etc. The new vendor screwed up (did not notice the
hyphen on the sample badge they were copying). The factory also did not notice
the change or by the time the new supply of badges arrived they did not have
time to wait for the new vendor to make another batch or no one at the factory
really cared one way or the other about the hyphen, so just ignored the change.
I have an original MkII badge with hyphen & an original MkIII badge from a 1964
Phase 1 BJ8 without hyphen. Neither of these badges have any markings on the
underside that would give a clue as to who the manufacturer was. Also, they both
seem to have almost identical construction which would lead me to believe that
they came from the same manufacturer. So, that would not seem to support my
theory.
Gary Hodson
From: Michael Oritt <a href="mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com">michael.oritt@gmail.com</a>
I think we have established that there was probably no consistent change point
from hyphenated to non-hyphenated which seems to support the idea that after the
decision to change was made the stock of hyphenated badges was nevertheless used
until exhausted.
However my original question was not "when" but rather "why" the switch was
made. There must have been a reason for making an affirmative decision to do
something and I am genuinely surprised that the reason has never been made
known,
Any thoughts here?
Best--Michael Oritt
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Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2015 06:45:08 -1000
From: HealeyRick <<a href="mailto:healeyrik@gmail.com">healeyrik@gmail.com</a>>
To: Ge <<a href="mailto:gaagten@gmail.com">gaagten@gmail.com</a>>
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A local photograph took this shot of my BJ7 boot badge (HBJ7L-20969) while
it was parked in the parking lot at the Misslewood Concours in Beverly, MA
this summer (with hyphen)
On Sun, Feb 1, 2015 at 7:38 AM, Ge <<a href="mailto:gaagten@gmail.com">gaagten@gmail.com</a>> wrote:
> Hi list,
>
> 1964 BJ8 MK3 Phase 2
>
> Just checked it.
>
> Result: no hyphen
>
> It is an original dutch car imported by Stokvis in Rotterdam
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> Regards.
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