From guentheh at msn.com  Mon Mar  2 14:08:05 2026
From: guentheh at msn.com (Hart Guenther)
Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2026 21:08:05 +0000
Subject: [Healeys] Fuel pump
Message-ID: <BY5PR02MB6628438943F9E0165C46847ECD67A@BY5PR02MB6628.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>

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Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S25 Ultra, an AT&T 5G smartphone


-------- Original message --------
From: Michael Salter via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net>
Date: 2/4/26 22:46 (GMT-05:00)
To: Al Fuller <alfuller194 at gmail.com>
Cc: healeys <Healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fuel pump

One thing about the SU type of fuel pump which is often misunderstood is what happens to the pump in the event that the inlet becomes blocked. In that situation the low pressure on the inlet side of the diaphragm prevents the armature from rising and the points from opening.  This means that current continues to pass through the coil until sufficient fuel passes into the pump through the blockage to allow the diaphragm to rise and the points to open. This causes the coil to overheat and become weakened.
If you are trying to rebuild a pump and the "tick, tick" seems rather anemic it is likely that a damaged and weakened coil is very the cause.
Hopefully this will save people from wasting time in this situation.

M


________________________________
From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of Al Fuller via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, February 4, 2026 7:58:09 PM
To: Jean Caron <vintage_roadster_restoration at hotmail.com>
Cc: healeys <Healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fuel pump

Pulling out the pump and checking on the bench might be in order.

As to the weather, it's just getting to be driving season here in the desert. :)

________________
Sent from my phone
Best Regards,
Al Fuller

On Tue, Feb 3, 2026, 3:23?PM Jean Caron <vintage_roadster_restoration at hotmail.com<mailto:vintage_roadster_restoration at hotmail.com>> wrote:
It is February, take it out and rebuild it.

Jean

Sent from my Bell Samsung device over Canada?s largest network.
________________________________
From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net<mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net>> on behalf of Fred Wescoe <fredwescoe at gmail.com<mailto:fredwescoe at gmail.com>>
Sent: Tuesday, February 3, 2026 4:02:17 PM
To: healeys <Healeys at autox.team.net<mailto:Healeys at autox.team.net>>
Subject: [Healeys] Fuel pump

Listers,

I have the standard SU fuel pump on my 66 BJ8.  It was rebuilt several years ago and the car ran with the pump with no problems.

The car has been sitting for about 8 months now and the pump will not run.

I have tried smacking the pump with a rubber hammer but no joy.  Is there another way to get the pump started without removing it and opening it up?

As always, thanks in advance for your help.

Fred

66 BJ8
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From rchaskell at earthlink.net  Sat Mar  7 09:24:35 2026
From: rchaskell at earthlink.net (Bob Haskell)
Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2026 11:24:35 -0500
Subject: [Healeys] OD 3rd/4th switch
Message-ID: <2ae42311-6617-4d1f-b6b7-1acec313bad8@earthlink.net>

Listers,

Anyone know what the thread size is for the overdrive 3rd/4th gear 
switch on the center shift gearbox?? Seems to be 5/8"-13 TPI.

-- 
Bob Haskell
Austin-Healey 3000 roadster registrar


From healeyray at yahoo.com  Tue Mar 10 17:49:54 2026
From: healeyray at yahoo.com (Ray Juncal)
Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2026 23:49:54 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Healeys] HACK WARNING
References: <695582237.3122322.1773186594577.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <695582237.3122322.1773186594577@mail.yahoo.com>

I opened a email with Mike Salter's name and got a locked screen and a big mess. Be very careful. Hover on Mikes name and check the address before you open it.
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From gradea1 at charter.net  Tue Mar 10 18:25:55 2026
From: gradea1 at charter.net (Hank Leach)
Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2026 00:25:55 +0000
Subject: [Healeys] HACK WARNING
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From michael.salter at gmail.com  Tue Mar 10 18:29:32 2026
From: michael.salter at gmail.com (Michael Salter)
Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2026 00:29:32 +0000
Subject: [Healeys] HACK WARNING
In-Reply-To: <695582237.3122322.1773186594577@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <695582237.3122322.1773186594577.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <695582237.3122322.1773186594577@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BY5PR04MB6931664F96691F7F7459A4B8A147A@BY5PR04MB6931.namprd04.prod.outlook.com>

Thanks Ray  it seems that I have been hacked.
I thwarted an attemped scam related to an ad that I have on the AHCA website market place and it seems that this hack is connected with that scam.
Please proceed carefully as Ray describes.

M


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From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of Ray Juncal via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2026 7:49:54 PM
To: List Healey <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Healeys] HACK WARNING

I opened a email with Mike Salter's name and got a locked screen and a big mess. Be very careful. Hover on Mikes name and check the address before you open it.
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From michaelsalter at gmail.com  Fri Mar 20 10:23:54 2026
From: michaelsalter at gmail.com (Michael Salter)
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2026 12:23:54 -0400
Subject: [Healeys] Replacement Turn Signal Relay.
Message-ID: <CAB3i7LJvcCxg0bWj9d+PpRZKK6c3LJPQFy2Q4yD-kQN7hHrkbQ@mail.gmail.com>

All Big Healeys prior to the later Phase 2 BJ8 use a Lusas 33117 relay for
the turn signals. This relay connects the appropriate lamps to the turn
signal flasher unit, overriding the brake light switch on turns.
These Lucas relays were a very primitive (by today's standards) but very
robust unit and could withstand a short circuit as often happens with the
glass lens type 594 turn/side/brake lamps used on these models at least
until the fuse blew.
Within these lamps it is very easy to produce a short to ground.
Over the last few years replacements for these relays have been
provided, under the Lucas name and the same 33117 part number, which have
been completely redesigned and incorporate 2 modern G2R-1-E relays.
I have purchased 2 of these modern style relays and both have failed
because the  G2R-1-E relay relays don't seem to be anywhere near as robust
as the originals and fail before the 35 amp fuse can protect them..
So, a word of caution, if you are using one of these (improved) cheapo repo
turn signal relays, be very careful to avoid short circuits in the
turn/brake/side lamps.
The attached pics are of the original type and the circuit board from the
"improved" replacement.

M
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From gradea1 at charter.net  Fri Mar 20 11:38:12 2026
From: gradea1 at charter.net (Hank Leach)
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2026 17:38:12 +0000
Subject: [Healeys] Replacement Turn Signal Relay.
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From rantal243 at yahoo.com  Fri Mar 20 14:25:47 2026
From: rantal243 at yahoo.com (Richard Antal)
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2026 20:25:47 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Healeys] Original Abarth BJ8 Exhaust
References: <982013153.1235960.1774038347562.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <982013153.1235960.1774038347562@mail.yahoo.com>

Healeyphiles,? ? ?I've had this exhaust system on my BJ8 for 35 years and more than 100,000 miles. It is still flawless. Ten years ago, thinking that surely the existing Abarth could not possibly last much longer, I purchased from a Healey owner in NY the same Abarth exhaust which he had used for 600 miles (he claimed). The original Abarth stickers are still on the resonators. This exhaust system has been sitting in my garage ever since because my original one refuses to die. It has the most delightful rumble. You'll love it.? ? ? The time has come to clean the garage. I'll sell this for $500 to anyone who will come to Portsmouth NH to collect it. Pictures available. Contact me at rantal243 at yahoo.com.?rich antal? ??
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From michael.oritt at gmail.com  Fri Mar 20 14:45:18 2026
From: michael.oritt at gmail.com (Michael Oritt)
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2026 16:45:18 -0400
Subject: [Healeys] Replacement Turn Signal Relay.
In-Reply-To: <ee373908-49cb-ba04-562a-f822ca1e74a5@charter.net>
References: <ee373908-49cb-ba04-562a-f822ca1e74a5@charter.net>
Message-ID: <CAPTa0B6qdG24q5ueJinPeRwh6-uZgptAEzhFWY-acnAE3Yq7Gg@mail.gmail.com>

Avoiding toasted wires and appliances trumps originality for me and I try
to protect all circuits with either cb's or fuses and to separate
applications as much as possible.Though some well-respected Healey service
people think otherwise, I have never understood the concept of not
protecting headlights.  Yes, a fuse might burn or a cb might trip, taking
the lights out but, lacking protection, whatever caused that to happen
would probably burn up the wiring.  As to the original setup which used a
50 amp fuse I think one may as well have used a nail.

BTW I wonder what The Stones meant when in "You Can't Always Get What You
Want" they sang:

*And I went down to the demonstration *
*To get my fair share of abuse *
*Singing, "We're gonna vent our frustration" *
*If we don't, we're going to blow a 50-amp fuse" *

Maybe one of them owned a Healey?

Best--Michael Oritt

On Fri, Mar 20, 2026 at 2:04?PM Hank Leach via Healeys <
healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:

> Yes, and time for a reminder to fuse the tail lights *red wire* as if in
> a rear end collision the shorting of the lamps could burn all the way down
> to the panel. At the same time the headlights, which are also unfused,
> could use an inline unit at the* blue wire* of the headlight switch. Not
> much fusing on the Healeys which makes for good Lucas smoke. Hank
> --------------------
>
> From: "Michael Salter" <michaelsalter at gmail.com>
> To: <healeys at autox.team.net>
> Sent: March 20, 2026 at 9:50 AM PDT
> Subject: [Healeys] Replacement Turn Signal Relay.
> All Big Healeys prior to the later Phase 2 BJ8 use a Lusas 33117 relay for
> the turn signals. This relay connects the appropriate lamps to the turn
> signal flasher unit, overriding the brake light switch on turns.
> These Lucas relays were a very primitive (by today's standards) but very
> robust unit and could withstand a short circuit as often happens with the
> glass lens type 594 turn/side/brake lamps used on these models at least
> until the fuse blew.
> Within these lamps it is very easy to produce a short to ground.
> Over the last few years replacements for these relays have been
> provided, under the Lucas name and the same 33117 part number, which have
> been completely redesigned and incorporate 2 modern G2R-1-E relays.
> I have purchased 2 of these modern style relays and both have failed
> because the  G2R-1-E relay relays don't seem to be anywhere near as robust
> as the originals and fail before the 35 amp fuse can protect them..
> So, a word of caution, if you are using one of these (improved) cheapo
> repo turn signal relays, be very careful to avoid short circuits in the
> turn/brake/side lamps.
> The attached pics are of the original type and the circuit board from the
> "improved" replacement.
>
> M
>
>
>
>
>
>
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From gradea1 at charter.net  Fri Mar 20 16:59:05 2026
From: gradea1 at charter.net (Hank Leach)
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2026 22:59:05 +0000
Subject: [Healeys] Replacement Turn Signal Relay.
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From simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com  Sun Mar 22 04:42:08 2026
From: simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com (simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com)
Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2026 10:42:08 +0000
Subject: [Healeys] Replacement Turn Signal Relay.
In-Reply-To: <CAB3i7LJvcCxg0bWj9d+PpRZKK6c3LJPQFy2Q4yD-kQN7hHrkbQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAB3i7LJvcCxg0bWj9d+PpRZKK6c3LJPQFy2Q4yD-kQN7hHrkbQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <LOAP302MB2202D20C2CFD00E9EDDB26E4F34AA@LOAP302MB2202.GBRP302.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>

Regarding these contraptions, there is a third way. I've mentioned it to M before....one can gut the old relay and rebuild its internals with new, modern, relays. I've done two or three. The first because my original had gone into terminal decay and the others because I'd bought clapped out originals at a boot fair. Anyhow, the first one's been in the car for some years now and works fine. The others are in one of the "boxes of useful things I may need one day". I've done the same to overdrive relays. By the way, I don't claim to be the first person to have done this!!
Simon
________________________________
From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of Michael Salter <michaelsalter at gmail.com>
Sent: 20 March 2026 16:23
To: healeys at autox.team.net <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Healeys] Replacement Turn Signal Relay.

All Big Healeys prior to the later Phase 2 BJ8 use a Lusas 33117 relay for the turn signals. This relay connects the appropriate lamps to the turn signal flasher unit, overriding the brake light switch on turns.
These Lucas relays were a very primitive (by today's standards) but very robust unit and could withstand a short circuit as often happens with the glass lens type 594 turn/side/brake lamps used on these models at least until the fuse blew.
Within these lamps it is very easy to produce a short to ground.
Over the last few years replacements for these relays have been provided, under the Lucas name and the same 33117 part number, which have been completely redesigned and incorporate 2 modern G2R-1-E relays.
I have purchased 2 of these modern style relays and both have failed because the  G2R-1-E relay relays don't seem to be anywhere near as robust as the originals and fail before the 35 amp fuse can protect them..
So, a word of caution, if you are using one of these (improved) cheapo repo turn signal relays, be very careful to avoid short circuits in the turn/brake/side lamps.
The attached pics are of the original type and the circuit board from the "improved" replacement.

M
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From josef-eckert at t-online.de  Sun Mar 22 05:48:35 2026
From: josef-eckert at t-online.de (josef-eckert at t-online.de)
Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2026 12:48:35 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Healeys] Replacement of Turn Signal Relay.
In-Reply-To: <LOAP302MB2202D20C2CFD00E9EDDB26E4F34AA@LOAP302MB2202.GBRP302.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
References: <CAB3i7LJvcCxg0bWj9d+PpRZKK6c3LJPQFy2Q4yD-kQN7hHrkbQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <1774180115882.577576.f0204525c3c8b792628d994705786d99bd1cec43@spica.telekom.de>

 
 
 
 
Michael,
Since it's almost the same topic, but what bothers me much more is 
replacing the relays on the 6-cylinder Austin-Healeys.
The top screw that holds the relay is inaccessible with a screwdriver when 
the cold air duct is installed. The same goes for
the upper cable clamps. Is there a trick to removing the faulty turn signal 
relay and installing a replacement without removing
the cold air duct and potentially damaging or crumpling it?
Thank you for any helpful suggestions.
 
 
Josef Eckert 
K?nigswinter/Germany

 

 

 

 

 

-----Original-Nachricht-----

Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Replacement Turn Signal Relay.

Datum: 2026-03-22T12:33:37+0100

Von: "simon.lachlan--- via Healeys" <healeys at autox.team.net>

An: "Michael Salter" <michaelsalter at gmail.com>, "healeys at autox.team.net" 
<healeys at autox.team.net>

 

 

 

Regarding these contraptions, there is a third way. I've mentioned it to M 
before....one can gut the old relay and rebuild its internals with new, 
modern, relays. I've done two or three. The first because my original had 
gone into terminal decay and the others because I'd bought clapped out 
originals at a boot fair. Anyhow, the first one's been in the car for some 
years now and works fine. The others are in one of the "boxes of useful 
things I may need one day". I've done the same to overdrive relays. By the 
way, I don't claim to be the first person to have done this!!
Simon
 
------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of Michael Salter 
<michaelsalter at gmail.com>
Sent: 20 March 2026 16:23
To: healeys at autox.team.net <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Healeys] Replacement Turn Signal Relay.
 
All Big Healeys prior to the later Phase 2 BJ8 use a Lusas 33117 relay for 
the turn signals. This relay connects the appropriate lamps to the turn 
signal flasher unit, overriding the brake light switch on turns.
These Lucas relays were a very primitive (by today's standards) but very 
robust unit and could withstand a short circuit as often happens with the 
glass lens type 594 turn/side/brake lamps used on these models at least 
until the fuse blew.
Within these lamps it is very easy to produce a short to ground.
Over the last few years replacements for these relays have been provided, 
under the Lucas name and the same 33117 part number, which have been 
completely redesigned and incorporate 2 modern G2R-1-E relays. 
I have purchased 2 of these modern style relays and both have failed 
because the  G2R-1-E relay relays don't seem to be anywhere near as robust 
as the originals and fail before the 35 amp fuse can protect them.   
So, a word of caution, if you are using one of these (improved) cheapo repo 
turn signal relays, be very careful to avoid short circuits in the 
turn/brake/side lamps.
The attached pics are of the original type and the circuit board from the 
"improved" replacement.
 
M 
[image.png]
[image.png]

 
 

 

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From goldengt at cal.net  Sun Mar 22 10:15:04 2026
From: goldengt at cal.net (Ken)
Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2026 09:15:04 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] Replacement of Turn Signal Relay.
In-Reply-To: <1774180115882.577576.f0204525c3c8b792628d994705786d99bd1cec43@spica.telekom.de>
Message-ID: <4ff1bv2BrkzSySTH@allmail.cal.net>

A couple of months ago, I gave up and cut the duct then inserted a sleeve for this same reason.?Ken Freese65 BJ8Sent from my Galaxy
-------- Original message --------From: josef-eckert at t-online.de Date: 3/22/26  4:56 AM  (GMT-08:00) To: Michael Salter <michaelsalter at gmail.com>, healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Replacement of Turn Signal Relay. 



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Michael, 
Since it's almost the same topic, but what bothers me much more is replacing the relays on the 6-cylinder Austin-Healeys. 
The top screw that holds the relay is inaccessible with a screwdriver when the cold air duct is installed. The same goes for 
the upper cable clamps. Is there a trick to removing the faulty turn signal relay and installing a replacement without removing 
the cold air duct and potentially damaging or crumpling it? 
Thank you for any helpful suggestions. 
?
?
Josef Eckert?
K?nigswinter/Germany









?
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?
?
?
-----Original-Nachricht-----
Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Replacement Turn Signal Relay.
Datum: 2026-03-22T12:33:37+0100
Von: "simon.lachlan--- via Healeys" <healeys at autox.team.net>
An: "Michael Salter" <michaelsalter at gmail.com>, "healeys at autox.team.net" <healeys at autox.team.net>
?
?
?

Regarding these contraptions, there is a third way. I've mentioned it to M before....one can gut the old relay and rebuild its internals with new, modern, relays. I've done two or three. The first because my original had gone into terminal decay and the others because I'd bought clapped out originals at a boot fair. Anyhow, the first one's been in the car for some years now and works fine. The others are in one of the "boxes of useful things I may need one day". I've done the same to overdrive relays. By the way, I don't claim to be the first person to have done this!!
Simon
?

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of Michael Salter <michaelsalter at gmail.com>Sent: 20 March 2026 16:23To: healeys at autox.team.net <healeys at autox.team.net>Subject: [Healeys] Replacement Turn Signal Relay.
?




All Big Healeys prior to the later Phase 2 BJ8 use a Lusas 33117 relay for the turn signals. This relay connects the appropriate?lamps to the turn signal flasher unit, overriding?the brake light switch on turns.
These Lucas relays were a very primitive?(by today's standards) but very robust unit and could withstand a short circuit as often happens with the glass lens?type?594?turn/side/brake lamps used on these models at least until the fuse blew.
Within these lamps it is very easy to produce a short to ground.
Over the last few years replacements for these relays have been provided,?under the Lucas?name and the same 33117 part number, which have been completely redesigned and incorporate 2 modern G2R-1-E relays.?
I have purchased?2 of these modern style?relays and both have failed because the? G2R-1-E relay relays don't seem to be anywhere near as robust as the originals and fail before the 35 amp fuse can protect them.? ?
So, a word of caution, if you are using one of these (improved) cheapo repo turn signal relays, be very careful to avoid short circuits in the turn/brake/side lamps.
The attached?pics are of the original type and the circuit board from the "improved" replacement.
?
M?

?
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From michaelsalter at gmail.com  Sun Mar 22 10:28:26 2026
From: michaelsalter at gmail.com (Michael Salter)
Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2026 12:28:26 -0400
Subject: [Healeys] Replacement of Turn Signal Relay.
In-Reply-To: <1774180115882.577576.f0204525c3c8b792628d994705786d99bd1cec43@spica.telekom.de>
References: <CAB3i7LJvcCxg0bWj9d+PpRZKK6c3LJPQFy2Q4yD-kQN7hHrkbQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <LOAP302MB2202D20C2CFD00E9EDDB26E4F34AA@LOAP302MB2202.GBRP302.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
 <1774180115882.577576.f0204525c3c8b792628d994705786d99bd1cec43@spica.telekom.de>
Message-ID: <CAB3i7L+GUF-Vjx+xMLbbX49ko9L1MJi2-t0bSFGHi5Hxv=sz3g@mail.gmail.com>

You are absolutely correct josef.
This is my trick. Remove the left front wheel and find the weld-nut for
that screw.
Carefully grind off the end of the screw to the level of the weld-nut then,
very carefully, starting with a 1/16" dbit, drill out the 10/32 screw
without damaging the weld-nut too much.
This will release the top of the relay. Run a 10/32 tap through the
weld-nut then take out the 2 lower screws and tackle the 8 terminal screws.
Back in the day the relays weren't that expensive and we used to just
replace them when they were thought to be faulty however, I gathered up the
removed ones in a bin.
Last week, after the problems that I had with my second cheapo repo, I
pulled 5 of them out of the bin and checked them.
The biggest problem was getting the slot cheese head terminal screws out
without breaking them but a little carefully applied heat solved that.
Once I removed the covers and cleaned up the 8 terminals I was amazed that
every one, after a couple of very minor adjustments, could be made to work
perfectly.
Not one of the coils, the component that I had always suspected was the
most likely point of failure, had any sort of problem.
I now have 5 fully functional turn signal relays that I'm in the process of
refinishing.
Getting that top screw in will still be difficult but it can be done before
refitting the cover.

M



On Sun, Mar 22, 2026 at 7:48?AM josef-eckert at t-online.de <
josef-eckert at t-online.de> wrote:

>
>
>
>
> Michael,
> Since it's almost the same topic, but what bothers me much more is
> replacing the relays on the 6-cylinder Austin-Healeys.
> The top screw that holds the relay is inaccessible with a screwdriver when
> the cold air duct is installed. The same goes for
> the upper cable clamps. Is there a trick to removing the faulty turn
> signal relay and installing a replacement without removing
> the cold air duct and potentially damaging or crumpling it?
> Thank you for any helpful suggestions.
>
>
> Josef Eckert
> K?nigswinter/Germany
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original-Nachricht-----
>
> Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Replacement Turn Signal Relay.
>
> Datum: 2026-03-22T12:33:37+0100
>
> Von: "simon.lachlan--- via Healeys" <healeys at autox.team.net>
>
> An: "Michael Salter" <michaelsalter at gmail.com>, "healeys at autox.team.net" <
> healeys at autox.team.net>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Regarding these contraptions, there is a third way. I've mentioned it to M
> before....one can gut the old relay and rebuild its internals with new,
> modern, relays. I've done two or three. The first because my original had
> gone into terminal decay and the others because I'd bought clapped out
> originals at a boot fair. Anyhow, the first one's been in the car for some
> years now and works fine. The others are in one of the "boxes of useful
> things I may need one day". I've done the same to overdrive relays. By the
> way, I don't claim to be the first person to have done this!!
> Simon
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of Michael
> Salter <michaelsalter at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* 20 March 2026 16:23
> *To:* healeys at autox.team.net <healeys at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* [Healeys] Replacement Turn Signal Relay.
>
> All Big Healeys prior to the later Phase 2 BJ8 use a Lusas 33117 relay for
> the turn signals. This relay connects the appropriate lamps to the turn
> signal flasher unit, overriding the brake light switch on turns.
> These Lucas relays were a very primitive (by today's standards) but very
> robust unit and could withstand a short circuit as often happens with the
> glass lens type 594 turn/side/brake lamps used on these models at least
> until the fuse blew.
> Within these lamps it is very easy to produce a short to ground.
> Over the last few years replacements for these relays have been
> provided, under the Lucas name and the same 33117 part number, which have
> been completely redesigned and incorporate 2 modern G2R-1-E relays.
> I have purchased 2 of these modern style relays and both have failed
> because the  G2R-1-E relay relays don't seem to be anywhere near as robust
> as the originals and fail before the 35 amp fuse can protect them.
> So, a word of caution, if you are using one of these (improved) cheapo
> repo turn signal relays, be very careful to avoid short circuits in the
> turn/brake/side lamps.
> The attached pics are of the original type and the circuit board from the
> "improved" replacement.
>
> M
> [image: image.png]
> [image: image.png]
>
>
>
>
>
> ?
>
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From manifold at telus.net  Sun Mar 22 10:43:47 2026
From: manifold at telus.net (Harold Manifold)
Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2026 09:43:47 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] Replacement of Turn Signal Relay.
In-Reply-To: <4ff1bv2BrkzSySTH@allmail.cal.net>
References: <1774180115882.577576.f0204525c3c8b792628d994705786d99bd1cec43@spica.telekom.de>
 <4ff1bv2BrkzSySTH@allmail.cal.net>
Message-ID: <CAFP1XCBgp-EbBCiDFCo_pLXTRzoyeCApteqxAzRfZxt3LCYqrw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

When I restored my car, I opted for wire-reinforced ducting for the cold
air and heater ducts. While it is not concours correct, it looks very
similar to the original unless you look closely.

The primary advantage is that the wire-reinforced ducting is crush-proof
and can be easily moved out of the way to access those hidden screws.

Best regards,

Harold

On Sun, Mar 22, 2026 at 9:23?AM Ken via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> A couple of months ago, I gave up and cut the duct then inserted a sleeve
> for this same reason.
> Ken Freese
> 65 BJ8
>
>
>
> Sent from my Galaxy
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: josef-eckert at t-online.de
> Date: 3/22/26 4:56 AM (GMT-08:00)
> To: Michael Salter <michaelsalter at gmail.com>, healeys at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Healeys] Replacement of Turn Signal Relay.
>
>
>
>
>
> Michael,
> Since it's almost the same topic, but what bothers me much more is
> replacing the relays on the 6-cylinder Austin-Healeys.
> The top screw that holds the relay is inaccessible with a screwdriver when
> the cold air duct is installed. The same goes for
> the upper cable clamps. Is there a trick to removing the faulty turn
> signal relay and installing a replacement without removing
> the cold air duct and potentially damaging or crumpling it?
> Thank you for any helpful suggestions.
>
>
> Josef Eckert
> K?nigswinter/Germany
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original-Nachricht-----
>
> Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Replacement Turn Signal Relay.
>
> Datum: 2026-03-22T12:33:37+0100
>
> Von: "simon.lachlan--- via Healeys" <healeys at autox.team.net>
>
> An: "Michael Salter" <michaelsalter at gmail.com>, "healeys at autox.team.net" <
> healeys at autox.team.net>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Regarding these contraptions, there is a third way. I've mentioned it to M
> before....one can gut the old relay and rebuild its internals with new,
> modern, relays. I've done two or three. The first because my original had
> gone into terminal decay and the others because I'd bought clapped out
> originals at a boot fair. Anyhow, the first one's been in the car for some
> years now and works fine. The others are in one of the "boxes of useful
> things I may need one day". I've done the same to overdrive relays. By the
> way, I don't claim to be the first person to have done this!!
> Simon
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of Michael
> Salter <michaelsalter at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* 20 March 2026 16:23
> *To:* healeys at autox.team.net <healeys at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* [Healeys] Replacement Turn Signal Relay.
>
> All Big Healeys prior to the later Phase 2 BJ8 use a Lusas 33117 relay for
> the turn signals. This relay connects the appropriate lamps to the turn
> signal flasher unit, overriding the brake light switch on turns.
> These Lucas relays were a very primitive (by today's standards) but very
> robust unit and could withstand a short circuit as often happens with the
> glass lens type 594 turn/side/brake lamps used on these models at least
> until the fuse blew.
> Within these lamps it is very easy to produce a short to ground.
> Over the last few years replacements for these relays have been
> provided, under the Lucas name and the same 33117 part number, which have
> been completely redesigned and incorporate 2 modern G2R-1-E relays.
> I have purchased 2 of these modern style relays and both have failed
> because the  G2R-1-E relay relays don't seem to be anywhere near as robust
> as the originals and fail before the 35 amp fuse can protect them.
> So, a word of caution, if you are using one of these (improved) cheapo
> repo turn signal relays, be very careful to avoid short circuits in the
> turn/brake/side lamps.
> The attached pics are of the original type and the circuit board from the
> "improved" replacement.
>
> M
> [image: image.png]
> [image: image.png]
>
>
>
>
>
> ?
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