From dmasucci at charter.net Sat Aug 1 14:01:00 2026 From: dmasucci at charter.net (dmasucci) Date: Sat, 01 Aug 2026 16:01:00 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] British Parts Northwest starter In-Reply-To: <1DED8517-A531-4F14-996B-F7D28262FB12@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi All,?I received my new starter. It took a bit of time to install, but well worth it. It doesn't sound quite like a Healey during startup, but wow it sure does the job nicely.?Thanks to all for the helpful responses.Dave??Sent from my Galaxy -------- Original message --------From: Chris Masucci Date: 7/25/26 4:25 PM (GMT-05:00) To: dmasucci Subject: Re: [Healeys] British Parts Northwest starter I think I either bought a cheapy off a British parts guy from eBay or from BPN. I love mine. No kick outs ever!!!ChrisSent from my iPhoneOn Jul 25, 2026, at 7:09?AM, dmasucci via Healeys wrote:?Hi All,I've decided to replace my BJ8 starter with a gear reduction starter from British Parts Nortwest. The part number is: 16131AHDAre there any opinions or experiences from anyone on the list as to whether this is a good choice?Thanks in advance,Dave MasucciSent from my Galaxy_______________________________________________Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.htmlSuggested annual donation ?$12.75Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeysHealeys at autox.team.nethttp://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeysUnsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/cmmasucci at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 20260801_154736.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 4356134 bytes Desc: not available URL: From simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com Tue Aug 4 05:55:25 2026 From: simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com (simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com) Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2026 12:55:25 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Noise on engaging clutch Message-ID: <004001dd2408$22e90de0$68bb29a0$@alexarevel.plus.com> Hi, I need advice regarding a new issue pertaining to my clutch/gearbox. At least that is my understanding. By "clutch/gearbox", I include master and slave cylinders.. Car is UK RHD A-H3000 MkII BT7. Has marginally lightened flywheel. Centre shift. Clutch plate is about 18 months old. Not gone long distance nor been thrashed around. Noise is not related to engine speed. I did some tests in my backyard.. I made a few notes:- Reverse out into backyard...no problems. Back and forward in first and reverse about 5 times then the noise starts in both gears. It is a harsh rubbing/grating noise, accompanied by a vibration which I can feel in clutch foot. I get impression that it's down low on rhs. Can feel vibration in my clutch foot when the noise is happening. Noise happens as I lift clutch foot to engage reverse or first. (Didn't try 2nd) Noise stops once I lift foot all the way and engage gear whereupon car drives normally ie noise only happens when in process of engaging gear. There is no noise or vibration when car is in neutral. Noise does not occur every time. Most times. Now, my belief is that this may be something to do with the carbon "release bearing". Maybe not wear because it's pretty new but maybe because it's not engaging fully or it's not aligned right. I'm thinking about slave cylinder or master cylinder issues but they're pretty new as well. Can't speak for the flexible hose going to slave as I've had so much, basically overdrive, issues in that area that I can't recall the minor parts. I absolutely dread having to take the gearbox out AGAIN and am hopeful that it won't be necessary. Any ideas?? Yours hopefully, Simon -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From healey.nut at gmail.com Tue Aug 4 08:06:00 2026 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2026 16:06:00 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Noise on engaging clutch In-Reply-To: <004001dd2408$22e90de0$68bb29a0$@alexarevel.plus.com> References: <004001dd2408$22e90de0$68bb29a0$@alexarevel.plus.com> Message-ID: Simon - Your email is a little confusing - a couple quick questions: 1) Does the clutch make the noise while your foot is on the clutch? While your foot is on the clutch does it do it if the car is in gear?, or not in gear, or both? 2) are there some pinging or slapping noises one you have full let the clutch out, or does it only make noise when your are shifting? Alan On Tue, Aug 4, 2026 at 8:18?AM Simon Lachlan via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > Hi, > > I need advice regarding a new issue pertaining to my clutch/gearbox. At > least that is my understanding. By ?clutch/gearbox?, I include master and > slave cylinders?. > > Car is UK RHD A-H3000 MkII BT7. > > Has marginally lightened flywheel. > > Centre shift. > > Clutch plate is about 18 months old. Not gone long distance nor been > thrashed around. > > Noise is not related to engine speed. > > I did some tests in my backyard?? > > I made a few notes:- > > Reverse out into backyard?..no problems. > > Back and forward in first and reverse about 5 times then the noise starts > in both gears. > > It is a harsh rubbing/grating noise, accompanied by a vibration which I > can feel in clutch foot. I get impression that it?s down low on rhs. > > Can feel vibration in my clutch foot when the noise is happening. > > Noise happens as I lift clutch foot to engage reverse or first. (Didn?t > try 2nd) > > Noise stops once I lift foot all the way and engage gear whereupon car > drives normally ie noise only happens when in process of engaging gear. > > There is no noise or vibration when car is in neutral. > > Noise does not occur every time. Most times. > > Now, my belief is that this may be something to do with the carbon > ?release bearing?. Maybe not wear because it?s pretty new but maybe because > it?s not engaging fully or it?s not aligned right. I?m thinking about > slave cylinder or master cylinder issues but they?re pretty new as well. > Can?t speak for the flexible hose going to slave as I?ve had so much, > basically overdrive, issues in that area that I can?t recall the minor part > s. > > I absolutely dread having to take the gearbox out AGAIN and am hopeful > that it won?t be necessary. > > Any ideas?? > > Yours hopefully, Simon > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gradea1 at charter.net Tue Aug 4 10:29:00 2026 From: gradea1 at charter.net (Hank Leach) Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2026 16:29:00 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Noise on engaging clutch Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bspidell at comcast.net Tue Aug 4 12:13:37 2026 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2026 11:13:37 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Noise on engaging clutch In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I recall there was a bad batch of the graphite release 'bearings.' If one was badly chipped it may cause such symptoms. On 8/4/2026 9:29 AM, Hank Leach via Healeys wrote: > I'm assuming that this is the standard B&B spring clutch and not the > later diaphragm clutch found in the BJ7-8. > When you did the install 18 mo. ago did you by any chance hang up on > the PP upon offering up the unit to the pilot beating. In other words, > did? you have difficulty moving the trans exactly centered forward and > home without any resistance? Hitting something? > The center yoke of the pressure plate is suspended and if you hit one > of the hangers it can later manifest into a misalignment and noise at > the TO bearing. Feeling it in the pedal is a clue. If it was a later > diaphragm clutch and has a broken finger you definitely get pedal > vibration. > One other "test"... upon driving; is the noise (vibration) better or > worse when in OD or direct? > Probably should not drive it much until issue is found but I'm afraid > to say it may involve R & R of the unit.Hank > > -------------------- > > From: "Alan Seigrist" > To: > Cc: > Sent: August 4, 2026 at 7:24 AM PDT > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Noise on engaging clutch > Simon - > Your email is a little confusing - a couple quick questions: > > 1) Does the clutch make the noise while your foot is on the clutch?? > While your foot is on the clutch does it do it if the car is in gear?, > or notin gear, or both? > 2) are there some pinging or slapping noises one you have full let the > clutch out, or does it only make noise when your are shifting? > Alan > On Tue, Aug 4, 2026 at 8:18?AM Simon Lachlan via Healeys > wrote: > > Hi, > > I need advice regarding a new issue pertaining to my > clutch/gearbox. At least that is my understanding. By > ?clutch/gearbox?, I include master and slave cylinders?. > > Car is UK RHD A-H3000 MkII BT7. > > Has marginally lightened flywheel. > > Centre shift. > > Clutch plate is about 18 months old. Not gone long distance nor > been thrashed around. > > Noise is not related to engine speed. > > I did some tests in my backyard?? > > I made a few notes:- > > Reverse out into backyard?..no problems. > > Back and forward in first and reverse about 5 times then the noise > starts in both gears. > > It is a harsh rubbing/grating noise, accompanied by a vibration > which I can feel in clutch foot. I get impression that it?s down > low on rhs. > > Can feel vibration in my clutch foot when the noise is happening. > > Noise happens as I lift clutch foot to engage reverse or first. > (Didn?t try 2^nd ) > > Noise stops once I lift foot all the way and engage gear whereupon > car drives normally ie noise only happens when in process of > engaging gear. > > There is no noise or vibration when car is in neutral. > > Noise does not occur every time. Most times. > > Now, my belief is that this may be something to do with the carbon > ?release bearing?. Maybe not wear because it?s pretty new but > maybe because it?s not engaging fully or it?s not aligned right. > I?m thinking about slave cylinder or master cylinder issues but > they?re pretty new as well. Can?t speak for the flexible hose > going to slave as I?ve had so much, basically overdrive, issues in > that area that I can?t recall the minor parts. > > I absolutely dread having to take the gearbox out AGAIN and am > hopeful that it won?t be necessary. > > Any ideas?? > > Yours hopefully, Simon > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation? $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Nethttp://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive:http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage:http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bspidell at comcast.net > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com Tue Aug 4 13:20:31 2026 From: simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com (simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com) Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2026 20:20:31 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Noise on engaging clutch In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000001dd2446$51702e80$f4508b80$@alexarevel.plus.com> Yes, I?ve heard that. I looked into my files and that bearing is about 18 months old. Just long enough for a dud to play up?.? Simon From: Healeys On Behalf Of Bob Spidell via Healeys Sent: 04 August 2026 19:14 To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Noise on engaging clutch I recall there was a bad batch of the graphite release 'bearings.' If one was badly chipped it may cause such symptoms. On 8/4/2026 9:29 AM, Hank Leach via Healeys wrote: I'm assuming that this is the standard B&B spring clutch and not the later diaphragm clutch found in the BJ7-8. When you did the install 18 mo. ago did you by any chance hang up on the PP upon offering up the unit to the pilot beating. In other words, did you have difficulty moving the trans exactly centered forward and home without any resistance? Hitting something? The center yoke of the pressure plate is suspended and if you hit one of the hangers it can later manifest into a misalignment and noise at the TO bearing. Feeling it in the pedal is a clue. If it was a later diaphragm clutch and has a broken finger you definitely get pedal vibration. One other "test"... upon driving; is the noise (vibration) better or worse when in OD or direct? Probably should not drive it much until issue is found but I'm afraid to say it may involve R & R of the unit.Hank -------------------- From: "Alan Seigrist" To: Cc: Sent: August 4, 2026 at 7:24 AM PDT Subject: Re: [Healeys] Noise on engaging clutch Simon - Your email is a little confusing - a couple quick questions: 1) Does the clutch make the noise while your foot is on the clutch? While your foot is on the clutch does it do it if the car is in gear?, or not in gear, or both? 2) are there some pinging or slapping noises one you have full let the clutch out, or does it only make noise when your are shifting? Alan On Tue, Aug 4, 2026 at 8:18?AM Simon Lachlan via Healeys > wrote: Hi, I need advice regarding a new issue pertaining to my clutch/gearbox. At least that is my understanding. By ?clutch/gearbox?, I include master and slave cylinders?. Car is UK RHD A-H3000 MkII BT7. Has marginally lightened flywheel. Centre shift. Clutch plate is about 18 months old. Not gone long distance nor been thrashed around. Noise is not related to engine speed. I did some tests in my backyard?? I made a few notes:- Reverse out into backyard?..no problems. Back and forward in first and reverse about 5 times then the noise starts in both gears. It is a harsh rubbing/grating noise, accompanied by a vibration which I can feel in clutch foot. I get impression that it?s down low on rhs. Can feel vibration in my clutch foot when the noise is happening. Noise happens as I lift clutch foot to engage reverse or first. (Didn?t try 2nd) Noise stops once I lift foot all the way and engage gear whereupon car drives normally ie noise only happens when in process of engaging gear. There is no noise or vibration when car is in neutral. Noise does not occur every time. Most times. Now, my belief is that this may be something to do with the carbon ?release bearing?. Maybe not wear because it?s pretty new but maybe because it?s not engaging fully or it?s not aligned right. I?m thinking about slave cylinder or master cylinder issues but they?re pretty new as well. Can?t speak for the flexible hose going to slave as I?ve had so much, basically overdrive, issues in that area that I can?t recall the minor parts. I absolutely dread having to take the gearbox out AGAIN and am hopeful that it won?t be necessary. Any ideas?? Yours hopefully, Simon _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bspidell at comcast.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com Tue Aug 4 13:21:50 2026 From: simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com (simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com) Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2026 20:21:50 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Noise on engaging clutch In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000501dd2446$8049be10$80dd3a30$@alexarevel.plus.com> Yes, I?ve heard that. I looked into my files and that bearing is about 18 months old. Just long enough for a dud to play up?.? Simon From: Healeys On Behalf Of Bob Spidell via Healeys Sent: 04 August 2026 19:14 To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Noise on engaging clutch I recall there was a bad batch of the graphite release 'bearings.' If one was badly chipped it may cause such symptoms. On 8/4/2026 9:29 AM, Hank Leach via Healeys wrote: I'm assuming that this is the standard B&B spring clutch and not the later diaphragm clutch found in the BJ7-8. When you did the install 18 mo. ago did you by any chance hang up on the PP upon offering up the unit to the pilot beating. In other words, did you have difficulty moving the trans exactly centered forward and home without any resistance? Hitting something? The center yoke of the pressure plate is suspended and if you hit one of the hangers it can later manifest into a misalignment and noise at the TO bearing. Feeling it in the pedal is a clue. If it was a later diaphragm clutch and has a broken finger you definitely get pedal vibration. One other "test"... upon driving; is the noise (vibration) better or worse when in OD or direct? Probably should not drive it much until issue is found but I'm afraid to say it may involve R & R of the unit.Hank -------------------- From: "Alan Seigrist" To: Cc: Sent: August 4, 2026 at 7:24 AM PDT Subject: Re: [Healeys] Noise on engaging clutch Simon - Your email is a little confusing - a couple quick questions: 1) Does the clutch make the noise while your foot is on the clutch? While your foot is on the clutch does it do it if the car is in gear?, or not in gear, or both? 2) are there some pinging or slapping noises one you have full let the clutch out, or does it only make noise when your are shifting? Alan On Tue, Aug 4, 2026 at 8:18?AM Simon Lachlan via Healeys > wrote: Hi, I need advice regarding a new issue pertaining to my clutch/gearbox. At least that is my understanding. By ?clutch/gearbox?, I include master and slave cylinders?. Car is UK RHD A-H3000 MkII BT7. Has marginally lightened flywheel. Centre shift. Clutch plate is about 18 months old. Not gone long distance nor been thrashed around. Noise is not related to engine speed. I did some tests in my backyard?? I made a few notes:- Reverse out into backyard?..no problems. Back and forward in first and reverse about 5 times then the noise starts in both gears. It is a harsh rubbing/grating noise, accompanied by a vibration which I can feel in clutch foot. I get impression that it?s down low on rhs. Can feel vibration in my clutch foot when the noise is happening. Noise happens as I lift clutch foot to engage reverse or first. (Didn?t try 2nd) Noise stops once I lift foot all the way and engage gear whereupon car drives normally ie noise only happens when in process of engaging gear. There is no noise or vibration when car is in neutral. Noise does not occur every time. Most times. Now, my belief is that this may be something to do with the carbon ?release bearing?. Maybe not wear because it?s pretty new but maybe because it?s not engaging fully or it?s not aligned right. I?m thinking about slave cylinder or master cylinder issues but they?re pretty new as well. Can?t speak for the flexible hose going to slave as I?ve had so much, basically overdrive, issues in that area that I can?t recall the minor parts. I absolutely dread having to take the gearbox out AGAIN and am hopeful that it won?t be necessary. Any ideas?? Yours hopefully, Simon _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bspidell at comcast.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net Tue Aug 4 19:42:50 2026 From: jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net (JSARCH) Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2026 18:42:50 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Noise on engaging clutch In-Reply-To: <000001dd2446$51702e80$f4508b80$@alexarevel.plus.com> References: <000001dd2446$51702e80$f4508b80$@alexarevel.plus.com> Message-ID: <010e01dd247b$bb22cba0$316862e0$@sbcglobal.net> After installing a Denis Welch Ball Race Release Bearing, I would never go back to using a graphite release bearing which is essentially designed to wear-out unlike the DW item. https://www.bighealey.co.uk/austin-healey/clutch-1 John From: Healeys On Behalf Of Simon Lachlan via Healeys Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2026 12:21 PM To: 'Bob Spidell' ; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Noise on engaging clutch Yes, I?ve heard that. I looked into my files and that bearing is about 18 months old. Just long enough for a dud to play up?.? Simon From: Healeys > On Behalf Of Bob Spidell via Healeys Sent: 04 August 2026 19:14 To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Noise on engaging clutch I recall there was a bad batch of the graphite release 'bearings.' If one was badly chipped it may cause such symptoms. On 8/4/2026 9:29 AM, Hank Leach via Healeys wrote: I'm assuming that this is the standard B&B spring clutch and not the later diaphragm clutch found in the BJ7-8. When you did the install 18 mo. ago did you by any chance hang up on the PP upon offering up the unit to the pilot beating. In other words, did you have difficulty moving the trans exactly centered forward and home without any resistance? Hitting something? The center yoke of the pressure plate is suspended and if you hit one of the hangers it can later manifest into a misalignment and noise at the TO bearing. Feeling it in the pedal is a clue. If it was a later diaphragm clutch and has a broken finger you definitely get pedal vibration. One other "test"... upon driving; is the noise (vibration) better or worse when in OD or direct? Probably should not drive it much until issue is found but I'm afraid to say it may involve R & R of the unit.Hank -------------------- From: "Alan Seigrist" To: Cc: Sent: August 4, 2026 at 7:24 AM PDT Subject: Re: [Healeys] Noise on engaging clutch Simon - Your email is a little confusing - a couple quick questions: 1) Does the clutch make the noise while your foot is on the clutch? While your foot is on the clutch does it do it if the car is in gear?, or not in gear, or both? 2) are there some pinging or slapping noises one you have full let the clutch out, or does it only make noise when your are shifting? Alan On Tue, Aug 4, 2026 at 8:18?AM Simon Lachlan via Healeys > wrote: Hi, I need advice regarding a new issue pertaining to my clutch/gearbox. At least that is my understanding. By ?clutch/gearbox?, I include master and slave cylinders?. Car is UK RHD A-H3000 MkII BT7. Has marginally lightened flywheel. Centre shift. Clutch plate is about 18 months old. Not gone long distance nor been thrashed around. Noise is not related to engine speed. I did some tests in my backyard?? I made a few notes:- Reverse out into backyard?..no problems. Back and forward in first and reverse about 5 times then the noise starts in both gears. It is a harsh rubbing/grating noise, accompanied by a vibration which I can feel in clutch foot. I get impression that it?s down low on rhs. Can feel vibration in my clutch foot when the noise is happening. Noise happens as I lift clutch foot to engage reverse or first. (Didn?t try 2nd) Noise stops once I lift foot all the way and engage gear whereupon car drives normally ie noise only happens when in process of engaging gear. There is no noise or vibration when car is in neutral. Noise does not occur every time. Most times. Now, my belief is that this may be something to do with the carbon ?release bearing?. Maybe not wear because it?s pretty new but maybe because it?s not engaging fully or it?s not aligned right. I?m thinking about slave cylinder or master cylinder issues but they?re pretty new as well. Can?t speak for the flexible hose going to slave as I?ve had so much, basically overdrive, issues in that area that I can?t recall the minor parts. I absolutely dread having to take the gearbox out AGAIN and am hopeful that it won?t be necessary. Any ideas?? Yours hopefully, Simon _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bspidell at comcast.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: