From joemulqueen at yahoo.com  Mon Sep  1 01:08:47 2025
From: joemulqueen at yahoo.com (joe mulqueen)
Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2025 07:08:47 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Healeys] BT7 Restoration Restart after 20 Yrs
References: <469585384.441723.1756710527220.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <469585384.441723.1756710527220@mail.yahoo.com>

Hello All, I'm a 20 year lurker, with thousands of unread digest emails because of marriage, kids, and other life issues (ha ha....I think it was worth it!)? Things got so bad I almost forgot that I had a BT7 left in storage in Southern CA, while I had been living in Northern CA? ?The car was a wreck when I got it, and it needed alot of structural and body repair.? I worked on it up to a refreshed rolling chassis status before putting it away.? But now today it's at a paint shop in Los Angeles, with a guy that has done 9 other Healeys before mine.? I'm jazzed I got a time slot with him.
There are some issues though.? I live 350 miles away up in Santa Clara (Northern CA) so can only get down there every few wks...but I do have a Healey friend who knows the guy and is checking in and taking pics.? Also decided I will install the engine after the paint job...and after I bring the car up North...I wrangled over these logistics along time.?When the rough repairs were done 25 yrs ago, all body parts were stripped, fixed, and check fitted.? The current body/paint guy is tyding up the shrouds and will paint all under surfaces, then hang for outer finish and paint.? When done, I will own the final fit and even the final fit of the shrouds.? I'm planning to install the engine and ducting with the painted shroud lifted off the car.? That's my assumption...Is that possible if careful?
Also, any referals for a engine machine shop preferably in Northern CA?? I have the engine in my garage all stripped down..Regards,Joe MSanta Clara60 BT7
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://autox.team.net/pipermail/healeys/attachments/20250901/6027feed/attachment.htm>

From pdzwig at summaventures.com  Mon Sep  1 10:00:26 2025
From: pdzwig at summaventures.com (Peter Dzwig)
Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2025 17:00:26 +0100
Subject: [Healeys] Tri-Carb
In-Reply-To: <OSQPR01MB64307CED1BC87A989A1870DF8C2EA@OSQPR01MB6430.apcprd01.prod.exchangelabs.com>
References: <211e59bb-9402-4633-9e5c-c4f7a7c47db5@comcast.net>
 <OSQPR01MB64307CED1BC87A989A1870DF8C2EA@OSQPR01MB6430.apcprd01.prod.exchangelabs.com>
Message-ID: <987b2983-1956-40ba-942c-eea06bbb386c@summaventures.com>

FWIW putting tri-carbs on Healeys was quite frequently done outside of 
immediate works cars.

The works did it on occasion as an upgrade. For example, they upgraded 
PMO 203 (BN6) to tri-carb for Bobby Parkes to use as a privateer rally 
car when he acquired it in 1960. It was, of course, RHD.

There may well be a few more that were done by the works for other 
privateers that I am unaware of. Does anybody know of any others 
upgraded by the works that can be supported documents-wise? That would 
be a fascinating discussion.

If I remember right it was also a commercially available upgrade in 
period. I think Ken Rudd may have offered it, for one.

Best regards to all,

Peter

On 09/08/2025 01:35, Patrick and Caroline Quinn wrote:
> G'day Bob
> 
> Mk2 BN7s with a centre shift gearbox were far more common than 64. There were 141 made, of which 12 were RHD and 129 LHD. Five of the RHD cars didn't leave Abingdon as they became Works Rally 3000s.
> 
> Hoo Roo
> 
> Patrick Quinn
> Blue Mountains, Australia
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Bob Spidell via Healeys
> Sent: Saturday, 9 August 2025 3:16 AM
> To: Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net>
> Subject: [Healeys] Tri-Carb
> 
> I stumbled on this on my morning perusal of the web. I own a BN2/100M and a BJ8, and always thought that a tri-carb, center-shift roadster would be a great addition to my 'collection'--given that a 100S is way out of my pay grade--but, at this point just keeping my two Healeys maintained and driven is all I can handle. IIRC, there were only 64 of these cars built with 3 carbs and a center-shift gearbox. Not shown are the wheels but I believe that a few came with steel disk wheels, and not having to maintain three sets of wires would be a benefit IMO.
> 
> Please note I have no financial interest in this car, don't know the owner, and know nothing beyond what's on the website, but it sure looks like a really nice car (possibly with a recent resto). Benecia is in the north SF Bay Area.
> 
> https://www.ahexp.com/registry/1962-Austin-Healey-3000-BN7-BN716212.65823/
> 
> Bob
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation  $12.75
> 
> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys
> 
> Healeys at autox.team.net
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys
> 
> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/p.cquinn at outlook.com
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html
> Suggested annual donation  $12.75
> 
> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys
> 
> Healeys at autox.team.net
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys
> 
> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/pdzwig at summaventures.com
> 

-- 
Dr. Peter Dzwig


From jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net  Mon Sep  1 11:16:00 2025
From: jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net (JSARCH)
Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2025 10:16:00 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] BT7 Restoration Restart after 20 Yrs
In-Reply-To: <469585384.441723.1756710527220@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <469585384.441723.1756710527220.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <469585384.441723.1756710527220@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <00a801dc1b64$177586d0$46609470$@sbcglobal.net>

Hey Joe,

 

I remember you and recall some posts. The shop that painted my car sprayed the chassis and frame and hung the shrouds and other body panels to paint both sides. You can install the parts as described except for the fresh air hose, blower motor hoses and radiator. If you install them, you will not be able to install the fender bolts and the three screws that attach the shroud to the frame at the front of the bonnet. I have attached a photo of the rear shroud that shows the 3 rivet locations; it was painted off the car. The other photo shows the front shroud that is just held on with zip ties temporarily. The head-on picture is with the shroud attached to the chassis. BTW, I had fitted the radiator prior to attaching the shroud but removed it because access is better without it in place for the wiring.

 

A&M Motor Supply boiled my block and did the machine work like boring for oversized pistons, line boring for the cam bearings, valve grinding and surfacing the head and block. I fitted and aftermarket crank seal myself.

 

Glad you are driving down the path to enjoy your healey.

 

John Spaur

?62 BT7

 

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of joe mulqueen via Healeys
Sent: Monday, September 1, 2025 12:09 AM
To: healeys at autox.team.net
Subject: [Healeys] BT7 Restoration Restart after 20 Yrs

 

Hello All, I'm a 20 year lurker, with thousands of unread digest emails because of marriage, kids, and other life issues (ha ha....I think it was worth it!)  Things got so bad I almost forgot that I had a BT7 left in storage in Southern CA, while I had been living in Northern CA   The car was a wreck when I got it, and it needed alot of structural and body repair.  I worked on it up to a refreshed rolling chassis status before putting it away.  But now today it's at a paint shop in Los Angeles, with a guy that has done 9 other Healeys before mine.  I'm jazzed I got a time slot with him.

 

There are some issues though.  I live 350 miles away up in Santa Clara (Northern CA) so can only get down there every few wks...but I do have a Healey friend who knows the guy and is checking in and taking pics.  Also decided I will install the engine after the paint job...and after I bring the car up North...I wrangled over these logistics along time.

 

When the rough repairs were done 25 yrs ago, all body parts were stripped, fixed, and check fitted.  The current body/paint guy is tyding up the shrouds and will paint all under surfaces, then hang for outer finish and paint.  When done, I will own the final fit and even the final fit of the shrouds.  I'm planning to install the engine and ducting with the painted shroud lifted off the car.  That's my assumption...Is that possible if careful?

 

Also, any referals for a engine machine shop preferably in Northern CA?  I have the engine in my garage all stripped down..

Regards,

Joe M

Santa Clara

60 BT7

 

-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://autox.team.net/pipermail/healeys/attachments/20250901/0dfd3c1e/attachment.htm>
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: 000_0277 (2023_10_29 01_57_04 UTC).jpg
Type: image/jpeg
Size: 863437 bytes
Desc: not available
URL: <http://autox.team.net/pipermail/healeys/attachments/20250901/0dfd3c1e/attachment.jpg>
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: 000_0278 (2023_10_29 01_57_04 UTC).jpg
Type: image/jpeg
Size: 869662 bytes
Desc: not available
URL: <http://autox.team.net/pipermail/healeys/attachments/20250901/0dfd3c1e/attachment-0001.jpg>
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: 100_2037 (2023_10_29 01_57_04 UTC).jpg
Type: image/jpeg
Size: 856611 bytes
Desc: not available
URL: <http://autox.team.net/pipermail/healeys/attachments/20250901/0dfd3c1e/attachment-0002.jpg>

From alfuller194 at gmail.com  Mon Sep  1 13:36:55 2025
From: alfuller194 at gmail.com (Al Fuller)
Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2025 12:36:55 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] BT7 Restoration Restart after 20 Yrs
In-Reply-To: <469585384.441723.1756710527220@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <469585384.441723.1756710527220.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <469585384.441723.1756710527220@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CADkpZwHi-pVVWjLXKKq-GTbkWD8keWvR6Nc7HGHzuaU7jEZYOQ@mail.gmail.com>

Joe, good luck on your project - it sounds like you have made a good start.
One thing does come to mind based on what happened when I built my 'basket
case' BJ-8.

The body guy insisted the doors and fenders needed substantial work, but
the frame builder said all the panels were fitted and tuned before it left
there (years prior).

It turned out there were slight differences in the hinges. The frame
builder had stamped them with positions, but the car arrived at the body
shop with scrambled hinges. My takeaway is to ensure it all fits before
moving forward.

Good luck and enjoy the journey!

________________
Sent from my phone
Best Regards,
Al Fuller

On Mon, Sep 1, 2025, 12:18?AM joe mulqueen via Healeys <
healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:

> Hello All, I'm a 20 year lurker, with thousands of unread digest emails
> because of marriage, kids, and other life issues (ha ha....I think it was
> worth it!)  Things got so bad I almost forgot that I had a BT7 left in
> storage in Southern CA, while I had been living in Northern CA   The car
> was a wreck when I got it, and it needed alot of structural and body
> repair.  I worked on it up to a refreshed rolling chassis status before
> putting it away.  But now today it's at a paint shop in Los Angeles, with a
> guy that has done 9 other Healeys before mine.  I'm jazzed I got a time
> slot with him.
>
> There are some issues though.  I live 350 miles away up in Santa Clara
> (Northern CA) so can only get down there every few wks...but I do have a
> Healey friend who knows the guy and is checking in and taking pics.  Also
> decided I will install the engine after the paint job...and after I bring
> the car up North...I wrangled over these logistics along time.
>
> When the rough repairs were done 25 yrs ago, all body parts were stripped,
> fixed, and check fitted.  The current body/paint guy is tyding up the
> shrouds and will paint all under surfaces, then hang for outer finish and
> paint.  When done, I will own the final fit and even the final fit of the
> shrouds.  I'm planning to install the engine and ducting with the painted
> shroud lifted off the car.  That's my assumption...Is that possible if
> careful?
>
> Also, any referals for a engine machine shop preferably in Northern CA?  I
> have the engine in my garage all stripped down..
> Regards,
> Joe M
> Santa Clara
> 60 BT7
>
> _______________________________________________
> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html
> Suggested annual donation  $12.75
>
> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys
> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys
>
> Healeys at autox.team.net
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys
>
> Unsubscribe/Manage:
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/alfuller194 at gmail.com
>
>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://autox.team.net/pipermail/healeys/attachments/20250901/fad49d42/attachment.htm>

From satkinson1974 at gmail.com  Mon Sep  1 14:08:42 2025
From: satkinson1974 at gmail.com (Simon Atkinson)
Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2025 16:08:42 -0400
Subject: [Healeys] BT7 Restoration Restart after 20 Yrs
In-Reply-To: <CADkpZwHi-pVVWjLXKKq-GTbkWD8keWvR6Nc7HGHzuaU7jEZYOQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADkpZwHi-pVVWjLXKKq-GTbkWD8keWvR6Nc7HGHzuaU7jEZYOQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <0C04DCA2-B0D9-4C1C-8E23-1E5CC077A160@gmail.com>

An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://autox.team.net/pipermail/healeys/attachments/20250901/400e1970/attachment.htm>

From jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net  Mon Sep  1 14:53:30 2025
From: jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net (JSARCH)
Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2025 13:53:30 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] BT7 Restoration Restart after 20 Yrs
In-Reply-To: <CADkpZwHi-pVVWjLXKKq-GTbkWD8keWvR6Nc7HGHzuaU7jEZYOQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <469585384.441723.1756710527220.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <469585384.441723.1756710527220@mail.yahoo.com>
 <CADkpZwHi-pVVWjLXKKq-GTbkWD8keWvR6Nc7HGHzuaU7jEZYOQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <010201dc1b82$7a05ef60$6e11ce20$@sbcglobal.net>

Joe, good advice from Al. When I turned my 1962 BT7 over to the shop for body work and painting the shrouds, boot lid, bonnet, wings and doors were attached to ensure fit before painting. 

 

Cheers,

John Spaur

 

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Al Fuller
Sent: Monday, September 1, 2025 12:37 PM
To: joe mulqueen <joemulqueen at yahoo.com>
Cc: AH Mail List <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] BT7 Restoration Restart after 20 Yrs

 

Joe, good luck on your project - it sounds like you have made a good start. One thing does come to mind based on what happened when I built my 'basket case' BJ-8. 

 

The body guy insisted the doors and fenders needed substantial work, but the frame builder said all the panels were fitted and tuned before it left there (years prior). 

 

It turned out there were slight differences in the hinges. The frame builder had stamped them with positions, but the car arrived at the body shop with scrambled hinges. My takeaway is to ensure it all fits before moving forward.

 

Good luck and enjoy the journey!

 

________________
Sent from my phone 
Best Regards,
Al Fuller

 

On Mon, Sep 1, 2025, 12:18?AM joe mulqueen via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> > wrote:

Hello All, I'm a 20 year lurker, with thousands of unread digest emails because of marriage, kids, and other life issues (ha ha....I think it was worth it!)  Things got so bad I almost forgot that I had a BT7 left in storage in Southern CA, while I had been living in Northern CA   The car was a wreck when I got it, and it needed alot of structural and body repair.  I worked on it up to a refreshed rolling chassis status before putting it away.  But now today it's at a paint shop in Los Angeles, with a guy that has done 9 other Healeys before mine.  I'm jazzed I got a time slot with him.

 

There are some issues though.  I live 350 miles away up in Santa Clara (Northern CA) so can only get down there every few wks...but I do have a Healey friend who knows the guy and is checking in and taking pics.  Also decided I will install the engine after the paint job...and after I bring the car up North...I wrangled over these logistics along time.

 

When the rough repairs were done 25 yrs ago, all body parts were stripped, fixed, and check fitted.  The current body/paint guy is tyding up the shrouds and will paint all under surfaces, then hang for outer finish and paint.  When done, I will own the final fit and even the final fit of the shrouds.  I'm planning to install the engine and ducting with the painted shroud lifted off the car.  That's my assumption...Is that possible if careful?

 

Also, any referals for a engine machine shop preferably in Northern CA?  I have the engine in my garage all stripped down..

Regards,

Joe M

Santa Clara

60 BT7

 

_______________________________________________
Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html
Suggested annual donation  $12.75

Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys

Healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:Healeys at autox.team.net> 
http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys

Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/alfuller194 at gmail.com

-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://autox.team.net/pipermail/healeys/attachments/20250901/f915174c/attachment.htm>

From ryan at jimryan.com  Tue Sep  2 08:43:02 2025
From: ryan at jimryan.com (Jim Ryan)
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2025 10:43:02 -0400
Subject: [Healeys] BT7 Restoration Restart after 20 Yrs
In-Reply-To: <010201dc1b82$7a05ef60$6e11ce20$@sbcglobal.net>
References: <469585384.441723.1756710527220.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <469585384.441723.1756710527220@mail.yahoo.com>
 <CADkpZwHi-pVVWjLXKKq-GTbkWD8keWvR6Nc7HGHzuaU7jEZYOQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <010201dc1b82$7a05ef60$6e11ce20$@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <CAEajuYx4=bY5S+ny7J+5=X73XahBa5x=36iVkjTi2qLCz31cpQ@mail.gmail.com>

I had a front end mishap when I first got my BJ7 in 74.  I found a
replacement shroud in perfect condition and gave it to him in lieu of
trying to straighten out the old one.

Well, some months later I went to pick up the car and it wasn't until I got
home that I noticed a very slight difference in the spaces between the
right and left doors and the shroud. After looking closely at the shroud
from the inside I realized they had cut the right half off of each
shroud and welded the new to the old and the  measurements were off.

The place was such a nightmare to deal with I just said the hell with it
and kept it that way.  I'm not a body guy (obviously) but what the hell
were they thinking?

Probably not relevant to this thread but thought I'd share it.

On Mon, Sep 1, 2025 at 4:59?PM JSARCH <jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> Joe, good advice from Al. When I turned my 1962 BT7 over to the shop for
> body work and painting the shrouds, boot lid, bonnet, wings and doors were
> attached to ensure fit before painting.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> John Spaur
>
>
>
> *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Al Fuller
> *Sent:* Monday, September 1, 2025 12:37 PM
> *To:* joe mulqueen <joemulqueen at yahoo.com>
> *Cc:* AH Mail List <healeys at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] BT7 Restoration Restart after 20 Yrs
>
>
>
> Joe, good luck on your project - it sounds like you have made a good
> start. One thing does come to mind based on what happened when I built my
> 'basket case' BJ-8.
>
>
>
> The body guy insisted the doors and fenders needed substantial work, but
> the frame builder said all the panels were fitted and tuned before it left
> there (years prior).
>
>
>
> It turned out there were slight differences in the hinges. The frame
> builder had stamped them with positions, but the car arrived at the body
> shop with scrambled hinges. My takeaway is to ensure it all fits before
> moving forward.
>
>
>
> Good luck and enjoy the journey!
>
>
>
> ________________
> Sent from my phone
> Best Regards,
> Al Fuller
>
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 1, 2025, 12:18?AM joe mulqueen via Healeys <
> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> Hello All, I'm a 20 year lurker, with thousands of unread digest emails
> because of marriage, kids, and other life issues (ha ha....I think it was
> worth it!)  Things got so bad I almost forgot that I had a BT7 left in
> storage in Southern CA, while I had been living in Northern CA   The car
> was a wreck when I got it, and it needed alot of structural and body
> repair.  I worked on it up to a refreshed rolling chassis status before
> putting it away.  But now today it's at a paint shop in Los Angeles, with a
> guy that has done 9 other Healeys before mine.  I'm jazzed I got a time
> slot with him.
>
>
>
> There are some issues though.  I live 350 miles away up in Santa Clara
> (Northern CA) so can only get down there every few wks...but I do have a
> Healey friend who knows the guy and is checking in and taking pics.  Also
> decided I will install the engine after the paint job...and after I bring
> the car up North...I wrangled over these logistics along time.
>
>
>
> When the rough repairs were done 25 yrs ago, all body parts were stripped,
> fixed, and check fitted.  The current body/paint guy is tyding up the
> shrouds and will paint all under surfaces, then hang for outer finish and
> paint.  When done, I will own the final fit and even the final fit of the
> shrouds.  I'm planning to install the engine and ducting with the painted
> shroud lifted off the car.  That's my assumption...Is that possible if
> careful?
>
>
>
> Also, any referals for a engine machine shop preferably in Northern CA?  I
> have the engine in my garage all stripped down..
>
> Regards,
>
> Joe M
>
> Santa Clara
>
> 60 BT7
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html
> Suggested annual donation  $12.75
>
> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys
> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys
>
> Healeys at autox.team.net
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys
>
> Unsubscribe/Manage:
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/alfuller194 at gmail.com
>
> _______________________________________________
> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html
> Suggested annual donation  $12.75
>
> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys
> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys
>
> Healeys at autox.team.net
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys
>
> Unsubscribe/Manage:
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ryan at jimryan.com
>
>

-- 

Jim Ryan

????
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://autox.team.net/pipermail/healeys/attachments/20250902/626916d9/attachment.htm>

From joemulqueen at yahoo.com  Tue Sep  2 18:14:42 2025
From: joemulqueen at yahoo.com (joe mulqueen)
Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2025 00:14:42 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Healeys] BT7 Restoration Restart after 20 Yrs
References: <118666452.827849.1756858482352.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <118666452.827849.1756858482352@mail.yahoo.com>

Thanks for the tips.? My car had been in a RF wreck many years ago and was probably left for dead before I came around.
In addition to replacing rusty floors, the structure needed a RH frame rail, inner fender and shock tower rework, and new front cross members.? The fenders and front shrouds came from different cars so the panels definitiely needed to be, cut, and re-sized. I also needed different bonnet and rear lid that were good enough to fit.? ?All that rough work took almost a year to complete and it was alot of money.? When done, we checked the gaps with some sand bags in to simulated some drivetrain weight in the middle. I've heard mixed stories if that is needed..? Anyway, with the underside repairs, I suspect it will never be a top value car but still want it to be a nice driver.? Expect to keep it a long time....and sell my '56 MGA (that I've also had a long time).The paint guy with 9 cars under his belt thinks it will be ok but yeah, I own final fit after I get the engine in.? I've fit cars before but not under these conditions!Joe MSanta Clara, CAps.? still looking for recent machine shop reccomendations prefer in Northern CA.
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://autox.team.net/pipermail/healeys/attachments/20250903/df6146c1/attachment.htm>

From healeyguy at aol.com  Fri Sep  5 05:59:59 2025
From: healeyguy at aol.com (Perry Small)
Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2025 07:59:59 -0400
Subject: [Healeys] Engine block plugs
References: <5CCA78F1-832C-485B-8B8A-4AE9738AE0AC.ref@aol.com>
Message-ID: <5CCA78F1-832C-485B-8B8A-4AE9738AE0AC@aol.com>

Listers. Any advice on this info request?  
Recently had a BJ8 engine block hot tanked and cleaned.  Unfortunately, Machine shop drilled out all the small brass oil and water gallery plugs.  Do you know of a source for those or info on the dimensions to fabricate them?
 End copy

Perry
Sent from my iPhone

From bspidell at comcast.net  Fri Sep  5 17:55:24 2025
From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell)
Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2025 16:55:24 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] Engine block plugs
In-Reply-To: <5CCA78F1-832C-485B-8B8A-4AE9738AE0AC@aol.com>
References: <5CCA78F1-832C-485B-8B8A-4AE9738AE0AC.ref@aol.com>
 <5CCA78F1-832C-485B-8B8A-4AE9738AE0AC@aol.com>
Message-ID: <f5002fde-43c6-4c74-b938-7d097ca1ac64@comcast.net>

When I had my BJ8 engine overhauled the shop who did the work--a 
well-known local outfit--could not find properly-sized freeze/casting 
plugs, so he bought oversized metric ones and machined them to fit. He 
didn't mention the gallery plugs but, presumably, a shop could do the 
same for them.

Bob

On 9/5/2025 4:59 AM, Perry Small via Healeys wrote:
> Listers. Any advice on this info request?
> Recently had a BJ8 engine block hot tanked and cleaned.  Unfortunately, Machine shop drilled out all the small brass oil and water gallery plugs.  Do you know of a source for those or info on the dimensions to fabricate them?
>   End copy
>
> Perry
> Sent from my iPhone
>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://autox.team.net/pipermail/healeys/attachments/20250905/8c34791b/attachment.htm>

From jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net  Fri Sep  5 19:11:13 2025
From: jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net (JSARCH)
Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2025 18:11:13 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] Engine block plugs
In-Reply-To: <5CCA78F1-832C-485B-8B8A-4AE9738AE0AC@aol.com>
References: <5CCA78F1-832C-485B-8B8A-4AE9738AE0AC.ref@aol.com>
 <5CCA78F1-832C-485B-8B8A-4AE9738AE0AC@aol.com>
Message-ID: <00f101dc1ecb$2430e210$6c92a630$@sbcglobal.net>

They dissolve when the block is hot tanked. It is a common item; I am surprised the machine shop does not have them and did not reinstall them after cleaning the block.

They are core plugs, items 2 and 3 on the Moss website.

https://mossmotors.com/ahy-006-external-engine-100-6-3000

John

-----Original Message-----
From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Perry Small via Healeys
Sent: Friday, September 5, 2025 5:00 AM
To: Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Healeys] Engine block plugs

Listers. Any advice on this info request? Recently had a BJ8 engine block hot tanked and cleaned.  Unfortunately, Machine shop drilled out all the small brass oil and water gallery plugs.  Do you know of a source for those or info on the dimensions to fabricate them?
 End copy

Perry
Sent from my iPhone
_______________________________________________
Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation  $12.75

Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys

Healeys at autox.team.net
http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys

Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net



From manifold at telus.net  Fri Sep  5 20:45:19 2025
From: manifold at telus.net (Harold Manifold)
Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2025 20:45:19 -0600
Subject: [Healeys] Engine block plugs
In-Reply-To: <5CCA78F1-832C-485B-8B8A-4AE9738AE0AC@aol.com>
References: <5CCA78F1-832C-485B-8B8A-4AE9738AE0AC@aol.com>
Message-ID: <EAF5DF44-4132-4284-86E2-C73837E08967@telus.net>

Perry,

Tap all of the holes for a standard NPT plug. Use plugs that tighten flush with a hex key. All of those plugs should have been removed for a more thorough cleaning.

Regards,
Harold

> On Sep 5, 2025, at 4:31?PM, Perry Small via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?Listers. Any advice on this info request?  
> Recently had a BJ8 engine block hot tanked and cleaned.  Unfortunately, Machine shop drilled out all the small brass oil and water gallery plugs.  Do you know of a source for those or info on the dimensions to fabricate them?
> End copy
> 
> Perry
> Sent from my iPhone
> _______________________________________________
> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html
> Suggested annual donation  $12.75
> 
> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys
> 
> Healeys at autox.team.net
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys
> 
> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/manifold at telus.net
> 

From michael.salter at gmail.com  Fri Sep  5 20:53:31 2025
From: michael.salter at gmail.com (Michael Salter)
Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2025 02:53:31 +0000
Subject: [Healeys] Engine block plugs
In-Reply-To: <5CCA78F1-832C-485B-8B8A-4AE9738AE0AC@aol.com>
References: <5CCA78F1-832C-485B-8B8A-4AE9738AE0AC.ref@aol.com>
 <5CCA78F1-832C-485B-8B8A-4AE9738AE0AC@aol.com>
Message-ID: <SN7PR22MB376408BEE2A382BDAD5B5AA4A102A@SN7PR22MB3764.namprd22.prod.outlook.com>

I would suggest that you contact Core Plugs International.  They seem to have everything.
I buy brass ones for all my engines from them.

M


________________________________
From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of Perry Small via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, September 5, 2025 7:59:59 AM
To: Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Healeys] Engine block plugs

Listers. Any advice on this info request?
Recently had a BJ8 engine block hot tanked and cleaned.  Unfortunately, Machine shop drilled out all the small brass oil and water gallery plugs.  Do you know of a source for those or info on the dimensions to fabricate them?
 End copy

Perry
Sent from my iPhone
_______________________________________________
Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html
Suggested annual donation  $12.75

Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys

Healeys at autox.team.net
http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys

Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com

-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://autox.team.net/pipermail/healeys/attachments/20250906/cb347a62/attachment.htm>

From m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca  Fri Sep  5 22:26:56 2025
From: m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca (m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca)
Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2025 00:26:56 -0400
Subject: [Healeys] Engine block plugs
In-Reply-To: <5CCA78F1-832C-485B-8B8A-4AE9738AE0AC@aol.com>
References: <5CCA78F1-832C-485B-8B8A-4AE9738AE0AC.ref@aol.com>
 <5CCA78F1-832C-485B-8B8A-4AE9738AE0AC@aol.com>
Message-ID: <053801dc1ee6$7b4d3100$71e79300$@sympatico.ca>

Perry, when we did my BT7 motor I seem to recall initially having trouble sourcing the correct size plugs.  Then I found this company - Core Plugs International - the name says is all.   All they do are plugs and they were great to deal with.

https://coreplugs.co.uk

Cheers, Mirek

-----Original Message-----
From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Perry Small via Healeys
Sent: September 5, 2025 8:00 AM
To: Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Healeys] Engine block plugs

Listers. Any advice on this info request? Recently had a BJ8 engine block hot tanked and cleaned.  Unfortunately, Machine shop drilled out all the small brass oil and water gallery plugs.  Do you know of a source for those or info on the dimensions to fabricate them?
 End copy

Perry
Sent from my iPhone
_______________________________________________
Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation  $12.75

Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys

Healeys at autox.team.net
http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys

Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca



From per at schoerner.se  Sat Sep  6 08:27:49 2025
From: per at schoerner.se (Per Schoerner)
Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2025 16:27:49 +0200
Subject: [Healeys] Engine block plugs
In-Reply-To: <5CCA78F1-832C-485B-8B8A-4AE9738AE0AC@aol.com>
References: <5CCA78F1-832C-485B-8B8A-4AE9738AE0AC@aol.com>
Message-ID: <AF34C31E-7B87-4977-A2FD-FA9B81FE8849@schoerner.se>

And don?t forget to seal the internal oil channels in the block, I?m thinking of the channel from left to right and the one that goes up to the cylinder head. When you clean the block all the puriosite in the cast iron is exposed for the oil pressure, which is higher than the coolant pressure, and you will eventually end up with the deaded oil in water mess.
There has been kits in the market to do this from the usual suspects. Magnus Karlsson helped me with my block some 15 years ago. We screwed in threaded pipes in the oil ways.

Per


Skickat fr?n min iPhone

> 6 sep. 2025 kl. 00:34 skrev Perry Small via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net>:
> 
> ?Listers. Any advice on this info request?  
> Recently had a BJ8 engine block hot tanked and cleaned.  Unfortunately, Machine shop drilled out all the small brass oil and water gallery plugs.  Do you know of a source for those or info on the dimensions to fabricate them?
> End copy
> 
> Perry
> Sent from my iPhone
> _______________________________________________
> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html
> Suggested annual donation  $12.75
> 
> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys
> 
> Healeys at autox.team.net
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys
> 
> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/per at schoerner.se
> 

From sgerow2 at gmail.com  Sat Sep  6 12:42:22 2025
From: sgerow2 at gmail.com (Steve Gerow)
Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2025 11:42:22 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] Healeys Digest, Vol 18, Issue 144
In-Reply-To: <mailman.2.1757181602.25954.healeys@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.2.1757181602.25954.healeys@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <CA+myF4q674khqiuszkWMUL5pMGGx_QeM0m7eomw4ZDDW8piCAA@mail.gmail.com>

Here in the US in 2017 when I had my 29D engine rebuilt, I remember
sourcing the brass plugs from Dorman by size.

On Sat, Sep 6, 2025 at 11:02?AM <healeys-request at autox.team.net> wrote:

> Send Healeys mailing list submissions to
>         healeys at autox.team.net
>
> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
>         http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys
> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
>         healeys-request at autox.team.net
>
> You can reach the person managing the list at
>         healeys-owner at autox.team.net
>
> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
> than "Re: Contents of Healeys digest..."
> Today's Topics:
>
>    1. Re: Engine block plugs (Bob Spidell)
>    2. Re: Engine block plugs (JSARCH)
>    3. Re: Engine block plugs (Harold Manifold)
>    4. Re: Engine block plugs (Michael Salter)
>    5. Re: Engine block plugs (m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca)
>    6. Re: Engine block plugs (Per Schoerner)
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Bob Spidell <bspidell at comcast.net>
> To: healeys at autox.team.net
> Cc:
> Bcc:
> Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2025 16:55:24 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Engine block plugs
> When I had my BJ8 engine overhauled the shop who did the work--a
> well-known local outfit--could not find properly-sized freeze/casting
> plugs, so he bought oversized metric ones and machined them to fit. He
> didn't mention the gallery plugs but, presumably, a shop could do the same
> for them.
>
> Bob
>
> On 9/5/2025 4:59 AM, Perry Small via Healeys wrote:
>
> Listers. Any advice on this info request?
> Recently had a BJ8 engine block hot tanked and cleaned.  Unfortunately, Machine shop drilled out all the small brass oil and water gallery plugs.  Do you know of a source for those or info on the dimensions to fabricate them?
>  End copy
>
> Perry
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: JSARCH <jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net>
> To: "'Perry Small'" <healeyguy at aol.com>, "'Healeys'" <
> healeys at autox.team.net>
> Cc:
> Bcc:
> Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2025 18:11:13 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Engine block plugs
> They dissolve when the block is hot tanked. It is a common item; I am
> surprised the machine shop does not have them and did not reinstall them
> after cleaning the block.
>
> They are core plugs, items 2 and 3 on the Moss website.
>
> https://mossmotors.com/ahy-006-external-engine-100-6-3000
>
> John
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Perry Small
> via Healeys
> Sent: Friday, September 5, 2025 5:00 AM
> To: Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net>
> Subject: [Healeys] Engine block plugs
>
> Listers. Any advice on this info request? Recently had a BJ8 engine block
> hot tanked and cleaned.  Unfortunately, Machine shop drilled out all the
> small brass oil and water gallery plugs.  Do you know of a source for those
> or info on the dimensions to fabricate them?
>  End copy
>
> Perry
> Sent from my iPhone
> _______________________________________________
> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual
> donation  $12.75
>
> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys
> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys
>
> Healeys at autox.team.net
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys
>
> Unsubscribe/Manage:
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Harold Manifold <manifold at telus.net>
> To: Perry Small <healeyguy at aol.com>
> Cc: Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net>
> Bcc:
> Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2025 20:45:19 -0600
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Engine block plugs
> Perry,
>
> Tap all of the holes for a standard NPT plug. Use plugs that tighten flush
> with a hex key. All of those plugs should have been removed for a more
> thorough cleaning.
>
> Regards,
> Harold
>
> > On Sep 5, 2025, at 4:31?PM, Perry Small via Healeys <
> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
> >
> > ?Listers. Any advice on this info request?
> > Recently had a BJ8 engine block hot tanked and cleaned.  Unfortunately,
> Machine shop drilled out all the small brass oil and water gallery plugs.
> Do you know of a source for those or info on the dimensions to fabricate
> them?
> > End copy
> >
> > Perry
> > Sent from my iPhone
> > _______________________________________________
> > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html
> > Suggested annual donation  $12.75
> >
> > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys
> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys
> >
> > Healeys at autox.team.net
> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys
> >
> > Unsubscribe/Manage:
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/manifold at telus.net
> >
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Michael Salter <michael.salter at gmail.com>
> To: Perry Small <healeyguy at aol.com>, Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net>
> Cc:
> Bcc:
> Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2025 02:53:31 +0000
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Engine block plugs
> I would suggest that you contact Core Plugs International.  They seem to
> have everything.
> I buy brass ones for all my engines from them.
>
> M
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of Perry Small
> via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net>
> *Sent:* Friday, September 5, 2025 7:59:59 AM
> *To:* Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* [Healeys] Engine block plugs
>
> Listers. Any advice on this info request?
> Recently had a BJ8 engine block hot tanked and cleaned.  Unfortunately,
> Machine shop drilled out all the small brass oil and water gallery plugs.
> Do you know of a source for those or info on the dimensions to fabricate
> them?
>  End copy
>
> Perry
> Sent from my iPhone
> _______________________________________________
> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html
> Suggested annual donation  $12.75
>
> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys
> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys
>
> Healeys at autox.team.net
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys
>
> Unsubscribe/Manage:
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: <m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca>
> To: "'Perry Small'" <healeyguy at aol.com>, "'Healeys'" <
> healeys at autox.team.net>
> Cc:
> Bcc:
> Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2025 00:26:56 -0400
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Engine block plugs
> Perry, when we did my BT7 motor I seem to recall initially having trouble
> sourcing the correct size plugs.  Then I found this company - Core Plugs
> International - the name says is all.   All they do are plugs and they were
> great to deal with.
>
> https://coreplugs.co.uk
>
> Cheers, Mirek
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Perry Small
> via Healeys
> Sent: September 5, 2025 8:00 AM
> To: Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net>
> Subject: [Healeys] Engine block plugs
>
> Listers. Any advice on this info request? Recently had a BJ8 engine block
> hot tanked and cleaned.  Unfortunately, Machine shop drilled out all the
> small brass oil and water gallery plugs.  Do you know of a source for those
> or info on the dimensions to fabricate them?
>  End copy
>
> Perry
> Sent from my iPhone
> _______________________________________________
> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual
> donation  $12.75
>
> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys
> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys
>
> Healeys at autox.team.net
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys
>
> Unsubscribe/Manage:
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Per Schoerner <per at schoerner.se>
> To: Perry Small <healeyguy at aol.com>
> Cc: Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net>
> Bcc:
> Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2025 16:27:49 +0200
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Engine block plugs
> And don?t forget to seal the internal oil channels in the block, I?m
> thinking of the channel from left to right and the one that goes up to the
> cylinder head. When you clean the block all the puriosite in the cast iron
> is exposed for the oil pressure, which is higher than the coolant pressure,
> and you will eventually end up with the deaded oil in water mess.
> There has been kits in the market to do this from the usual suspects.
> Magnus Karlsson helped me with my block some 15 years ago. We screwed in
> threaded pipes in the oil ways.
>
> Per
>
>
> Skickat fr?n min iPhone
>
> > 6 sep. 2025 kl. 00:34 skrev Perry Small via Healeys <
> healeys at autox.team.net>:
> >
> > ?Listers. Any advice on this info request?
> > Recently had a BJ8 engine block hot tanked and cleaned.  Unfortunately,
> Machine shop drilled out all the small brass oil and water gallery plugs.
> Do you know of a source for those or info on the dimensions to fabricate
> them?
> > End copy
> >
> > Perry
> > Sent from my iPhone
> > _______________________________________________
> > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html
> > Suggested annual donation  $12.75
> >
> > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys
> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys
> >
> > Healeys at autox.team.net
> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys
> >
> > Unsubscribe/Manage:
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/per at schoerner.se
> >
>
> _______________________________________________
> Healeys mailing list
> Healeys at autox.team.net
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys
>
> archives:  http://autox.team.net/archive
>
>

-- 
*Steve*
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://autox.team.net/pipermail/healeys/attachments/20250906/5cfe184f/attachment.htm>

From rantal243 at yahoo.com  Mon Sep  8 13:17:05 2025
From: rantal243 at yahoo.com (Richard Antal)
Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2025 19:17:05 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Healeys] coils
References: <2048706000.1320925.1757359025830.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <2048706000.1320925.1757359025830@mail.yahoo.com>

'Greetings all,? ? My BJ8 has. a Pertronix ignition. Should it have a ballested or non-ballested lucas sport coil? I note the Moss catalogue has a Pertronix coil; does anyone have experience with this coil and is it a better choice than the Lucas coil??
Thanks to all responders.rich antal
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://autox.team.net/pipermail/healeys/attachments/20250908/1063ed8d/attachment.htm>

From engl at accesscomm.ca  Mon Sep  8 21:02:52 2025
From: engl at accesscomm.ca (Engl)
Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2025 21:02:52 -0600
Subject: [Healeys] coils
In-Reply-To: <2048706000.1320925.1757359025830@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <2048706000.1320925.1757359025830@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <5063DCB7-11AE-4608-9E4B-940555B58090@accesscomm.ca>

Rich

I have petronix with the non-ballast Lucas Sportcoil (?65 BJ8).  I think the ballast coil is used only for cars with a ballast resistor in the ignition circuit (like the ?72 Jaguar XJ6 I had). 

No experience with the Petronix coil. 

Bob England

> On Sep 8, 2025, at 2:28?PM, Richard Antal via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> 'Greetings all,
>     My BJ8 has. a Pertronix ignition. Should it have a ballested or non-ballested lucas sport coil? I note the Moss catalogue has a Pertronix coil; does anyone have experience with this coil and is it a better choice than the Lucas coil? 
> Thanks to all responders.
> rich antal
> _______________________________________________
> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html
> Suggested annual donation  $12.75
> 
> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys
> 
> Healeys at autox.team.net
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys
> 
> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/engl at accesscomm.ca
> 
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://autox.team.net/pipermail/healeys/attachments/20250908/5aad5336/attachment.htm>

From healey.nut at gmail.com  Tue Sep  9 07:45:22 2025
From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist)
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2025 09:45:22 -0400
Subject: [Healeys] coils
In-Reply-To: <2048706000.1320925.1757359025830@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <2048706000.1320925.1757359025830.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <2048706000.1320925.1757359025830@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAFBXTk+G8sW7TTO7+F1npTNVbmR-uZMm+yPJTL=ZirEY+=DC6Q@mail.gmail.com>

I have used both with no major issues withe ignitor.

On Mon, Sep 8, 2025 at 4:38?PM Richard Antal via Healeys <
healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:

> 'Greetings all,
>     My BJ8 has. a Pertronix ignition. Should it have a ballested or
> non-ballested lucas sport coil? I note the Moss catalogue has a Pertronix
> coil; does anyone have experience with this coil and is it a better choice
> than the Lucas coil?
> Thanks to all responders.
> rich antal
> _______________________________________________
> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html
> Suggested annual donation  $12.75
>
> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys
> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys
>
> Healeys at autox.team.net
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys
>
> Unsubscribe/Manage:
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com
>
>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://autox.team.net/pipermail/healeys/attachments/20250909/ee60447b/attachment.htm>

From rmarkovich at aol.com  Tue Sep  9 08:20:40 2025
From: rmarkovich at aol.com (Robert Markovich)
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2025 14:20:40 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Healeys] coils
In-Reply-To: <5063DCB7-11AE-4608-9E4B-940555B58090@accesscomm.ca>
References: <2048706000.1320925.1757359025830@mail.yahoo.com>
 <5063DCB7-11AE-4608-9E4B-940555B58090@accesscomm.ca>
Message-ID: <662296309.1631055.1757427640059@mail.yahoo.com>

I had one fail several years ago and, fortunately, had?a Lucas Sport Coil in?the trunk. I?ve heard others have had trouble with the Pertronix coil, whereas I?ve never had an issue with the Lucas coil, despite all the Prince of Darkness jokes.?Whichever you use, it should be without ballast resistor and have 3?ohms resistance?especially with a Pertronix ignition. ?And carry a spare Pertronix module!?


Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS


On Monday, September 8, 2025, 11:24 PM, Engl via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:

Rich
I have petronix with the non-ballast Lucas Sportcoil (?65 BJ8). ?I think the ballast coil is used only for cars with a ballast resistor in the ignition circuit (like the ?72 Jaguar XJ6 I had).?
No experience with the Petronix coil.?
Bob England

On Sep 8, 2025, at 2:28?PM, Richard Antal via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:



?'Greetings all,? ? My BJ8 has. a Pertronix ignition. Should it have a ballested or non-ballested lucas sport coil? I note the Moss catalogue has a Pertronix coil; does anyone have experience with this coil and is it a better choice than the Lucas coil??
Thanks to all responders.rich antal_______________________________________________
Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html
Suggested annual donation ?$12.75

Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys

Healeys at autox.team.net
http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys

Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/engl at accesscomm.ca


_______________________________________________
Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html
Suggested annual donation? $12.75

Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys

Healeys at autox.team.net
http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys

Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rmarkovich at aol.com




-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://autox.team.net/pipermail/healeys/attachments/20250909/41f144ff/attachment.htm>

From gradea1 at charter.net  Tue Sep  9 09:51:59 2025
From: gradea1 at charter.net (Hank Leach)
Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2025 15:51:59 +0000
Subject: [Healeys] coils
Message-ID: <2dd37d42-22e6-122c-208b-86d911d0c938@charter.net>

An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://autox.team.net/pipermail/healeys/attachments/20250909/4068f4f9/attachment.htm>

From warthodson at aol.com  Tue Sep  9 12:01:53 2025
From: warthodson at aol.com (warthodson at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2025 18:01:53 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Healeys] coils
In-Reply-To: <662296309.1631055.1757427640059@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <2048706000.1320925.1757359025830@mail.yahoo.com>
 <5063DCB7-11AE-4608-9E4B-940555B58090@accesscomm.ca>
 <662296309.1631055.1757427640059@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <391859604.1433336.1757440913132@mail.yahoo.com>

 I installed a Pertronix & their coil (3 ohm) when I rebuilt my engine about 15 years ago. I am probably pushing 100,000 Miles and have had no problems.Gary
    On Tuesday, September 9, 2025 at 11:05:04 AM CDT, Robert Markovich via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:   

 I had one fail several years ago and, fortunately, had?a Lucas Sport Coil in?the trunk. I?ve heard others have had trouble with the Pertronix coil, whereas I?ve never had an issue with the Lucas coil, despite all the Prince of Darkness jokes.?Whichever you use, it should be without ballast resistor and have 3?ohms resistance?especially with a Pertronix ignition. ?And carry a spare Pertronix module!?


Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS


On Monday, September 8, 2025, 11:24 PM, Engl via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:

Rich
I have petronix with the non-ballast Lucas Sportcoil (?65 BJ8). ?I think the ballast coil is used only for cars with a ballast resistor in the ignition circuit (like the ?72 Jaguar XJ6 I had).?
No experience with the Petronix coil.?
Bob England

On Sep 8, 2025, at 2:28?PM, Richard Antal via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:



?'Greetings all,? ? My BJ8 has. a Pertronix ignition. Should it have a ballested or non-ballested lucas sport coil? I note the Moss catalogue has a Pertronix coil; does anyone have experience with this coil and is it a better choice than the Lucas coil??
Thanks to all responders.rich antal_______________________________________________
Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html
Suggested annual donation ?$12.75

Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys

Healeys at autox.team.net
http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys

Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/engl at accesscomm.ca


_______________________________________________
Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html
Suggested annual donation? $12.75

Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys

Healeys at autox.team.net
http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys

Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rmarkovich at aol.com




_______________________________________________
Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html
Suggested annual donation? $12.75

Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys

Healeys at autox.team.net
http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys

Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/warthodson at aol.com

  
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://autox.team.net/pipermail/healeys/attachments/20250909/aef32ad6/attachment.htm>

From michael.oritt at gmail.com  Tue Sep  9 13:37:46 2025
From: michael.oritt at gmail.com (Michael Oritt)
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2025 15:37:46 -0400
Subject: [Healeys] coils
In-Reply-To: <2dd37d42-22e6-122c-208b-86d911d0c938@charter.net>
References: <2dd37d42-22e6-122c-208b-86d911d0c938@charter.net>
Message-ID: <CAPTa0B5cD1wgXSF7_wLPJmi4m-G+Mrs5N3WY33+G08cF=qekwA@mail.gmail.com>

I have been running a Mallory Unilite distributor and an MSD Blaster coil
with power routed to the coil through a 1.5 ohm ceramic resistor in order
to lower current and protect the ignition module.
At one time I wired a bypass around the resistor to deliver full current
for starting as Mallory suggests but I found that the car starts fine with
the reduced current so eliminated the bypass wire.

Best--Michael Oritt

On Tue, Sep 9, 2025 at 12:53?PM Hank Leach via Healeys <
healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:

> I believe the ballast resistor was a unit which helped to keep a
> traditional set of points from burning/sparking.  The Jensen-Healey uses
> such an arrangement.  However, due to the inaccessibility of the
> distributor (under the manifold) I converted to Pertronix years ago. Then
> one day the car would not start. I mapped out the ballast resistor using a
> paper clip and was on my way. Hank
> --------------------
>
> From: "Engl via Healeys" <healeys at autox.team.net>
> Reply-To: "Engl" <engl at accesscomm.ca>
> To: "Richard Antal" <rantal243 at yahoo.com>
> Cc: "Healeys" <healeys at autox.team.net>
> Sent: September 8, 2025 at 8:25 PM PDT
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] coils
> Rich
>
> I have petronix with the non-ballast Lucas Sportcoil (?65 BJ8).  I think
> the ballast coil is used only for cars with a ballast resistor in the
> ignition circuit (like the ?72 Jaguar XJ6 I had).
>
> No experience with the Petronix coil.
>
> Bob England
>
> On Sep 8, 2025, at 2:28?PM, Richard Antal via Healeys <
> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> 'Greetings all,
>     My BJ8 has. a Pertronix ignition. Should it have a ballested or
> non-ballested lucas sport coil? I note the Moss catalogue has a Pertronix
> coil; does anyone have experience with this coil and is it a better choice
> than the Lucas coil?
> Thanks to all responders.
> rich antal
> _______________________________________________
> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html
> Suggested annual donation  $12.75
>
> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys
> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys
>
> Healeys at autox.team.net
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys
>
> Unsubscribe/Manage:
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/engl at accesscomm.ca
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html
> Suggested annual donation  $12.75
>
> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys
> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys
>
> Healeys at autox.team.net
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys
>
> Unsubscribe/Manage:
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt at gmail.com
>
>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://autox.team.net/pipermail/healeys/attachments/20250909/a4960ce7/attachment.htm>

From rmarkovich at aol.com  Tue Sep  9 13:53:39 2025
From: rmarkovich at aol.com (Robert Markovich)
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2025 19:53:39 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Healeys] coils
In-Reply-To: <391859604.1433336.1757440913132@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <2048706000.1320925.1757359025830@mail.yahoo.com>
 <5063DCB7-11AE-4608-9E4B-940555B58090@accesscomm.ca>
 <662296309.1631055.1757427640059@mail.yahoo.com>
 <391859604.1433336.1757440913132@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <100988061.1782830.1757447619048@mail.yahoo.com>

Good to hear! I have two Pertronix coils in my parts bin ?


Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS


On Tuesday, September 9, 2025, 2:01 PM, warthodson at aol.com <warthodson at aol.com> wrote:

 I installed a Pertronix & their coil (3 ohm) when I rebuilt my engine about 15 years ago. I am probably pushing 100,000 Miles and have had no problems.Gary
    On Tuesday, September 9, 2025 at 11:05:04 AM CDT, Robert Markovich via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:   

 I had one fail several years ago and, fortunately, had?a Lucas Sport Coil in?the trunk. I?ve heard others have had trouble with the Pertronix coil, whereas I?ve never had an issue with the Lucas coil, despite all the Prince of Darkness jokes.?Whichever you use, it should be without ballast resistor and have 3?ohms resistance?especially with a Pertronix ignition. ?And carry a spare Pertronix module!?


Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS


On Monday, September 8, 2025, 11:24 PM, Engl via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:

Rich
I have petronix with the non-ballast Lucas Sportcoil (?65 BJ8). ?I think the ballast coil is used only for cars with a ballast resistor in the ignition circuit (like the ?72 Jaguar XJ6 I had).?
No experience with the Petronix coil.?
Bob England

On Sep 8, 2025, at 2:28?PM, Richard Antal via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:



?'Greetings all,? ? My BJ8 has. a Pertronix ignition. Should it have a ballested or non-ballested lucas sport coil? I note the Moss catalogue has a Pertronix coil; does anyone have experience with this coil and is it a better choice than the Lucas coil??
Thanks to all responders.rich antal_______________________________________________
Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html
Suggested annual donation ?$12.75

Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys

Healeys at autox.team.net
http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys

Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/engl at accesscomm.ca


_______________________________________________
Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html
Suggested annual donation? $12.75

Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys

Healeys at autox.team.net
http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys

Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rmarkovich at aol.com




_______________________________________________
Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html
Suggested annual donation? $12.75

Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys

Healeys at autox.team.net
http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys

Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/warthodson at aol.com

  


-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://autox.team.net/pipermail/healeys/attachments/20250909/920566c1/attachment.htm>

From goldengt at cal.net  Tue Sep  9 15:17:22 2025
From: goldengt at cal.net (Ken)
Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2025 14:17:22 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] coils
In-Reply-To: <CAPTa0B5cD1wgXSF7_wLPJmi4m-G+Mrs5N3WY33+G08cF=qekwA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4cLxVD002JzSyRky@allmail.cal.net>

I recently tried a Pertonix coil. It melted my ignition wire back to the switch! I put the old gold Lucas sport coil back on. Never any problems.?Ken Freese?65 BJ8Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
-------- Original message --------From: Michael Oritt <michael.oritt at gmail.com> Date: 9/9/25  1:25 PM  (GMT-08:00) To: gradea1 at charter.net Cc: Richard Antal <rantal243 at yahoo.com>, Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [Healeys] coils I have been running a Mallory Unilite distributor and an MSD Blaster coil with power routed to the coil through a 1.5 ohm ceramic resistor in order to lower current and protect the ignition module.At one time I wired a bypass around the resistor to deliver full current for starting as Mallory suggests but I found that the car starts fine with the reduced current so eliminated the bypass wire.Best--Michael OrittOn Tue, Sep 9, 2025 at 12:53?PM Hank Leach via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:I believe the ballast resistor was a unit which helped to keep a traditional set of points from burning/sparking.? The Jensen-Healey uses such an arrangement.? However, due to the inaccessibility of the distributor (under the manifold) I converted to Pertronix years ago. Then one day the car would not start. I mapped out the ballast resistor using a paper clip and was on my way. Hank-------------------- From: "Engl via Healeys" <healeys at autox.team.net> Reply-To: "Engl" <engl at accesscomm.ca> To: "Richard Antal" <rantal243 at yahoo.com> Cc: "Healeys" <healeys at autox.team.net> Sent: September 8, 2025 at 8:25 PM PDT Subject: Re: [Healeys] coils Rich
?
I have petronix with the non-ballast Lucas Sportcoil (?65 BJ8).? I think the ballast coil is used only for cars with a ballast resistor in the ignition circuit (like the ?72 Jaguar XJ6 I had).?
?
No experience with the Petronix coil.?

Bob England

On Sep 8, 2025, at 2:28?PM, Richard Antal via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:




'Greetings all,
? ? My BJ8 has. a Pertronix ignition. Should it have a ballested or non-ballested lucas sport coil? I note the Moss catalogue has a Pertronix coil; does anyone have experience with this coil and is it a better choice than the Lucas coil??Thanks to all responders.
rich antal

_______________________________________________Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.htmlSuggested annual donation ?$12.75Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeysHealeys at autox.team.nethttp://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeysUnsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/engl at accesscomm.ca


?
_______________________________________________
Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html
Suggested annual donation? $12.75

Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys

Healeys at autox.team.net
http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys

Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt at gmail.com


-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://autox.team.net/pipermail/healeys/attachments/20250909/b28078f8/attachment.htm>

From boyracer466 at gmail.com  Tue Sep  9 15:20:41 2025
From: boyracer466 at gmail.com (richard mayor)
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2025 14:20:41 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] coils
In-Reply-To: <2dd37d42-22e6-122c-208b-86d911d0c938@charter.net>
References: <2dd37d42-22e6-122c-208b-86d911d0c938@charter.net>
Message-ID: <5B269FD4-EEF6-45CF-8A79-A514DE2DB285@gmail.com>

There are two types of coils. Those that have an internal resistance of 3 ohms and therefore do not need a ballast  resister. The other type has an internal resistance of 1.0 - 1.5 ohms and will burn up the points without a ballast resister in line with the coil.  

A Pertronix or any other electronic trigger does not need a 3 ohm coil or a 1.5 ohm coil with ballast resister because it does not have points that would get burned up with a continuous 12 volts. 

  
Richard Mayor
boyracer466 at gmail.com



> On Sep 9, 2025, at 8:51?AM, Hank Leach via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> I believe the ballast resistor was a unit which helped to keep a traditional set of points from burning/sparking.  The Jensen-Healey uses such an arrangement.  However, due to the inaccessibility of the distributor (under the manifold) I converted to Pertronix years ago. Then one day the car would not start. I mapped out the ballast resistor using a paper clip and was on my way. Hank
> -------------------- 
> 
> From: "Engl via Healeys" <healeys at autox.team.net> 
> Reply-To: "Engl" <engl at accesscomm.ca> 
> To: "Richard Antal" <rantal243 at yahoo.com> 
> Cc: "Healeys" <healeys at autox.team.net> 
> Sent: September 8, 2025 at 8:25 PM PDT 
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] coils 
> Rich
>  
> I have petronix with the non-ballast Lucas Sportcoil (?65 BJ8).  I think the ballast coil is used only for cars with a ballast resistor in the ignition circuit (like the ?72 Jaguar XJ6 I had). 
>  
> No experience with the Petronix coil. 
> 
> Bob England
> 
> On Sep 8, 2025, at 2:28?PM, Richard Antal via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> 'Greetings all,
>     My BJ8 has. a Pertronix ignition. Should it have a ballested or non-ballested lucas sport coil? I note the Moss catalogue has a Pertronix coil; does anyone have experience with this coil and is it a better choice than the Lucas coil? 
> Thanks to all responders.
> rich antal
> _______________________________________________
> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html
> Suggested annual donation  $12.75
> 
> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys
> 
> Healeys at autox.team.net
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys
> 
> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/engl at accesscomm.ca
> 
>  
> _______________________________________________
> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html
> Suggested annual donation  $12.75
> 
> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys
> 
> Healeys at autox.team.net
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys
> 
> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/boyracer466 at gmail.com
> 

-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://autox.team.net/pipermail/healeys/attachments/20250909/3d25c8dd/attachment.htm>

From gradea1 at charter.net  Tue Sep  9 15:53:39 2025
From: gradea1 at charter.net (Hank Leach)
Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2025 21:53:39 +0000
Subject: [Healeys] coils
Message-ID: <59298360-13b4-013c-0e39-a127c1ec339e@charter.net>

An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://autox.team.net/pipermail/healeys/attachments/20250909/5bd9ecc2/attachment.htm>

From mikljmal at gmail.com  Sat Sep 13 05:01:25 2025
From: mikljmal at gmail.com (Michael J Maloney)
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2025 07:01:25 -0400
Subject: [Healeys] Money
Message-ID: <CAK8B1p0tcKjEjSAjMAEubLKO+f=Y0EZ=7FU0Qz=pK=jRFdFjpA@mail.gmail.com>

I need help,how do I send you money?
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://autox.team.net/pipermail/healeys/attachments/20250913/a49ec428/attachment.htm>

From mark at bradakis.com  Sat Sep 13 07:29:21 2025
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark Bradakis)
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2025 07:29:21 -0600
Subject: [Healeys] Money
In-Reply-To: <CAK8B1p0tcKjEjSAjMAEubLKO+f=Y0EZ=7FU0Qz=pK=jRFdFjpA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAK8B1p0tcKjEjSAjMAEubLKO+f=Y0EZ=7FU0Qz=pK=jRFdFjpA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <957b54c5-01a6-403b-9d79-1911a32256d5@bradakis.com>

On 9/13/25 5:01 AM, Michael J Maloney wrote:
> I need help,how do I send you money?

Odd.  Usually when someone gets their email hacked, the bad guy asks you 
to send them money.  Maybe this is a legitimate email?

Anyway, try the donate link in the footer, http://www.team.net/donate.html

But you certainly don't need to send any money before asking a question 
here.  I've never been one to enrich myself through these lists, it has 
always been a labor of love.

mjb.


From joemulqueen at yahoo.com  Sat Sep 13 11:50:50 2025
From: joemulqueen at yahoo.com (joe mulqueen)
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2025 17:50:50 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Healeys] Engine block plugs
In-Reply-To: <mailman.3.1757181602.25954.healeys@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.3.1757181602.25954.healeys@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <102196766.1774922.1757785850417@mail.yahoo.com>

 Appoligize if my reply navigation is wrong but spied Harold's good advice to tap the gallery holes...definitiely more reliable path...is that way brass plugs appear to not be readily available?
Thanks - Joe Mulqueen
    On Saturday, September 6, 2025 at 11:21:07 AM PDT, healeys-request at autox.team.net <healeys-request at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
 Send Healeys mailing list submissions to
??? healeys at autox.team.net

To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
? ?http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys
or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
??? healeys-request at autox.team.net

You can reach the person managing the list at
??? healeys-owner at autox.team.net

When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
than "Re: Contents of Healeys digest..."


Today's Topics:

? 1. Re: Engine block plugs (Bob Spidell)
? 2. Re: Engine block plugs (JSARCH)
? 3. Re: Engine block plugs (Harold Manifold)
? 4. Re: Engine block plugs (Michael Salter)
? 5. Re: Engine block plugs (m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca)
? 6. Re: Engine block plugs (Per Schoerner)


----------------------------------------------------------------------

Message: 1
Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2025 16:55:24 -0700
From: Bob Spidell <bspidell at comcast.net>
To: healeys at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Engine block plugs
Message-ID: <f5002fde-43c6-4c74-b938-7d097ca1ac64 at comcast.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed"

When I had my BJ8 engine overhauled the shop who did the work--a 
well-known local outfit--could not find properly-sized freeze/casting 
plugs, so he bought oversized metric ones and machined them to fit. He 
didn't mention the gallery plugs but, presumably, a shop could do the 
same for them.

Bob

On 9/5/2025 4:59 AM, Perry Small via Healeys wrote:
> Listers. Any advice on this info request?
> Recently had a BJ8 engine block hot tanked and cleaned.? Unfortunately, Machine shop drilled out all the small brass oil and water gallery plugs.? Do you know of a source for those or info on the dimensions to fabricate them?
>? End copy
>
> Perry
> Sent from my iPhone
>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://autox.team.net/pipermail/healeys/attachments/20250905/8c34791b/attachment-0001.htm>

------------------------------

Message: 2
Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2025 18:11:13 -0700
From: "JSARCH" <jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net>
To: "'Perry Small'" <healeyguy at aol.com>, "'Healeys'"
??? <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Engine block plugs
Message-ID: <00f101dc1ecb$2430e210$6c92a630$@sbcglobal.net>
Content-Type: text/plain;??? charset="utf-8"

They dissolve when the block is hot tanked. It is a common item; I am surprised the machine shop does not have them and did not reinstall them after cleaning the block.

They are core plugs, items 2 and 3 on the Moss website.

https://mossmotors.com/ahy-006-external-engine-100-6-3000

John

-----Original Message-----
From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Perry Small via Healeys
Sent: Friday, September 5, 2025 5:00 AM
To: Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Healeys] Engine block plugs

Listers. Any advice on this info request? Recently had a BJ8 engine block hot tanked and cleaned.? Unfortunately, Machine shop drilled out all the small brass oil and water gallery plugs.? Do you know of a source for those or info on the dimensions to fabricate them?
 End copy

Perry
Sent from my iPhone
_______________________________________________
Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75

Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys

Healeys at autox.team.net
http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys

Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net




------------------------------

Message: 3
Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2025 20:45:19 -0600
From: Harold Manifold <manifold at telus.net>
To: Perry Small <healeyguy at aol.com>
Cc: Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Engine block plugs
Message-ID: <EAF5DF44-4132-4284-86E2-C73837E08967 at telus.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

Perry,

Tap all of the holes for a standard NPT plug. Use plugs that tighten flush with a hex key. All of those plugs should have been removed for a more thorough cleaning.

Regards,
Harold

> On Sep 5, 2025, at 4:31?PM, Perry Small via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?Listers. Any advice on this info request?? 
> Recently had a BJ8 engine block hot tanked and cleaned.? Unfortunately, Machine shop drilled out all the small brass oil and water gallery plugs.? Do you know of a source for those or info on the dimensions to fabricate them?
> End copy
> 
> Perry
> Sent from my iPhone
> _______________________________________________
> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html
> Suggested annual donation? $12.75
> 
> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys
> 
> Healeys at autox.team.net
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys
> 
> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/manifold at telus.net
> 


------------------------------

Message: 4
Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2025 02:53:31 +0000
From: Michael Salter <michael.salter at gmail.com>
To: Perry Small <healeyguy at aol.com>, Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Engine block plugs
Message-ID:
??? <SN7PR22MB376408BEE2A382BDAD5B5AA4A102A at SN7PR22MB3764.namprd22.prod.outlook.com>
??? 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"

I would suggest that you contact Core Plugs International.? They seem to have everything.
I buy brass ones for all my engines from them.

M


________________________________
From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of Perry Small via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, September 5, 2025 7:59:59 AM
To: Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Healeys] Engine block plugs

Listers. Any advice on this info request?
Recently had a BJ8 engine block hot tanked and cleaned.? Unfortunately, Machine shop drilled out all the small brass oil and water gallery plugs.? Do you know of a source for those or info on the dimensions to fabricate them?
 End copy

Perry
Sent from my iPhone
_______________________________________________
Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html
Suggested annual donation? $12.75

Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys

Healeys at autox.team.net
http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys

Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com

-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://autox.team.net/pipermail/healeys/attachments/20250906/cb347a62/attachment-0001.htm>

------------------------------

Message: 5
Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2025 00:26:56 -0400
From: <m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca>
To: "'Perry Small'" <healeyguy at aol.com>, "'Healeys'"
??? <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Engine block plugs
Message-ID: <053801dc1ee6$7b4d3100$71e79300$@sympatico.ca>
Content-Type: text/plain;??? charset="UTF-8"

Perry, when we did my BT7 motor I seem to recall initially having trouble sourcing the correct size plugs.? Then I found this company - Core Plugs International - the name says is all.? All they do are plugs and they were great to deal with.

https://coreplugs.co.uk

Cheers, Mirek

-----Original Message-----
From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Perry Small via Healeys
Sent: September 5, 2025 8:00 AM
To: Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Healeys] Engine block plugs

Listers. Any advice on this info request? Recently had a BJ8 engine block hot tanked and cleaned.? Unfortunately, Machine shop drilled out all the small brass oil and water gallery plugs.? Do you know of a source for those or info on the dimensions to fabricate them?
 End copy

Perry
Sent from my iPhone
_______________________________________________
Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75

Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys

Healeys at autox.team.net
http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys

Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca




------------------------------

Message: 6
Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2025 16:27:49 +0200
From: Per Schoerner <per at schoerner.se>
To: Perry Small <healeyguy at aol.com>
Cc: Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Engine block plugs
Message-ID: <AF34C31E-7B87-4977-A2FD-FA9B81FE8849 at schoerner.se>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

And don?t forget to seal the internal oil channels in the block, I?m thinking of the channel from left to right and the one that goes up to the cylinder head. When you clean the block all the puriosite in the cast iron is exposed for the oil pressure, which is higher than the coolant pressure, and you will eventually end up with the deaded oil in water mess.
There has been kits in the market to do this from the usual suspects. Magnus Karlsson helped me with my block some 15 years ago. We screwed in threaded pipes in the oil ways.

Per


Skickat fr?n min iPhone

> 6 sep. 2025 kl. 00:34 skrev Perry Small via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net>:
> 
> ?Listers. Any advice on this info request?? 
> Recently had a BJ8 engine block hot tanked and cleaned.? Unfortunately, Machine shop drilled out all the small brass oil and water gallery plugs.? Do you know of a source for those or info on the dimensions to fabricate them?
> End copy
> 
> Perry
> Sent from my iPhone
> _______________________________________________
> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html
> Suggested annual donation? $12.75
> 
> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys
> 
> Healeys at autox.team.net
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys
> 
> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/per at schoerner.se
> 


------------------------------

Subject: Digest Footer

_______________________________________________
Healeys mailing list
Healeys at autox.team.net
http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys

archives:? http://autox.team.net/archive



------------------------------

End of Healeys Digest, Vol 18, Issue 144
****************************************
  
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://autox.team.net/pipermail/healeys/attachments/20250913/225cd8a7/attachment.htm>

From joemulqueen at yahoo.com  Sat Sep 13 11:55:09 2025
From: joemulqueen at yahoo.com (joe mulqueen)
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2025 17:55:09 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Healeys] BT7 Restoration Restart after 20 Yrs (Al Fuller)
In-Reply-To: <mailman.4.1756836002.16010.healeys@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.4.1756836002.16010.healeys@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <542258453.1779331.1757786109844@mail.yahoo.com>

 Hello? - I remembered I need to get a front apron.? Rather not spend a bunch of work fixing an old one if the new repros are a good start.? Does anyone know who makes them....are there multiple versions or can't tell difference?Thanks,Joe Mulqueen'60 BT7 project
    On Tuesday, September 2, 2025 at 11:15:15 AM PDT, healeys-request at autox.team.net <healeys-request at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
 Send Healeys mailing list submissions to
??? healeys at autox.team.net

To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
??? http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys
or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
??? healeys-request at autox.team.net

You can reach the person managing the list at
??? healeys-owner at autox.team.net

When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
than "Re: Contents of Healeys digest..."


Today's Topics:

? 1. Re: BT7 Restoration Restart after 20 Yrs (Al Fuller)
? 2. Re: BT7 Restoration Restart after 20 Yrs (Simon Atkinson)
? 3. Re: BT7 Restoration Restart after 20 Yrs (JSARCH)
? 4. Re: BT7 Restoration Restart after 20 Yrs (Jim Ryan)


----------------------------------------------------------------------

Message: 1
Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2025 12:36:55 -0700
From: Al Fuller <alfuller194 at gmail.com>
To: joe mulqueen <joemulqueen at yahoo.com>
Cc: AH Mail List <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] BT7 Restoration Restart after 20 Yrs
Message-ID:
??? <CADkpZwHi-pVVWjLXKKq-GTbkWD8keWvR6Nc7HGHzuaU7jEZYOQ at mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

Joe, good luck on your project - it sounds like you have made a good start.
One thing does come to mind based on what happened when I built my 'basket
case' BJ-8.

The body guy insisted the doors and fenders needed substantial work, but
the frame builder said all the panels were fitted and tuned before it left
there (years prior).

It turned out there were slight differences in the hinges. The frame
builder had stamped them with positions, but the car arrived at the body
shop with scrambled hinges. My takeaway is to ensure it all fits before
moving forward.

Good luck and enjoy the journey!

________________
Sent from my phone
Best Regards,
Al Fuller

On Mon, Sep 1, 2025, 12:18?AM joe mulqueen via Healeys <
healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:

> Hello All, I'm a 20 year lurker, with thousands of unread digest emails
> because of marriage, kids, and other life issues (ha ha....I think it was
> worth it!)? Things got so bad I almost forgot that I had a BT7 left in
> storage in Southern CA, while I had been living in Northern CA? The car
> was a wreck when I got it, and it needed alot of structural and body
> repair.? I worked on it up to a refreshed rolling chassis status before
> putting it away.? But now today it's at a paint shop in Los Angeles, with a
> guy that has done 9 other Healeys before mine.? I'm jazzed I got a time
> slot with him.
>
> There are some issues though.? I live 350 miles away up in Santa Clara
> (Northern CA) so can only get down there every few wks...but I do have a
> Healey friend who knows the guy and is checking in and taking pics.? Also
> decided I will install the engine after the paint job...and after I bring
> the car up North...I wrangled over these logistics along time.
>
> When the rough repairs were done 25 yrs ago, all body parts were stripped,
> fixed, and check fitted.? The current body/paint guy is tyding up the
> shrouds and will paint all under surfaces, then hang for outer finish and
> paint.? When done, I will own the final fit and even the final fit of the
> shrouds.? I'm planning to install the engine and ducting with the painted
> shroud lifted off the car.? That's my assumption...Is that possible if
> careful?
>
> Also, any referals for a engine machine shop preferably in Northern CA?? I
> have the engine in my garage all stripped down..
> Regards,
> Joe M
> Santa Clara
> 60 BT7
>
> _______________________________________________
> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html
> Suggested annual donation? $12.75
>
> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys
> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys
>
> Healeys at autox.team.net
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys
>
> Unsubscribe/Manage:
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/alfuller194 at gmail.com
>
>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://autox.team.net/pipermail/healeys/attachments/20250901/fad49d42/attachment-0001.htm>

------------------------------

Message: 2
Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2025 16:08:42 -0400
From: Simon Atkinson <satkinson1974 at gmail.com>
To: Al Fuller <alfuller194 at gmail.com>
Cc: joe mulqueen <joemulqueen at yahoo.com>, AH Mail List
??? <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] BT7 Restoration Restart after 20 Yrs
Message-ID: <0C04DCA2-B0D9-4C1C-8E23-1E5CC077A160 at gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://autox.team.net/pipermail/healeys/attachments/20250901/400e1970/attachment-0001.htm>

------------------------------

Message: 3
Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2025 13:53:30 -0700
From: "JSARCH" <jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net>
To: "'Al Fuller'" <alfuller194 at gmail.com>, "'joe mulqueen'"
??? <joemulqueen at yahoo.com>
Cc: "'AH Mail List'" <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] BT7 Restoration Restart after 20 Yrs
Message-ID: <010201dc1b82$7a05ef60$6e11ce20$@sbcglobal.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

Joe, good advice from Al. When I turned my 1962 BT7 over to the shop for body work and painting the shrouds, boot lid, bonnet, wings and doors were attached to ensure fit before painting. 

 

Cheers,

John Spaur

 

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Al Fuller
Sent: Monday, September 1, 2025 12:37 PM
To: joe mulqueen <joemulqueen at yahoo.com>
Cc: AH Mail List <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] BT7 Restoration Restart after 20 Yrs

 

Joe, good luck on your project - it sounds like you have made a good start. One thing does come to mind based on what happened when I built my 'basket case' BJ-8. 

 

The body guy insisted the doors and fenders needed substantial work, but the frame builder said all the panels were fitted and tuned before it left there (years prior). 

 

It turned out there were slight differences in the hinges. The frame builder had stamped them with positions, but the car arrived at the body shop with scrambled hinges. My takeaway is to ensure it all fits before moving forward.

 

Good luck and enjoy the journey!

 

________________
Sent from my phone 
Best Regards,
Al Fuller

 

On Mon, Sep 1, 2025, 12:18?AM joe mulqueen via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> > wrote:

Hello All, I'm a 20 year lurker, with thousands of unread digest emails because of marriage, kids, and other life issues (ha ha....I think it was worth it!)? Things got so bad I almost forgot that I had a BT7 left in storage in Southern CA, while I had been living in Northern CA? The car was a wreck when I got it, and it needed alot of structural and body repair.? I worked on it up to a refreshed rolling chassis status before putting it away.? But now today it's at a paint shop in Los Angeles, with a guy that has done 9 other Healeys before mine.? I'm jazzed I got a time slot with him.

 

There are some issues though.? I live 350 miles away up in Santa Clara (Northern CA) so can only get down there every few wks...but I do have a Healey friend who knows the guy and is checking in and taking pics.? Also decided I will install the engine after the paint job...and after I bring the car up North...I wrangled over these logistics along time.

 

When the rough repairs were done 25 yrs ago, all body parts were stripped, fixed, and check fitted.? The current body/paint guy is tyding up the shrouds and will paint all under surfaces, then hang for outer finish and paint.? When done, I will own the final fit and even the final fit of the shrouds.? I'm planning to install the engine and ducting with the painted shroud lifted off the car.? That's my assumption...Is that possible if careful?

 

Also, any referals for a engine machine shop preferably in Northern CA?? I have the engine in my garage all stripped down..

Regards,

Joe M

Santa Clara

60 BT7

 

_______________________________________________
Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html
Suggested annual donation? $12.75

Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys

Healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:Healeys at autox.team.net> 
http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys

Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/alfuller194 at gmail.com

-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://autox.team.net/pipermail/healeys/attachments/20250901/f915174c/attachment-0001.htm>

------------------------------

Message: 4
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2025 10:43:02 -0400
From: Jim Ryan <ryan at jimryan.com>
To: JSARCH <jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net>
Cc: Al Fuller <alfuller194 at gmail.com>, joe mulqueen
??? <joemulqueen at yahoo.com>,? AH Mail List <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] BT7 Restoration Restart after 20 Yrs
Message-ID:
??? <CAEajuYx4=bY5S+ny7J+5=X73XahBa5x=36iVkjTi2qLCz31cpQ at mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

I had a front end mishap when I first got my BJ7 in 74.? I found a
replacement shroud in perfect condition and gave it to him in lieu of
trying to straighten out the old one.

Well, some months later I went to pick up the car and it wasn't until I got
home that I noticed a very slight difference in the spaces between the
right and left doors and the shroud. After looking closely at the shroud
from the inside I realized they had cut the right half off of each
shroud and welded the new to the old and the? measurements were off.

The place was such a nightmare to deal with I just said the hell with it
and kept it that way.? I'm not a body guy (obviously) but what the hell
were they thinking?

Probably not relevant to this thread but thought I'd share it.

On Mon, Sep 1, 2025 at 4:59?PM JSARCH <jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> Joe, good advice from Al. When I turned my 1962 BT7 over to the shop for
> body work and painting the shrouds, boot lid, bonnet, wings and doors were
> attached to ensure fit before painting.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> John Spaur
>
>
>
> *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Al Fuller
> *Sent:* Monday, September 1, 2025 12:37 PM
> *To:* joe mulqueen <joemulqueen at yahoo.com>
> *Cc:* AH Mail List <healeys at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] BT7 Restoration Restart after 20 Yrs
>
>
>
> Joe, good luck on your project - it sounds like you have made a good
> start. One thing does come to mind based on what happened when I built my
> 'basket case' BJ-8.
>
>
>
> The body guy insisted the doors and fenders needed substantial work, but
> the frame builder said all the panels were fitted and tuned before it left
> there (years prior).
>
>
>
> It turned out there were slight differences in the hinges. The frame
> builder had stamped them with positions, but the car arrived at the body
> shop with scrambled hinges. My takeaway is to ensure it all fits before
> moving forward.
>
>
>
> Good luck and enjoy the journey!
>
>
>
> ________________
> Sent from my phone
> Best Regards,
> Al Fuller
>
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 1, 2025, 12:18?AM joe mulqueen via Healeys <
> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> Hello All, I'm a 20 year lurker, with thousands of unread digest emails
> because of marriage, kids, and other life issues (ha ha....I think it was
> worth it!)? Things got so bad I almost forgot that I had a BT7 left in
> storage in Southern CA, while I had been living in Northern CA? The car
> was a wreck when I got it, and it needed alot of structural and body
> repair.? I worked on it up to a refreshed rolling chassis status before
> putting it away.? But now today it's at a paint shop in Los Angeles, with a
> guy that has done 9 other Healeys before mine.? I'm jazzed I got a time
> slot with him.
>
>
>
> There are some issues though.? I live 350 miles away up in Santa Clara
> (Northern CA) so can only get down there every few wks...but I do have a
> Healey friend who knows the guy and is checking in and taking pics.? Also
> decided I will install the engine after the paint job...and after I bring
> the car up North...I wrangled over these logistics along time.
>
>
>
> When the rough repairs were done 25 yrs ago, all body parts were stripped,
> fixed, and check fitted.? The current body/paint guy is tyding up the
> shrouds and will paint all under surfaces, then hang for outer finish and
> paint.? When done, I will own the final fit and even the final fit of the
> shrouds.? I'm planning to install the engine and ducting with the painted
> shroud lifted off the car.? That's my assumption...Is that possible if
> careful?
>
>
>
> Also, any referals for a engine machine shop preferably in Northern CA?? I
> have the engine in my garage all stripped down..
>
> Regards,
>
> Joe M
>
> Santa Clara
>
> 60 BT7
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html
> Suggested annual donation? $12.75
>
> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys
> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys
>
> Healeys at autox.team.net
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys
>
> Unsubscribe/Manage:
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/alfuller194 at gmail.com
>
> _______________________________________________
> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html
> Suggested annual donation? $12.75
>
> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys
> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys
>
> Healeys at autox.team.net
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys
>
> Unsubscribe/Manage:
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ryan at jimryan.com
>
>

-- 

Jim Ryan

????
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://autox.team.net/pipermail/healeys/attachments/20250902/626916d9/attachment-0001.htm>

------------------------------

Subject: Digest Footer

_______________________________________________
Healeys mailing list
Healeys at autox.team.net
http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys

archives:? http://autox.team.net/archive



------------------------------

End of Healeys Digest, Vol 18, Issue 141
****************************************
  
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://autox.team.net/pipermail/healeys/attachments/20250913/397388b8/attachment.htm>

From bspidell at comcast.net  Sat Sep 13 21:51:30 2025
From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell)
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2025 20:51:30 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] First Factory Disks and Healey Sighting
Message-ID: <afd78fd0-386c-46c3-9800-de968f6570a1@comcast.net>

This issue comes up for debate from time-to-time; I think this article 
has it pretty much correct from what I know.

https://www.slashgear.com/1964565/first-factory-standard-disk-brakes-car-history/


Healey Sighting I hadn't seen before: in the (mediocre) movie K-PAX with 
Kevin Spacey and Jeff Bridges there is a Healey parked at Bridges' 
character's house during a garden party. Looks to be a Mk II.

From s.hutchings at rogers.com  Sun Sep 14 13:19:53 2025
From: s.hutchings at rogers.com (Stephen Hutchings)
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2025 21:19:53 +0200
Subject: [Healeys] Tour in France?
References: <3F84791C-637B-4F71-9D38-54F7B2072B3C.ref@rogers.com>
Message-ID: <3F84791C-637B-4F71-9D38-54F7B2072B3C@rogers.com>

Hi everyone,

I?m hiking in France right now,  and as I walked through Le Puy yesterday (Sept. 13th) four or five Healeys drove through together- I remember a couple of red and black 100/6?s or Mk1 300?s and a Healey blue 100?left hand drive cars. I wondered if someone on the list was on a tour?
Of course, they could have been French cars, but it?s quite rare to see vintage cars on the road here.

Stephen, BJ8

Sent from my iPad

From jvwojcik at comcast.net  Sun Sep 14 14:51:34 2025
From: jvwojcik at comcast.net (jvwojcik at comcast.net)
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2025 20:51:34 +0000
Subject: [Healeys] Tour in France?
In-Reply-To: <3F84791C-637B-4F71-9D38-54F7B2072B3C@rogers.com>
References: <3F84791C-637B-4F71-9D38-54F7B2072B3C.ref@rogers.com>
 <3F84791C-637B-4F71-9D38-54F7B2072B3C@rogers.com>
Message-ID: <BL1PR11MB536642530053012C1EB063D4A40AA@BL1PR11MB5366.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>

Not sure how active this site is now, but quite a few owners world-wide have cars on this site
http://www.austin-healey.fr/index0.html

Jim

________________________________
From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of Stephen Hutchings via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2025 2:19 PM
To: Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Healeys] Tour in France?

Hi everyone,

I?m hiking in France right now,  and as I walked through Le Puy yesterday (Sept. 13th) four or five Healeys drove through together- I remember a couple of red and black 100/6?s or Mk1 300?s and a Healey blue 100?left hand drive cars. I wondered if someone on the list was on a tour?
Of course, they could have been French cars, but it?s quite rare to see vintage cars on the road here.

Stephen, BJ8

Sent from my iPad
_______________________________________________
Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html
Suggested annual donation  $12.75

Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys

Healeys at autox.team.net
http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys

Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/jvwojcik at comcast.net

-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://autox.team.net/pipermail/healeys/attachments/20250914/4857a18c/attachment.htm>

From simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com  Sun Sep 14 15:16:04 2025
From: simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com (simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com)
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2025 22:16:04 +0100
Subject: [Healeys] Tour in France?
In-Reply-To: <3F84791C-637B-4F71-9D38-54F7B2072B3C@rogers.com>
References: <3F84791C-637B-4F71-9D38-54F7B2072B3C.ref@rogers.com>
 <3F84791C-637B-4F71-9D38-54F7B2072B3C@rogers.com>
Message-ID: <000d01dc25bc$cd113a90$6733afb0$@alexarevel.plus.com>

Well...........Club Healey France is a decent sized organization. I was with them at the Le Mans Classic in June this year. They are a very pleasant bunch and, mercifully, most of them speak better English than I do French. They seem to prefer 100s and 3000s as there wasn't a single Sprite. Speaking to them, I got the impression that most of them came from the southern parts of France. (Less rain/rust?) Attached is a picture showing my red over oew just after we arrived. I suppose about another ten cars arrived to my left with the same number opposite. Plenty of Healeys.
I drove down south after the weekend and went pretty near where you are now. Overnight in Issoire which is just north of Le Puy and thence to near Perpignan which is pretty close to the Spanish border.
Simon


Hi everyone,

I?m hiking in France right now,  and as I walked through Le Puy yesterday (Sept. 13th) four or five Healeys drove through together- I remember a couple of red and black 100/6?s or Mk1 300?s and a Healey blue 100?left hand drive cars. I wondered if someone on the list was on a tour?
Of course, they could have been French cars, but it?s quite rare to see vintage cars on the road here.

Stephen, BJ8

Sent from my iPad
_______________________________________________
Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation  $12.75

Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys

Healeys at autox.team.net
http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys

Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com

-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: On Club Healey France Stand.jpg
Type: image/jpeg
Size: 3371500 bytes
Desc: not available
URL: <http://autox.team.net/pipermail/healeys/attachments/20250914/c1ede63d/attachment-0001.jpg>

From simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com  Sun Sep 14 15:42:24 2025
From: simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com (simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com)
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2025 22:42:24 +0100
Subject: [Healeys] Tour in France?
References: <3F84791C-637B-4F71-9D38-54F7B2072B3C.ref@rogers.com>
 <3F84791C-637B-4F71-9D38-54F7B2072B3C@rogers.com> 
Message-ID: <000001dc25c0$790b3b40$6b21b1c0$@alexarevel.plus.com>

Correction, July. Not June. Can't decipher my own diary.
Incidentally, Le Mans Classic is an annual event from now on so next one is '26. Easy for me...2.5 hours to English ferry port here (Poole). 3.5 hours from French ferry port (Cherbourg) to Le Mans. May be a trifle trickier for some of you guys!
Simon

-----Original Message-----
From: simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com <simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com> 
Sent: 14 September 2025 22:16
To: 'Stephen Hutchings' <s.hutchings at rogers.com>; 'Healeys' <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: RE: [Healeys] Tour in France?

Well...........Club Healey France is a decent sized organization. I was with them at the Le Mans Classic in June this year. They are a very pleasant bunch and, mercifully, most of them speak better English than I do French. They seem to prefer 100s and 3000s as there wasn't a single Sprite. Speaking to them, I got the impression that most of them came from the southern parts of France. (Less rain/rust?) Attached is a picture showing my red over oew just after we arrived. I suppose about another ten cars arrived to my left with the same number opposite. Plenty of Healeys.
I drove down south after the weekend and went pretty near where you are now. Overnight in Issoire which is just north of Le Puy and thence to near Perpignan which is pretty close to the Spanish border.
Simon


Hi everyone,

I?m hiking in France right now,  and as I walked through Le Puy yesterday (Sept. 13th) four or five Healeys drove through together- I remember a couple of red and black 100/6?s or Mk1 300?s and a Healey blue 100?left hand drive cars. I wondered if someone on the list was on a tour?
Of course, they could have been French cars, but it?s quite rare to see vintage cars on the road here.

Stephen, BJ8

Sent from my iPad
_______________________________________________
Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation  $12.75

Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys

Healeys at autox.team.net
http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys

Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com



From simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com  Mon Sep 15 02:37:56 2025
From: simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com (simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com)
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2025 09:37:56 +0100
Subject: [Healeys] Tour in France?
In-Reply-To: <CADtDyyCrgfLZvaTQRNjjnv_ZgPOR4EbOjF=Xoq9+6QCR+tt4xw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <3F84791C-637B-4F71-9D38-54F7B2072B3C.ref@rogers.com>
 <3F84791C-637B-4F71-9D38-54F7B2072B3C@rogers.com>
 <000d01dc25bc$cd113a90$6733afb0$@alexarevel.plus.com>
 <CADtDyyCrgfLZvaTQRNjjnv_ZgPOR4EbOjF=Xoq9+6QCR+tt4xw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <001601dc261c$0c75d1a0$256174e0$@alexarevel.plus.com>

They are Cibie Oscars. Strange name? Cibie make quite a few lamps; I believe the Oscars are the most frequently found. They make ?Super Oscars? which are huge, too big in my opinion. Cibie was an independent French company but now it?s part of the Valeo group so still French but no longer independent. I have very bright LEDs in mine and they really light up the countryside. In fact, a friend described them as ?naff? which is British for anti-social, OTT or just plain rude. Too bad really!

 

From: David Woerpel <dtwoerpel at gmail.com> 
Sent: 14 September 2025 23:07
To: simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Tour in France?

 

My favorite colour combination.  Very nice.  I doubt my little 948 Frogeye would like the hills much.

Very interested in your auxiliary lamps. What kind are they?  I see 576s next to you but not familiar with yours.  Just curious.   Am watching Netflix, Devil's Leap, which was filmed near Le Puy I believe, perhaps a bit SE.

Enjoy the ride!

 

Dave W.

'59 :()

'59 MGA 1500

 

"Pay It Forward" 

 

 

On Sun, Sep 14, 2025, 4:43?PM Simon Lachlan via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> > wrote:

Well...........Club Healey France is a decent sized organization. I was with them at the Le Mans Classic in June this year. They are a very pleasant bunch and, mercifully, most of them speak better English than I do French. They seem to prefer 100s and 3000s as there wasn't a single Sprite. Speaking to them, I got the impression that most of them came from the southern parts of France. (Less rain/rust?) Attached is a picture showing my red over oew just after we arrived. I suppose about another ten cars arrived to my left with the same number opposite. Plenty of Healeys.
I drove down south after the weekend and went pretty near where you are now. Overnight in Issoire which is just north of Le Puy and thence to near Perpignan which is pretty close to the Spanish border.
Simon


Hi everyone,

I?m hiking in France right now,  and as I walked through Le Puy yesterday (Sept. 13th) four or five Healeys drove through together- I remember a couple of red and black 100/6?s or Mk1 300?s and a Healey blue 100?left hand drive cars. I wondered if someone on the list was on a tour?
Of course, they could have been French cars, but it?s quite rare to see vintage cars on the road here.

Stephen, BJ8

Sent from my iPad
_______________________________________________
Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation  $12.75

Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys

Healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:Healeys at autox.team.net> 
http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys

Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com

_______________________________________________
Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html
Suggested annual donation  $12.75

Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys

Healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:Healeys at autox.team.net> 
http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys

Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/dtwoerpel at gmail.com

-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://autox.team.net/pipermail/healeys/attachments/20250915/f5544ef8/attachment.htm>

From s.hutchings at rogers.com  Mon Sep 15 13:20:37 2025
From: s.hutchings at rogers.com (s.hutchings)
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2025 15:20:37 -0400
Subject: [Healeys] Tour in France?
In-Reply-To: <000001dc25c0$790b3b40$6b21b1c0$@alexarevel.plus.com>
Message-ID: <1674886731.346528.1757964042056@rogers.com>

Thanks for the info Simon.I live in Canada and my priority has been the Goodwood revival,? which I've been to four times. Now I'm considering the Le Mans classic, but sadly without my Healey!Stephen,? BJ8?Sent from my Galaxy
-------- Original message --------From: simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com Date: 2025-09-14  5:42 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: 'Stephen Hutchings' <s.hutchings at rogers.com>, 'Healeys' <healeys at autox.team.net> Subject: RE: [Healeys] Tour in France? Correction, July. Not June. Can't decipher my own diary.Incidentally, Le Mans Classic is an annual event from now on so next one is '26. Easy for me...2.5 hours to English ferry port here (Poole). 3.5 hours from French ferry port (Cherbourg) to Le Mans. May be a trifle trickier for some of you guys!Simon-----Original Message-----From: simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com <simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com> Sent: 14 September 2025 22:16To: 'Stephen Hutchings' <s.hutchings at rogers.com>; 'Healeys' <healeys at autox.team.net>Subject: RE: [Healeys] Tour in France?Well...........Club Healey France is a decent sized organization. I was with them at the Le Mans Classic in June this year. They are a very pleasant bunch and, mercifully, most of them speak better English than I do French. They seem to prefer 100s and 3000s as there wasn't a single Sprite. Speaking to them, I got the impression that most of them came from the southern parts of France. (Less rain/rust?) Attached is a picture showing my red over oew just after we arrived. I suppose about another ten cars arrived to my left with the same number opposite. Plenty of Healeys.I drove down south after the weekend and went pretty near where you are now. Overnight in Issoire which is just north of Le Puy and thence to near Perpignan which is pretty close to the Spanish border.SimonHi everyone,I?m hiking in France right now,? and as I walked through Le Puy yesterday (Sept. 13th) four or five Healeys drove through together- I remember a couple of red and black 100/6?s or Mk1 300?s and a Healey blue 100?left hand drive cars. I wondered if someone on the list was on a tour?Of course, they could have been French cars, but it?s quite rare to see vintage cars on the road here.Stephen, BJ8Sent from my iPad_______________________________________________Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeysHealeys at autox.team.nethttp://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeysUnsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://autox.team.net/pipermail/healeys/attachments/20250915/7535e13d/attachment.htm>

From roggrace at telus.net  Tue Sep 16 14:00:35 2025
From: roggrace at telus.net (Roger Grace)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2025 13:00:35 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] Overdrive
Message-ID: <CALPtYiMZZrOFtXC60VEG5Pmvn_MBfjdJkc7cypdqN5-CNzxwGQ@mail.gmail.com>

Have my OD partially dismantled to hopefully sort out two oil leaks. These
only show up when the GB and OD are really hot.
Queries:
(1) Is there a cross reference list with stud details - lengths in
particular. I believe that I have a few rogues and would like to correct
them. Have the correct part numbers but no details ? Any known suppliers ?
the usual suppliers don't list them.
(2) One of the leaks is at the rear annulus at the brake ring, where it is
clamped without gaskets between the 2 housings.So what goo is suggested ?
Was planning to use a thin smear of Permatex #2 (as suggested by a fellow
that repairs many OD) or Hylomar. Previously a red anaerobic sealant was
used - BTW it is a real bear to clean off.
rg
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://autox.team.net/pipermail/healeys/attachments/20250916/e1123b9b/attachment.htm>

From jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net  Tue Sep 16 14:43:56 2025
From: jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net (JSARCH)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2025 13:43:56 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] Overdrive
In-Reply-To: <CALPtYiMZZrOFtXC60VEG5Pmvn_MBfjdJkc7cypdqN5-CNzxwGQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALPtYiMZZrOFtXC60VEG5Pmvn_MBfjdJkc7cypdqN5-CNzxwGQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <016701dc274a$a0b51f40$e21f5dc0$@sbcglobal.net>

Are you seeking to find these studs?

 



 

https://autofarm.net/product-category/austin-healey-overdrive/

 

Autofarm provides great service. The prices are in Canadian dollars but the exchange rate is good for USD. They use the Canadian postal service to ship to the US border for customs clearance and the it ships via USPS. However, I am not sure about shipping to the US now that the small parcel tariff exemption has been canceled. 

 

Their ordering process is a bit strange. You need to place the order and they will email an invoice, from a different email address, with the shipping fees. If you decide to purchase the items, there is a link in the email that takes you to a payment website.

 

British Car Specialists might have the studs.

 

https://britishcarspecialists.com/store/index.php?category=TRANSMISSION <https://britishcarspecialists.com/store/index.php?category=TRANSMISSION&subcategory=OVERDRIVE> &subcategory=OVERDRIVE

 



John

 

 

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Roger Grace
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2025 1:01 PM
To: Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Healeys] Overdrive

 

Have my OD partially dismantled to hopefully sort out two oil leaks. These only show up when the GB and OD are really hot.

Queries:

(1) Is there a cross reference list with stud details - lengths in particular. I believe that I have a few rogues and would like to correct them. Have the correct part numbers but no details ? Any known suppliers ? the usual suppliers don't list them.

(2) One of the leaks is at the rear annulus at the brake ring, where it is clamped without gaskets between the 2 housings.So what goo is suggested ? Was planning to use a thin smear of Permatex #2 (as suggested by a fellow that repairs many OD) or Hylomar. Previously a red anaerobic sealant was used - BTW it is a real bear to clean off.

rg

-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://autox.team.net/pipermail/healeys/attachments/20250916/46c67a28/attachment.htm>
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: image001.png
Type: image/png
Size: 266579 bytes
Desc: not available
URL: <http://autox.team.net/pipermail/healeys/attachments/20250916/46c67a28/attachment.png>
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: image002.png
Type: image/png
Size: 136377 bytes
Desc: not available
URL: <http://autox.team.net/pipermail/healeys/attachments/20250916/46c67a28/attachment-0001.png>

From rantal243 at yahoo.com  Wed Sep 17 12:32:42 2025
From: rantal243 at yahoo.com (Richard Antal)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2025 18:32:42 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Healeys] radiator thermostat
References: <297982927.4753992.1758133962181.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <297982927.4753992.1758133962181@mail.yahoo.com>

Gents,? ? ?What is the desired coolant temperature for optimal engine performance? I've searched the tech articles and can find nothing that specifically answers that question. This summer my BJ8 seemed to run fine with a 160 thermostat which, according to the gauge which I've checked and found to be accurate, kept the coolant at around 165. Thanks to all who respond.rich antal
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://autox.team.net/pipermail/healeys/attachments/20250917/eb5f2d0d/attachment.htm>

From rmarkovich at aol.com  Wed Sep 17 13:08:00 2025
From: rmarkovich at aol.com (Robert Markovich)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2025 19:08:00 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Healeys] radiator thermostat
In-Reply-To: <297982927.4753992.1758133962181@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <297982927.4753992.1758133962181.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <297982927.4753992.1758133962181@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1458679789.4784944.1758136080533@mail.yahoo.com>

165 is the one I use


Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS


On Wednesday, September 17, 2025, 2:50 PM, Richard Antal via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:

Gents,? ? ?What is the desired coolant temperature for optimal engine performance? I've searched the tech articles and can find nothing that specifically answers that question. This summer my BJ8 seemed to run fine with a 160 thermostat which, according to the gauge which I've checked and found to be accurate, kept the coolant at around 165. Thanks to all who respond.rich antal_______________________________________________
Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html
Suggested annual donation? $12.75

Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys

Healeys at autox.team.net
http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys

Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rmarkovich at aol.com




-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://autox.team.net/pipermail/healeys/attachments/20250917/a88b0e39/attachment.htm>

From jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net  Wed Sep 17 13:33:32 2025
From: jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net (JSARCH)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2025 12:33:32 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] radiator thermostat
In-Reply-To: <297982927.4753992.1758133962181@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <297982927.4753992.1758133962181.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <297982927.4753992.1758133962181@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <008001dc2809$f4bf0b90$de3d22b0$@sbcglobal.net>

For an Austin-Healey the main purpose of the thermostat is to help the engine warm up faster by staying closed and allowing the coolant to reach a higher temperature faster. That said, the thermostat will gradually open as the coolant reaches the thermostats full open temperature. So, if you drive in a colder climate, you might want a thermostat with a higher opening temperature, say 180, in a warmer climate you might want the 160 or 165. I think I have a 160 in my car and it is fully warmed up and running without the choke engaged when the temperature gauge reads 190.

 

John Spaur

?62 BT7

 

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Richard Antal via Healeys
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2025 11:33 AM
To: Healeys healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> s
Subject: [Healeys] radiator thermostat

 

Gents,

     What is the desired coolant temperature for optimal engine performance? I've searched the tech articles and can find nothing that specifically answers that question. This summer my BJ8 seemed to run fine with a 160 thermostat which, according to the gauge which I've checked and found to be accurate, kept the coolant at around 165. Thanks to all who respond.

rich antal

-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://autox.team.net/pipermail/healeys/attachments/20250917/95dababd/attachment.htm>

From boyracer466 at gmail.com  Wed Sep 17 13:54:35 2025
From: boyracer466 at gmail.com (Richard Mayor)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2025 12:54:35 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] radiator thermostat
In-Reply-To: <1458679789.4784944.1758136080533@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1458679789.4784944.1758136080533@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1BB88ADA-A551-4291-8BEA-6013F1F9E276@gmail.com>

An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://autox.team.net/pipermail/healeys/attachments/20250917/da5990ac/attachment.htm>

From sbyers at ec.rr.com  Wed Sep 17 14:15:41 2025
From: sbyers at ec.rr.com (sbyers at ec.rr.com)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2025 16:15:41 -0400
Subject: [Healeys] radiator thermostat
In-Reply-To: <008001dc2809$f4bf0b90$de3d22b0$@sbcglobal.net>
References: <297982927.4753992.1758133962181.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <297982927.4753992.1758133962181@mail.yahoo.com>
 <008001dc2809$f4bf0b90$de3d22b0$@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <02d601dc280f$d849fbe0$88ddf3a0$@ec.rr.com>

I live in eastern  North Carolina where the winter temps are relatively mild, but the summers are hot and humid.
My BJ8 ran typically hot during the summer, especially when caught in traffic backups.  I tried a 160 thermostat and found that in winter I had to actually block off half the radiator with cardboard to get the engine up to normal running temperature.    I wanted a sleeved 180 thermostat, but the only sleeved item available at the time from the usual suppliers was a 160.
Eventually, I was able to obtain a 180 sleeved from Kees Ouderslijs who was a participant on this list (maybe still is?).  That was what really solved the problem.  Normal running temps winter and summer.  Not that it is for sale, but I later got another one for a spare and another for a friend.
 
Steve Byers
BJ8 Registry
AHCA Delegate at Large
Havelock, NC  USA
 
From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of JSARCH via Healeys
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2025 3:34 PM
To: 'Richard Antal' <rantal243 at yahoo.com>; 'Healeys' <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] radiator thermostat
 
For an Austin-Healey the main purpose of the thermostat is to help the engine warm up faster by staying closed and allowing the coolant to reach a higher temperature faster. That said, the thermostat will gradually open as the coolant reaches the thermostats full open temperature. So, if you drive in a colder climate, you might want a thermostat with a higher opening temperature, say 180, in a warmer climate you might want the 160 or 165. I think I have a 160 in my car and it is fully warmed up and running without the choke engaged when the temperature gauge reads 190.
 
John Spaur
?62 BT7
 
From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> > On Behalf Of Richard Antal via Healeys
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2025 11:33 AM
To: Healeys healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> s
Subject: [Healeys] radiator thermostat
 
Gents,
     What is the desired coolant temperature for optimal engine performance? I've searched the tech articles and can find nothing that specifically answers that question. This summer my BJ8 seemed to run fine with a 160 thermostat which, according to the gauge which I've checked and found to be accurate, kept the coolant at around 165. Thanks to all who respond.
rich antal
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://autox.team.net/pipermail/healeys/attachments/20250917/abbee182/attachment.htm>

From manifold at telus.net  Wed Sep 17 14:52:07 2025
From: manifold at telus.net (Harold Manifold)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2025 13:52:07 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] radiator thermostat
In-Reply-To: <1BB88ADA-A551-4291-8BEA-6013F1F9E276@gmail.com>
References: <1458679789.4784944.1758136080533@mail.yahoo.com>
 <1BB88ADA-A551-4291-8BEA-6013F1F9E276@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAFP1XCCnrjmtGmuFu1Z6WSndfXRjS+-zOq5bgvuntJwfUeDHLQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi All,

Thermostats always generate interesting discussions.

I use a 180-degree thermostat in my car. However, what's equally important
is how effectively the thermostat regulates the coolant temperature. A
thermostat that is fully closed or fully open is no longer actively
controlling the temperature. The normal operating range is typically the
opening temperature plus 20 degrees. For example, a 165-degree thermostat
should maintain the temperature between 165 and 185 degrees, while a
180-degree thermostat should keep it between 180 and 200 degrees.

If your current thermostat maintains the coolant temperature within its
specified range under normal driving conditions, then it's the correct one
for your needs.

Harold

On Wed, Sep 17, 2025 at 1:36?PM Richard Mayor <boyracer466 at gmail.com> wrote:

> 165 is too cold for good running.  Our engines run better in the 180 to
> 190 range.
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Sep 17, 2025, at 12:13?PM, Robert Markovich via Healeys <
> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> ? 165 is the one I use
>
>
> Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS
> <https://aolapp.onelink.me/eG2g?pid=NativePlacement&c=US_Acquisition_YMktg_320_EmailSignature_AttributionDL&af_sub1=Acquisition&af_sub2=US_YMktg&af_sub3=&af_sub4=100002473&af_sub5=SentFromNewAOLApp__Interstitial_&af_ios_store_cpp=ce85ce34-ad0f-4811-a92b-a172743b064e&af_android_url=https%3A%2F%2Fplay.google.com%2Fstore%2Fapps%2Fdetails%3Fid%3Dcom.aol.mobile.aolapp%26listing%3Demail_signature_attribution>
>
> On Wednesday, September 17, 2025, 2:50 PM, Richard Antal via Healeys <
> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> Gents,
>      What is the desired coolant temperature for optimal engine
> performance? I've searched the tech articles and can find nothing that
> specifically answers that question. This summer my BJ8 seemed to run fine
> with a 160 thermostat which, according to the gauge which I've checked and
> found to be accurate, kept the coolant at around 165. Thanks to all who
> respond.
> rich antal
> _______________________________________________
> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html
> Suggested annual donation  $12.75
>
> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys
> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys
>
> Healeys at autox.team.net
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys
>
> Unsubscribe/Manage:
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rmarkovich at aol.com
>
> _______________________________________________
> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html
> Suggested annual donation  $12.75
>
> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys
> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys
>
> Healeys at autox.team.net
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys
>
> Unsubscribe/Manage:
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/boyracer466 at gmail.com
>
> _______________________________________________
> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html
> Suggested annual donation  $12.75
>
> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys
> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys
>
> Healeys at autox.team.net
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys
>
> Unsubscribe/Manage:
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/manifold at telus.net
>
>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://autox.team.net/pipermail/healeys/attachments/20250917/8a0e29d6/attachment.htm>

From gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com  Wed Sep 17 15:07:17 2025
From: gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com (Richard Collins)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2025 21:07:17 +0000
Subject: [Healeys] radiator thermostat
In-Reply-To: <1BB88ADA-A551-4291-8BEA-6013F1F9E276@gmail.com>
References: <1458679789.4784944.1758136080533@mail.yahoo.com>
 <1BB88ADA-A551-4291-8BEA-6013F1F9E276@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <DM6PR12MB354670DB78F2E8379A745ADBBF17A@DM6PR12MB3546.namprd12.prod.outlook.com>

I have a 180 on my BN7
Regards,
Richard C


On Sep 17, 2025, at 15:36, Richard Mayor <boyracer466 at gmail.com> wrote:

?
165 is too cold for good running.  Our engines run better in the 180 to 190 range.


Sent from my iPad

On Sep 17, 2025, at 12:13?PM, Robert Markovich via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:

? 165 is the one I use


Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS<https://aolapp.onelink.me/eG2g?pid=NativePlacement&c=US_Acquisition_YMktg_320_EmailSignature_AttributionDL&af_sub1=Acquisition&af_sub2=US_YMktg&af_sub3=&af_sub4=100002473&af_sub5=SentFromNewAOLApp__Interstitial_&af_ios_store_cpp=ce85ce34-ad0f-4811-a92b-a172743b064e&af_android_url=https%3A%2F%2Fplay.google.com%2Fstore%2Fapps%2Fdetails%3Fid%3Dcom.aol.mobile.aolapp%26listing%3Demail_signature_attribution>


On Wednesday, September 17, 2025, 2:50 PM, Richard Antal via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:

Gents,
     What is the desired coolant temperature for optimal engine performance? I've searched the tech articles and can find nothing that specifically answers that question. This summer my BJ8 seemed to run fine with a 160 thermostat which, according to the gauge which I've checked and found to be accurate, kept the coolant at around 165. Thanks to all who respond.
rich antal
_______________________________________________
Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html
Suggested annual donation  $12.75

Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys

Healeys at autox.team.net<mailto:Healeys at autox.team.net>
http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys

Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rmarkovich at aol.com

_______________________________________________
Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html
Suggested annual donation  $12.75

Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys

Healeys at autox.team.net
http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys

Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/boyracer466 at gmail.com

_______________________________________________
Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html
Suggested annual donation  $12.75

Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys

Healeys at autox.team.net
http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys

Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com

-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://autox.team.net/pipermail/healeys/attachments/20250917/02607046/attachment.htm>

From goldengt at cal.net  Wed Sep 17 15:32:56 2025
From: goldengt at cal.net (Ken)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2025 14:32:56 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] radiator thermostat
In-Reply-To: <1BB88ADA-A551-4291-8BEA-6013F1F9E276@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4cRsST586nzSyRl1@allmail.cal.net>

I've used a 185 for 40 years all year round. It's good for the heater at night. It might compensate a little for the lack of a sleeve too.Ken Freese?65 bj8Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
-------- Original message --------From: Richard Mayor <boyracer466 at gmail.com> Date: 9/17/25  1:35 PM  (GMT-08:00) To: Robert Markovich <rmarkovich at aol.com> Cc: Richard Antal <rantal243 at yahoo.com>, Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [Healeys] radiator thermostat 165 is too cold for good running. ?Our engines run better in the 180 to 190 range. ??Sent from my iPadOn Sep 17, 2025, at 12:13?PM, Robert Markovich via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:?
165 is the one I useSent from the all new AOL app for iOSOn Wednesday, September 17, 2025, 2:50 PM, Richard Antal via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:Gents,? ? ?What is the desired coolant temperature for optimal engine performance? I've searched the tech articles and can find nothing that specifically answers that question. This summer my BJ8 seemed to run fine with a 160 thermostat which, according to the gauge which I've checked and found to be accurate, kept the coolant at around 165. Thanks to all who respond.rich antal_______________________________________________Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.htmlSuggested annual donation? $12.75Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeysHealeys at autox.team.nethttp://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeysUnsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rmarkovich at aol.com
_______________________________________________Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.htmlSuggested annual donation ?$12.75Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeysHealeys at autox.team.nethttp://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeysUnsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/boyracer466 at gmail.com
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://autox.team.net/pipermail/healeys/attachments/20250917/8bf0a57c/attachment.htm>

From jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net  Wed Sep 17 16:22:57 2025
From: jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net (JSARCH)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2025 15:22:57 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] radiator thermostat
In-Reply-To: <02d601dc280f$d849fbe0$88ddf3a0$@ec.rr.com>
References: <297982927.4753992.1758133962181.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <297982927.4753992.1758133962181@mail.yahoo.com>
 <008001dc2809$f4bf0b90$de3d22b0$@sbcglobal.net>
 <02d601dc280f$d849fbe0$88ddf3a0$@ec.rr.com>
Message-ID: <00d801dc2821$9f489c40$ddd9d4c0$@sbcglobal.net>

British Car Specialists have the 160 sleeved thermostat

 



 

John Spaur

 

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of sbyers--- via Healeys
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2025 1:16 PM
To: 'Healeys' <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] radiator thermostat

 

I live in eastern  North Carolina where the winter temps are relatively mild, but the summers are hot and humid.

My BJ8 ran typically hot during the summer, especially when caught in traffic backups.  I tried a 160 thermostat and found that in winter I had to actually block off half the radiator with cardboard to get the engine up to normal running temperature.    I wanted a sleeved 180 thermostat, but the only sleeved item available at the time from the usual suppliers was a 160.

Eventually, I was able to obtain a 180 sleeved from Kees Ouderslijs who was a participant on this list (maybe still is?).  That was what really solved the problem.  Normal running temps winter and summer.  Not that it is for sale, but I later got another one for a spare and another for a friend.

 

Steve Byers

BJ8 Registry

AHCA Delegate at Large

Havelock, NC  USA

 

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> > On Behalf Of JSARCH via Healeys
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2025 3:34 PM
To: 'Richard Antal' <rantal243 at yahoo.com <mailto:rantal243 at yahoo.com> >; 'Healeys' <healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> >
Subject: Re: [Healeys] radiator thermostat

 

For an Austin-Healey the main purpose of the thermostat is to help the engine warm up faster by staying closed and allowing the coolant to reach a higher temperature faster. That said, the thermostat will gradually open as the coolant reaches the thermostats full open temperature. So, if you drive in a colder climate, you might want a thermostat with a higher opening temperature, say 180, in a warmer climate you might want the 160 or 165. I think I have a 160 in my car and it is fully warmed up and running without the choke engaged when the temperature gauge reads 190.

 

John Spaur

?62 BT7

 

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> > On Behalf Of Richard Antal via Healeys
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2025 11:33 AM
To: Healeys healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> s
Subject: [Healeys] radiator thermostat

 

Gents,

     What is the desired coolant temperature for optimal engine performance? I've searched the tech articles and can find nothing that specifically answers that question. This summer my BJ8 seemed to run fine with a 160 thermostat which, according to the gauge which I've checked and found to be accurate, kept the coolant at around 165. Thanks to all who respond.

rich antal

-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://autox.team.net/pipermail/healeys/attachments/20250917/ced1652e/attachment.htm>
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: image001.png
Type: image/png
Size: 278978 bytes
Desc: not available
URL: <http://autox.team.net/pipermail/healeys/attachments/20250917/ced1652e/attachment.png>

From gradea1 at charter.net  Wed Sep 17 16:47:29 2025
From: gradea1 at charter.net (Hank Leach)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2025 22:47:29 +0000
Subject: [Healeys] radiator thermostat
Message-ID: <81fc3686-8c8e-3b76-72a8-a772bd37383f@charter.net>

An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://autox.team.net/pipermail/healeys/attachments/20250917/54c560d3/attachment.htm>

From boyracer466 at gmail.com  Wed Sep 17 17:09:14 2025
From: boyracer466 at gmail.com (richard mayor)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2025 16:09:14 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] radiator thermostat
In-Reply-To: <81fc3686-8c8e-3b76-72a8-a772bd37383f@charter.net>
References: <81fc3686-8c8e-3b76-72a8-a772bd37383f@charter.net>
Message-ID: <7908CE5C-AB3A-46BD-962B-F8C2B30558CC@gmail.com>

Hank makes a very good point about where to measure the water temp.  And to get an infrared temperature sensor.  I recently fired up a fresh V8 engine to break in the cam.  I had also bought a new water temp gauge with sensor.  The new  sensor was screwed into a port on the cylinder head.  As we were running the engine I saw the temp climb and approach 220 degrees but fortunately I had my infrared sensor.  The water temp was actually quite lower and I was able to take readings from various places in the system.  If I had relied solely on the gauge I would have freaked out and probably shut the engine down.

Just another example of the garbage that is being sold in the parts stores these days.   
 
Richard Mayor
boyracer466 at gmail.com



> On Sep 17, 2025, at 3:47?PM, Hank Leach <gradea1 at charter.net> wrote:
> 
> I would like to comment about the position of the temperature "sensor" found in the Healey. All of them-100s and 3000s measure the water/antifreeze temperature flowing thru the radiator. That is not necessarily the temperature of the engine itself. Using a heat detector gun (Harbor Freight) you can actually see the head, block and exhaust readings and they will be different than the degrees indicated which has been read in the water flowing and transferred down a long capillary tube to an analog gauge.
>  
> In contrast, most older American cars, and incidentally the Jensen-Healey, measure the temperature of the manifold, or the block, by electronic sensor to an analog gauge.
>  
> I'm sure todays' vehicles have more accurate measurements, but they don't tell us what that actual number is unless an icon illuminates on the dash indicating a problem with temperature. I guess that ancient type of measurement is what gives the Healey its charm. Be it Fahrenheit or Centigrade. Hank
> 
> -------------------- 
> 
> From: "Harold Manifold" <manifold at telus.net> 
> To: "Richard Mayor" <boyracer466 at gmail.com> 
> Cc: "Richard Antal" <rantal243 at yahoo.com>, "Healeys" <healeys at autox.team.net> 
> Sent: September 17, 2025 at 3:05 PM PDT 
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] radiator thermostat
> Hi All,
>  
> Thermostats always generate interesting discussions.
>  
> I use a 180-degree thermostat in my car. However, what's equally important is how effectively the thermostat regulates the coolant temperature. A thermostat that is fully closed or fully open is no longer actively controlling the temperature. The normal operating range is typically the opening temperature plus 20 degrees. For example, a 165-degree thermostat should maintain the temperature between 165 and 185 degrees, while a 180-degree thermostat should keep it between 180 and 200 degrees.
>  
> If your current thermostat maintains the coolant temperature within its specified range under normal driving conditions, then it's the correct one for your needs.
>  
> Harold
>  
> On Wed, Sep 17, 2025 at 1:36?PM Richard Mayor <boyracer466 at gmail.com <mailto:boyracer466 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 165 is too cold for good running.  Our engines run better in the 180 to 190 range.  
>>  
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>> On Sep 17, 2025, at 12:13?PM, Robert Markovich via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net>> wrote:
>> 
>> 165 is the one I use
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS <https://aolapp.onelink.me/eG2g?pid=NativePlacement&c=US_Acquisition_YMktg_320_EmailSignature_AttributionDL&af_sub1=Acquisition&af_sub2=US_YMktg&af_sub3=&af_sub4=100002473&af_sub5=SentFromNewAOLApp__Interstitial_&af_ios_store_cpp=ce85ce34-ad0f-4811-a92b-a172743b064e&af_android_url=https%3A%2F%2Fplay.google.com%2Fstore%2Fapps%2Fdetails%3Fid%3Dcom.aol.mobile.aolapp%26listing%3Demail_signature_attribution>
>> On Wednesday, September 17, 2025, 2:50 PM, Richard Antal via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net>> wrote:
>> 
>> Gents,
>>      What is the desired coolant temperature for optimal engine performance? I've searched the tech articles and can find nothing that specifically answers that question. This summer my BJ8 seemed to run fine with a 160 thermostat which, according to the gauge which I've checked and found to be accurate, kept the coolant at around 165. Thanks to all who respond.
>> rich antal
>> _______________________________________________
>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html
>> Suggested annual donation  $12.75
>> 
>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys
>> 
>> Healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:Healeys at autox.team.net>
>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys
>> 
>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rmarkovich at aol.com
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html
>> Suggested annual donation  $12.75
>> 
>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys
>> 
>> Healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:Healeys at autox.team.net>
>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys
>> 
>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/boyracer466 at gmail.com
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html
>> Suggested annual donation  $12.75
>> 
>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys
>> 
>> Healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:Healeys at autox.team.net>
>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys
>> 
>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/manifold at telus.net
>> 
> 
>  

-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://autox.team.net/pipermail/healeys/attachments/20250917/7578df5d/attachment.htm>

From michael.salter at gmail.com  Wed Sep 17 20:11:05 2025
From: michael.salter at gmail.com (Michael Salter)
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2025 02:11:05 +0000
Subject: [Healeys] radiator thermostat
In-Reply-To: <7908CE5C-AB3A-46BD-962B-F8C2B30558CC@gmail.com>
References: <81fc3686-8c8e-3b76-72a8-a772bd37383f@charter.net>
 <7908CE5C-AB3A-46BD-962B-F8C2B30558CC@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <SN7PR22MB3764F0071B2369FDA1569157A116A@SN7PR22MB3764.namprd22.prod.outlook.com>

Something else to remember is that the temperature bulb is located either in the top tank of the radiator 100's & 100/6 or directly below the thermostat housing where the coolant which has passed through the radiator enters the engine. This means that the coolant in the engine and exiting from the engine is probably significantly hotter.
Has anyone actually measured the temperature of the coolant as it enters the radiator at the bottom?
It could well be that magic 185?F that an engine apparently requires for best operation occurs at a significantly lower indicated temperature.

M



________________________________
From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of richard mayor <boyracer466 at gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2025 7:09:14 PM
To: Leach Hank <gradea1 at charter.net>
Cc: Richard Antal <rantal243 at yahoo.com>; Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] radiator thermostat

Hank makes a very good point about where to measure the water temp.  And to get an infrared temperature sensor.  I recently fired up a fresh V8 engine to break in the cam.  I had also bought a new water temp gauge with sensor.  The new  sensor was screwed into a port on the cylinder head.  As we were running the engine I saw the temp climb and approach 220 degrees but fortunately I had my infrared sensor.  The water temp was actually quite lower and I was able to take readings from various places in the system.  If I had relied solely on the gauge I would have freaked out and probably shut the engine down.

Just another example of the garbage that is being sold in the parts stores these days.

Richard Mayor
boyracer466 at gmail.com



On Sep 17, 2025, at 3:47?PM, Hank Leach <gradea1 at charter.net> wrote:

I would like to comment about the position of the temperature "sensor" found in the Healey. All of them-100s and 3000s measure the water/antifreeze temperature flowing thru the radiator. That is not necessarily the temperature of the engine itself. Using a heat detector gun (Harbor Freight) you can actually see the head, block and exhaust readings and they will be different than the degrees indicated which has been read in the water flowing and transferred down a long capillary tube to an analog gauge.

In contrast, most older American cars, and incidentally the Jensen-Healey, measure the temperature of the manifold, or the block, by electronic sensor to an analog gauge.

I'm sure todays' vehicles have more accurate measurements, but they don't tell us what that actual number is unless an icon illuminates on the dash indicating a problem with temperature. I guess that ancient type of measurement is what gives the Healey its charm. Be it Fahrenheit or Centigrade. Hank

--------------------

From: "Harold Manifold" <manifold at telus.net>
To: "Richard Mayor" <boyracer466 at gmail.com>
Cc: "Richard Antal" <rantal243 at yahoo.com>, "Healeys" <healeys at autox.team.net>
Sent: September 17, 2025 at 3:05 PM PDT
Subject: Re: [Healeys] radiator thermostat
Hi All,

Thermostats always generate interesting discussions.

I use a 180-degree thermostat in my car. However, what's equally important is how effectively the thermostat regulates the coolant temperature. A thermostat that is fully closed or fully open is no longer actively controlling the temperature. The normal operating range is typically the opening temperature plus 20 degrees. For example, a 165-degree thermostat should maintain the temperature between 165 and 185 degrees, while a 180-degree thermostat should keep it between 180 and 200 degrees.

If your current thermostat maintains the coolant temperature within its specified range under normal driving conditions, then it's the correct one for your needs.

Harold

On Wed, Sep 17, 2025 at 1:36?PM Richard Mayor <boyracer466 at gmail.com<mailto:boyracer466 at gmail.com>> wrote:
165 is too cold for good running.  Our engines run better in the 180 to 190 range.


Sent from my iPad

On Sep 17, 2025, at 12:13?PM, Robert Markovich via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net<mailto:healeys at autox.team.net>> wrote:

165 is the one I use


Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS<https://aolapp.onelink.me/eG2g?pid=NativePlacement&c=US_Acquisition_YMktg_320_EmailSignature_AttributionDL&af_sub1=Acquisition&af_sub2=US_YMktg&af_sub3=&af_sub4=100002473&af_sub5=SentFromNewAOLApp__Interstitial_&af_ios_store_cpp=ce85ce34-ad0f-4811-a92b-a172743b064e&af_android_url=https%3A%2F%2Fplay.google.com%2Fstore%2Fapps%2Fdetails%3Fid%3Dcom.aol.mobile.aolapp%26listing%3Demail_signature_attribution>


On Wednesday, September 17, 2025, 2:50 PM, Richard Antal via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net<mailto:healeys at autox.team.net>> wrote:

Gents,
     What is the desired coolant temperature for optimal engine performance? I've searched the tech articles and can find nothing that specifically answers that question. This summer my BJ8 seemed to run fine with a 160 thermostat which, according to the gauge which I've checked and found to be accurate, kept the coolant at around 165. Thanks to all who respond.
rich antal
_______________________________________________
Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html
Suggested annual donation  $12.75

Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys

Healeys at autox.team.net<mailto:Healeys at autox.team.net>
http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys

Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rmarkovich at aol.com

_______________________________________________
Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html
Suggested annual donation  $12.75

Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys

Healeys at autox.team.net<mailto:Healeys at autox.team.net>
http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys

Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/boyracer466 at gmail.com

_______________________________________________
Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html
Suggested annual donation  $12.75

Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys

Healeys at autox.team.net<mailto:Healeys at autox.team.net>
http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys

Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/manifold at telus.net



-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://autox.team.net/pipermail/healeys/attachments/20250918/335853cb/attachment.htm>

From roggrace at telus.net  Wed Sep 17 20:53:57 2025
From: roggrace at telus.net (Roger Grace)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2025 19:53:57 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] radiator thermostat
In-Reply-To: <SN7PR22MB3764F0071B2369FDA1569157A116A@SN7PR22MB3764.namprd22.prod.outlook.com>
References: <81fc3686-8c8e-3b76-72a8-a772bd37383f@charter.net>
 <7908CE5C-AB3A-46BD-962B-F8C2B30558CC@gmail.com>
 <SN7PR22MB3764F0071B2369FDA1569157A116A@SN7PR22MB3764.namprd22.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <CALPtYiN=k5AcVo6yMVGt06c7T2DtMHtcOOg8q4Xgx5OfkpYwDA@mail.gmail.com>

On my BJ8 I measure the coolant temp in the top hose.This is generally
about 10F less than the Smiths. I attribute this to the temp loss in the
hose ? Have calibrated this sensor with a mercury stick thermometer and it
is within a few degrees on the Smiths.  BTW hot coolant enters the rad.
from the top.
rg


On Wed, Sep 17, 2025 at 7:32?PM Michael Salter <michael.salter at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Something else to remember is that the temperature bulb is located either
> in the top tank of the radiator 100's & 100/6 or directly below the
> thermostat housing where the coolant which has passed through the radiator
> enters the engine. This means that the coolant in the engine and exiting
> from the engine is probably significantly hotter.
> Has anyone actually measured the temperature of the coolant as it enters
> the radiator at the bottom?
> It could well be that magic 185?F that an engine apparently requires for
> best operation occurs at a significantly lower indicated temperature.
>
> M
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of richard
> mayor <boyracer466 at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 17, 2025 7:09:14 PM
> *To:* Leach Hank <gradea1 at charter.net>
> *Cc:* Richard Antal <rantal243 at yahoo.com>; Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net
> >
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] radiator thermostat
>
> Hank makes a very good point about where to measure the water temp.  And
> to get an infrared temperature sensor.  I recently fired up a fresh V8
> engine to break in the cam.  I had also bought a new water temp gauge with
> sensor.  The new  sensor was screwed into a port on the cylinder head.  As
> we were running the engine I saw the temp climb and approach 220 degrees
> but fortunately I had my infrared sensor.  The water temp was actually
> quite lower and I was able to take readings from various places in the
> system.  If I had relied solely on the gauge I would have freaked out and
> probably shut the engine down.
>
> Just another example of the garbage that is being sold in the parts stores
> these days.
>
> Richard Mayor
> boyracer466 at gmail.com
>
>
>
> On Sep 17, 2025, at 3:47?PM, Hank Leach <gradea1 at charter.net> wrote:
>
> I would like to comment about the position of the temperature "sensor"
> found in the Healey. All of them-100s and 3000s measure the
> water/antifreeze temperature flowing thru the radiator. That is not
> necessarily the temperature of the engine itself. Using a heat detector gun
> (Harbor Freight) you can actually see the head, block and exhaust readings
> and they will be different than the degrees indicated which has been read
> in the water flowing and transferred down a long capillary tube to an
> analog gauge.
>
> In contrast, most older American cars, and incidentally the Jensen-Healey,
> measure the temperature of the manifold, or the block, by electronic sensor
> to an analog gauge.
>
> I'm sure todays' vehicles have more accurate measurements, but they don't
> tell us what that actual number is unless an icon illuminates on the dash
> indicating a problem with temperature. I guess that ancient type of
> measurement is what gives the Healey its charm. Be it Fahrenheit or
> Centigrade. Hank
>
> --------------------
>
> From: "Harold Manifold" <manifold at telus.net>
> To: "Richard Mayor" <boyracer466 at gmail.com>
> Cc: "Richard Antal" <rantal243 at yahoo.com>, "Healeys" <
> healeys at autox.team.net>
> Sent: September 17, 2025 at 3:05 PM PDT
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] radiator thermostat
> Hi All,
>
> Thermostats always generate interesting discussions.
>
> I use a 180-degree thermostat in my car. However, what's equally important
> is how effectively the thermostat regulates the coolant temperature. A
> thermostat that is fully closed or fully open is no longer actively
> controlling the temperature. The normal operating range is typically the
> opening temperature plus 20 degrees. For example, a 165-degree thermostat
> should maintain the temperature between 165 and 185 degrees, while a
> 180-degree thermostat should keep it between 180 and 200 degrees.
>
> If your current thermostat maintains the coolant temperature within its
> specified range under normal driving conditions, then it's the correct one
> for your needs.
>
> Harold
>
> On Wed, Sep 17, 2025 at 1:36?PM Richard Mayor <boyracer466 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> 165 is too cold for good running.  Our engines run better in the 180 to
> 190 range.
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Sep 17, 2025, at 12:13?PM, Robert Markovich via Healeys <
> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> 165 is the one I use
>
>
> Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS
> <https://aolapp.onelink.me/eG2g?pid=NativePlacement&c=US_Acquisition_YMktg_320_EmailSignature_AttributionDL&af_sub1=Acquisition&af_sub2=US_YMktg&af_sub3=&af_sub4=100002473&af_sub5=SentFromNewAOLApp__Interstitial_&af_ios_store_cpp=ce85ce34-ad0f-4811-a92b-a172743b064e&af_android_url=https%3A%2F%2Fplay.google.com%2Fstore%2Fapps%2Fdetails%3Fid%3Dcom.aol.mobile.aolapp%26listing%3Demail_signature_attribution>
>
> On Wednesday, September 17, 2025, 2:50 PM, Richard Antal via Healeys <
> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> Gents,
>      What is the desired coolant temperature for optimal engine
> performance? I've searched the tech articles and can find nothing that
> specifically answers that question. This summer my BJ8 seemed to run fine
> with a 160 thermostat which, according to the gauge which I've checked and
> found to be accurate, kept the coolant at around 165. Thanks to all who
> respond.
> rich antal
> _______________________________________________
> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html
> Suggested annual donation  $12.75
>
> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys
> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys
>
> Healeys at autox.team.net
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys
>
> Unsubscribe/Manage:
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rmarkovich at aol.com
>
> _______________________________________________
> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html
> Suggested annual donation  $12.75
>
> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys
> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys
>
> Healeys at autox.team.net
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys
>
> Unsubscribe/Manage:
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/boyracer466 at gmail.com
>
> _______________________________________________
> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html
> Suggested annual donation  $12.75
>
> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys
> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys
>
> Healeys at autox.team.net
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys
>
> Unsubscribe/Manage:
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/manifold at telus.net
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html
> Suggested annual donation  $12.75
>
> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys
> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys
>
> Healeys at autox.team.net
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys
>
> Unsubscribe/Manage:
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/roggrace at telus.net
>
>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://autox.team.net/pipermail/healeys/attachments/20250917/c4065a66/attachment.htm>

From jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net  Wed Sep 17 23:52:03 2025
From: jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net (JSARCH)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2025 22:52:03 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] radiator thermostat
In-Reply-To: <CAFP1XCCnrjmtGmuFu1Z6WSndfXRjS+-zOq5bgvuntJwfUeDHLQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1458679789.4784944.1758136080533@mail.yahoo.com>
 <1BB88ADA-A551-4291-8BEA-6013F1F9E276@gmail.com>
 <CAFP1XCCnrjmtGmuFu1Z6WSndfXRjS+-zOq5bgvuntJwfUeDHLQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <019a01dc2860$5ccb48b0$1661da10$@sbcglobal.net>

Hi Herold,

 

I am puzzled by your statement that a thermostat can maintain a coolant temperature of + 20 degrees. Once a thermostat has opened at its set temperature, at least for our 1950?s engine technology, I believe the thermostat cannot regulate the coolant temperature unless the operating conditions of the engine are radically changed because the coolant temperature would be regulated by the air flow through the radiator. To put it another way, once the thermostat is fully open the coolant temperature is regulated by the radiator, if the thermostat were to close the coolant temperature would be regulated by the engine temperature which could only be higher because of the combustion temperatures. 

 

John

 

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Harold Manifold
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2025 1:52 PM
To: Richard Mayor <boyracer466 at gmail.com>
Cc: Richard Antal <rantal243 at yahoo.com>; Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] radiator thermostat

 

Hi All,

 

Thermostats always generate interesting discussions.

 

I use a 180-degree thermostat in my car. However, what's equally important is how effectively the thermostat regulates the coolant temperature. A thermostat that is fully closed or fully open is no longer actively controlling the temperature. The normal operating range is typically the opening temperature plus 20 degrees. For example, a 165-degree thermostat should maintain the temperature between 165 and 185 degrees, while a 180-degree thermostat should keep it between 180 and 200 degrees.

 

If your current thermostat maintains the coolant temperature within its specified range under normal driving conditions, then it's the correct one for your needs.

 

Harold

 

On Wed, Sep 17, 2025 at 1:36?PM Richard Mayor <boyracer466 at gmail.com <mailto:boyracer466 at gmail.com> > wrote:

165 is too cold for good running.  Our engines run better in the 180 to 190 range.  

 

 

Sent from my iPad





On Sep 17, 2025, at 12:13?PM, Robert Markovich via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> > wrote:

? 165 is the one I use



 <https://aolapp.onelink.me/eG2g?pid=NativePlacement&c=US_Acquisition_YMktg_320_EmailSignature_AttributionDL&af_sub1=Acquisition&af_sub2=US_YMktg&af_sub3=&af_sub4=100002473&af_sub5=SentFromNewAOLApp__Interstitial_&af_ios_store_cpp=ce85ce34-ad0f-4811-a92b-a172743b064e&af_android_url=https%3A%2F%2Fplay.google.com%2Fstore%2Fapps%2Fdetails%3Fid%3Dcom.aol.mobile.aolapp%26listing%3Demail_signature_attribution> Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS

 

On Wednesday, September 17, 2025, 2:50 PM, Richard Antal via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> > wrote:

Gents,

     What is the desired coolant temperature for optimal engine performance? I've searched the tech articles and can find nothing that specifically answers that question. This summer my BJ8 seemed to run fine with a 160 thermostat which, according to the gauge which I've checked and found to be accurate, kept the coolant at around 165. Thanks to all who respond.

rich antal

_______________________________________________
Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html
Suggested annual donation  $12.75

Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys

Healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:Healeys at autox.team.net> 
http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys

Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rmarkovich at aol.com

_______________________________________________
Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html
Suggested annual donation  $12.75

Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys

Healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:Healeys at autox.team.net> 
http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys

Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/boyracer466 at gmail.com

_______________________________________________
Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html
Suggested annual donation  $12.75

Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys

Healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:Healeys at autox.team.net> 
http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys

Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/manifold at telus.net

-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://autox.team.net/pipermail/healeys/attachments/20250917/31f21126/attachment.htm>

From michael.salter at gmail.com  Thu Sep 18 04:51:40 2025
From: michael.salter at gmail.com (Michael Salter)
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2025 10:51:40 +0000
Subject: [Healeys] radiator thermostat
In-Reply-To: <CALPtYiN=k5AcVo6yMVGt06c7T2DtMHtcOOg8q4Xgx5OfkpYwDA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <81fc3686-8c8e-3b76-72a8-a772bd37383f@charter.net>
 <7908CE5C-AB3A-46BD-962B-F8C2B30558CC@gmail.com>
 <SN7PR22MB3764F0071B2369FDA1569157A116A@SN7PR22MB3764.namprd22.prod.outlook.com>
 <CALPtYiN=k5AcVo6yMVGt06c7T2DtMHtcOOg8q4Xgx5OfkpYwDA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <SN7PR22MB3764DA0460F50F580BBC693CA116A@SN7PR22MB3764.namprd22.prod.outlook.com>

BTW hot coolant enters the rad. from the top.
Yes, correct. I guess my dementia is progressing.


________________________________
From: Roger Grace <roggrace at telus.net>
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2025 10:53:57 PM
To: Michael Salter <michael.salter at gmail.com>
Cc: Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] radiator thermostat

On my BJ8 I measure the coolant temp in the top hose.This is generally about 10F less than the Smiths. I attribute this to the temp loss in the hose ? Have calibrated this sensor with a mercury stick thermometer and it is within a few degrees on the Smiths.  BTW hot coolant enters the rad. from the top.
rg


On Wed, Sep 17, 2025 at 7:32?PM Michael Salter <michael.salter at gmail.com<mailto:michael.salter at gmail.com>> wrote:
Something else to remember is that the temperature bulb is located either in the top tank of the radiator 100's & 100/6 or directly below the thermostat housing where the coolant which has passed through the radiator enters the engine. This means that the coolant in the engine and exiting from the engine is probably significantly hotter.
Has anyone actually measured the temperature of the coolant as it enters the radiator at the bottom?
It could well be that magic 185?F that an engine apparently requires for best operation occurs at a significantly lower indicated temperature.

M



________________________________
From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net<mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net>> on behalf of richard mayor <boyracer466 at gmail.com<mailto:boyracer466 at gmail.com>>
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2025 7:09:14 PM
To: Leach Hank <gradea1 at charter.net<mailto:gradea1 at charter.net>>
Cc: Richard Antal <rantal243 at yahoo.com<mailto:rantal243 at yahoo.com>>; Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net<mailto:healeys at autox.team.net>>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] radiator thermostat

Hank makes a very good point about where to measure the water temp.  And to get an infrared temperature sensor.  I recently fired up a fresh V8 engine to break in the cam.  I had also bought a new water temp gauge with sensor.  The new  sensor was screwed into a port on the cylinder head.  As we were running the engine I saw the temp climb and approach 220 degrees but fortunately I had my infrared sensor.  The water temp was actually quite lower and I was able to take readings from various places in the system.  If I had relied solely on the gauge I would have freaked out and probably shut the engine down.

Just another example of the garbage that is being sold in the parts stores these days.

Richard Mayor
boyracer466 at gmail.com<mailto:boyracer466 at gmail.com>



On Sep 17, 2025, at 3:47?PM, Hank Leach <gradea1 at charter.net<mailto:gradea1 at charter.net>> wrote:

I would like to comment about the position of the temperature "sensor" found in the Healey. All of them-100s and 3000s measure the water/antifreeze temperature flowing thru the radiator. That is not necessarily the temperature of the engine itself. Using a heat detector gun (Harbor Freight) you can actually see the head, block and exhaust readings and they will be different than the degrees indicated which has been read in the water flowing and transferred down a long capillary tube to an analog gauge.

In contrast, most older American cars, and incidentally the Jensen-Healey, measure the temperature of the manifold, or the block, by electronic sensor to an analog gauge.

I'm sure todays' vehicles have more accurate measurements, but they don't tell us what that actual number is unless an icon illuminates on the dash indicating a problem with temperature. I guess that ancient type of measurement is what gives the Healey its charm. Be it Fahrenheit or Centigrade. Hank

--------------------

From: "Harold Manifold" <manifold at telus.net<mailto:manifold at telus.net>>
To: "Richard Mayor" <boyracer466 at gmail.com<mailto:boyracer466 at gmail.com>>
Cc: "Richard Antal" <rantal243 at yahoo.com<mailto:rantal243 at yahoo.com>>, "Healeys" <healeys at autox.team.net<mailto:healeys at autox.team.net>>
Sent: September 17, 2025 at 3:05 PM PDT
Subject: Re: [Healeys] radiator thermostat
Hi All,

Thermostats always generate interesting discussions.

I use a 180-degree thermostat in my car. However, what's equally important is how effectively the thermostat regulates the coolant temperature. A thermostat that is fully closed or fully open is no longer actively controlling the temperature. The normal operating range is typically the opening temperature plus 20 degrees. For example, a 165-degree thermostat should maintain the temperature between 165 and 185 degrees, while a 180-degree thermostat should keep it between 180 and 200 degrees.

If your current thermostat maintains the coolant temperature within its specified range under normal driving conditions, then it's the correct one for your needs.

Harold

On Wed, Sep 17, 2025 at 1:36?PM Richard Mayor <boyracer466 at gmail.com<mailto:boyracer466 at gmail.com>> wrote:
165 is too cold for good running.  Our engines run better in the 180 to 190 range.


Sent from my iPad

On Sep 17, 2025, at 12:13?PM, Robert Markovich via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net<mailto:healeys at autox.team.net>> wrote:

165 is the one I use


Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS<https://aolapp.onelink.me/eG2g?pid=NativePlacement&c=US_Acquisition_YMktg_320_EmailSignature_AttributionDL&af_sub1=Acquisition&af_sub2=US_YMktg&af_sub3=&af_sub4=100002473&af_sub5=SentFromNewAOLApp__Interstitial_&af_ios_store_cpp=ce85ce34-ad0f-4811-a92b-a172743b064e&af_android_url=https%3A%2F%2Fplay.google.com%2Fstore%2Fapps%2Fdetails%3Fid%3Dcom.aol.mobile.aolapp%26listing%3Demail_signature_attribution>


On Wednesday, September 17, 2025, 2:50 PM, Richard Antal via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net<mailto:healeys at autox.team.net>> wrote:

Gents,
     What is the desired coolant temperature for optimal engine performance? I've searched the tech articles and can find nothing that specifically answers that question. This summer my BJ8 seemed to run fine with a 160 thermostat which, according to the gauge which I've checked and found to be accurate, kept the coolant at around 165. Thanks to all who respond.
rich antal
_______________________________________________
Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html
Suggested annual donation  $12.75

Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys

Healeys at autox.team.net<mailto:Healeys at autox.team.net>
http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys

Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rmarkovich at aol.com

_______________________________________________
Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html
Suggested annual donation  $12.75

Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys

Healeys at autox.team.net<mailto:Healeys at autox.team.net>
http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys

Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/boyracer466 at gmail.com

_______________________________________________
Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html
Suggested annual donation  $12.75

Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys

Healeys at autox.team.net<mailto:Healeys at autox.team.net>
http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys

Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/manifold at telus.net



_______________________________________________
Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html
Suggested annual donation  $12.75

Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys

Healeys at autox.team.net<mailto:Healeys at autox.team.net>
http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys

Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/roggrace at telus.net

-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://autox.team.net/pipermail/healeys/attachments/20250918/9214ab49/attachment.htm>

From healey.nut at gmail.com  Thu Sep 18 08:23:29 2025
From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist)
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2025 10:23:29 -0400
Subject: [Healeys] radiator thermostat
In-Reply-To: <SN7PR22MB3764DA0460F50F580BBC693CA116A@SN7PR22MB3764.namprd22.prod.outlook.com>
References: <81fc3686-8c8e-3b76-72a8-a772bd37383f@charter.net>
 <7908CE5C-AB3A-46BD-962B-F8C2B30558CC@gmail.com>
 <SN7PR22MB3764F0071B2369FDA1569157A116A@SN7PR22MB3764.namprd22.prod.outlook.com>
 <CALPtYiN=k5AcVo6yMVGt06c7T2DtMHtcOOg8q4Xgx5OfkpYwDA@mail.gmail.com>
 <SN7PR22MB3764DA0460F50F580BBC693CA116A@SN7PR22MB3764.namprd22.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <CAFBXTkLuuWTmuLq=2QHXHH4hGN+Qn+mSA+vavzD_i05fatYiOQ@mail.gmail.com>

Incidentally, there's no point using a sleeved thermostat with the 100
motor, but may have benefit for the 3000 motor.  Just beware that some
modern sleeved thermostats operate the sleeve in reverse to the old bellows
thermostats, so they may not particularly make much difference.

For my BJ8, 165 was ideal for all year running in Northern California.  had
80k miles on the car with no wear on the motor.

The main benefit with the sleeved thermostat is that it has a wider opening
for moving water.  Wahler thermostats have a nice wide opening too, if you
can find them.

Best,

Alan



On Thu, Sep 18, 2025 at 7:07?AM Michael Salter <michael.salter at gmail.com>
wrote:

> BTW hot coolant enters the rad. from the top.
> Yes, correct. I guess my dementia is progressing.
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Roger Grace <roggrace at telus.net>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 17, 2025 10:53:57 PM
> *To:* Michael Salter <michael.salter at gmail.com>
> *Cc:* Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] radiator thermostat
>
> On my BJ8 I measure the coolant temp in the top hose.This is generally
> about 10F less than the Smiths. I attribute this to the temp loss in the
> hose ? Have calibrated this sensor with a mercury stick thermometer and it
> is within a few degrees on the Smiths.  BTW hot coolant enters the rad.
> from the top.
> rg
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 17, 2025 at 7:32?PM Michael Salter <michael.salter at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Something else to remember is that the temperature bulb is located either
> in the top tank of the radiator 100's & 100/6 or directly below the
> thermostat housing where the coolant which has passed through the radiator
> enters the engine. This means that the coolant in the engine and exiting
> from the engine is probably significantly hotter.
> Has anyone actually measured the temperature of the coolant as it enters
> the radiator at the bottom?
> It could well be that magic 185?F that an engine apparently requires for
> best operation occurs at a significantly lower indicated temperature.
>
> M
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of richard
> mayor <boyracer466 at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 17, 2025 7:09:14 PM
> *To:* Leach Hank <gradea1 at charter.net>
> *Cc:* Richard Antal <rantal243 at yahoo.com>; Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net
> >
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] radiator thermostat
>
> Hank makes a very good point about where to measure the water temp.  And
> to get an infrared temperature sensor.  I recently fired up a fresh V8
> engine to break in the cam.  I had also bought a new water temp gauge with
> sensor.  The new  sensor was screwed into a port on the cylinder head.  As
> we were running the engine I saw the temp climb and approach 220 degrees
> but fortunately I had my infrared sensor.  The water temp was actually
> quite lower and I was able to take readings from various places in the
> system.  If I had relied solely on the gauge I would have freaked out and
> probably shut the engine down.
>
> Just another example of the garbage that is being sold in the parts stores
> these days.
>
> Richard Mayor
> boyracer466 at gmail.com
>
>
>
> On Sep 17, 2025, at 3:47?PM, Hank Leach <gradea1 at charter.net> wrote:
>
> I would like to comment about the position of the temperature "sensor"
> found in the Healey. All of them-100s and 3000s measure the
> water/antifreeze temperature flowing thru the radiator. That is not
> necessarily the temperature of the engine itself. Using a heat detector gun
> (Harbor Freight) you can actually see the head, block and exhaust readings
> and they will be different than the degrees indicated which has been read
> in the water flowing and transferred down a long capillary tube to an
> analog gauge.
>
> In contrast, most older American cars, and incidentally the Jensen-Healey,
> measure the temperature of the manifold, or the block, by electronic sensor
> to an analog gauge.
>
> I'm sure todays' vehicles have more accurate measurements, but they don't
> tell us what that actual number is unless an icon illuminates on the dash
> indicating a problem with temperature. I guess that ancient type of
> measurement is what gives the Healey its charm. Be it Fahrenheit or
> Centigrade. Hank
>
> --------------------
>
> From: "Harold Manifold" <manifold at telus.net>
> To: "Richard Mayor" <boyracer466 at gmail.com>
> Cc: "Richard Antal" <rantal243 at yahoo.com>, "Healeys" <
> healeys at autox.team.net>
> Sent: September 17, 2025 at 3:05 PM PDT
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] radiator thermostat
> Hi All,
>
> Thermostats always generate interesting discussions.
>
> I use a 180-degree thermostat in my car. However, what's equally important
> is how effectively the thermostat regulates the coolant temperature. A
> thermostat that is fully closed or fully open is no longer actively
> controlling the temperature. The normal operating range is typically the
> opening temperature plus 20 degrees. For example, a 165-degree thermostat
> should maintain the temperature between 165 and 185 degrees, while a
> 180-degree thermostat should keep it between 180 and 200 degrees.
>
> If your current thermostat maintains the coolant temperature within its
> specified range under normal driving conditions, then it's the correct one
> for your needs.
>
> Harold
>
> On Wed, Sep 17, 2025 at 1:36?PM Richard Mayor <boyracer466 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> 165 is too cold for good running.  Our engines run better in the 180 to
> 190 range.
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Sep 17, 2025, at 12:13?PM, Robert Markovich via Healeys <
> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> 165 is the one I use
>
>
> Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS
> <https://aolapp.onelink.me/eG2g?pid=NativePlacement&c=US_Acquisition_YMktg_320_EmailSignature_AttributionDL&af_sub1=Acquisition&af_sub2=US_YMktg&af_sub3=&af_sub4=100002473&af_sub5=SentFromNewAOLApp__Interstitial_&af_ios_store_cpp=ce85ce34-ad0f-4811-a92b-a172743b064e&af_android_url=https%3A%2F%2Fplay.google.com%2Fstore%2Fapps%2Fdetails%3Fid%3Dcom.aol.mobile.aolapp%26listing%3Demail_signature_attribution>
>
> On Wednesday, September 17, 2025, 2:50 PM, Richard Antal via Healeys <
> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> Gents,
>      What is the desired coolant temperature for optimal engine
> performance? I've searched the tech articles and can find nothing that
> specifically answers that question. This summer my BJ8 seemed to run fine
> with a 160 thermostat which, according to the gauge which I've checked and
> found to be accurate, kept the coolant at around 165. Thanks to all who
> respond.
> rich antal
> _______________________________________________
> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html
> Suggested annual donation  $12.75
>
> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys
> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys
>
> Healeys at autox.team.net
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys
>
> Unsubscribe/Manage:
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rmarkovich at aol.com
>
> _______________________________________________
> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html
> Suggested annual donation  $12.75
>
> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys
> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys
>
> Healeys at autox.team.net
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys
>
> Unsubscribe/Manage:
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/boyracer466 at gmail.com
>
> _______________________________________________
> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html
> Suggested annual donation  $12.75
>
> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys
> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys
>
> Healeys at autox.team.net
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys
>
> Unsubscribe/Manage:
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/manifold at telus.net
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html
> Suggested annual donation  $12.75
>
> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys
> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys
>
> Healeys at autox.team.net
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys
>
> Unsubscribe/Manage:
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/roggrace at telus.net
>
> _______________________________________________
> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html
> Suggested annual donation  $12.75
>
> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys
> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys
>
> Healeys at autox.team.net
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys
>
> Unsubscribe/Manage:
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com
>
>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://autox.team.net/pipermail/healeys/attachments/20250918/d423d4f0/attachment.htm>

From healeydoc at sbcglobal.net  Thu Sep 18 09:37:07 2025
From: healeydoc at sbcglobal.net (David Nock)
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2025 08:37:07 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] radiator thermostat
In-Reply-To: <1BB88ADA-A551-4291-8BEA-6013F1F9E276@gmail.com>
References: <1458679789.4784944.1758136080533@mail.yahoo.com>
 <1BB88ADA-A551-4291-8BEA-6013F1F9E276@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <ec725b6b-a1e5-4b3e-b3ae-d953261a74e8@sbcglobal.net>

The thermostat does not control the high end temperature of the engine. 
Its job is to get the engine up to an operating temperature as soon as 
possible. Then in maintains the low end temperature of the engine. Once 
the thermostat is open the engine temperature is controlled by the 
radiator, radiator fan and air flow.

On the 6 cylinder engine there is a sleeve attached to the thermostat, 
that blocks off a bypass in the cylinder head. The bypass is there to 
allow the coolant to flow when the thermostat is closed. Once the 
thermostat is open the sleeve is there to block the bypass allowing ALL 
the coolant to flow thru the radiator.

David Nock

British Car Specialists


On 9/17/2025 12:54 PM, Richard Mayor wrote:
> 165 is too cold for good running. ?Our engines run better in the 180 
> to 190 range.
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On Sep 17, 2025, at 12:13?PM, Robert Markovich via Healeys 
>> <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>
>> ? 165 is the one I use
>>
>>
>> Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS 
>> <https://aolapp.onelink.me/eG2g?pid=NativePlacement&c=US_Acquisition_YMktg_320_EmailSignature_AttributionDL&af_sub1=Acquisition&af_sub2=US_YMktg&af_sub3=&af_sub4=100002473&af_sub5=SentFromNewAOLApp__Interstitial_&af_ios_store_cpp=ce85ce34-ad0f-4811-a92b-a172743b064e&af_android_url=https%3A%2F%2Fplay.google.com%2Fstore%2Fapps%2Fdetails%3Fid%3Dcom.aol.mobile.aolapp%26listing%3Demail_signature_attribution>
>>
>> On Wednesday, September 17, 2025, 2:50 PM, Richard Antal via Healeys 
>> <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>
>>     Gents,
>>     ? ? ?What is the desired coolant temperature for optimal engine
>>     performance? I've searched the tech articles and can find nothing
>>     that specifically answers that question. This summer my BJ8
>>     seemed to run fine with a 160 thermostat which, according to the
>>     gauge which I've checked and found to be accurate, kept the
>>     coolant at around 165. Thanks to all who respond.
>>     rich antal
>>     _______________________________________________
>>     Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html
>>     Suggested annual donation? $12.75
>>
>>     Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys
>>     http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys
>>
>>     Healeys at autox.team.net
>>     http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys
>>
>>     Unsubscribe/Manage:
>>     http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rmarkovich at aol.com
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html
>> Suggested annual donation ?$12.75
>>
>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys 
>> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys
>>
>> Healeys at autox.team.net
>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys
>>
>> Unsubscribe/Manage: 
>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/boyracer466 at gmail.com
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Support Team.Nethttp://www.team.net/donate.html
> Suggested annual donation  $12.75
>
> Archive:http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys
>
> Healeys at autox.team.net
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys
>
> Unsubscribe/Manage:http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeydoc at sbcglobal.net
>
-- 
David Nock
British Car Specialists
Stockton Ca
209 948 8767
www.britishcarspecialists.com
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://autox.team.net/pipermail/healeys/attachments/20250918/341077c9/attachment.htm>

From m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca  Thu Sep 18 10:24:27 2025
From: m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca (m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca)
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2025 12:24:27 -0400
Subject: [Healeys] radiator thermostat
In-Reply-To: <ec725b6b-a1e5-4b3e-b3ae-d953261a74e8@sbcglobal.net>
References: <1458679789.4784944.1758136080533@mail.yahoo.com>
 <1BB88ADA-A551-4291-8BEA-6013F1F9E276@gmail.com>
 <ec725b6b-a1e5-4b3e-b3ae-d953261a74e8@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <00c401dc28b8$b4e7b5d0$1eb72170$@sympatico.ca>

I have run one of BCS (David?s) sleeved 160 thermostats in my BT7 for decades and I works perfectly.

 

Just say?n,

 

Mirek

 

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of David Nock via Healeys
Sent: September 18, 2025 11:37 AM
To: Richard Mayor <boyracer466 at gmail.com>; Robert Markovich <rmarkovich at aol.com>
Cc: Richard Antal <rantal243 at yahoo.com>; Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] radiator thermostat

 

The thermostat does not control the high end temperature of the engine. Its job is to get the engine up to an operating temperature as soon as possible. Then in maintains the low end temperature of the engine. Once the thermostat is open the engine temperature is controlled by the radiator, radiator fan and air flow.

On the 6 cylinder engine there is a sleeve attached to the thermostat, that blocks off a bypass in the cylinder head. The bypass is there to allow the coolant to flow when the thermostat is closed. Once the thermostat is open the sleeve is there to block the bypass allowing ALL the coolant to flow thru the radiator. 

David Nock

British Car Specialists

 

On 9/17/2025 12:54 PM, Richard Mayor wrote:

165 is too cold for good running.  Our engines run better in the 180 to 190 range.   

 

 

Sent from my iPad





On Sep 17, 2025, at 12:13?PM, Robert Markovich via Healeys  <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:

? 165 is the one I use



 <https://aolapp.onelink.me/eG2g?pid=NativePlacement&c=US_Acquisition_YMktg_320_EmailSignature_AttributionDL&af_sub1=Acquisition&af_sub2=US_YMktg&af_sub3=&af_sub4=100002473&af_sub5=SentFromNewAOLApp__Interstitial_&af_ios_store_cpp=ce85ce34-ad0f-4811-a92b-a172743b064e&af_android_url=https%3A%2F%2Fplay.google.com%2Fstore%2Fapps%2Fdetails%3Fid%3Dcom.aol.mobile.aolapp%26listing%3Demail_signature_attribution> Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS

 

On Wednesday, September 17, 2025, 2:50 PM, Richard Antal via Healeys  <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:

Gents,

     What is the desired coolant temperature for optimal engine performance? I've searched the tech articles and can find nothing that specifically answers that question. This summer my BJ8 seemed to run fine with a 160 thermostat which, according to the gauge which I've checked and found to be accurate, kept the coolant at around 165. Thanks to all who respond.

rich antal

_______________________________________________
Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html
Suggested annual donation  $12.75

Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys

Healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:Healeys at autox.team.net> 
http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys

Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rmarkovich at aol.com

_______________________________________________
Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html
Suggested annual donation  $12.75

Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys

Healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:Healeys at autox.team.net> 
http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys

Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/boyracer466 at gmail.com





_______________________________________________
Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html
Suggested annual donation  $12.75
 
Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys
 
Healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:Healeys at autox.team.net> 
http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys
 
Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeydoc at sbcglobal.net
 

-- 
David Nock
British Car Specialists
Stockton Ca  
209 948 8767
www.britishcarspecialists.com <http://www.britishcarspecialists.com> 
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://autox.team.net/pipermail/healeys/attachments/20250918/8be11dca/attachment.htm>

From manifold at telus.net  Thu Sep 18 11:38:24 2025
From: manifold at telus.net (Harold Manifold)
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2025 10:38:24 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] radiator thermostat
In-Reply-To: <ec725b6b-a1e5-4b3e-b3ae-d953261a74e8@sbcglobal.net>
References: <1458679789.4784944.1758136080533@mail.yahoo.com>
 <1BB88ADA-A551-4291-8BEA-6013F1F9E276@gmail.com>
 <ec725b6b-a1e5-4b3e-b3ae-d953261a74e8@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <CAFP1XCBQKL6v2xmcFS5=v5430PahW0C9G8qOK_d5+u4nV80X_A@mail.gmail.com>

Hi All,

Thermostats and Healey cooling always generate interesting discussions, and
I'd like to clarify my previous comments on what controls (or often doesn't
control) the coolant temperature.

To summarize some of the points made: Coolant flows down the radiator, out
the bottom hose, and into the water pump. It's then pumped into the engine
block's cooling jacket. The goal is to direct the coolest fluid to the
hottest part of the engine for optimal heat transfer (i.e., the largest
delta T). The coolant, having absorbed heat, then moves up to the cylinder
head, through the thermostat, and back to the radiator. This process is
known as thermosiphoning, where heated coolant rises through the engine and
falls as it cools in the radiator.

The heat generated by the engine is a function of the combustion process
(timing, carburation, etc.) and horsepower efficiency loss. More horsepower
output means more heat transferred to the coolant. The radiator removes
this heat, but its effectiveness is proportional to the difference between
the air and coolant temperatures.

Assuming the radiator has sufficient capacity to remove heat, if the
coolant temperature the thermostat "sees" is less than its opening
temperature plus 20 degrees, the thermostat will slightly close to restrict
flow to the radiator. In this scenario, the thermostat is actively
controlling the coolant temperature. However, if the coolant temperature
exceeds 20 degrees above the thermostat's opening temperature, then the
coolant temperature is primarily a function of the incoming air
temperature, and the thermostat is no longer a factor. In such cases, the
coolant temperature is effectively uncontrolled by the thermostat.

To add to the discussion, the engine fan has minimal effect at speeds
greater than 15 miles per hour.

Harold

On Thu, Sep 18, 2025 at 8:46?AM David Nock via Healeys <
healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:

> The thermostat does not control the high end temperature of the engine.
> Its job is to get the engine up to an operating temperature as soon as
> possible. Then in maintains the low end temperature of the engine. Once the
> thermostat is open the engine temperature is controlled by the radiator,
> radiator fan and air flow.
>
> On the 6 cylinder engine there is a sleeve attached to the thermostat,
> that blocks off a bypass in the cylinder head. The bypass is there to allow
> the coolant to flow when the thermostat is closed. Once the thermostat is
> open the sleeve is there to block the bypass allowing ALL the coolant to
> flow thru the radiator.
>
> David Nock
>
> British Car Specialists
>
>
> On 9/17/2025 12:54 PM, Richard Mayor wrote:
>
> 165 is too cold for good running.  Our engines run better in the 180 to
> 190 range.
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Sep 17, 2025, at 12:13?PM, Robert Markovich via Healeys
> <healeys at autox.team.net> <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> ? 165 is the one I use
>
>
> Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS
> <https://aolapp.onelink.me/eG2g?pid=NativePlacement&c=US_Acquisition_YMktg_320_EmailSignature_AttributionDL&af_sub1=Acquisition&af_sub2=US_YMktg&af_sub3=&af_sub4=100002473&af_sub5=SentFromNewAOLApp__Interstitial_&af_ios_store_cpp=ce85ce34-ad0f-4811-a92b-a172743b064e&af_android_url=https%3A%2F%2Fplay.google.com%2Fstore%2Fapps%2Fdetails%3Fid%3Dcom.aol.mobile.aolapp%26listing%3Demail_signature_attribution>
>
> On Wednesday, September 17, 2025, 2:50 PM, Richard Antal via Healeys
> <healeys at autox.team.net> <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> Gents,
>      What is the desired coolant temperature for optimal engine
> performance? I've searched the tech articles and can find nothing that
> specifically answers that question. This summer my BJ8 seemed to run fine
> with a 160 thermostat which, according to the gauge which I've checked and
> found to be accurate, kept the coolant at around 165. Thanks to all who
> respond.
> rich antal
> _______________________________________________
> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html
> Suggested annual donation  $12.75
>
> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys
> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys
>
> Healeys at autox.team.net
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys
>
> Unsubscribe/Manage:
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rmarkovich at aol.com
>
> _______________________________________________
> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html
> Suggested annual donation  $12.75
>
> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys
> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys
>
> Healeys at autox.team.net
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys
>
> Unsubscribe/Manage:
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/boyracer466 at gmail.com
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html
> Suggested annual donation  $12.75
>
> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys
> Healeys at autox.team.nethttp://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys
>
> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeydoc at sbcglobal.net
>
> --
> David Nock
> British Car Specialists
> Stockton Ca
> 209 948 8767www.britishcarspecialists.com
>
> _______________________________________________
> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html
> Suggested annual donation  $12.75
>
> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys
> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys
>
> Healeys at autox.team.net
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys
>
> Unsubscribe/Manage:
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/manifold at telus.net
>
>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://autox.team.net/pipermail/healeys/attachments/20250918/51b1592a/attachment.htm>

From simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com  Thu Sep 18 14:15:53 2025
From: simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com (Simon Lachlan)
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2025 21:15:53 +0100
Subject: [Healeys] radiator thermostat
In-Reply-To: <CAFP1XCBQKL6v2xmcFS5=v5430PahW0C9G8qOK_d5+u4nV80X_A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFP1XCBQKL6v2xmcFS5=v5430PahW0C9G8qOK_d5+u4nV80X_A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <092F24E8-280A-4EC3-B888-A3A259AB784F@alexarevel.plus.com>

An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://autox.team.net/pipermail/healeys/attachments/20250918/23e8d7dc/attachment.htm>

From mark at bradakis.com  Thu Sep 18 20:49:35 2025
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark Bradakis)
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2025 20:49:35 -0600
Subject: [Healeys] AEC 3475? laygear?
Message-ID: <7f101cda-e044-4485-a4ce-4f88601d1d30@bradakis.com>

I have this item in my garage, been gathering dust for many years.  I 
would love to see it go to a good home, hopefully get some side shift 
transmission back on the road.  It has AEC 3475 written on the side. 
But from what I have found out is that the AEC 3475 has a bore of 0.855 
inches.  This gear has a bore close to 1 inch, like 0.990, give or take.
And the AEC 3649 laygear is listed as having a bore of 0.985 inches. 
Which is the gear fitted to BN7 side shift gearboxes, as I recall.

So, wonder exactly what I have here?  I want to auction it on Ebay, but 
I want to be sure about what exactly I am offering.  In case you are 
wondering, it has 25 teeth on the big gear at the end, which I assume is 
the end closer to the motor, and meshes with the input shaft gear.

So what is it I have here?  An AEC 3475 as labeled, or an AEC 3649 which 
the layshaft bore would seem to imply?

As some of you are aware, I am a Triumph guy, I know very little about 
Healeys of any sort.  Anybody want an NOS laygear of unknown origin and 
unknown fitment?

mjb.

ps: If you are on the shop talk list, you probably have seen my query 
about my Mitutoyo digital calipers, which are not working.  Otherwise I 
would have a more exact measurement of the layshaft bore of the gear.


From mark at bradakis.com  Thu Sep 18 21:15:15 2025
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark Bradakis)
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2025 21:15:15 -0600
Subject: [Healeys] AEC 3475? laygear?
In-Reply-To: <7f101cda-e044-4485-a4ce-4f88601d1d30@bradakis.com>
References: <7f101cda-e044-4485-a4ce-4f88601d1d30@bradakis.com>
Message-ID: <08fcc5f2-0cdc-485a-9b29-b46bb61b184f@bradakis.com>

One possibility I just thought of - it IS an AEC 3475 gear, but has been 
bored out to fit the larger layshaft used with the AEC 3649.  You really 
can't tell from thses pictures whether the bore for the layshaft has 
been tampered with or not.

mjb.

-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: 20250916_214407.jpg
Type: image/jpeg
Size: 343682 bytes
Desc: not available
URL: <http://autox.team.net/pipermail/healeys/attachments/20250918/b29e4b14/attachment.jpg>
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: 20250916_214447.jpg
Type: image/jpeg
Size: 461226 bytes
Desc: not available
URL: <http://autox.team.net/pipermail/healeys/attachments/20250918/b29e4b14/attachment-0001.jpg>
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: 20250916_214347.jpg
Type: image/jpeg
Size: 473847 bytes
Desc: not available
URL: <http://autox.team.net/pipermail/healeys/attachments/20250918/b29e4b14/attachment-0002.jpg>

From thehartnetts at earthlink.net  Thu Sep 18 23:24:17 2025
From: thehartnetts at earthlink.net (Leonard  Hartnett)
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2025 22:24:17 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] radiator thermostat
In-Reply-To: <CAFP1XCBQKL6v2xmcFS5=v5430PahW0C9G8qOK_d5+u4nV80X_A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1458679789.4784944.1758136080533@mail.yahoo.com>
 <1BB88ADA-A551-4291-8BEA-6013F1F9E276@gmail.com>
 <ec725b6b-a1e5-4b3e-b3ae-d953261a74e8@sbcglobal.net>
 <CAFP1XCBQKL6v2xmcFS5=v5430PahW0C9G8qOK_d5+u4nV80X_A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <788306061E7B41D196AB4C5C46314EEA@MargaretPC>

I purchased my Healey while stationed at RAF Bentwaters in England about 80 miles northeast of London and about 10 miles from the English Channel.  The average annual temperature at Bentwaters is 46  to 72 degrees F.  

Perhaps because the temperature was relativaly cool AND the fan was so noisey, I removed it.  I found that as long as I could keep moving, the engine did not overheat.  I was not in a heavely populated area that involved a lot of stop and go traffic or long idles.  Back to the US and the Sacramento Valley area, the fan had to be reinstalled.

Returning from a meet on Vancouver Island, the fan threw a blade in Washington..  It did some major damage to the radiator.  We were able to get the damaged tubes soldered closed and drove home with the damaged radiator and without the fan.  Mostly Interstate, thank goodness.  Made it home successfully.

I tried an electric fan alone but it was not successful.  I left it installed but put the engine fan back on..  The electrec fan is thermostatically controlled and only comes on when the temp rises.  I do not know what that temp is but I think it is about 180 degrees.   Some have suggested that mounting an eletric fan blocks the radiator.  I have not found it to be a problem. 

Double your pleasure, double your fun (Doublemint Gum) 

              The Other Len
1967 Austin-Healey 3000 MkIII BJ8
                HBJ8L39031
               225,936 miles


---
This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.
https://www.avg.com
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://autox.team.net/pipermail/healeys/attachments/20250918/41dba95e/attachment.htm>

From m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca  Fri Sep 19 05:58:10 2025
From: m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca (m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca)
Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2025 07:58:10 -0400
Subject: [Healeys] radiator thermostat
In-Reply-To: <788306061E7B41D196AB4C5C46314EEA@MargaretPC>
References: <1458679789.4784944.1758136080533@mail.yahoo.com>
 <1BB88ADA-A551-4291-8BEA-6013F1F9E276@gmail.com>
 <ec725b6b-a1e5-4b3e-b3ae-d953261a74e8@sbcglobal.net>
 <CAFP1XCBQKL6v2xmcFS5=v5430PahW0C9G8qOK_d5+u4nV80X_A@mail.gmail.com>
 <788306061E7B41D196AB4C5C46314EEA@MargaretPC>
Message-ID: <010901dc295c$abae2900$030a7b00$@sympatico.ca>

Interesting Len.  The previous owner of my BT7, Fergus Ross, who owned it for 14 years, would sometimes vacation on Long Island, driving the Healey with his lovely wife, Ava-Marie, from Oakville in Ontario.  About a 12-14 hour drive.  He told me he used to remove the fan on the long journey as he got a bit more power.  I though it a bit extreme as I never felt I needed more power in the Healey.  I seem to recall (i.e., I am not motivated to look it up to confirm) in his wonderful book about Bristols, L.J.K. Setright noted that Bristol experimented with different fans on a dynamometer and running sans fan produced about 5 extra BHP.

 

Mirek

 

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Leonard Hartnett
Sent: September 19, 2025 1:24 AM
To: Healeys at Autox <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] radiator thermostat

 

I purchased my Healey while stationed at RAF Bentwaters in England about 80 miles northeast of London and about 10 miles from the English Channel.  The average annual temperature at Bentwaters is 46  to 72 degrees F.  

 

Perhaps because the temperature was relativaly cool AND the fan was so noisey, I removed it.  I found that as long as I could keep moving, the engine did not overheat.  I was not in a heavely populated area that involved a lot of stop and go traffic or long idles.  Back to the US and the Sacramento Valley area, the fan had to be reinstalled.

 

Returning from a meet on Vancouver Island, the fan threw a blade in Washington..  It did some major damage to the radiator.  We were able to get the damaged tubes soldered closed and drove home with the damaged radiator and without the fan.  Mostly Interstate, thank goodness.  Made it home successfully.

 

I tried an electric fan alone but it was not successful.  I left it installed but put the engine fan back on..  The electrec fan is thermostatically controlled and only comes on when the temp rises.  I do not know what that temp is but I think it is about 180 degrees.   Some have suggested that mounting an eletric fan blocks the radiator.  I have not found it to be a problem. 

 

Double your pleasure, double your fun (Doublemint Gum) 

 

              The Other Len
1967 Austin-Healey 3000 MkIII BJ8
                HBJ8L39031

               225,936 miles

 

 

  _____  


 <https://www.avg.com/internet-security> 

This email has been checked for viruses by AVG antivirus software. 
www.avg.com <https://www.avg.com/internet-security>  





-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://autox.team.net/pipermail/healeys/attachments/20250919/654191eb/attachment.htm>
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: ~WRD0002.jpg
Type: image/jpeg
Size: 823 bytes
Desc: not available
URL: <http://autox.team.net/pipermail/healeys/attachments/20250919/654191eb/attachment.jpg>

From simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com  Fri Sep 19 06:33:25 2025
From: simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com (simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com)
Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2025 13:33:25 +0100
Subject: [Healeys] radiator thermostat
In-Reply-To: <010901dc295c$abae2900$030a7b00$@sympatico.ca>
References: <1458679789.4784944.1758136080533@mail.yahoo.com>
 <1BB88ADA-A551-4291-8BEA-6013F1F9E276@gmail.com>
 <ec725b6b-a1e5-4b3e-b3ae-d953261a74e8@sbcglobal.net>
 <CAFP1XCBQKL6v2xmcFS5=v5430PahW0C9G8qOK_d5+u4nV80X_A@mail.gmail.com>
 <788306061E7B41D196AB4C5C46314EEA@MargaretPC>
 <010901dc295c$abae2900$030a7b00$@sympatico.ca>
Message-ID: <001d01dc2961$9d092120$d71b6360$@alexarevel.plus.com>

I recall, from ages ago, my Ford Granada?s fan. It had some sort of internal thermostat in its hub which allowed it to freewheel when the engine?s temperature was OK and which engaged when the temperature rose too much. I don?t recall that one could adjust it but it worked fine in that car. Those cars had a nice 3litre V6 and went very well. If you?ve ever watched an old British cop show, The Sweeney, they were apparently much beloved by London?s police ?Flying Squad?. Cockney rhyming slang?.Squad to Todd  as in the demon barber of Fleet Street. Seemed to me that the Flying Squad was not much better than said barber.

So??.has anyone tried this type of fan on a Healey??

Simon

 

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of m.g.sharp--- via Healeys
Sent: 19 September 2025 12:58
To: 'Leonard Hartnett' <thehartnetts at earthlink.net>; 'Healeys at Autox' <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] radiator thermostat

 

Interesting Len.  The previous owner of my BT7, Fergus Ross, who owned it for 14 years, would sometimes vacation on Long Island, driving the Healey with his lovely wife, Ava-Marie, from Oakville in Ontario.  About a 12-14 hour drive.  He told me he used to remove the fan on the long journey as he got a bit more power.  I though it a bit extreme as I never felt I needed more power in the Healey.  I seem to recall (i.e., I am not motivated to look it up to confirm) in his wonderful book about Bristols, L.J.K. Setright noted that Bristol experimented with different fans on a dynamometer and running sans fan produced about 5 extra BHP.

 

Mirek

 

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> > On Behalf Of Leonard Hartnett
Sent: September 19, 2025 1:24 AM
To: Healeys at Autox <healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> >
Subject: Re: [Healeys] radiator thermostat

 

I purchased my Healey while stationed at RAF Bentwaters in England about 80 miles northeast of London and about 10 miles from the English Channel.  The average annual temperature at Bentwaters is 46  to 72 degrees F.  

 

Perhaps because the temperature was relativaly cool AND the fan was so noisey, I removed it.  I found that as long as I could keep moving, the engine did not overheat.  I was not in a heavely populated area that involved a lot of stop and go traffic or long idles.  Back to the US and the Sacramento Valley area, the fan had to be reinstalled.

 

Returning from a meet on Vancouver Island, the fan threw a blade in Washington..  It did some major damage to the radiator.  We were able to get the damaged tubes soldered closed and drove home with the damaged radiator and without the fan.  Mostly Interstate, thank goodness.  Made it home successfully.

 

I tried an electric fan alone but it was not successful.  I left it installed but put the engine fan back on..  The electrec fan is thermostatically controlled and only comes on when the temp rises.  I do not know what that temp is but I think it is about 180 degrees.   Some have suggested that mounting an eletric fan blocks the radiator.  I have not found it to be a problem. 

 

Double your pleasure, double your fun (Doublemint Gum) 

 

              The Other Len
1967 Austin-Healey 3000 MkIII BJ8
                HBJ8L39031

               225,936 miles

 

 

  _____  


 <https://www.avg.com/internet-security> 

This email has been checked for viruses by AVG antivirus software. 
www.avg.com <https://www.avg.com/internet-security>  

 

-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://autox.team.net/pipermail/healeys/attachments/20250919/02b389b7/attachment.htm>
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: image001.jpg
Type: image/jpeg
Size: 823 bytes
Desc: not available
URL: <http://autox.team.net/pipermail/healeys/attachments/20250919/02b389b7/attachment.jpg>

From ryan at jimryan.com  Fri Sep 19 10:26:44 2025
From: ryan at jimryan.com (Jim Ryan)
Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2025 12:26:44 -0400
Subject: [Healeys] Parts available at a friends house in MA (Boston area).
Message-ID: <CAEajuYxoyszedXVxxsk5MWNctGWkCvp5sqxCXAtmd7gK4fGiEg@mail.gmail.com>

I have a long-time Healey friend that just called and has a bunch of parts,
mostly body, some mechanical, available that he would like to see go to a
good home if somebody is interested.  I do not have a list yet but will
soon.  I don't want to post his info publicly but if you can reach  out to
me here and   provide a way for me to contact you  privately I will be glad
to pass it along to you.
-- 

Jim Ryan

????
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://autox.team.net/pipermail/healeys/attachments/20250919/2541aff5/attachment.htm>

From healeydoc at sbcglobal.net  Fri Sep 19 10:27:21 2025
From: healeydoc at sbcglobal.net (David Nock)
Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2025 09:27:21 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] radiator thermostat
In-Reply-To: <092F24E8-280A-4EC3-B888-A3A259AB784F@alexarevel.plus.com>
References: <CAFP1XCBQKL6v2xmcFS5=v5430PahW0C9G8qOK_d5+u4nV80X_A@mail.gmail.com>
 <092F24E8-280A-4EC3-B888-A3A259AB784F@alexarevel.plus.com>
Message-ID: <82d80675-6f48-4f26-b75b-bd2362bb4c7a@sbcglobal.net>

If you are using the original style Bellow thermostat be sure that you 
DO NOT use a higher pressure radiator cap. If you run a bellow 
thermostat and a higher pressure cap the excess pressure will close the 
thermostat once the cooling system gets up to temperature. Causing the 
engine to overheat.



On 9/18/2025 1:15 PM, Simon Lachlan wrote:
> Hi,
> The original sleeved ones are - I think - easier to find in the UK. 
> Certainly, I managed to find a few. I was advised that the Morgan 
> people were a good source. I bought mine on eBay but that was a while 
> ago. Simon
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On 18 Sep 2025, at 18:54, Harold Manifold <manifold at telus.net> wrote:
>>
>> ?
>> Hi All,
>>
>> Thermostats and Healey cooling always generate interesting 
>> discussions, and I'd like to clarify my previous comments on what 
>> controls (or often doesn't control) the coolant temperature.
>>
>> To summarize some of the points made: Coolant flows down the 
>> radiator, out the bottom hose, and into the water pump. It's then 
>> pumped into the engine block's cooling jacket. The goal is to direct 
>> the coolest fluid to the hottest part of the engine for optimal heat 
>> transfer (i.e., the largest delta T). The coolant, having absorbed 
>> heat, then moves up to the cylinder head, through the thermostat, and 
>> back to the radiator. This process is known as thermosiphoning, where 
>> heated coolant rises through the engine and falls as it cools in the 
>> radiator.
>>
>> The heat generated by the engine is a function of the combustion 
>> process (timing, carburation, etc.) and horsepower efficiency loss. 
>> More horsepower output means more heat transferred to the coolant. 
>> The radiator removes this heat, but its effectiveness is proportional 
>> to the difference between the air and coolant temperatures.
>>
>> Assuming the radiator has sufficient capacity to remove heat, if the 
>> coolant temperature the thermostat "sees" is less than its opening 
>> temperature plus 20 degrees, the thermostat will slightly close to 
>> restrict flow to the radiator. In this scenario, the thermostat is 
>> actively controlling the coolant temperature. However, if the coolant 
>> temperature exceeds 20 degrees above the thermostat's opening 
>> temperature, then the coolant temperature is primarily a function of 
>> the incoming air temperature, and the thermostat is no longer a 
>> factor. In such cases, the coolant temperature is effectively 
>> uncontrolled by the thermostat.
>>
>> To add to the discussion, the engine fan has minimal effect at speeds 
>> greater than 15 miles per hour.
>>
>> Harold
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 18, 2025 at 8:46?AM David Nock via Healeys 
>> <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>
>>     The thermostat does not control the high end temperature of the
>>     engine. Its job is to get the engine up to an operating
>>     temperature as soon as possible. Then in maintains the low end
>>     temperature of the engine. Once the thermostat is open the engine
>>     temperature is controlled by the radiator, radiator fan and air flow.
>>
>>     On the 6 cylinder engine there is a sleeve attached to the
>>     thermostat, that blocks off a bypass in the cylinder head. The
>>     bypass is there to allow the coolant to flow when the thermostat
>>     is closed. Once the thermostat is open the sleeve is there to
>>     block the bypass allowing ALL the coolant to flow thru the radiator.
>>
>>     David Nock
>>
>>     British Car Specialists
>>
>>
>>     On 9/17/2025 12:54 PM, Richard Mayor wrote:
>>>     165 is too cold for good running.? Our engines run better in the
>>>     180 to 190 range.
>>>
>>>     Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>>>     On Sep 17, 2025, at 12:13?PM, Robert Markovich via Healeys
>>>>     <healeys at autox.team.net> <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>     ? 165 is the one I use
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS
>>>>     <https://aolapp.onelink.me/eG2g?pid=NativePlacement&c=US_Acquisition_YMktg_320_EmailSignature_AttributionDL&af_sub1=Acquisition&af_sub2=US_YMktg&af_sub3=&af_sub4=100002473&af_sub5=SentFromNewAOLApp__Interstitial_&af_ios_store_cpp=ce85ce34-ad0f-4811-a92b-a172743b064e&af_android_url=https%3A%2F%2Fplay.google.com%2Fstore%2Fapps%2Fdetails%3Fid%3Dcom.aol.mobile.aolapp%26listing%3Demail_signature_attribution>
>>>>
>>>>     On Wednesday, September 17, 2025, 2:50 PM, Richard Antal via
>>>>     Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net>
>>>>     <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>         Gents,
>>>>         ? ? ?What is the desired coolant temperature for optimal
>>>>         engine performance? I've searched the tech articles and can
>>>>         find nothing that specifically answers that question. This
>>>>         summer my BJ8 seemed to run fine with a 160 thermostat
>>>>         which, according to the gauge which I've checked and found
>>>>         to be accurate, kept the coolant at around 165. Thanks to
>>>>         all who respond.
>>>>         rich antal
>>>>         _______________________________________________
>>>>         Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html
>>>>         Suggested annual donation? $12.75
>>>>
>>>>         Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys
>>>>         http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys
>>>>
>>>>         Healeys at autox.team.net
>>>>         http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys
>>>>
>>>>         Unsubscribe/Manage:
>>>>         http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rmarkovich at aol.com
>>>>
>>>>     _______________________________________________
>>>>     Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html
>>>>     Suggested annual donation ?$12.75
>>>>
>>>>     Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys
>>>>     http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys
>>>>
>>>>     Healeys at autox.team.net
>>>>     http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys
>>>>
>>>>     Unsubscribe/Manage:
>>>>     http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/boyracer466 at gmail.com
>>>>
>>>
>>>     _______________________________________________
>>>     Support Team.Nethttp://www.team.net/donate.html
>>>     Suggested annual donation  $12.75
>>>
>>>     Archive:http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys
>>>
>>>     Healeys at autox.team.net
>>>     http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys
>>>
>>>     Unsubscribe/Manage:http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeydoc at sbcglobal.net
>>>
>>     -- 
>>     David Nock
>>     British Car Specialists
>>     Stockton Ca
>>     209 948 8767
>>     www.britishcarspecialists.com <http://www.britishcarspecialists.com>
>>
>>     _______________________________________________
>>     Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html
>>     Suggested annual donation? $12.75
>>
>>     Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys
>>     http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys
>>
>>     Healeys at autox.team.net
>>     http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys
>>
>>     Unsubscribe/Manage:
>>     http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/manifold at telus.net
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html
>> Suggested annual donation ?$12.75
>>
>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys 
>> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys
>>
>> Healeys at autox.team.net
>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys
>>
>> Unsubscribe/Manage: 
>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com
>>
-- 
David Nock
British Car Specialists
Stockton Ca
209 948 8767
www.britishcarspecialists.com
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://autox.team.net/pipermail/healeys/attachments/20250919/64831715/attachment.htm>

From manifold at telus.net  Fri Sep 19 11:15:55 2025
From: manifold at telus.net (Harold Manifold)
Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2025 10:15:55 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] AEC 3475? laygear?
In-Reply-To: <08fcc5f2-0cdc-485a-9b29-b46bb61b184f@bradakis.com>
References: <7f101cda-e044-4485-a4ce-4f88601d1d30@bradakis.com>
 <08fcc5f2-0cdc-485a-9b29-b46bb61b184f@bradakis.com>
Message-ID: <CAFP1XCBB5d438LV_egXZaDv0FD8kUA9WMcRk+FWH394KRdYe3g@mail.gmail.com>

Mark,

Please see the attached list of gears for the BMC "C" type gearbox.
Counting the teeth may help you identify which layshaft you have.

Harold

On Thu, Sep 18, 2025 at 8:31?PM Mark Bradakis via Healeys <
healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:

> One possibility I just thought of - it IS an AEC 3475 gear, but has been
> bored out to fit the larger layshaft used with the AEC 3649.  You really
> can't tell from thses pictures whether the bore for the layshaft has
> been tampered with or not.
>
> mjb.
>
> _______________________________________________
> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html
> Suggested annual donation  $12.75
>
> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys
> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys
>
> Healeys at autox.team.net
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys
>
> Unsubscribe/Manage:
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/manifold at telus.net
>
>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://autox.team.net/pipermail/healeys/attachments/20250919/10f3fb9e/attachment.htm>
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: AH Transmission Gears.pdf
Type: application/pdf
Size: 1666774 bytes
Desc: not available
URL: <http://autox.team.net/pipermail/healeys/attachments/20250919/10f3fb9e/attachment.pdf>

From simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com  Fri Sep 19 13:26:25 2025
From: simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com (simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com)
Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2025 20:26:25 +0100
Subject: [Healeys] radiator thermostat
In-Reply-To: <82d80675-6f48-4f26-b75b-bd2362bb4c7a@sbcglobal.net>
References: <CAFP1XCBQKL6v2xmcFS5=v5430PahW0C9G8qOK_d5+u4nV80X_A@mail.gmail.com>
 <092F24E8-280A-4EC3-B888-A3A259AB784F@alexarevel.plus.com>
 <82d80675-6f48-4f26-b75b-bd2362bb4c7a@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <001d01dc299b$4bf688b0$e3e39a10$@alexarevel.plus.com>

Alright so far. 25 years or so????..

 

From: David Nock <healeydoc at sbcglobal.net> 
Sent: 19 September 2025 17:27
To: Simon Lachlan <simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com>; Harold Manifold <manifold at telus.net>
Cc: Richard Antal <rantal243 at yahoo.com>; Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] radiator thermostat

 

If you are using the original style Bellow thermostat be sure that you DO NOT use a higher pressure radiator cap. If you run a bellow thermostat and a higher pressure cap the excess pressure will close the thermostat once the cooling system gets up to temperature. Causing the engine to overheat.

 

 

On 9/18/2025 1:15 PM, Simon Lachlan wrote:

Hi,  

The original sleeved ones are - I think - easier to find in the UK. Certainly, I managed to find a few. I was advised that the Morgan people were a good source. I bought mine on eBay but that was a while ago. Simon

Sent from my iPhone





On 18 Sep 2025, at 18:54, Harold Manifold  <mailto:manifold at telus.net> <manifold at telus.net> wrote:

? 

Hi All,

 

Thermostats and Healey cooling always generate interesting discussions, and I'd like to clarify my previous comments on what controls (or often doesn't control) the coolant temperature.

 

To summarize some of the points made: Coolant flows down the radiator, out the bottom hose, and into the water pump. It's then pumped into the engine block's cooling jacket. The goal is to direct the coolest fluid to the hottest part of the engine for optimal heat transfer (i.e., the largest delta T). The coolant, having absorbed heat, then moves up to the cylinder head, through the thermostat, and back to the radiator. This process is known as thermosiphoning, where heated coolant rises through the engine and falls as it cools in the radiator.

 

The heat generated by the engine is a function of the combustion process (timing, carburation, etc.) and horsepower efficiency loss. More horsepower output means more heat transferred to the coolant. The radiator removes this heat, but its effectiveness is proportional to the difference between the air and coolant temperatures.

 

Assuming the radiator has sufficient capacity to remove heat, if the coolant temperature the thermostat "sees" is less than its opening temperature plus 20 degrees, the thermostat will slightly close to restrict flow to the radiator. In this scenario, the thermostat is actively controlling the coolant temperature. However, if the coolant temperature exceeds 20 degrees above the thermostat's opening temperature, then the coolant temperature is primarily a function of the incoming air temperature, and the thermostat is no longer a factor. In such cases, the coolant temperature is effectively uncontrolled by the thermostat.

 

To add to the discussion, the engine fan has minimal effect at speeds greater than 15 miles per hour.

 

Harold

 

On Thu, Sep 18, 2025 at 8:46?AM David Nock via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> > wrote:

The thermostat does not control the high end temperature of the engine. Its job is to get the engine up to an operating temperature as soon as possible. Then in maintains the low end temperature of the engine. Once the thermostat is open the engine temperature is controlled by the radiator, radiator fan and air flow.

On the 6 cylinder engine there is a sleeve attached to the thermostat, that blocks off a bypass in the cylinder head. The bypass is there to allow the coolant to flow when the thermostat is closed. Once the thermostat is open the sleeve is there to block the bypass allowing ALL the coolant to flow thru the radiator. 

David Nock

British Car Specialists

 

On 9/17/2025 12:54 PM, Richard Mayor wrote:

165 is too cold for good running.  Our engines run better in the 180 to 190 range.   

 

 

Sent from my iPad





On Sep 17, 2025, at 12:13?PM, Robert Markovich via Healeys  <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:

? 165 is the one I use



 <https://aolapp.onelink.me/eG2g?pid=NativePlacement&c=US_Acquisition_YMktg_320_EmailSignature_AttributionDL&af_sub1=Acquisition&af_sub2=US_YMktg&af_sub3=&af_sub4=100002473&af_sub5=SentFromNewAOLApp__Interstitial_&af_ios_store_cpp=ce85ce34-ad0f-4811-a92b-a172743b064e&af_android_url=https%3A%2F%2Fplay.google.com%2Fstore%2Fapps%2Fdetails%3Fid%3Dcomaol.mobile.aolapp%26listing%3Demail_signature_attribution> Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS

 

On Wednesday, September 17, 2025, 2:50 PM, Richard Antal via Healeys  <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:

Gents,

     What is the desired coolant temperature for optimal engine performance? I've searched the tech articles and can find nothing that specifically answers that question. This summer my BJ8 seemed to run fine with a 160 thermostat which, according to the gauge which I've checked and found to be accurate, kept the coolant at around 165. Thanks to all who respond.

rich antal

_______________________________________________
Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html
Suggested annual donation  $12.75

Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys

Healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:Healeys at autox.team.net> 
http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys

Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rmarkovich at aol.com

_______________________________________________
Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html
Suggested annual donation  $12.75

Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys

Healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:Healeys at autox.team.net> 
http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys

Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/boyracer466 at gmail.com





_______________________________________________
Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html
Suggested annual donation  $12.75
 
Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys
 
Healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:Healeys at autox.team.net> 
http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys
 
Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeydoc at sbcglobal.net
 

-- 
David Nock
British Car Specialists
Stockton Ca  
209 948 8767
www.britishcarspecialists.com <http://www.britishcarspecialists.com> 

_______________________________________________
Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html
Suggested annual donation  $12.75

Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys

Healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:Healeys at autox.team.net> 
http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys

Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/manifold at telus.net

_______________________________________________
Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html
Suggested annual donation  $12.75

Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys

Healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:Healeys at autox.team.net> 
http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys

Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com

-- 
David Nock
British Car Specialists
Stockton Ca  
209 948 8767
www.britishcarspecialists.com <http://www.britishcarspecialists.com> 
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://autox.team.net/pipermail/healeys/attachments/20250919/3cff3b68/attachment.htm>

From boyracer466 at gmail.com  Fri Sep 19 14:44:34 2025
From: boyracer466 at gmail.com (richard mayor)
Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2025 13:44:34 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] AEC 3475? laygear?
In-Reply-To: <CAFP1XCBB5d438LV_egXZaDv0FD8kUA9WMcRk+FWH394KRdYe3g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <7f101cda-e044-4485-a4ce-4f88601d1d30@bradakis.com>
 <08fcc5f2-0cdc-485a-9b29-b46bb61b184f@bradakis.com>
 <CAFP1XCBB5d438LV_egXZaDv0FD8kUA9WMcRk+FWH394KRdYe3g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20C7697E-3083-473B-A8BF-C9148FAEEA12@gmail.com>

Harold,  Thank you for the chart. However, on page 3 the left hand column has been cut off.  Can you repost it?  

Thank you,  Richard


Richard Mayor
boyracer466 at gmail.com



> On Sep 19, 2025, at 10:15?AM, Harold Manifold <manifold at telus.net> wrote:
> 
> Mark,
> 
> Please see the attached list of gears for the BMC "C" type gearbox. Counting the teeth may help you identify which layshaft you have.
> 
> Harold
> 
> On Thu, Sep 18, 2025 at 8:31?PM Mark Bradakis via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net>> wrote:
>> One possibility I just thought of - it IS an AEC 3475 gear, but has been 
>> bored out to fit the larger layshaft used with the AEC 3649.  You really 
>> can't tell from thses pictures whether the bore for the layshaft has 
>> been tampered with or not.
>> 
>> mjb.
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html
>> Suggested annual donation  $12.75
>> 
>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys
>> 
>> Healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:Healeys at autox.team.net>
>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys
>> 
>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/manifold at telus.net
>> 
> <AH Transmission Gears.pdf>_______________________________________________
> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html
> Suggested annual donation  $12.75
> 
> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys
> 
> Healeys at autox.team.net
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys
> 
> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/boyracer466 at gmail.com
> 

-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://autox.team.net/pipermail/healeys/attachments/20250919/a613cf04/attachment.htm>

From manifold at telus.net  Fri Sep 19 15:25:51 2025
From: manifold at telus.net (Harold Manifold)
Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2025 14:25:51 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] AEC 3475? laygear?
In-Reply-To: <20C7697E-3083-473B-A8BF-C9148FAEEA12@gmail.com>
References: <7f101cda-e044-4485-a4ce-4f88601d1d30@bradakis.com>
 <08fcc5f2-0cdc-485a-9b29-b46bb61b184f@bradakis.com>
 <CAFP1XCBB5d438LV_egXZaDv0FD8kUA9WMcRk+FWH394KRdYe3g@mail.gmail.com>
 <20C7697E-3083-473B-A8BF-C9148FAEEA12@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAFP1XCCQY=sED3VufiLefxgni2oj6-eR0MphM=Tma8wQjBZr8w@mail.gmail.com>

Richard,

Page 2 & 3 are the RH and LH of one page. Not the easiest to read. Page 2
is mostly complete with the remarks split between 2 & 3. It was like this
when I got it.

Harold

On Fri, Sep 19, 2025 at 1:44?PM richard mayor <boyracer466 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Harold,  Thank you for the chart. However, on page 3 the left hand column
> has been cut off.  Can you repost it?
>
> Thank you,  Richard
>
>
> Richard Mayor
> boyracer466 at gmail.com
>
>
>
> On Sep 19, 2025, at 10:15?AM, Harold Manifold <manifold at telus.net> wrote:
>
> Mark,
>
> Please see the attached list of gears for the BMC "C" type gearbox.
> Counting the teeth may help you identify which layshaft you have.
>
> Harold
>
> On Thu, Sep 18, 2025 at 8:31?PM Mark Bradakis via Healeys <
> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>> One possibility I just thought of - it IS an AEC 3475 gear, but has been
>> bored out to fit the larger layshaft used with the AEC 3649.  You really
>> can't tell from thses pictures whether the bore for the layshaft has
>> been tampered with or not.
>>
>> mjb.
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html
>> Suggested annual donation  $12.75
>>
>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys
>> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys
>>
>> Healeys at autox.team.net
>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys
>>
>> Unsubscribe/Manage:
>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/manifold at telus.net
>>
>> <AH Transmission Gears.pdf>
> _______________________________________________
> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html
> Suggested annual donation  $12.75
>
> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys
> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys
>
> Healeys at autox.team.net
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys
>
> Unsubscribe/Manage:
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/boyracer466 at gmail.com
>
>
>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://autox.team.net/pipermail/healeys/attachments/20250919/4b094bae/attachment.htm>

From rantal243 at yahoo.com  Fri Sep 19 15:36:59 2025
From: rantal243 at yahoo.com (Richard Antal)
Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2025 21:36:59 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Healeys] Backfire
References: <216678656.5668955.1758317819690.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <216678656.5668955.1758317819690@mail.yahoo.com>

Gents,? ? ?A few days ago I replaced the sparkplugs, ten years old or more, with six NGK BP5ES plugs gapped to 35, and a Pertronix 3 ohm coil. I've not yet changed the wires, distributor cap or rotor. Today I drove the BJ8 almost 200 miles without incident at speeds up to 60 mph. While going 80 mph on the interstate, over a span of two or three seconds, the car bucked and backfired three times. I immediately dropped the speed to 50 and then gradually back up to 80 with no further backfiring. What could have caused this discomfiting turn of events? Thanks for your thoughts.rich antal
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://autox.team.net/pipermail/healeys/attachments/20250919/65a8d3c7/attachment.htm>

From bspidell at comcast.net  Fri Sep 19 17:08:31 2025
From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell)
Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2025 16:08:31 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] Backfire
In-Reply-To: <216678656.5668955.1758317819690@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <216678656.5668955.1758317819690.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <216678656.5668955.1758317819690@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <3dbb1afd-939d-4bfd-a835-fb800edf26ff@comcast.net>

Symptoms suggest fuel delivery (faulty pump, clogged filter, etc.).

What cap and wires are you running? If stranded wire secondaries they 
could be affecting the Pertronix from RFI (the guys on Roadkill Garage 
had that issue with an old Chevy dragster). The larger the plug gap the 
more voltage produced at the plug electrodes (IMO 0.035 is pushing it 
and not really necessary).

Bob

On 9/19/2025 2:36 PM, Richard Antal via Healeys wrote:
> Gents,
> ? ? ?A few days ago I replaced the sparkplugs, ten years old or more, 
> with six NGK BP5ES plugs gapped to 35, and a Pertronix 3 ohm coil. 
> I've not yet changed the wires, distributor cap or rotor. Today I 
> drove the BJ8 almost 200 miles without incident at speeds up to 60 
> mph. While going 80 mph on the interstate, over a span of two or three 
> seconds, the car bucked and backfired three times. I immediately 
> dropped the speed to 50 and then gradually back up to 80 with no 
> further backfiring. What could have caused this discomfiting turn of 
> events? Thanks for your thoughts.
> rich antal
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://autox.team.net/pipermail/healeys/attachments/20250919/87c6e231/attachment.htm>

From bspidell at comcast.net  Fri Sep 19 17:08:55 2025
From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell)
Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2025 16:08:55 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] Backfire
In-Reply-To: <216678656.5668955.1758317819690@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <216678656.5668955.1758317819690.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <216678656.5668955.1758317819690@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1c8081c8-4524-46f3-850c-1cd5b5927c0a@comcast.net>

Symptoms suggest fuel delivery (faulty pump, clogged filter, etc.).

What cap and wires are you running? If stranded wire secondaries they 
could be affecting the Pertronix from RFI (the guys on Roadkill Garage 
had that issue with an old Chevy dragster). The larger the plug gap the 
more voltage produced at the plug electrodes (IMO 0.035 is pushing it 
and not really necessary).

Bob

On 9/19/2025 2:36 PM, Richard Antal via Healeys wrote:
> Gents,
> ? ? ?A few days ago I replaced the sparkplugs, ten years old or more, 
> with six NGK BP5ES plugs gapped to 35, and a Pertronix 3 ohm coil. 
> I've not yet changed the wires, distributor cap or rotor. Today I 
> drove the BJ8 almost 200 miles without incident at speeds up to 60 
> mph. While going 80 mph on the interstate, over a span of two or three 
> seconds, the car bucked and backfired three times. I immediately 
> dropped the speed to 50 and then gradually back up to 80 with no 
> further backfiring. What could have caused this discomfiting turn of 
> events? Thanks for your thoughts.
> rich antal
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://autox.team.net/pipermail/healeys/attachments/20250919/1bcc7fb9/attachment.htm>

From rmarkovich at aol.com  Fri Sep 19 20:08:07 2025
From: rmarkovich at aol.com (Robert Markovich)
Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2025 02:08:07 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Healeys] Backfire
In-Reply-To: <216678656.5668955.1758317819690@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <216678656.5668955.1758317819690.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <216678656.5668955.1758317819690@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1672603533.5709436.1758334087438@mail.yahoo.com>

A voltage drop can do that. I had that happen on my BN7 and after much searching found that the wires to the ignition switch were loose. Tightening solved the problem. I also prefer the?Lucas sport coil to the Pertronix as their coils have been known to fail (mine did on an earlier Healey). And yes, the .035 gap is too wide; go with the factory setting.?


Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS


On Friday, September 19, 2025, 6:42 PM, Richard Antal via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:

Gents,? ? ?A few days ago I replaced the sparkplugs, ten years old or more, with six NGK BP5ES plugs gapped to 35, and a Pertronix 3 ohm coil. I've not yet changed the wires, distributor cap or rotor. Today I drove the BJ8 almost 200 miles without incident at speeds up to 60 mph. While going 80 mph on the interstate, over a span of two or three seconds, the car bucked and backfired three times. I immediately dropped the speed to 50 and then gradually back up to 80 with no further backfiring. What could have caused this discomfiting turn of events? Thanks for your thoughts.rich antal_______________________________________________
Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html
Suggested annual donation? $12.75

Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys

Healeys at autox.team.net
http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys

Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rmarkovich at aol.com




-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://autox.team.net/pipermail/healeys/attachments/20250920/1b15eed9/attachment.htm>

From gradea1 at charter.net  Fri Sep 19 21:38:42 2025
From: gradea1 at charter.net (Hank Leach)
Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2025 03:38:42 +0000
Subject: [Healeys] Backfire
Message-ID: <80159895-78c2-a679-8838-1cd60ebb4aa1@charter.net>

An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://autox.team.net/pipermail/healeys/attachments/20250920/6c89fa1a/attachment.htm>

From boyracer466 at gmail.com  Sat Sep 20 03:19:33 2025
From: boyracer466 at gmail.com (richard mayor)
Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2025 02:19:33 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] AEC 3475? laygear?
In-Reply-To: <CAFP1XCCQY=sED3VufiLefxgni2oj6-eR0MphM=Tma8wQjBZr8w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <7f101cda-e044-4485-a4ce-4f88601d1d30@bradakis.com>
 <08fcc5f2-0cdc-485a-9b29-b46bb61b184f@bradakis.com>
 <CAFP1XCBB5d438LV_egXZaDv0FD8kUA9WMcRk+FWH394KRdYe3g@mail.gmail.com>
 <20C7697E-3083-473B-A8BF-C9148FAEEA12@gmail.com>
 <CAFP1XCCQY=sED3VufiLefxgni2oj6-eR0MphM=Tma8wQjBZr8w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <85F2387E-5F8E-4A18-B1C2-339A6FBDAFE0@gmail.com>

Sorry.  If I had looked more closely I would have seen that. Thanks again for posting that information.

Richard Mayor
boyracer466 at gmail.com



> On Sep 19, 2025, at 2:25?PM, Harold Manifold <manifold at telus.net> wrote:
> 
> Richard,
> 
> Page 2 & 3 are the RH and LH of one page. Not the easiest to read. Page 2 is mostly complete with the remarks split between 2 & 3. It was like this when I got it.
> 
> Harold
> 
> On Fri, Sep 19, 2025 at 1:44?PM richard mayor <boyracer466 at gmail.com <mailto:boyracer466 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> Harold,  Thank you for the chart. However, on page 3 the left hand column has been cut off.  Can you repost it?  
>> 
>> Thank you,  Richard
>> 
>> 
>> Richard Mayor
>> boyracer466 at gmail.com <mailto:boyracer466 at gmail.com>
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sep 19, 2025, at 10:15?AM, Harold Manifold <manifold at telus.net <mailto:manifold at telus.net>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Mark,
>>> 
>>> Please see the attached list of gears for the BMC "C" type gearbox. Counting the teeth may help you identify which layshaft you have.
>>> 
>>> Harold
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Sep 18, 2025 at 8:31?PM Mark Bradakis via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net>> wrote:
>>>> One possibility I just thought of - it IS an AEC 3475 gear, but has been 
>>>> bored out to fit the larger layshaft used with the AEC 3649.  You really 
>>>> can't tell from thses pictures whether the bore for the layshaft has 
>>>> been tampered with or not.
>>>> 
>>>> mjb.
>>>> 
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html
>>>> Suggested annual donation  $12.75
>>>> 
>>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys
>>>> 
>>>> Healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:Healeys at autox.team.net>
>>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys
>>>> 
>>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/manifold at telus.net
>>>> 
>>> <AH Transmission Gears.pdf>_______________________________________________
>>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html
>>> Suggested annual donation  $12.75
>>> 
>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys
>>> 
>>> Healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:Healeys at autox.team.net>
>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys
>>> 
>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/boyracer466 at gmail.com
>>> 
>> 

-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://autox.team.net/pipermail/healeys/attachments/20250920/c3801ff1/attachment.htm>